Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Talesien]

3 hours ago, Marx Daniel said:

Hello Hex,  first of all, I want to thank you immensely for this incredible mod. I wanted to ask you a few questions about compatibility with other mods. Would Submissive Lola work well with Binding?

I really like these two mods, but I'm not sure if they would work well together. Thanks again.

You can make both work together pretty well. It does involve some work in setting it up, though. While getting tied into furniture was a major part of Binding in the start, it has since evolved a lot and is highly configurable. If you set it up badly, though, expect things to clash badly. LazyPalm took great care to allow co-use especially with SLTR, one of the reasons many features come disabled by default. It's on you though to make it work and customize to your liking.
Personally, I find both together a bit much (unless one or the others, most likely bindings, is toned down to be almost non-existent), but that's a matter of taste.

Edited July 29, 2025 by Talesien

[kingsglaive]

17 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I think you can use both in your game, but I wouldn't say that they'd work "well" together.  Being immobilized will reduce your available time to offer service to meet your quotas for Sub Lola, and chastity belts can limit your ability to engage in sex (which is major part of this mod) and some events.  However, you can probably configure them to minimize interference.

Whenever I open the console and use the code SetStage vkjPimpedBasic 0 to start the prostitution mission (I'll be using this to simulate the Master forcing Lola into prostitution), if Lola is gagged, the Master will ungag her.
I'm thinking that when Lola is bound, whenever the Master wants to order her to complete a task, the Master will temporarily untie her, and then she'll be bound again after she completes the Master's request.

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, kingsglaive said:

Whenever I open the console and use the code SetStage vkjPimpedBasic 0 to start the prostitution mission (I'll be using this to simulate the Master forcing Lola into prostitution), if Lola is gagged, the Master will ungag her.
I'm thinking that when Lola is bound, whenever the Master wants to order her to complete a task, the Master will temporarily untie her, and then she'll be bound again after she completes the Master's request.

This mod attempts to avoid causing problems for other mods that might occur if it removes bondage devices when another mod expects a device of that type to be equipped.  It tries not to start a quest, such as prostitution, when the situation would make finishing that quest difficult or impossible.  If you choose to use the console to force an event to start, that bypasses this mod's checks for whether the conditions are suitable, so it would be your responsibility to deal with any problems that this causes.  You can always ask your master to remove a bondage device, although he might not agree (depending on the device) and the removal is permanent.

Edited July 30, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[IBAGadget]

Very fun mod. Makes for an interesting change from the usual explore/fight/loot. 

I do have a couple questions though:

 

First: Recently added IWantWidgets to my modlist, and I get this message when I load a game after I've started the mod

 

How do I set this up? I'm guessing this is for the custom confessions messages?

 

*EDIT* ok, so I think I have this part figured out.

 

Second:

Just had the quest where I have to choose my punishment item, and Mistress tells me that if I bring her a feather duster, she'll shove it up my ass and choose her own device.

Is there a special scene if you bring her a feather duster?

If so, where do I get a feather duster from?

Edited August 3, 2025 by IBAGadget

[Hex Bolt]

45 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

*EDIT* ok, so I think I have this part figured out.

Oh, good.  If you play around with it, the use of color and positioning can make warnings and violations much easier to notice.

 

46 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

Just had the quest where I have to choose my punishment item, and Mistress tells me that if I bring her a feather duster, she'll shove it up my ass and choose her own device.

Is there a special scene if you bring her a feather duster?

If so, where do I get a feather duster from?

No, scene, that's just a bit of humor.    

[IBAGadget]

Damn. Was kinda hoping for a nice scene of that. Someone should make a nice animation sequence for that 

 

and by someone, I mean 'not me' 

I have no idea how to make animations. Hell, I can barely keep my game running 80% of the time as I have no idea how to properly resolve mod conflicts in SSEEdit that isn't going to result in more shit breaking.

 

As an addon to that scenario, after you get a good stiff breast whipping, you then have to go around the house and dust the furniture with the duster that is still shoved in your ass. Once you're done, only then can you ask your master/mistress if they can remove the duster from your ass. Or, you could choose to keep it in as you enjoy the feathers tickling your thighs. 

Edited August 3, 2025 by IBAGadget

[Anunya]

So I've been poking about with the process for changing the name Lola to something else, as described here and here.

 

I installed the plugin and exported the esp as a JSON. I started editing it and I wondered - is there anyone here who edited the exported esp and replaced the name already and confirmed that it worked who'd be willing to share the resultant JSON?

 

It turns out (unsurprisingly) that editing the JSON is a non-trivial amount of work - especially if you're double checking that you're not replacing the wrong things - so if someone has gone through this process successfully it'd be great to see it shared  

[Hex Bolt]

28 minutes ago, Anunya said:

is there anyone here who edited the exported esp and replaced the name already and confirmed that it worked who'd be willing to share the resultant JSON?

An important consideration is that the file must have been generated from the same version that you're importing into, or you'll really mess up the ESP.

 

29 minutes ago, Anunya said:

It turns out (unsurprisingly) that editing the JSON is a non-trivial amount of work - especially if you're double checking that you're not replacing the wrong things...

Hopefully, you're not manually changing each occurrence of "Lola" (that would be crazy).  It's not quite "trivial", but any text editor that supports global case-sensitive replacements (like Windows Notepad) makes it fast and easy.  If you follow my guide in the second link, it's just 6 global replacements, maybe a minute of work.  With an editor like Notepad++ that has macros, the editing process truly is trivial after the first time.

 

For me, the tiresome part is waiting for the import to complete, but it's not bad if I let that run while I'm busy with something else.

[Anunya]

50 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

An important consideration is that the file must have been generated from the same version that you're importing into, or you'll really mess up the ESP.

 

A good reminder, thank you. And a good reason not to share such files here, because inevitably someone would use the wrong version at a later date...

 

50 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Hopefully, you're not manually changing each occurrence of "Lola" (that would be crazy).  It's not quite "trivial", but any text editor that supports global case-sensitive replacements (like Windows Notepad) makes it fast and easy.  If you follow my guide in the second link, it's just 6 global replacements, maybe a minute of work.  With an editor like Notepad++ that has macros, the editing process truly is trivial after the first time.

 

I wasn't 100% confident that the 6 global replacements would be sufficient - I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to search and replace like that - but with your reassurance, I'll give it a go. Thanks  

 

I'm using Notepad++, but don't know how to use the macros so I'll just go with the basic search and replace.

 

50 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

 

For me, the tiresome part is waiting for the import to complete, but it's not bad if I let that run while I'm busy with something else.

 

I'm literally taking months to build my current load order, I'll be able to cope with a few minutes wait  

[Hex Bolt]

41 minutes ago, Anunya said:

I wasn't 100% confident that the 6 global replacements would be sufficient - I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to search and replace like that - but with your reassurance, I'll give it a go.

It's how I do it; it works.  Just be sure to import with JPImportFiltered and select only the fields listed in the guild.

 

31 minutes ago, Anunya said:

I'm using Notepad++, but don't know how to use the macros so I'll just go with the basic search and replace.

It's easy.  Under Macros, select Start Recording, make your global case-sensitive replacements, then stop recording and name the macro.  You can later edit the macro to use a different name.  Here's an example to save you from doing even that.  Place it in C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Roaming\Notepad++.  This will replace any macros that you previously created (but you said you haven't made any).  Extract and edit the shortcuts.xml file to replace Lollipop with your desired pet name.  When you run Notepad++ again, you'll see it in the Macros menu.  Just click it.  It runs so fast, you'll think that nothing happened, but a quick search for your new name will show that it worked.

 

shortcuts.7z

[Anunya]

Amazing!

 

Now I'm just left with actually committing to whatever name I'm going to use  

 

Something more derogatory? Another name? Something explicitly sexual? Something matter of fact?

[Hex Bolt]

18 minutes ago, Anunya said:

Now I'm just left with actually committing to whatever name I'm going to use  

Something more derogatory? Another name? Something explicitly sexual? Something matter of fact?

There are a couple of general approaches.  First, think about the owner.  Is she the type who's had several slaves in the past and can't be bothered to come up with a new pet name, so all her slaves are named Emily, as in The Devil Wears Prada?  It's simple and depersonalizing.

 

Alternatively, the owner might want a name that fits the slave.  Unless you have a perfect name in mind, it can work out better to wait until it's time for enslavement (either your character is ready to submit or is in the slave pen ready for auction).  The circumstances at the time might suggest a name.  Here's an example from an old game.

 

Spoiler

The girl had been tricked and cheated as soon as she arrived in the city and now found herself working as a prostitute in bondage for an exploitively small share to pay off a debt.  Future Mistress sees an opportunity and offers to help -- if the girl will agree to serve her (terms of service conveniently left vague).  When the girl accepts, Mistress pays off her debt, removes her bondage, and collects her pay for her, which after penalties amounts to 6 septims for that blowjob.  Mistress drops the coins in the girl's hand one at a time to emphasize how few they are.  She'd performed sex for 6 coins.  To remind her of how pathetic she was before Mistress "rescued" her, Mistress names her Six.

 

[kingsglaive]

Want to try this?

Renting a Sex Slave

The Master is short on money. So, he plans to rent Lola out to someone else as a sex slave to collect rent. During the rental period, Lola will serve a new temporary Master, performing the same duties she performed for the previous Master. When the rental contract expires, the new Master will return Lola to the previous Master for a substantial sum of money.

If the previous Master is in the same city, they will bring Lola back in person. If not, they will instruct a carriage driver to take Lola to the previous Master's city, tie her up, and then hand her over to the previous Master. The carriage driver will then take advantage of the situation and demand sex from Lola for his payment.

Once Lola arrives in the previous Master's city, she will have to find the Master herself.

This new Master can be set up as another follower.

[gegging]

Is it possible to make the mod create a generic master-follower NPC for Simple Slavery outcomes as well as selecting from vanilla or modded followers? I like this mod most out of the current available slavery mods.

[Hex Bolt]

20 minutes ago, gegging said:

I like this mod most out of the current available slavery mods.

Thanks, great to hear!

 

20 minutes ago, gegging said:

Is it possible to make the mod create a generic master-follower NPC for Simple Slavery outcomes as well as selecting from vanilla or modded followers?

It depends on what you mean.

 

You do have the ability to set up a list of buyers, ones you know you'd like to see your character serve and engage in sex.  A comprehensive list of all eligible followers would likely raise objections.  A player would probably want to filter the list by sex, but what about race or other factors?  Some vanilla followers might seem too easygoing to be good masters.  By the time you've eliminated the less appropriate characters for your tastes, you have a custom list of buyers, the same as using the existing feature.

 

If you just want a "generic" NPC who can be a follower, add the SD+ masters in the slave market to the list of buyers.  If you're not also using the SD+ auction outcome, there's no conflict.  (There are 14 SD+ masters, 7 men and 7 women, but only about half are visible in the market to reduce crowding.  I can provide a list of the nonvisible ones, if desired.)

[gegging]

4 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

If you just want a "generic" NPC who can be a follower, add the SD+ masters in the slave market to the list of buyers.

Yes. Something like SanguineDebauchery+ where generic NPCs can become your master with SS++ outcomes. SubmissiveLola has the better balance than Sanguine for what I want.

So I can use only the masters from that mod?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, gegging said:

So I can use only the masters from that mod?

No, you can use any NPC that is eligible to become a follower.

[Psalam]

10 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

No, you can use any NPC that is eligible to become a follower.

AND, if you have someone in mind who is not already a follower, you can make them into a follower by using the console and the addfac command

[Psalam]

10 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

No, you can use any NPC that is eligible to become a follower.

AND, if you have someone in mind who is not already a follower, you can make them into a follower by using the console and the addfac command

[CaptainJ03]

Came across an oddity.

Nudity rule active, Mistress locked me (via Binding) in a bondage furniture from "I'll take the Display Model" - and this mod complained that I was wearing forbidden items.

Similar occurence when in Solitude with the Fashion event: "do not hide your outfit under clothing or armor" when locked in furniture.

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Came across an oddity.

Nudity rule active, Mistress locked me (via Binding) in a bondage furniture from "I'll take the Display Model" - and this mod complained that I was wearing forbidden items.

Similar occurence when in Solitude with the Fashion event: "do not hide your outfit under clothing or armor" when locked in furniture.

Contraptions can equip a nameless "no waiting" item, but it has no keywords and uses no slot, so SLTR won't care.  Binding doesn't add armor items, so it wouldn't be at fault.  Display Model's Lemonade/Juice Leak does have forbidden clothing keywords.  I tried using a Contraptions pillory and saw no invalid keywords on my character (ClothingBody, ArmorCuirass).

 

Can you lock yourself in a contraption that caused problems and check your WornHasKeywords?  If there's an invalid one, try removing everything first, then use the furniture and check inventory with the console to see what nameless items are equipped.

Edited August 11, 2025 by Hex Bolt

[Kingslayer101]

Do you really need GSPoses? Im sadly at my load order limit so cant install it. Do we have the usual kneeling anim?
Not really looking for the dancing anims yet.

Edited August 11, 2025 by Kingslayer101

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

Contraptions can equip a nameless "no waiting" item, but it has no keywords and uses no slot, so SLTR won't care.  Binding doesn't add armor items, so it wouldn't be at fault.  Display Model's Lemonade/Juice Leak does have forbidden clothing keywords.  I tried using a Contraptions pillory and saw no invalid keywords on my character (ClothingBody, ArmorCuirass).

 

Can you lock yourself in a contraption that caused problems and check your WornHasKeywords?  If there's an invalid one, try removing everything first, then use the furniture and check inventory with the console to see what nameless items are equipped.

Locking myself into the Tanning Rack or the Queenbreaker (from DM3) I get zero on ClothingBody or ArmorCuirass. Anything else to look for?

I didn't get zapped, so there's nothing wrong. I was just wondering why I get these messages, so no need to get into debugging mode.

 

42 minutes ago, Kingslayer101 said:

Do you really need GSPoses? Im sadly at my load order limit so cant install it. Do we have the usual kneeling anim?

No, they're just used for a different pose for whipping. Kneeling works just fine without them (I think the kneeling animation is from ZAP, but don't quote me on that)

[Hex Bolt]

43 minutes ago, Kingslayer101 said:

Do you really need GSPoses?

No, it's optional.  That's why it is not listed in the mod requirements.

 

44 minutes ago, Kingslayer101 said:

Do we have the usual kneeling anim?

Yes.

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Locking myself into the Tanning Rack or the Queenbreaker (from DM3) I get zero on ClothingBody or ArmorCuirass. Anything else to look for?

I didn't get zapped, so there's nothing wrong. I was just wondering why I get these messages, so no need to get into debugging mode.

It might be a temporary thing.  The first message is a warning.  Punishment occurs on the second warning and beyond, unless you get back into compliance so that the process starts over.