Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[warden239]

can I suggest something,  can we have it so that we can choose what kind of master/slave relationship we have, like owner and pet where were forced to eat of the ground play fetch and go out on walks where npc comment on us

[Hex Bolt]

9 minutes ago, warden239 said:

can we have it so that we can choose what kind of master/slave relationship we have, like owner and pet where were forced to eat of the ground play fetch and go out on walks where npc comment on us

Submissive Lola is primarily about sex and nudity, with some use of bondage devices.  Although it has some optional non-consensual elements, it's fundamentally about a consensual master-slave relationship.  Being compelled to eat off of the ground would be a departure from sex & nudity, and although this sort of humiliation will no doubt appeal to a few submissive personalities, it's more likely to be a turn-off for most, causing the slave to end the enslavement.  It really doesn't fit the rest of the content, which is about making the slave a sex object.

 

The Parade event does have the slave go on walks around a city for all to see.  If you're more interested in crawling, I think TekknoTim's add-on offers pet play.

 

If your preference is for non-consensual slavery, you might look at Sanguine's Debauchery.

[Hex Bolt]

@Delite, on the SS++ support topic, you asked, "What should I do after an auction? Where is the character's owner? I have only Submissive Lola checked in MCM menu."

 

Which version of Submissive Lola: The Resubmission are you using?  The most recent version has a fix for an unusual problem that sometimes occurred for some players, in which the auction buyer would be selected and recruited as a follower wouldn't appear.

 

What status is shown in the SLTR MCM in the top left?  Or, does it still say "Start Quest"?

 

If you're using a follower framework, has a new follower been added?  Leaving the slave market might cause the buyer to be teleported to you and begin the force greeting for the enslavement talk.

[Delite]

16 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Which version of Submissive Lola: The Resubmission are you using? 

Version 2.1.0

Simple Slavery's version is 6.3.18

 

16 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

What status is shown in the SLTR MCM in the top left? 

"Strong Hand quest is active"

 

16 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

If you're using a follower framework, has a new follower been added? 

No, there is no follower.

I use Nether's Follower Framework v2.8.3b.

 

16 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Leaving the slave market might cause the buyer to be teleported to you

Nobody teleported to my character.

Also, when I try to load the save in which my character stands outside of the slave market, the game crashes. I don't know if this is caused by any of your two mods, but maybe this is important.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Delite

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, Delite said:

Version 2.1.0

The current version, 2.1.1, has the fix for non-teleporting followers.  However, that might be moot because...

 

2 hours ago, Delite said:

No, there is no follower.  I use Nether's Follower Framework v2.8.3b.

Just to be certain, if you check the Follower Stats page in NFF's MCM, is a new follower listed?

 

If not, that suggests that either recruiting that NPC failed (not a valid follower, or a follower with an incompatible custom AI like Serana) or that you did not have a buyer selected in this mod's MCM.  Whom did you select to be the auction buyer?

 

This mod will display a message if something didn't work, such as no buyer selected or unable to recruit the follower.  Did you see anything like that after the auction?

 

2 hours ago, Delite said:

"Strong Hand quest is active"

If you run "GetStage vkjStrongHand" in the console, what is the stage number?

 

2 hours ago, Delite said:

when I try to load the save in which my character stands outside of the slave market, the game crashes. I don't know if this is caused by any of your two mods, but maybe this is important.

This mod shouldn't directly cause a crash, but crashes can occur for various reasons.  You might check your save with a save cleaner, and/or enable Papyrus logging, load the save, then check the log after the crash.  The last part of the log should indicate what was happening then.

[Abr1]

Hi. Another perverse sentence.

About the nudity rule. You can add a new rule, conventionally called “Progressive nudity". The point is to gradually accustom Lola to nudity, and not to “teach swimming” by throwing her out of the boat.

It might look like this (still 50 points of submission):

Spoiler

Master (starts a dialogue): “Discipline, humiliation and nudity are the pillars on which slavery is based. That's exactly what I'm going to teach you. You are making progress in submission and have learned to endure public humiliation and now it's time for nudity to take its rightful place in your life, slave.”

“Many masters do not care about their slaves and simply tear off their clothes, pushing them naked into a crowd, leaving them alone with their experiences, which they do not care about, but I am not such a Master, I will help you gradually get used to nudity, I will lead you holding my strong hand through these trials and experiences, as you asked me at the very beginning, when you submitted to me.”

Lola (nervous): “Um.. Master, what does this mean?”

Master: “This means that I think you are ready and I will gradually teach you to be naked in front of strangers. We'll start small and in the end I expect you to become calm about the complete absence of any clothes on you surrounded by any number of people in any place, wherever we go. I'm going to make nudity become an integral and desirable part of your life.”

Lola: “Is it really necessary, Master?”

Master: “The fact that you ask this once again proves that it is necessary, without this you cannot be fully called a slave.

Lola: ”Thank you Master, I understand what this slave has to do?”

Master: “As I said before, we'll start small. Therefore, your first task will be to stay naked while we are at home. So far, without prying eyes.”

 

After visiting the house and fulfilling the requirement, the owner will want Lola to be naked in a deserted place outside the house, in some clearing in the game. Next, the Owner decides that it's time to add “witnesses” and orders Lola to go to the hot springs, where hunters usually rest and relax there being completely naked. Then the Owner will want to increase the number of witnesses and order Lola to walk naked along the road from a small village to the city (for example, from Riverwood to Whiterun or from Rorikstead to Markarth), meeting travelers and, possibly, caravans of Khajiit along the way. Then the Owner decides that it's time for a long stay of naked Lola among a large number of people and orders to rent a room in a tavern, where he will relax forcing Lola to dance and run from the rented room for a drink through the crowd of visitors. And then the Owner will consider that Lola is used enough and will apply the usual rule of being naked in safe places, eventually the Owner will order Lola to stay naked always. This can be done by a separate chain of quests, or alternately, in ascending order, apply the already existing rules of nudity after some interval in game days.

As it has already been written here, people want to be able to leave Lola naked forever if Lola decides to remain a slave for the rest of her life. I think people should have this opportunity)).

This can be done through a series of quests where Lola asks the Owner to cancel the rules of mandatory nudity, justifying this by saying that fighting naked in dungeons is not a very good idea, for example, after completing the “Tomb Rider" quest.

 

For example:

Spoiler

Lola: “Will you reconsider an order that you gave me?”

Master: “What do you want to ask about?”

Lola: “May I wear clothes in those forbidden areas?”

Master: “No. I like seeing you the way you are. Slaves look better naked”

Lola: “But please Master, we almost got into trouble in the last dungeon, can I wear armor when we are in dangerous places?”

Master: “Yes, it was difficult last time, but I still don't want to allow you to wear armor or clothes, you are a slave for pleasure, and allow slaves for the pleasure of wearing clothes is like coming to a museum to look at curtained paintings, it's absurd and no pleasure! But I'll figure something out with this problem, and in the meantime we'll sell the loot in the city, let's go slave.”

 

After that, in the next dungeon, at the entrance, the Owner will turn to Lola and say that he worked on solving the problem and bought enchanted shackles (without chains) for wrists and ankles in the city and that this should help and that Lola should wear them, at least in the dungeons.  (here you will have to make items from DD with useful enchantments.)

After passing the next dungeon, or immediately after putting on the shackles, Lola can again turn to the Owner and again ask for permission to wear armor.

 

For example:

Spoiler

Lola: “Master, these enchanted limiters helped a little, but it's still very difficult to fight when you're naked, please allow me to wear armor...”

Master: “Yes, they were supposed to help, besides, you look like a real slave in them, I like it, and I'm going to make you wear them all the time, but I don't like that you become annoying. I said you'd stay naked.

”Interestingly, the wandering priestesses of Dibella often make their journeys completely naked, for sure they use some kind of magic to protect themselves. It's decided. Go to the temple of Dibella in Markarth and find out from the priestesses how they ensure their safety on the way.”

Lola should come to the temple of Dibella and ask Senna:

Lola (refers to Senna): “Mistress, my Master..”

Senna: “Mistress? And you're... naked, oh, right, you're a slave, aren't you? Like in the ancient Nordic legend about the shieldmaiden Lola?”

Lola: “Yes, Mistress.”

Senna: “You know it's not just a legend, it was real. There are records of this case here in the temple of Dibella. That ancient Lola and her Master came here to the temple, just like you are now, so that Lola would take an oath of “Eternal Servitude” to her Master, and it was because of this oath that Lola was tied to the Master and waited for him in Sovngard after she died protecting her Master. So are you going to swear an oath to your Master too?”

Lola: “I.. don't...”

Master: “It would be a good idea, you would be with me until the end of the existence of this world, would you like this slave?”

Here you can do that Lola agrees and gets a permanent buff “Eternal Servitude”, which increases resistance to the elements, or refuses and loses 20 points of submission.

In the case of swearing an oath, Lola kneels in front of Dibella's shrine and presses it, and at that moment buff hangs himself.

After that, Lola continues the conversation with Sena:

Lola: “Mistress, we actually came here to find out how the wandering priestesses of  Dibella protect themselves during their travels between sanctuaries, because they do it naked. My Master wants me to stay naked all the time, even during adventures in the dungeons, and I am afraid that I will let my Master down being insufficiently protected.”

Senna: “Wandering priestesses receive the blessing of Dibella before each journey, it is unlikely that you will be able to come here every time before going somewhere.”

Lola: “Mistress, but surely there is some way, maybe you need to wear Dibella's necklace or...”

Senna: “Actually, there is one oath in the records of the temple, but no one has ever taken it in the whole history. This is an oath of “Eternal Nakedness”, the one who brings it swears to remain naked forever, for which he receives the blessing of Dibella, which significantly increases his vitality and magic and their regeneration. But, as I have already said, no one has brought it yet, because it is one thing to remain naked while traveling between sanctuaries, and it is another thing to remain naked always without being able to wear anything, because the oath rewards the one who observes it, and punishes the one who violates it. The one who breaks the oath will rapidly lose vital energy and may eventually die. Do you really want to take this oath?”

Lola: “I do not know, Mistress, I need to consult with the Master...”

Lola (turns to the Owner): “Master...”

Master: “I heard everything, slave, you have to decide on your own whether to take this oath or not. Oaths made under duress will not work, even slave oaths, you should know this, the gods love voluntary service. Anyway, I'm going to keep you always naked, so it won't really matter, the enchanted collar you're wearing won't give you anything to wear anyway.”

Lola (turns to Senna): “It looks like I don't have a choice anyway, the owner is unyielding… I want to take this oath.”

Senna: “Very well, it will go down in history. Perhaps in centuries, descendants will add up legends about you, as they are now adding up about that first Lola. And yes, there is one more point. You said you wanted protection so as not to let your Master down in dungeons and battles, and you probably met ghosts in the depths of tombs?”

Lola: “Yes, Mistress, they looked like ordinary people, but disembodied and deadly...”

Senna: “As for how they looked, they were dressed the way they were dressed during life, in armor, but only ghostly, like themselves. But if you take an oath, your ghost, if it appears, will be as naked as you were in life. Even after death, you will serve your Master naked... forever...”

Lola: “It seems that this humiliation threatens to become eternal…And that I wouldn't have a choice anyway… I have already sworn an oath to serve the Master forever, and surely the Master will keep me naked even after death...”

Master: “Um.. I haven't thought about it, but it sounds like a good idea...”

Lola (turns to Senna): “It seems there is no difference, so at least I will get Dibella's blessing. I want to take an oath of “Eternal Nakedness””

Senna: “Well, you already know what to do and are already dressed appropriately...”

 

After that, Lola will always have to stay naked. And when visiting any city, a guard can approach Lola and say:

Spoiler

The guard: “Stop there! I thought they were laughing at me when other guards told me about a naked woman walking around the city, but it turns out it's true! It's strange why you weren't arrested then… In any case, public nudity is prohibited, get dressed immediately or you will get a fine, or you will be thrown into prison.”

Lola: “But, this can't be… I can't get dressed, I'm a slave, and my Master forbids me to wear any clothes, moreover, I swore an oath to Dibella, and I will simply die if I break the oath and wear anything...”

The guard: “A very strange story, you should contact the steward of the Jarl, maybe he can come up with something...”

 

And then you can come up with a huge story in terms of collecting permits in each hold, or the Jarl's steward will say that the only option to be naked without consequences is to become a real slave to his Master, and will offer to write out a certificate for Lola. And in another possession, for example, it will be decided to recognize Lola as an animal, and on this basis solve her problem, because no one dresses a cow or a goat, right? ))

I decided not to describe this part in detail, because I feel that I have already written a lot))

Edited July 18, 2023 by Abr1

[Hex Bolt]

51 minutes ago, Abr1 said:

Another perverse sentence.

Thank you for sharing.  You seem to have a lot of enthusiasm for this subject.  However, as a suggestion, when you have a large section of text, if you place it in a spoilers section (the eye icon on the formatting bar) that makes the page easier to browse.

 

1 hour ago, Abr1 said:

About the nudity rule. You can add a new rule, conventionally called “Progressive nudity". The point is to gradually accustom Lola to nudity, and not to “teach swimming” by throwing her out of the boat.

Progressive nudity is a possibility, but not everyone will want that (some even say that nudity just at home is too much), so it would only benefit some players.  Also, in regard to nudity itself, I believe that naked is naked.  If you want to look weak, you will be weak, and you'll experience the fears and difficulties of your character.  No buffs, no being "naked but not really".  A naked character should use the options Skyrim provides to try to survive, such as ranged attacks, but expect to be defeated often.  You're a naked slave.  If you're a shackled naked slave, you'll be nearly worthless in combat -- but you can carry things and provide sex, which is probably all the slave's owner expects.  If that sounds fun to a player, great, but the harsh reality might not live up to the dream.

 

1 hour ago, Abr1 said:

The guard: “Stop there! I thought they were laughing at me when other guards told me about a naked woman walking around the city

Punishment for public nudity can be fun, but it only makes sense when the person has free will.  I don't see why a guard would have a problem with a naked slave (especially if the slave is female and the guard is male, or vice versa).  Slaves are property; the same rules for public decency most likely don't apply.  However, if there is a problem, it's the responsibility of the slave's owner.  The owner would be fined or imprisoned.  Of course, the owner would know that, so a slave would only be naked in public if that is legal.

[Delite]

18 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

you did not have a buyer selected in this mod's MCM.  Whom did you select to be the auction buyer?

I selected no one. Seems like this is the reason then.

I started new game, my character was on her way to Riften right from the Alternate Start's prison cell.

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Delite said:

I selected no one. Seems like this is the reason then.

Yes, that's the reason.  Since there was no auction buyer, this message should have been displayed:  "You have been bought out of slavery.  Seek out your benefactor and ask for the strong hand and guidance that you need."  The Strong Hand was started for you, so you can still get a follower, submit normally, and assume that the follower bought you.

[Rhapsody39]

I'm looking to use this mod with Simple Slavery Plus Plus on a new save file. For convenience, is there a mod I can install that will let me select any follower I want so I can use them in the MCM for Simple Slavery Plus Plus with Submissive Lola? I've done several Google searches, but nothing has come up.

[garniu]

So does the remove plugs for sex actually work or is it just my game?  I tried the unlockable ones but they wont remove for sex I just need to know if it is my game or the mods fault

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, Rhapsody39 said:

I'm looking to use this mod with Simple Slavery Plus Plus on a new save file. For convenience, is there a mod I can install that will let me select any follower I want so I can use them in the MCM for Simple Slavery Plus Plus with Submissive Lola?

No, but if select you a couple of buyers through the MCM, you'll have a good template with SimpleSlaveryBuyers.json, which you can edit to use the reference ID and name of the follower(s) that you want.  Once you've set it up, the list will carry over to each new game.

 

1 hour ago, garniu said:

So does the remove plugs for sex actually work or is it just my game?

The last time I used it, it worked, though it should be redundant now with DD 5.2, which has its own plug removal.  For this mod's feature, only the plug that would be in the way is temporarily removed (an anal plug is ignored for vaginal sex).  Locking, inflatable, quest, or "block generic" plugs will also be ignored.  A chastity belt blocks plug removal.  Plugs must be devious devices and have the expected DD keywords (e.g., zad_DeviousPlugAnal).  The MCM setting (never, always, owner, lover) is a factor too.

[Dradknight]

hey, i may just be extremely dumb, but, i remember there being a voice pack for SLTR, but I can't for the life of me find it on main page. Anyone got any pointers?

[Rhapsody39]

3 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

No, but if select you a couple of buyers through the MCM, you'll have a good template with SimpleSlaveryBuyers.json, which you can edit to use the reference ID and name of the follower(s) that you want.  Once you've set it up, the list will carry over to each new game.

 

Thanks for replying, I'll try what you said next time I start a new game. I just had a couple of hours in Submissive Lola (I used a console command to get a follower) and it is a brilliant mod. I did notice a bug with Kalmah's Extension. Whenever a sex scene was supposed to play, I was teleported into the middle of nowhere with the Kalmah's Extension installed, but the issue went away when I started a new game with just the base mod.

Edited July 19, 2023 by Rhapsody39

[Dozen9292]

57 minutes ago, Dradknight said:

hey, i may just be extremely dumb, but, i remember there being a voice pack for SLTR, but I can't for the life of me find it on main page. Anyone got any pointers?

 

New delta update for Submissive Lola 2.1.1. Needs Executaball's orignal voice files to be complete.

lola_delta_new.rar

Edited July 19, 2023 by Dozen9292

[Dradknight]

52 minutes ago, Dozen9292 said:

 

New delta update for Submissive Lola 2.1.1. Needs Executaball's orignal voice files to be complete.

lola_delta_new.rar 927.29 MB · 2 downloads

Dibela bless ^^

[valcon767]

14 hours ago, Rhapsody39 said:

I'm looking to use this mod with Simple Slavery Plus Plus on a new save file. For convenience, is there a mod I can install that will let me select any follower I want so I can use them in the MCM for Simple Slavery Plus Plus with Submissive Lola? I've done several Google searches, but nothing has come up.

see Hexbolt8's reply first

there is a Skyrim LE/SE mod called "Are You There" that can be helpful.  use with caution (used wrong it can break quests).

it can add a mapmarker to any NPC. it can teleport any NPC to you.  it can teleport you to any NPC.

personally i use it for 2 things only - debugging (easier to use than having to look up REFids), and adding a SLTR potential buyer.

 

if you do use this my suggestion would be to make a hard save.

use "Are You There" to pull a follower NPC to you, use SLTR MCM to add them as a potential buyer.

quit to desktop (without saving).  lead hard save you made.

by quitting to desktop without saving you will have the follower NPCs in their regular locations, but also have them as SLTR potential buyers.

 

[CaptainJ03]

5 hours ago, Rhapsody39 said:

I did notice a bug with Kalmah's Extension.

Only one? That mod hasn't been updated in what? Two years? This mod has moved on quite a bit since then, DD went from v4 to v5.2 - if you really want to use Kalmah's extension, use with caution and prepare to have a buggy experience.

[alternateaccounts]

How can I change the animation tags and sexlab role? I have a male character and he always ends up in the dominant role in the animations.
Same with Nazeem, he ends up spanking the mistress.

Edited July 19, 2023 by alternateaccounts

[Abr1]

On 7/18/2023 at 1:36 AM, HexBolt8 said:

Progressive nudity is a possibility, but not everyone will want that (some even say that nudity just at home is too much), so it would only benefit some players.  Also, in regard to nudity itself, I believe that naked is naked.  If you want to look weak, you will be weak, and you'll experience the fears and difficulties of your character.  No buffs, no being "naked but not really".  A naked character should use the options Skyrim provides to try to survive, such as ranged attacks, but expect to be defeated often.  You're a naked slave.  If you're a shackled naked slave, you'll be nearly worthless in combat -- but you can carry things and provide sex, which is probably all the slave's owner expects.  If that sounds fun to a player, great, but the harsh reality might not live up to the dream.

For those players for whom even exposing the house is something unthinkable, there is already an option in the rules settings “Never”, but besides these people there is another type of players who want to be able to leave the character naked forever, and judging by how often such a proposal appears here, they are not so not enough. In any case, anyone who does not want such a development of events, he simply can not include these settings in the MCM.

 

On 7/18/2023 at 1:36 AM, HexBolt8 said:

Punishment for public nudity can be fun, but it only makes sense when the person has free will.  I don't see why a guard would have a problem with a naked slave (especially if the slave is female and the guard is male, or vice versa).  Slaves are property; the same rules for public decency most likely don't apply.  However, if there is a problem, it's the responsibility of the slave's owner.  The owner would be fined or imprisoned.  Of course, the owner would know that, so a slave would only be naked in public if that is legal.

On the one hand, this is true, but on the other hand, Lola is not a real slave, she just plays it, real slaves must have a certificate of ownership and a brand. On this basis, Lola is a legitimate subject before the law, and in order to avoid punishment, she will have to become a real slave, with all the circumstances that follow.

In any case, this is just a suggestion to add new content to the mod.

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, alternateaccounts said:

I have a male character and he always ends up in the dominant role in the animations.  Same with Nazeem, he ends up spanking the mistress.

This mod always places the owner, regardless of gender, in the dominant role in a SexLab animation.  That includes spanking.  However, you might have something that is swapping the roles after this mod assigns them.  Look over your SexLab settings for something that might affect this, and also check for any other installed mods that would affect sex animations.

[Lisette11]

I got the tomb raider mission, found a big treasure chest in a bandit camp, but  couldn't find an option that would allow me to present the things to my follower. Giving them via trading gear didn't work. Does it have to be a tomb?

[Hex Bolt]

18 minutes ago, Lisette11 said:

I got the tomb raider mission, found a big treasure chest in a bandit camp, but  couldn't find an option that would allow me to present the things to my follower.

See here.

[SpoiderMon]

I have a problem where regardless of how much loot I have, even if im only like 100/300 encumberance my follower keeps asking to return to town

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, SpoiderMon said:

I have a problem where regardless of how much loot I have, even if im only like 100/300 encumberance my follower keeps asking to return to town

More detail would be helpful.  That's not much description of what's happening.  Another reason for a forced return to town is that the owner is poor, so your encumbrance might not be relevant.