Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[crococat]

7 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Run "sqv vkjmq" in the console and look for ::NoWhipping_var.  Is it true or false?

::NoWhipping_var=false

::NumPlayerHits_var=204

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[Hex Bolt]

@crococat, unfortunately, I don't know what would cause the problem that you described.  No one else has reported this, so it seems to be unique to your game.  Perhaps another mod is affecting your follower.  Also, whippings should update the count for whipping in the MCM, not spankings.

 

You can test whipping with this process, but I don't know what else to suggest:

 

In the console:  Set vkjTest to 1.  (Set this back to 0 when you've finished testing.)

 

Talk to the owner.  Select Master/Mistress, then "[TEST] I want to test something", then "I've been bad.  Whip me."

[Gameplayer]

So I decided this run to just see how far into the negative I could go.

 

As a result my character got gagged.

Quest log says it is for, "6 hours"

Now of course I was not thinking, 6 actual real world hours!?

Several days in game passed some of them played through.

 

I was expecting consistency of say you can offer service every 2 in game hours, so clearly if you are gagged for 6 hours it should be 6 in game hours.

Reminds me too much of some of the weirdness Kimy wanted to get up to with locking mechanisms on devious devices being in actual real world played game time at that point may as well roll another character.

[iuwhdyuerh2873]

Hi there, any idea of what could be causing the MCM for this mod to not show up?

[Hex Bolt]

17 minutes ago, Gameplayer said:

I was expecting consistency of say you can offer service every 2 in game hours, so clearly if you are gagged for 6 hours it should be 6 in game hours.

The duration is 6 game hours (RegisterForSingleUpdateGameTime).  However, pestering the owner for early release adds more time.  "No.  In fact, I'm going to make you stay gagged longer."  (There is a small chance for a good slave to be granted a reprieve, but that chance is zero for a rebellious slave.)  Asking more than once to be released early adds increasingly more time each time you ask, so effectively there's no limit if you keep asking.  The owner will remove the gag automatically when the time expires.

[Hex Bolt]

19 minutes ago, iuwhdyuerh2873 said:

Hi there, any idea of what could be causing the MCM for this mod to not show up?

A non-appearing MCM is a generic problem (search any major mod's support discussion and you'll probably find someone saying the MCM doesn't appear), but I can suggest general remedies:

 

- If you use a mod that reorders the list of mods in the MCM, recently-added mods might appear at the bottom.

- Be sure that you have installed the prerequisites and that they are working.

- Check that it is enabled in your mod manager.

- Save and reload your game.

- Try "setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1" in the console and wait a minute.

- Enter any other mod's MCM menu, then exit and wait a minute.

- If you have many mods, you might have exceeded the MCM limit.

- Reinstall the mod.  That sometimes works for people.

[dokozono]

Thank you for your help!
Last time you taught us how to set up a gold share!
This time we are talking about quests where the owner asks for gold and the money is given to the owner at 20:00.
Each time I complete a quest, the next payment should increase by a multiplier set by MCM, but after some increase, it does not increase any more.
Is there a limit to the amount of payment?

[Hex Bolt]

21 minutes ago, dokozono said:

This time we are talking about quests where the owner asks for gold and the money is given to the owner at 20:00.
Each time I complete a quest, the next payment should increase by a multiplier set by MCM, but after some increase, it does not increase any more.
Is there a limit to the amount of payment?

The limit is whatever you set it to in the MCM.  The default is 10,000.

[crococat]

12 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Talk to the owner.  Select Master/Mistress, then "[TEST] I want to test something", then "I've been bad.  Whip me."

While testing counter in MCM works, whipping and spanking good and bad numbers are ok.

And spanking in test mod use SLAL animations, as in DF mod.

But bug with whipping still exist.

Before test mod events were counting as spanking but sequence was as whipping.

Thanks for advise but seems you cant help more. I have in SE similiar (and much more) mods as in LE, but problem is only in LE.

Will try to start game with Lola only and see what will happen, than will add mods one by one if all would be ok. Will report results but maybe not soon.

 

P.S. Started with only DD SOS ZAZ Sexlab and all is ok. Will investigate

 

Solved. It was WhiterunBrothel mod. It had many zaz scripts so found it easily. Deleting scripts does nothing, so had to delete mod comletely and all is ok now.

It is very old mod, thats why seems noone use it. Had merged it when was added homes to game and forgot about it.

Thanks for help. Without test options it may be impossible to find source of problem.

Edited April 21, 2025 by crococat

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, crococat said:

Solved. It was WhiterunBrothel mod. It had many zaz scripts so found it easily. Deleting scripts does nothing, so had to delete mod comletely and all is ok now.

Thank you for reporting the cause.  Maybe that will save someone else a lot of trouble if it happens to another player.  It seems that the old Whiterun Brothel made changes to ZAP that causes trouble.  I will note this on the mod page.

[lovalter]

First time trying a male owner and noticed that master is all in lowercase, any way to make it capitalized?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, lovalter said:

First time trying a male owner and noticed that master is all in lowercase, any way to make it capitalized?

That's a Skyrim thing.  The game remembers the capitalization of the first time it sees a word.  It usually doesn't affect Master, but if the game first saw something like "keep practicing to master that skill", then "master" will appear in lowercase.  Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to clear the game's memory of these things.  Depending on your preferences, you might use a different male title like Lord, Captain, or Daddy.

[lovalter]

15 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

That's a Skyrim thing.  The game remembers the capitalization of the first time it sees a word.  It usually doesn't affect Master, but if the game first saw something like "keep practicing to master that skill", then "master" will appear in lowercase.  Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to clear the game's memory of these things.  Depending on your preferences, you might use a different male title like Lord, Captain, or Daddy.

Damn  Changing the title breaks DBVO unfortunately

[Vyru]

Me again... sorry for being annoying 🤐 The Lola kneeling animation seems to trigger the Fill Her Up Baka Edition cum release animation for me like 9 out of 10 times (probably unless the PC is completely empty) it's not that big of a deal just a little bit annoying. Is this a known problem with some easy fix? If not i can live with it it's not game breaking or anything...

[Hex Bolt]

55 minutes ago, Vyru said:

Is this a known problem with some easy fix?

That's not a known problem.  SLTR uses one of three specific kneeling animations (one from ZAP, one from DD, one from GS Poses).  If another mod replaces one of those animations, it's a conflict beyond this mod's control.  You might try an alternate kneel pose.  Another conceivable cause might be the HighHeelsOff() functionality borrowed from SexLab that works with NiOverride to temporarily remove any high heels effect during kneeling, but that's been doing its job well so it's not something that I'm likely to change.  Kneeling in this mod also optionally unequips arrows and player-specified armor slots, another unlikely but possible source of conflict.

[Vyru]

13 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

SLTR uses one of three specific kneeling animations (one from ZAP, one from DD, one from GS Poses).

Not sure whch one it is for me as i have all of them installed, it's a rather simple one hands behind the back.

13 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

If another mod replaces one of those animations, it's a conflict beyond this mod's control.

That's what confuses me, none of the Fill Her Up poses are the exact same, it's just... PC is kneeling as usual and after a second it gets interrupted by the Fill Her Up animation... it was funny the first couple times to be honest 😆

13 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

You might try an alternate kneel pose.

Gonna give it a try and if that doesn't fix it i'll try to change some settings in the Fill Her Up MCM. Thanks ~

Edited April 27, 2025 by Vyru

[alternateaccounts]

MCM won't start for me on the latest version

[Hex Bolt]

8 minutes ago, alternateaccounts said:

MCM won't start for me on the latest version

See here for a list of possible remedies.

[alternateaccounts]

41 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

See here for a list of possible remedies.

Thanks for the help.
I'm in the process of a fresh install and only now learning about all the recent changes like everything being NG and needing DD NG.
I disabled Sexlab Utility Mod, Nethers Follower Framework, and DD Equip AE, started a new game. And it showed up.

[Hex Bolt]

7 minutes ago, alternateaccounts said:

Thanks for the help.
I'm in the process of a fresh install and only now learning about all the recent changes like everything being NG and needing DD NG.
I disabled Sexlab Utility Mod, Nethers Follower Framework, and DD Equip AE, started a new game. And it showed up.

I'm glad that you got it working.  For what it's worth, this mod does not require DD NG (just DD 5.2), and it works fine with NFF. 

[alternateaccounts]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

I'm glad that you got it working.  For what it's worth, this mod does not require DD NG (just DD 5.2), and it works fine with NFF. 

Yeah I've been using your mod for years, I know it's very light on dependencies.
I tried using dd 5.2 at first but it wouldnt even launch with the .dll

Thanks for being such a pillar of the community.

[shiagwen]

Hello Hex,

 i dont get the custom collar to work, not even to rewrite meshes, and there is no example for custom cuffs.  Could you please add zbfCollarIronBlack to your list ? it is the plain iron collar, like the one from hentai creatures. it is a zaz item, but i is also in heretic and so should be in ddheretic files. and maybe zbfcuffsblackiron or/and zbfwristsblackiron and zbfankleblackiron.   you re professional in doing these things and know how to do this in a minute, so please do so. Would be nice. 

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, shiagwen said:

i dont get the custom collar to work, not even to rewrite meshes, and there is no example for custom cuffs.  Could you please add zbfCollarIronBlack to your list ?

I don't want to mix ZAP items with DD items in the list, but it's not hard to set up a custom collar.  You just have to be careful to keep the exact file names.

 

Copy CollarIronFemale_0.nif (or CollarIronMale_0.nif) from ZAP into Data\Meshes\Devious\Lola.  Replace both of the files CustomCollar_1.nif and CustomCollar_0.nif with the ZAP collar mesh (make two copies of the ZAP mesh and rename them to CustomCollar_X.nif).  There is no example for custom cuffs because that's not supported.

[shizachan]

Is it possible to exempt the owner from stripping, crawling and equipping bondage during Naked Defeat scenes?

 

The mod author of ND doesn't seem interested in fixing it, but it's super immersion breaking to see the owner looking so pathetic lol

[Hex Bolt]

11 minutes ago, shizachan said:

Is it possible to exempt the owner from stripping, crawling and equipping bondage during Naked Defeat scenes?

 

The mod author of ND doesn't seem interested in fixing it, but it's super immersion breaking to see the owner looking so pathetic lol

This mod is not aware of Naked Defeat or anything that it does, so that just wouldn't be practical.  As you surmised, the responsibility for handling that would be in that mod.  SLTR does readily make available to other mods which followers are the owner and playmate so, as an example, Follower Slavery Mod exempts the owner from being abducted.  If Naked Defeat has no interest in doing that, perhaps it might consider a generic "exempt this follower" button, but it would be up to that mod to do it.