Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[CaptainJ03]

5 hours ago, bark1313 said:

I made a mistake during installation, the SE patch should have been disabled. Bastard version of NG,

That's why DD NG ships with an empty SE patch so it doesn't matter if you forget to disable it.

[Astrann1]

4 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

This can occasionally happen if the path to the owner's whipping spot is blocked by proximity to a wall or furniture.

it has been happening outside, nothing was in path blocking 

[Hex Bolt]

46 minutes ago, Astrann1 said:

it has been happening outside, nothing was in path blocking 

That's the usual cause, but there could be others.  If she looks likes she'd shuffling her feet (rather than simply walking into an invisible obstacle), she's locked in place by some mod.  To pin down what's interfering, you'll probably have to do the process of elimination with a new game and a minimal set of mods enabled, retesting whipping and gradually enabling mods until you find the culprit.  The console command "set vkjtest to 1" will enable some test commands under the "Mistress?" dialog topic, including one for whipping.

[Astrann1]

19 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

That's the usual cause, but there could be others.  If she looks likes she'd shuffling her feet (rather than simply walking into an invisible obstacle), she's locked in place by some mod.  To pin down what's interfering, you'll probably have to do the process of elimination with a new game and a minimal set of mods enabled, retesting whipping and gradually enabling mods until you find the culprit.  The console command "set vkjtest to 1" will enable some test commands under the "Mistress?" dialog topic, including one for whipping.

But i dont get it what would be blocking the path right in front of her. i have 600 mods if i would disable (because for sure there is no chance i would disable the first mod and would stamble on which was the culprit) many mods, and only corrupt my save. im sure, its the Open Animation Replacer conflicting, since you even included it in the compatibility section. ill try later to disable the movesets and ran pandora to see if the problem persists 

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, Astrann1 said:

But i dont get it what would be blocking the path right in front of her.

As I said, a blocked path is only the usual problem.  There's a game function that tells an NPC to not move.  If that actor tries to walk, it just sort of shuffles in place, trying to get to the destination but unable because it's locked in place.

 

5 hours ago, Astrann1 said:

i have 600 mods if i would disable (because for sure there is no chance i would disable the first mod and would stamble on which was the culprit) many mods, and only corrupt my save.

Not if you test with a new game.  The test command that I mentioned helps to do that quickly after you get enslaved.

 

5 hours ago, Astrann1 said:

im sure, its the Open Animation Replacer conflicting...

Maaaybe, but probably not.  Animation replacers can interfere with swinging the punishment crop, but not with moving into position.

[AlyssaAwoo]

Are there any simpler follower frameworks that work with Submissive Lola? I don't really want all the fancy outfits and configs from UFO, EFF and such. 

 

Also regarding the gold sharing/allowance features, are there any "Out of the box" settings available? Never really touched them since striking a good balance seems tough.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, AlyssaAwoo said:

Are there any simpler follower frameworks that work with Submissive Lola? I don't really want all the fancy outfits and configs from UFO, EFF and such. 

You don't actually need any follower framework unless you want more than one follower.  I like NFF, but any one will do.  You don't need to spend time configuring it, but I do like NFF's follower sandboxing feature to give the owner the illusion of having more agency, so I take the time to set up that much.

 

1 hour ago, AlyssaAwoo said:

Also regarding the gold sharing/allowance features, are there any "Out of the box" settings available? Never really touched them since striking a good balance seems tough.

No, because players differ so much in how they set up their game economy.  Some want gold to be difficult to acquire; others like having to use a wheelbarrow to carry their septims to the market.  You could start with a configuration that seems generous, then tighten it up as you get a feeling for how it affects your game.

[kingsglaive]

(Time to Relax) Can we add a reason?
The Master has been exploring for a long time. He wants to rest, drink and have fun in a hotel. He orders Lola to find a tavern and open a room to rest.
Another idea: The Master has recently invented a new game.
The Master will equip Lola with a heavy iron ball with ankle chains, which will slow down Lola. The Master will also blindfold Lola and put her in darkness (Devious Devices can be set). The Master can also tie up Lola and then follow her with a whip. If Lola walks slowly, he will whip her.
Then set a target point. Lola must keep walking forward to the target point to avoid being whipped. Since the blindness increases the difficulty, Lola is always whipped.

[MMX3K]

Quick question, is there supposed to be an animation or anything when the master asks you to clean his boots when you enter a Jarl's house? Cause when I say yes nothing at all happens not even a response. If so what do you think I'm missing?

[Hex Bolt]

34 minutes ago, MMX3K said:

Quick question, is there supposed to be an animation or anything when the master asks you to clean his boots when you enter a Jarl's house? Cause when I say yes nothing at all happens not even a response. If so what do you think I'm missing?

The animation ZapLickFeet from Zaz Animation Pack.  You might have skipped running FNIS.

 

I see that you're a new member.  Welcome to LoversLab!

[MMX3K]

3 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

The animation ZapLickFeet from Zaz Animation Pack.  You might have skipped running FNIS.

 

I see that you're a new member.  Welcome to LoversLab!

Thanks, and thanks for the fast reply. So I just went crazy doing everything I could, thinking my Zaz was messed up as I did run FNIS. Then I decided to type "player.sae ZapLickFeet" into the console and it works. So now I'm just really confused.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, MMX3K said:

Thanks, and thanks for the fast reply. So I just went crazy doing everything I could, thinking my Zaz was messed up as I did run FNIS. Then I decided to type "player.sae ZapLickFeet" into the console and it works. So now I'm just really confused.

Unfortunately, I don't know why it wouldn't work, unless something else is blocking the scene by starting its own scene.  That would do it.  If you talk to the owner and select "Master/Mistress?" it will warn you if you're stuck in a scene.  However, if the interfering scene is brief/transient, you might no longer be blocked.  This isn't a common problem, so it has to be something weird like that.

[dokozono]

I still love your MOD.
It's so hard to stop being a slave, and even though I finally managed to do so, I still feel unsatisfied and beg to be made a slave again.
Now, about the Gold Share feature, for some unknown reason, it has stopped working.
If there is a way to force a restart, please let me know.

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, dokozono said:

Now, about the Gold Share feature, for some unknown reason, it has stopped working.

Gold sharing can be suspended during prostitution.  That might be the cause.

[dokozono]

8 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Gold sharing can be suspended during prostitution.  That might be the cause.

I noticed this while selling loot after completing a normal adventure, not during a prostitution quest.
When selling during trade, the action of temporarily adding gold to the inventory and reducing the amount of gold set by percentage was not working...
I'm not sure why this happened, but I think it was stuck for a long time after another MOD event, when I asked Submissive Lola's master about something.

[Hex Bolt]

18 minutes ago, dokozono said:

When selling during trade, the action of temporarily adding gold to the inventory and reducing the amount of gold set by percentage was not working

I'm not sure why it would get stuck, but you could try the console command "setpqv vkjmq PauseGoldSharing false".

[nopse0]

On 6/13/2025 at 4:28 AM, MMX3K said:

Thanks, and thanks for the fast reply. So I just went crazy doing everything I could, thinking my Zaz was messed up as I did run FNIS. Then I decided to type "player.sae ZapLickFeet" into the console and it works. So now I'm just really confused.

I had the same with sweeping. No animation played, but the sweep was registered ("1/3 sweeps" message or so after a few seconds). I found out, the animation doesn't play if I am holding a shield. If I unequip the shield, the animation plays. Perhaps the bone is needed for the broom in the animation, but is blocked by holding the shield, or so ?

[Hex Bolt]

46 minutes ago, nopse0 said:

I had the same with sweeping. No animation played, but the sweep was registered ("1/3 sweeps" message or so after a few seconds). I found out, the animation doesn't play if I am holding a shield. If I unequip the shield, the animation plays. Perhaps the bone is needed for the broom in the animation, but is blocked by holding the shield, or so ?

Thanks.  I made a note to look at possibly temporarily unequipping a shield for sweeping. 

[dokozono]

2 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

I'm not sure why it would get stuck, but you could try the console command "setpqv vkjmq PauseGoldSharing false".

Great!
That solution fixed it in one shot!
I am truly grateful!

[IBAGadget]

New user here, and have a couple questions:

When under clothing restrictions (have to be naked), what is looked at as far as determining whether or not you have violating clothing/armor equipped? Is it based on bodyslots, or some other mechanic?

 

Kinda tired of having to remove glasses, earrings, nipple piercings, belly piercings and vaginal piercings just so the mod considers me to not be wearing head/body/hand/feet items
Would it be possible to have a tie-in to Advanced Nudity Detection? require Lola to be considered Topless/Bottomless/Showing Ass/Chest/Genitals instead?

 

would it be possible to have the mod recognize when Lola is currently in an animation or other dialogue scene that prevents responding/talking to her owner? I had already triggered an animation (getting whored out by my mistress) when I got notified that my mistress was beckoning to me. Being unable to respond (I was in the middle of doing what she wanted me to do) she got more upset, and I got zapped repeatedly, resulting in a net loss of over 35 points of submission.

 

Regarding timed events (cook a meal, you have 3/6 minutes; fetch this, you have 1 hr, etc) what time is used? game time or real time? Do I have 6 minutes of real time to track down ingredients, run into the inn, kick the npc off the cookpot, cook the meal, then run back outside with food, or is it 6 minutes of game time? If game time, you are completely screwed if you have to find a single ingredient, even if the innkeeper has it, as the dialogue tree takes so much game time to go through, not to mention the added minutes of game time just going in and out of the inn door.

 

I'm now packing about 80lbs worth of meal ingredients, as well as the contents of a well-stocked bar just in case Mistress wants food or a drink. Nothing quite like being in the middle of the wilderness and she suddenly wants a bottle of Alto wine or a Honningbrew Mead.

 

Would it be possible to have it recognize if Frostfall is enabled so as to reduce the chances of Lola being forced to be naked for extended periods of time below certain temperatures? Naked slaves don't live long in the snowy watelands around Dawnstar/Winterhold/Windhelm/Morthal

 

I'm otherwise enjoying the mod quite a bit. Was starting to get bored with Skyrim, and this has spiced things up enough to keep it moderately interesting at least.

[Hex Bolt]

52 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

When under clothing restrictions (have to be naked), what is looked at as far as determining whether or not you have violating clothing/armor equipped? Is it based on bodyslots, or some other mechanic?

It's a keyword check.  Armor is not allowed (ArmorLight, ArmorHeavy) and the torso must be exposed (ClothingBody, ArmorCuirass).  Depending on the variation of the nudity requirement, hands (ClothingHands, ArmorGauntlets) and head (ClohingHead, ArmorHelmet) might also have to be bare.  Unless you're told otherwise, jewelry (including circlets) is okay.  Unarmored footwear is also okay.

 

If you're having trouble with nudity violations, you're probably using armor or clothing from a mod that was sloppy with its keyword assignments (e.g., a cloak might erroneously have been given the ClothingBody keyword), in which case you'll have to remove those keywords.  Mods that add armor rating to devious devices will also conflict because those items will have armor keywords.  Accessories like glasses or earrings should have jewelry keywords, not clothing ones, so if they are tagged as ClothingHead (same as a hat) that's just wrong and it will confuse this mod.

 

You can pinpoint the offending item(s) through elimination, or use console commands to identify the keyword(s) on your equipped gear that are causing you trouble, such as "Player.WornHasKeyword ClothingBody".

 

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

would it be possible to have the mod recognize when Lola is currently in an animation or other dialogue scene that prevents responding/talking to her owner? I had already triggered an animation (getting whored out by my mistress) when I got notified that my mistress was beckoning to me. Being unable to respond (I was in the middle of doing what she wanted me to do) she got more upset, and I got zapped repeatedly, resulting in a net loss of over 35 points of submission.

The mod does check that.  Having sex, being in combat, or engaging in similar activities will cause the owner to hold off on insisting on talking to you.  Are you using SexLab?  Some of the sex animation replacers are not fully compatible and possibly did not place your character in SexLabAnimatingFaction.

 

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

Regarding timed events (cook a meal, you have 3/6 minutes; fetch this, you have 1 hr, etc) what time is used? game time or real time?

If it says minutes, that's real minutes.  If it says hours, that should be game hours (though there might be a few places where I forgot to check time scale if you're using something other than the default).

 

You should have plenty of time to cook the meal, especially if you sprint.  Unlike fetching an ale, the owner will travel with you into the inn and be right there when you cook the meal.

 

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

I'm now packing about 80lbs worth of meal ingredients, as well as the contents of a well-stocked bar just in case Mistress wants food or a drink. Nothing quite like being in the middle of the wilderness and she suddenly wants a bottle of Alto wine or a Honningbrew Mead.

That's a good slave (80 units is rather excessive, though).

 

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

Would it be possible to have it recognize if Frostfall is enabled so as to reduce the chances of Lola being forced to be naked for extended periods of time below certain temperatures?

I prefer not to get into trying to support survival mods.  I assume that players who choose to use them with this mod have a cloak (which is allowed if it's unarmored and not body clothing) or some sort of jewelry of warmth.  This mod does limit some outdoor activities in Windhelm just because it looks so cold, and it tries to account for active rain or snow when starting naked short-term tasks.

 

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

I'm otherwise enjoying the mod quite a bit. Was starting to get bored with Skyrim, and this has spiced things up enough to keep it moderately interesting at least.

Great!  I think you just need to remove a few incorrect keywords.  Perhaps other players who use Frostfall can offer tips on how they use it with this mod.

[IBAGadget]

Thanks for the info. I'll definitely check to see what keywords are on my various piercings, fingernails, etc.
Fortunately, I know what mods they all came from, so it will be quicker for me to open them up in Xedit and have a look.

 

I am using Sexlab, as well as FlowerGirls (although SL takes priority, and it was definitely an SL-driven scene based on the items that were not stripped), so your thought that it was an animation that wasn't properly tagging the PC is the likely culprit.

 

As far as freezing goes, I'll have to look into what I can enchant my piercings with that will actually provide a decent level of warmth and frost resistance. It really doesn't take long, even with modified temperature adjustments, to get to the 'freezing to death' stage in Frostfall if you don't have clothing on. I no longer use the Toys & Love framework, so I don't have access to the Hot & Wet items that provide increasing amounts of warmth as arousal goes up.

[IBAGadget]

I think I found the culprits

 

- Sharkish Piercings all have the ClothingHand keyword, so I'll have to go through all of those and remove it.

- Ayleid Piercings all have ClothingRing keywords

- Caernavon Glasses have ClothingCirclet keyword

- Ordinary Girly Nails have ClothingRing keywords

- Vergi Jewelry III has ArmorJewelry and ClothingRing keywords

 

Now, I'm not sure if any of these keywords affect the enchantability of the items, so I'm going to leave them alone until I know for sure.

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

Now, I'm not sure if any of these keywords affect the enchantability of the items, so I'm going to leave them alone until I know for sure.

Ring, Circlet, and Jewelry are okay.

[Lyreal]

Just a quick question: Can you add the (Ebonite) Posture Collar to the Collar Device List too?