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1 hour ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Did you try the obvious (or was it obnoxious) save-quit-restart procedure? I don't remember having had this problem with SLtR, but with some other mods, so maybe that helps.

I don't know if a restart did it, but the MCM is there now. Either I was blind as a bat and didn't see it earlier when scrolling through MCM, or it sneakily added itself in a loading screen. Either way, everything seems to be working now!

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3 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

 

5 hours ago, shiagwen said:

is your mod compativle with public whore ? if not will you make it ?  in this case radiant prostitution will be replaced, optional, and the pimp is getting the money from the city.

I'm not sure if that fits in with SLtR - just from reading the description, I don't use prostitution mods.

I think Mistress would have a sharp word with the Jarl, and even though Lola submits to her Mistress, that doesn't mean the two of them wouldn't be able to kill off the whole city guard. So the Jarl even suggesting that he wants to own the Dragonborn would be walking on very thin ice.

It might work if it was made clear that your Mistress was receiving something for "lending her property" to the Jarl whether gold, prestige, a title, some vacation time for herself, or even amusement. I've been running SLR and PW together is my game to get a feel for how they work together (disable the chance for your follower to be used because that's your job not hers) and I've been using the Thoughts.json to allude to the fact that your Mistress is petitioning a mysterious "well deserved" historical title for your PC behind the scenes and it has been working well together, if requiring a bit of metagaming not to trigger PW too early to trigger certain Thoughts too early.

 

I think that PW is an impressive mod especially for one so early in development but there are a few outstanding bugs that thankfully the mod author is actively working on. It might be worth taking a wait and see approach on how it develops before asking Hex to commit time for mod integration. It definitely requires some imaginative ways to get them to mesh well together since as you pointed out they don't gel too well together right out of the box as it were.

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8 hours ago, rjn said:

I just wanted to  mention how to avoid it (use the nickname option) since it's impossible to fix the Scent of Sex Actors list in-game once it happens.

You might try disabling all rules, then turning them back on a few minutes layer.  I think it's coincidence with naming the PC Lola.  It's a simple name change, supported by vanilla Skyrim, and Scent of Sex is almost certainly tracking actors by ID rather than name.  So, Lola in the actor list is very strange.

 

6 hours ago, shiagwen said:

is your mod compativle with public whore ?

You can use both in your game, but there's no overlap.  Either you're working for your owner, or the jarl.  Not both.  If you got yourself in trouble and became a public whore, your owner wouldn't bother ordering you to do your job and enrich the jarl.  You'd do that on your free time.  If you leave SLTR prostitution on, then your owner might order you to into prostitution, where those jobs would pay the owner (not the jarl) and naturally those jobs would not count toward your public service.

 

6 hours ago, Snook001 said:

Be careful with RP quest home visit, they can send you outside of town, then you need to reload a old save as you are not allowed to leave town.

It's easier to just tell your pimp that you don't want to do that job.  That ends the quest.

 

5 hours ago, Pornucopia said:

Is it possible to disable or replace the spanking?

No, though the mod will recognize and use any animations with the "Spank" or "Spanking" tags.

 

4 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

So the Jarl even suggesting that he wants to own the Dragonborn would be walking on very thin ice.

As you said, some Public Whore starts would be unrealistic, considering that you're already someone's property.  I suppose you could rationalize it as a form of property tax on slave owners, but that's a long reach.  Or possibly the jarl doesn't recognize you as a real slave; in the jarl's eyes, you're just playing a kinky dominance/submission game.  Possibly.  But using the two mods together really only makes sense when you're a public whore due to obligation (bought at the slave auction) or punishment (a future PW option to pay off a bounty as a public whore).

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1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Does the pc alawys kneel down when she ask if she can be of service or does this change by time ? can this make optional ?

Always.  Why would submissive kneeling be optional?

 

1 hour ago, blahity said:

It might work if it was made clear that your Mistress was receiving something for "lending her property" to the Jarl whether gold, prestige, a title, some vacation time for herself, or even amusement.

Yes, that's another way to rationalize it.  However you do it, the PC would be working for the jarl, or the owner, not both.

 

1 hour ago, mazey.chava@lam0k.com said:

I have the mod mcm and have read the book but can't seem to get the dialogue prompt with my follower.

If the Strong Hand quest is running, that's all you need.  The MCM option to ask the follower must have been left enabled (it is by default) if you want to initiate that conversion yourself.  The follower must be already recruited, and can't have a specialized custom AI.  Serana and Sophia won't work, but it's been reported that Recorder does.

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1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

on the one hand it is ok for your that the master takes all the profit from the innkeeper, on the other hand you dont see that the master could get his payment from the city - which would be in fact the same as from the innkeeper. 

Your owner tells you, "I'll negotiate my cut of your earnings with the innkeeper while you're doing what you do best."  You're specifically told that the innkeeper gets a cut.  That's the immersive roleplay part.  As a practical matter, it was inconvenient to set up a split between innkeeper and owner, so behind the scenes the owner actually ends up with the innkeeper's full share.  You're told the part that matters (there's a split between innkeeper and owner); you'd have to go to the trouble to check the owner's gold before and after (assuming that a slave is permitted to do that) to see that the mod actually errs in your owner's favor.  Until now, no one has had a problem with that.

 

Returning to the heart of the matter, you're either working for the jarl (cuts are determined by PW), or you're working for your owner (cuts are set by Radiant Prostitution or SLTR's basic setting).  Not both.  You're not going to get rewarded twice for the same sex act.  If you think you're getting too much prostitution, you can lower your quota in either or both mods, or turn off prostitution entirely in this mod while working as a public whore.

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

because it is looking stupid,  this should be kept for special events, but not for the standard question, if she can be of service.

Kneeling is part of a slave's basic training (or "conditioning" if you prefer).  Always address the owner as Master or Mistress, and always kneel when offering service.  It starts as soon as Lola puts on that collar.  It reminds Lola of her place.  She does it because it's required, not necessarily because she wants to.  If she thinks it looks stupid, a slave's opinion doesn't matter.

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Funny how people can think so differently. One of the only things left about SD+ i still love is that you must kneel to speak to the Master. 

Though the punishments for failing to do so get tedious, it is an effective way for the player to be reminded of their PC's situation.

 

Alas, the kneeling poses available for us to use in game are limited, but still, i think they look anything but stupid. Appropriate is the word that

comes to mind first.

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Probably a mute point since kneeling is automatic in this mod so you have no option not to, but if you were looking for tweaks to your mod the approach in Maria Eden is quite good (at least in my opinion) as kneeling is dependant on how good or bad the relationship is with your dom. It can vary from not having to kneel, down to being ignored unless you do and even as far as ignoring and not wanting to talk to you even if you are kneeling.

 

 

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Thank you to the mod authors for this excellent revival of my one of my old go-to mods! I love the variation, and that I keep finding new aspects to the mod I haven't seen yet. This mod gives the best sense of "Adventuring as a slave" I've gotten out of any mod (Other than maybe Slaverun, but that has too much sex for sex-sake in it).

 

I don't fully know how in depth the mod goes as I like being surprised whilst I play, so forgive me if this just comes later, but it would be awesome to see more devious devices be equipped on Lola for periods of time for the owners amusement. I know there are some aspects of them in there but just a thought to maybe kick in a few more DD events.

 

I figured it would be nice to read a post not saying something is broken for a change and just hear back from a satisfied user.

 

Keep up the good work ? I LOVE THIS MOD

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20 hours ago, BigJR said:

it would be awesome to see more devious devices be equipped on Lola for periods of time for the owners amusement.

That's certainly a possibility, either as entertainment or special punishment.  As you've noticed, this mod uses restraints lightly, so you can still be an adventuring slave.  There's room for more use of devices, but my "to do" list is long.

 

21 hours ago, BigJR said:

I LOVE THIS MOD

Thanks!

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Version 2.0.32

 

Changed:  Changed the quest to be spanked by a guard so that it appears in the main quest list, not hidden in the Miscellaneous quests.

 

Changed:  When the owner spanks or whips the PC, the PC gains or loses arousal depending on whether it was reward or punishment.
- If Spank That Ass is installed, this mod will NOT update arousal for spanking, leaving that to STA.
- The owner was already gaining arousal from spanking or whipping the PC, doubled if you requested it (existing behavior).

 

Fixed:  For Spank That Ass, the mod event to update spanking status wasn't working.  It's been replaced by a new mod event.
- The event is so new that you'll need the beta version 4.7 of STA. 
- If you don't install the beta version, your game will be fine, but you won't see STA updates (same as before).
- This is beta.  It's possible that the STA update from SLTR won't work right (same as before).  Feel free to post your results here.

- If you don't use Spank That Ass, you won't see any change.

 

Fixed:  The language file for Russian was missing.  (All the files are in English, but files are needed for each language.)

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1 hour ago, chooo said:

still have not had the pony express trigger, just curious what the trigger for that is, or maybe I'm just (un)lucky?

It can only start in an inn in the 5 walled cities between 8 AM and 4 PM.  However, at score 50+ you simply can volunteer for the event if you're in those locations.

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8 hours ago, chooo said:

Been playing this for a few days, great mod by the way, and still have not had the pony express trigger, just curious what the trigger for that is, or maybe I'm just (un)lucky? Thanks!

HexBolt8 already answered this. Additional to what he said, you mustn't wear a chastity belt, as there is sex involved.

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More or less just setting up a new game with this installed and found 2 options for custom .json files that would enable additional texts if i got that right... scrolled a bit through the thread but couldn't find any. Are there any user submitted files for that? It sure sounds intresting but for me it loses in flavor when i write them all myself and lose the surprise.^^
Plus i'm lazy xD

Also... not sure how to put this. I saw the help sections but maybe i'm also dumb... i didn't really get the whole contract system. In an earlier test setup i could submit to followers but wasn't offered a contract or anything... is that a setting or do i have to have some submission points first or how does it work?

Assuming i would stay defiant, would i miss a lot of content?

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20 minutes ago, YoSoyLechuga said:

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've had a problem with the dialogue taking very long to move to the next line, and dialogue disappearing really fast, Skipping dialogue doesn't help either. Is there a way to adjust/fix this?

You should have Fuz Ro D'oh installed (it's required), and it should be the most recent version.

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34 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

More or less just setting up a new game with this installed and found 2 options for custom .json files that would enable additional texts if i got that right... scrolled a bit through the thread but couldn't find any.

Examples are included with the mod.  If you want to use them, rename them according to the instructions in the text file in that folder.  The examples are minimal in content, just enough to demonstrate how to expand on the text.  If you prefer not to write your own, just leave these features inactive.

 

38 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

i didn't really get the whole contract system. In an earlier test setup i could submit to followers but wasn't offered a contract or anything.

It's a setting on the first page of the MCM.  You set up a contract duration before submitting to a follower.  Afterwards, under "About my being your slave?", you may ask your owner for a contract (or an extension) in exchange for gold, or just because you want it (the latter requires score 20+).

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I just wanted to say that this mod is really nice. Its one of those nice mods that you didn't know you needed until you had it :)

 

However, there is a point where the mod feels a bit odd. You're supposed to be the sub in the relationship between the PC and the owner. However, nothing stops you from applying any and all devices to the owner. There is no punishment for that, no need to unlock him/her. Furthermore, whenever devices are applied through means like cursed loot follower application, there is no rush to remove devices from the owner. It just feels weird that the owner takes all the device keys, but when they are locked in devices themselves they just don't seem to care, going even so far that the owner might be tied throughout an entire playthrough while the sub never gets tied once.

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28 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Examples are included with the mod.  If you want to use them, rename them according to the instructions in the text file in that folder.  The examples are minimal in content, just enough to demonstrate how to expand on the text.  If you prefer not to write your own, just leave these features inactive.

I see, thanks. I'd be curious and grateful thoughif anybody else came up with some, and if they would share. :)
 

It's a setting on the first page of the MCM.  You set up a contract duration before submitting to a follower.  Afterwards, under "About my being your slave?", you may ask your owner for a contract (or an extension) in exchange for gold, or just because you want it (the latter requires score 20+).

Ahhh... getting possibly paid was the part i was lacking/not getting. And therefore, for a not that submissve char at the start lacked some... immersion to ask for it. ;) Getting paid changes that though, thanks!

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9 minutes ago, rothaecin said:

You're supposed to be the sub in the relationship between the PC and the owner. However, nothing stops you from applying any and all devices to the owner.

Then don't do that.  ?  I understand what you're saying, but it's impractical for a mod to attempt to prevent every unreasonable thing that a player might think to do (I'm referring more to the human, than the character).  That sort of thing can be a lot of work, it might have bugs or side effects, and it could prevent the player from doing something reasonable.

 

Say that you're captured by bandits, and you think your owner should have been bound too.  Well, you can do that yourself, and try to forget that it was you who had to tie up the owner.  If a mod blocked you from doing that, it would be getting in your way.  But that could have a toggle.  More work, and the result of the mod maker's efforts is a feature that many players might not use.

 

So in the end it comes down to using your judgment.  Would your character really try to tie up the owner?  As a submissive slave?  If you just focus on what your character would do, and make decisions that are in character, these sorts of quandaries cease to be a problem.

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29 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Getting paid changes that though, thanks!

I might have unintentionally obscured that option's purpose by wording it in a manner that's too natural/immersive.  I'll look at adding something like "[contract]" at the end, so players won't overlook it.

 

Edit:  Done for the next update.  The two topics related to contracts will end with [Contract].

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Hi,

 

I love your mod, but there is something missing.  It is in the dialogue, probably nothing.  I actually envision to add it, but I wanted to pass it by you first.  When the owner want to pimp the PC it often refer to breed the PC.  But if the PC is a Vampire, a Succubus, or any other kind of eternal race, it can't breed.

 

So I was wondering if we could have a check done to use the Global PlayerIsVampire or PlayerIsSuccubus to change the dialogue to feed.  Well mostly feed if the PC is Succubus or Hybrid between Vamp and Succubus.  If she's just a Vamp, to release some steam and bring money.   None of those races can reproduce, so breed seems weird to hear. 

 

So in short, it would be pretty much the same dialogue, with "Feed" for Succubus or Hybrid  and "release some steam"  if vampire (plus the added income of course ?)

 

Beside that, I find your mod perfect, but don't let my lack of imagination stop you from improving it. ?

 

Thanks for all your hard work. ?

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