Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

54 minutes ago, Lyreal said:

Can you add the (Ebonite) Posture Collar to the Collar Device List too?

I'm not personally fond of posture collars (I think they'd hamper some of the things you're made to do) but yeah, I can make a note of it.

[Lyreal]

7 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I'm not personally fond of posture collars (I think they'd hamper some of the things you're made to do) but yeah, I can make a note of it.

 

Thx ^^

[wren888]

Thanks for your great work, Hex Bolt.

 

I'm playing Skyrim AE GOG 1.6.1179. I'm having difficulty with the dance quest. My character doesn't dance. She just stands there. Zaz 8.0+SE is installed, and my preferred dances are checked in the Submissive Lola MCM. Master compliments my character on the dancing, and she receives the submission score increase. Afterwards, she wipes sweat from her brow, as I have that option checked. When I was playing Skyrim LE, with Submissive Lola LE and Zaz 8.0 LE, my character danced fine.

 

As other mods were overwriting Zaz SE in the left pane of MO2, I moved Zaz below them, ran Pandora and WryeBash, but this didn't help.

 

I have Sanguine's Debauchery SE installed, which uses dances from Zaz too. The SD spell for dancing works fine on my character. Only the Submissive Lola dances (the same ones) fail.

 

I successfully used the SD LE dances when I played Skyrim LE as well.

 

I would greatly appreciate any guidance you might have I fixing my issue.

 

--edit--

 

Here I am 5 months later, and the Zaz dances are finally working for me. I'm not sure why. My guess is that it was a load order problem, though I tried various load orders before.

 

Excellent mod. Very enjoyable.

 

Cheers.

Edited November 24, 2025 by wren888

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, wren888 said:

I'm playing Skyrim AE GOG 1.6.1179. I'm having difficulty with the dance quest. My character doesn't dance. She just stands there.

Unfortunately, there's not much that I can offer since the cause is unknown.  Long ago, there was a Skyrim glitch that could be triggered with bad timing when a conversation ends, but I fixed that by decoupling dancing from the topic end.  Back then, one workaround was to open and close the console to get the dancing started.

 

You could try the feature for random dances using animations from GSPoses (added in SLTR 2.1.12).  Perhaps that would get around the mystery problem.  I think these dances look better too.

Edited June 25, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[wren888]

13 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

You could try the feature for random dances using animations from GSPoses (added in SLTR 2.1.12).  Perhaps that would get around the mystery problem. 

Thank you for your suggestion. Though at present I prefer the Zaz dances, your idea gave me an idea for a workaround. I relabeled the four dance animations I like from the Zaz mod: GS1, GS2, GS3, GS4, and put them in the GSPoses mod. Then I told the Submissive Lola MCM to use those four. Worked great. Thank you.

[wren888]

I have a problem with ending enslavement. My character's contract time has expired, as verified by the SLTR MCM. Her submission score, 44, is between the kept below and kept above submission scores in the MCM, 0 and 90, respectively. I always avoid the kept forever options. However, the option to request freedom does not appear, which I recall from when I played SLTR on Skyrim LE is in the dialogue tree under "master?" and "about my contract . . ." I don't see the option anywhere else either.

 

I have a lot of mods installed, about 500. However, SLTR is loaded late in my load order, and nothing overwrites it.

 

Like my problem in my post just above, I haven't found anyone else posting this difficulty. Am I missing something? Failing that, is there a console command I can use to make the request freedom option appear?

 

Thank you for your excellent mod(s), Hex Bolt.

Edited June 28, 2025 by wren888

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, wren888 said:

However, the option to request freedom does not appear, which I recall from when I played SLTR on Skyrim LE is in the dialogue tree under "master?" and "about my contract . . ."

Different subtopic.  Master? -> About my being your slave... -> I don't want to be a slave anymore. (it's all the way at the bottom of the topic choices).  If you really want out, be direct with your responses.  If you choose to explore the options you're offered, the owner concludes that you weren't serious and the ability to ask goes away for several hours.

[MeWako]

Hi, love your mod. I've been an old fan of it. And wondering. will you add Futa/shemale support in the future? 

[Hex Bolt]

27 minutes ago, AliAmiri said:

Hi, love your mod. I've been an old fan of it.

Great to hear!

 

27 minutes ago, AliAmiri said:

And wondering. will you add Futa/shemale support in the future?

I have no plans specifically for that kind of content, but it's possible that the mod will work alongside other mods that add such things.

[wren888]

4 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Different subtopic.  Master? -> About my being your slave... -> I don't want to be a slave anymore. (it's all the way at the bottom of the topic choices).  If you really want out, be direct with your responses.  If you choose to explore the options you're offered, the owner concludes that you weren't serious and the ability to ask goes away for several hours.

I remembered the dialogue tree down wrong in my last post. I did look at Master?-> About my being your slave . . . ->

I apologize. For that path, I got only four choices:

1. I need some gold. . . .

2. Can you do something to keep me . . .

3. You've made me a real slave. . . .

4. Master, are you happy with me?

 

I write "got" rather than "get" because I did a fresh install of SLTR, and the fifth choice appeared:

5. I don't want to be a slave anymore.

Yea.

 

Thank you for your patience with me.

 

You've done a wonderful job of quickly responding to people's difficulties as well as providing interesting new material. For years. With all your excellent mods. Thank you.

Edited June 28, 2025 by wren888

[MrEsturk]

A little unofficial experiment I made: I changed the owner to refer to the player as "Pet" instead of "Lola". The book and quest names are still Submissive Lola. I thought I'd share it for anyone who wanted a more neutral nickname. Built off version 2.1.13 (The newest public version as of 6/29/2025).

Lola_PetNickname.zip

[someperson1423]

I found (possibly) a bug with the Tomb Raider quest. I couldn't for the life of me get it to trigger, even going to the suggested and confirmed validated bosschests listed here in this thread. I couldn't even get it to complete with console commands, if I setstage or setobjectivecomplete to try to move past the point I was stuck on it would tell me to talk to my owner for reward but there would be no dialog to completed the quest. Decided to load an earlier save and poof, it worked fine.

 

In my case, it appears that the 24 hour warning broke the quest. If I load anywhere before the warning it works. In addition, if I stopquest then startquest then it works again with all the chests I tried originally and did not get it to trigger on.

 

Sorry if this is late or already stated, but if anyone is still having trouble getting this one to work, give this a try.

[Hex Bolt]

15 minutes ago, someperson1423 said:

I found (possibly) a bug with the Tomb Raider quest....

 

In my case, it appears that the 24 hour warning broke the quest.

Was that save perhaps from an old version?  A problem matching this description was fixed in version 2.1.4:  "Fixed:  For the Tomb Raider quest, the treasure would never appear during the final 24 hours."

Edited July 3, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[someperson1423]

On 7/3/2025 at 1:01 PM, Hex Bolt said:

Was that save perhaps from an old version?  A problem matching this description was fixed in version 2.1.4:  "Fixed:  For the Tomb Raider quest, the treasure would never appear during the final 24 hours."

 

*Sigh* yeah... I should know by now but it still throws me off at times that the new releases are at the bottom, not the top.

[MrEsturk]

I noticed a very minor typo in the Journal description:

 

It should probably read "The following are the rule I have to observe..."

[Hex Bolt]

22 minutes ago, MrEsturk said:

It should probably read "The following are the rule I have to observe..."

That's a carryover from the original mod.  Thanks for noting it.  I'll edit it a bit.

[CaptainJ03]

4 hours ago, MrEsturk said:

I noticed a very minor typo in the Journal description:
 

It should probably read "The following are the rule I have to observe..."

Doesn't look like a typo to me, makes perfect sense as it is. The difference is that Hex is using "following" as a verb, you want it to be a noun.

(In German it'd be "Es folgen..." vs. "Im Folgenden...")

 

Edited July 5, 2025 by CaptainJ03
made a typo myself, of course (sigh)

[MrEsturk]

It doesn't work as a verb in this case, given the context of the rest of the sentence. Not in typical English anyways.

[jasdffdsafads]

6 hours ago, MrEsturk said:

It should probably read "The following are the rule I have to observe..."

Shouldn't it rather be "I must abide by the following rules otherwise I will be punished" to be pedantic?

[wolfeman77346]

Its interpreted as: Following [after this sentence] are the rules... which does appear to be proper English.

 

[Seeker999]

Well...

The first 2 sentences are in 1st person. Then you get a more passive "Following are..." IMO it's a slight disconnect and if you want to change it I'd go more for "I must follow these rules or be punished." I think using observe instead of follow is fine, but seems a little less active or immediate, less forceful to the situation than follow. But that's just me. 

[Herowynne]

22 minutes ago, Seeker999 said:

"I must follow these rules or be punished."

I like this. 👍

[Hex Bolt]

Oh my, I didn't expect so many comments on a truly minor wording issue.  The current wording is the same as in the original mod, except that I shortened the end of the sentence at a place where it was a bit awkward.  Personally, I'm fine with it as it is now (I had to reread it a few times to grasp the problem with the usage of "following"), but I agree with MrEsturk that it can be improved.

 

Short, direct, forceful wording works best when discussing the owner's rules and desires*.  I think a slightly shorter version of the suggestion by "J" (too many random letters to type ) will be a good improvement, removing any possible confusion and increasing the statement's forcefulness:  "I must abide by the following rules or be punished."

 

 

* Present-day English is often too polite and indirect in everyday use.  That's fine for avoiding offending anyone, but it's inappropriate for the owner.  The owner commands, never requests.  Unless the owner is toying with Lola, presenting a task as a fun opportunity, imperative sentences work best.  I remember years ago, trying to express that concept to the original developer of Devious Followers, that "you need to" sentences in particular lack force.  You even can see that in the game.  I recall trying to turn in a quest after dark in an NPC's home (before I discovered Simply Knock).  The NPC viewed that as trespassing and kept repeating, "You need to leave."  No, what I need is to tell you that I completed the quest that you begged me to undertake.  That's what I need, so I can get my reward and be on my way.  An angry homeowner should be saying "Please leave," "I want you to leave," or simply "Get out!" rather than expressing it as some need on my part.  So, words matter.

[quarker]

Any advice on what vampiric feeding animations to install for a vampire Master/Mistress? 
I tried a bunch but non of them seem to work so I always get standard sex animations instead of feeding. 

[Herowynne]

58 minutes ago, quarker said:

Any advice on what vampiric feeding animations to install for a vampire Master/Mistress? 
I tried a bunch but non of them seem to work so I always get standard sex animations instead of feeding. 

Go to the main page for this mod, then expand the spoiler section that is titled “Add-ons”.

 

In that section @Hex Bolt has listed vampire feeding animations, including my mod: