Why do governments ban pornography?

[Vyxenne]

On 9/22/2020 at 12:53 AM, gregathit said:

Tyranny, pure and simple.

Societal virtue-signalling.

[Guest]

Gov's ban because...power. They are the Piranhas of our kind. Ravenous, always hungry for more. The more we give, the more they take.

[KoolHndLuke]

15 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

Societal virtue-signalling.

Might change their tune when hot, sweaty sex is used as a negotiating tool to avert costly hostilities or something. Anybody can look at some uptight asshole and know they just need a good spanking and fuck. 

 

 

[steelpanther24]

This is not my personal opinion, but just a quick bit of research online.  My comments are in italics.

 

 

When porn was banned and why some is still banned in the US:

It is considered obscene (btw, the definition of obscene is NOT determined by the Gov't but by community standards...i.e. local communities). 

A work was obscene if it appealed to prurient interests, offended community standards, and had no social value. Prosecutors realized, however, that everything could be construed to have some social value. Thus the current standard, called the Miller test, now specifically singles out work that lacks any serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

 

 

 

Why India banned porn

1. Defend  innocent, susceptible, vulnerable: fighting for the fundamental rights of 75 percent Indians who are the “innocent, susceptible, vulnerable women and children”.

Ok, get the desire to reduce the amount of people forced into porn by reducing the market reach (you have to break the law to get it)......except......the  internet...so..........
2. Porn is moral cancer: pornography “is like moral cancer that is eating our entire society at every second across country”.

If a society is being ruined by porn then......  at least they will have a well toned right arm (or left arm if a leftie) to fight for food once society breaks down.
3. The ‘worst killer’: According to India, porn is a “plague” which hampers people’s peace of mind, health and wellness, and puts their happiness and human potential at risk.

There is something to do this, as porn exposure to younger people could (stress could) have a negative effect upon that person, or it could just mean they won't think about sex the same way a generation did before them.
4. Worse than AIDS or Hitler, Porn is a slow killer: “Nothing can more efficiently destroy a person, fizzle their mind, evaporate their future, eliminate their potential or destroy society like pornography,” says the petition. “It is worse than Hitler, worse than AIDS, cancer or any other epidemic. It is more catastrophic than nuclear holocaust...”

Ummm.....ok  well...    I think I will leave this one alone and back away slowly.  Maybe someone should offer tours of Dachau to Indian politicians.

5. Real sex doesn’t ‘measure up’: India contends that people who watch porn struggle to emulate it in their actual sex lives — only to fail.

See, this is the danger of amateur porn!  Leave it to the professionals, and if you want the  job done right, hire a professional...In India, most prostitution is legal.

6. Annoying pop-up ads: India thinks that a big reason for  overwhelming concern against pornography is the “display of advertisement of pornographic websites without the permission of the viewer”. Interestingly, these could prove embarrassing in certain gatherings.”

OK  totally agree.  Not with the could be embarrassing, but annoying pop up ads.   We should ban any activity that is advertised via pop up ads.

7. Not an attack on freedom of expression: According to India, making porn illegal and enforcing a total ban “is not a very serious attack on the freedom of speech and expression”. India  argues that since porn is “neither speech nor expression”, but “purely a conduct”, it is an anti-societal pursuit.

Of course this won't have unintended consequences (Conduct does not equal speech or expression)

8. Mental images can never be erased: End of argument.

If that were the case, then education would be nothing but a bunch of images.  

 

Note:   The above statements of why India banned porn came from a politicians platform, so ........  no matter what country you are in, a politician will never ever use science or logic (no matter the political leaning). 

 

 

[Onionstarz]

India-It must be porn not a our "Society" that lets people live in shit as they have no plumbing while they spend money on space ships.

[Zor2k13]

Porn is used as a weapon on an opposing country society just look at what countries ban it and then have a hand in spreading it around in other countries. Also asian countries don't want the current year western garbage influence flooding into their societies. The statements from putin recently are clear as day about what is going on right now in the world. The western world is collapsing and it is trying to get russia and china to play along but they both refuse. China as always tries to side step and save face while russia just says not only no but HELL NO. For russia specifically it is about ukraine and for china it is about everything including taiwan.

 

Communist govts don't like porn in their societies because they are control freaks and think they can control everything and everyone. Capitalists use porn as a lever of influence and as a political weapon as well as make money with it.

 

Just remember this one thing when you have a question about this sort of thing, for ten thousand years politicians have run on this one single slogan... vote for me and I will get the one that did this to you! 

 

This is why the passions of man never change and why humanity never changes, why politicians are just as corrupt now as they were ten thousand years ago that we know of. Life is a circle not a straight line so every day is just more of the same.

[BAB PEEG]

Cuts into their bottom line.

[worik]

On 12/29/2021 at 11:35 PM, steelpanther24 said:

This is not my personal opinion, but just a quick bit of research online

? That's an interesting chart.

[Guest]

Well, this seems a lively discussion.

In general the more conservative a state is, the more restrictive the laws will be. Or if a state is more nationalistic or autocratic the same result.

 

From a government perspective it wants people to follow certain rules. And also promote children or birth of them. Porn is the opposite of that.

Though i still think that if one looks for porn it will find it.

The last i seen on the telly was that in China porn is banned and since the internet is controlled by the state it is quite hard to acquire it. And if you do and get caught probably has harsh consequences.

Plus, if society is more prude such measures are easier to be enforced within. Meaning the enforcement is accepted.

 

Governments do not just ban certain behaviors. They do that because they want society to function in a certain way.

 

@steelpanther24 I think point 8 reminds me off you can not unseen things. Once you seen something, it stays with you. Whatever it is. People that seen war, never forget what war actually is.

 

[donttouchmethere]

They are all busy modding their Skyrim and have no time for porn.

And if there is one thing governments don't like it's if everyone has fun while they have to work (on their LO).

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

They are all busy modding their Skyrim and have no time for porn.

And if there is one thing governments don't like it's if everyone has fun while they have to work (on their LO).

And using only G rated mods, I'm sure! ?

 

Porn is one of those individual choice things. Not for me, but I honestly do not care if someone enjoys it. In general, it's pictures or video. Even "violent" or "rape" porn... as long as it IS acting, done between consenting adults and the guy with the cell phone camera, so what. Change the channel. We have porn ads here on LL. I really don't want to see them, so scroll my screen so I don't... FIXED!

 

As usual, when governments get involved, BANNING something, doesn't stop it. Just sends it underground, and perhaps creates a level of rebelious curiosity that drives some to it. 

 

Basically, I personally don't care until someone looses an eye... which probably won't happen... unless there is a facial involved and the shooter has some toxic stuff that melts eyes...

[donttouchmethere]

5 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

And using only G rated mods, I'm sure! ?

G rated or Goverment rated mods are the best! They have all the secret alien sex mods (mostly anal) we simple users without access to the X files will never see.

 

[Psalam]

12 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

We have porn ads here on LL. I really don't want to see them, so scroll my screen so I don't... FIXED!

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[Guest]

9 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

And using only G rated mods, I'm sure! ?

 

Porn is one of those individual choice things. Not for me, but I honestly do not care if someone enjoys it. In general, it's pictures or video. Even "violent" or "rape" porn... as long as it IS acting, done between consenting adults and the guy with the cell phone camera, so what. Change the channel. We have porn ads here on LL. I really don't want to see them, so scroll my screen so I don't... FIXED!

 

As usual, when governments get involved, BANNING something, doesn't stop it. Just sends it underground, and perhaps creates a level of rebelious curiosity that drives some to it. 

My impression is that porn got meaner. In the day i grew up, pron was silly, cliche.
Today you see more violence, rape. Less joyful. Perhaps it is a sign of the times.

 

9 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

Basically, I personally don't care until someone looses an eye... which probably won't happen... unless there is a facial involved and the shooter has some toxic stuff that melts eyes...

Sex with the Alien. Though the thought of it makes me freeze.?

 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

G rated or Goverment rated mods are the best! They have all the secret alien sex mods (mostly anal) we simple users without access to the X files will never see.

 

Ah, area69 i presume. ?

[donttouchmethere]

8 minutes ago, wutpickel said:

Ah, area69 i presume. ?

You must be one of the few survivors to tell the tale!

Risky to expose yourself like that.

(do you brought any mods with you from there? for science of course, only curious. I would never...)

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

You must be one of the few survivors to tell the tale!

Risky to expose yourself like that.

(do you brought any mods with you from there? for science of course, only curious. I would never...)

Well, everyone talks about Area 51 but the real secret location is Area 69 where all the sex test happen.

I escaped just narrowly. Sheer luck. But i have to hide my identity. Because i may not exist if they would find me. ?

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, wutpickel said:

My impression is that porn got meaner. In the day i grew up, pron was silly, cliche.
Today you see more violence, rape. Less joyful. Perhaps it is a sign of the times.

Perhaps, but to me, as long as it is "just acting", and not actual rape being taped and distributed, I can't say it must be banned... I simply turn the channel.

16 minutes ago, wutpickel said:

I escaped just narrowly. Sheer luck. But i have to hide my identity. Because i may not exist if they would find me. ?

Or is that what "They" want you to believe?????????

 

Matrix anyone???

[Guest]

51 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

Perhaps, but to me, as long as it is "just acting", and not actual rape being taped and distributed, I can't say it must be banned... I simply turn the channel.

I have no TV channels. Only zee internet. But i do not watch porn actually. Its soo flat.

 

51 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

Or is that what "They" want you to believe?????????

 

Matrix anyone???

I want to believe. ?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, wutpickel said:

I have no TV channels. Only zee internet. But i do not watch porn actually. Its soo flat.

"Turn the channel" is merely an expression to say a person has many options to not watch porn of any kind if they choose... or to watch if they choose. ))) My issue is that governments banning anything which does not kill a person (the extreme) or kill another person, is taking away that freedom to choose to turn the channel and that it is now playing the role of everyone's mommy. I have a mommy, who molded me and my values (as best she could... I'm not the best chunk of clay to be sure) and I do not require a government to be my surrogate mommy. Are there people who NEED a government mommy? Probably yes, but most do not.

1 hour ago, wutpickel said:

I want to believe. ?

 

[ayushiest]

Because it’s free speech. That’s why we have the constitution. If you don’t like it, don’t watch.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, LadySmoks said:

"Turn the channel" is merely an expression to say a person has many options to not watch porn of any kind if they choose... or to watch if they choose. ))) My issue is that governments banning anything which does not kill a person (the extreme) or kill another person, is taking away that freedom to choose to turn the channel and that it is now playing the role of everyone's mommy. I have a mommy, who molded me and my values (as best she could... I'm not the best chunk of clay to be sure) and I do not require a government to be my surrogate mommy. Are there people who NEED a government mommy? Probably yes, but most do not.

That is, of course, very true.

Self responsibility. I am not advocating bans, just observing how it appeared to me. From my faint memories to today. Of course i could be wrong. I had a pretty good childhood.

 

Spoiler

 

This was my show. I miss this time so much.

Kind of always wanted to visit the Alien Highway. Never did. Maybe when i retire?

[Guest]

One of those things about governments banning, just about anything, is it sometimes backfires, and simply makes money flow to the wrong people, or binds people closer to what is being banned. Prohibition in the US, way back machine time, and (although discussions of such are banned on LL for good reason, but I only use example of backfiring) religion in SU. Many feel it became stronger in the shadows, to where it now has some levels of influence over the government.

 

Of course, as a mom, I simply look at my son and know that if I tell him NOT to do something, there is a horrifyingly good chance that all I can do 10 mins later is say, "Told you so!" My husband believes in "that which does not kill you..." But he also has a few scars!

[Lyman the Lunatic]

Okay, I'll bite.
It's a simple tactic used in business & politics for a few thousand yrs or. Do something that makes you look like you're working with the most impact while spending the least money. Blaming porn is 1 such thing. The politicians look like they are doing something & spends the least money or no money at all. Many religion blames porn because lust is bad, modern feminism says it's demeaning to women (then the radical American feminists say it's empowering? I don't understand first world problem sometimes).
Basically
Politician: Porn bad
Religious & feminist: Oh my god(s) this politician is right!
Yes, this politician could be tackling some serious issues like soaring prices of fuel, fixing roads & stuff. But that means spending a lot of money & chances are, these expensive projects will be finished by the time the politician got voted out & whoever came later got all the credit. They can't have that. Since this is a modding site. Imagine you make a mod & someone stole it & upload your mod on another site & claim the mod to be theirs. Are you okay with that?

[donttouchmethere]

12 hours ago, wutpickel said:

have no TV channels. Only zee internet

Same here. I can't stand the advertising and often it's all too shallow. Still, if I watch TV anywhere I'm hypnotised right away.

 

12 hours ago, wutpickel said:

But i do not watch porn actually. Its soo flat.

 If it has a story it's always better! For tha mood.

 

12 hours ago, wutpickel said:

want to believe

me too lol

 

13 hours ago, wutpickel said:

My impression is that porn got meaner. In the day i grew up, pron was silly, cliche.

There is just more of everything, so you find more of everything. Silly porn is still alive and well lol