Why do governments ban pornography?

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

Because MUH MORALS!!!11!1 and MUH POWER!!1!1

 

also because they're SToo00opid.

 

They think they can just ban something that is readily available on the internet, in a time with VPNs and shit, where you can just change your IP location to another country entirely where there is no ban. ?‍♂️ Shit, even a place like North Korea can't keep stuff out 100% and they will do some fucked up shit to you if you get caught with it not to mention caught peddling the shit (though over there it's not just stuff like porn but mainly videos showcasing the world outside NK, from what I've heard via defectors).

[Someone92]

20 hours ago, Fakenet said:

Those ideas mostly come from super uptight and dryed-up old men who really have no sexuality left to speak of.

I think those men are at mostly just the performing agent.

If you look at who is demanding porn, nudity and in general "sexy women" to disappear it is mostly older women who are no longer young and thus attractive. E.g. the ones that got the bikini part of beauty contests removed were old(er) women (too old to participate themselves anymore).

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

Because MUH MORALS!!!11!1 and MUH POWER!!1!1

 

also because they're SToo00opid.

 

They think they can just ban something that is readily available on the internet, in a time with VPNs and shit, where you can just change your IP location to another country entirely where there is no ban. ?‍♂️ Shit, even a place like North Korea can't keep stuff out 100% and they will do some fucked up shit to you if you get caught with it not to mention caught peddling the shit (though over there it's not just stuff like porn but mainly videos showcasing the world outside NK, from what I've heard via defectors).

Just to add to what you said, I think I read somewhere that possession of porn in North Korea is punished by death. Yes, death for watching some people having sex.

I can't think of any logic for this

[Darkpig]

23 minutes ago, asenasen said:

Just to add to what you said, I think I read somewhere that possession of porn in North Korea is punished by death. Yes, death for watching some people having sex.

I can't think of any logic for this

I remember hearing Kim Jong-un is a pot head.

[Fakenet]

4 hours ago, Someone92 said:

I think those men are at mostly just the performing agent.

If you look at who is demanding porn, nudity and in general "sexy women" to disappear it is mostly older women who are no longer young and thus attractive. E.g. the ones that got the bikini part of beauty contests removed were old(er) women (too old to participate themselves anymore).

That logic is sound.

I just went with whoever is usually in charge but then again they only do what they think people want. Too bad they only listen to the 2% that stir up shitstorms on social media.

[lovedice]

Everything is a matter of control. Full control of all activities of the individual is virtually the goal of all governments.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

5 hours ago, Darkpig said:

I remember hearing Kim Jong-un is a pot head.

Lol.. somehow that wouldn't surprise me. I heard his dad really had a thing for Hennessy Cognac and had it secretly brought in by the shipping crate.

Edited October 9, 2021 by Z0mBieP00Nani

[Resdayn]

Religion

[worik]

13 minutes ago, Resdayn said:

Religion

? I wouldn't go so far to say that any government would believe in something any religion tells.

Spoiler

It's more like a tool for them to create a PR image AS IF they would actually have an altruistic value system.

So, the more they tell, the less they have.

Art, music, porn, whatever, their are just arbitrary fields to play their PR game.

[Swiftstep]

Why the ban? Obviously, because their cultural heritage is differnt from yours / ours.

One should not eagerly judge what one does not comprehend.

One can not like fragments of a culture, while condemning the rest. One should accept ones unimportance - and the unimportance of everything we hold dear and define as the foundation of our civilisation. When the majority of the planets population bans porn, what does it say about you not understanding them?

[Varithina]

On 7/25/2020 at 7:44 PM, 27X said:

Yes.

 

Validated and certified proof please, otherwise it is maybe.

[27X]

3 hours ago, Varithina said:

 

Validated and certified proof please, otherwise it is maybe.

 

it is not maybe.

 

It is yes, period; and has been proven not by  slice of population studies but by Nordic countries instituting programs using said methods over the last thirty years.

 

I also could not care less about your opinion when I can care about facts, thus bypassing your completely subjective opinion having any impact on my point of view or conclusions.

[Varithina]

2 hours ago, 27X said:

 

it is not maybe.

 

It is yes, period; and has been proven not by  slice of population studies but by Nordic countries instituting programs using said methods over the last thirty years.

 

I also could not care less about your opinion when I can care about facts, thus bypassing your completely subjective opinion having any impact on my point of view or conclusions.

 

Unless backed up with facts, web site etc, your stated comment was an opinion nothing more, as for giving a damn about your view I do not care.

[Guest]

Korea is a, from my impression and working with Koreans, a more conservative country with rules and society that has certain traditions. Personally i did not off a ban but its seems not too uncommon through out the world.

 

Generally i am not sure if phonography is a blessing or a curse. The youth certainly draws for the most part the wrong conclusion and in the worst case, thats all the sex ed there is.

 

A place that is more conservative will surely have laws to bring people in line with what their teachings are. If the religious right could dictate in the US what people should do, you would probably have the same result.

This is my impression the least.

 

btw. it seems that you can consume porn in south Korea through the internet. The exception seems for minors below the age of 19.

You just can not own anything i form of a magazine etc..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region#South_Korea

 

Society makes choices and the mass has to live with that choice. I am sure that porn still exist there, just not open.

 

[Guest]

There is a counter argument in regards of liberty.

 

While more not western style societies ban porn, westerns mostly do.

But i find it true that while it is allowed here, that it is mainly to subdue people and concentrate on other things than politics.

That's why we have sports for the most part. Where in Rome the circus had the purpose to entertain the crowd and keep them quiet, so it happens in todays societies. It is also true that these venues are usually a valve to release steam as to extinguish revolt or unrest. 

 

 

[27X]

3 hours ago, Varithina said:

 

Unless backed up with facts, web site etc, your stated comment was an opinion nothing more, as for giving a damn about your view I do not care.

 Like I said it is backed up by facts, going back thirty years, which makes your opinion literally worthless on whether it "works" or not. There's no question to answer.

 

Do your own research. and then keep it to yourself.

[Jerry of the Rock]

Take my porn away and there WILL BE death and rape.

 

And you can quote me on that.

[Someone92]

6 hours ago, 27X said:

Like I said it is backed up by facts, going back thirty years, which makes your opinion literally worthless on whether it "works" or not. There's no question to answer.

It is true that in most countries we observe less rapes the more accepting porn becomes. However what is unclear is if the acceptance of porn causes this, or if the political, economic and social characteristics of a society that lead to a more tolerant stance towards porn also lead to less cases of rape.

One indicator that is might the latter rather than the former is that we can observe a steady decline of rape cases even before the late 90s / early 00s, meaning when internet made porn widely accessible. The main causes of less rape might be social stability and prosperity.

 

If we look at rapists' profiles, most of them fulfill these two criteria:

- A mental illness / dysfunction

- Being physically and / or sexually abused as a child

 

Over the past few decades we started to take mental issues far more serious, beating your children has become mostly unacceptable, and at least the sexual abuse of girls is taken serious. We also see that boys and men being victimized and female perpetrators start getting more attention, and we become slowly aware they make up roughly half the victims / perpetrators.

[Guest]

@Someone92 I am not sure what the causes of rape is. Some people just do not use proper ways to engage or have disfunction of sorts. Therefore i do not think that prosperity or education alone will fix that. Some just take it by force to get what they want.

As to female predator's, i have no knowledge about it. But i believe that is lesser than done than by men. This is of course "my" opinion and like i said, i haven't researched this topic.

 

Mental illness treatment got better in the US i'll guess. At least as long as you have insurance. These medications are really expensive and some do not have medication because of lag to access or facilities. This is especially true for rural areas. In a city like Los Angeles its better but that is not the norm.

[Papitas]

On 7/25/2020 at 10:33 AM, s.kirmish said:

South Korea has apparently banned pornography altogether with strict enforcement some years ago. I always wondered why countries do this,

 

Short answer:

Political charges, by their nature, are and have always been quite attractive for controlling freaks and literal psychopaths. 

 

Those are the only kind of guys that run governments or aspire to do so. 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Papitas

[Be3lzeBot]

On 10/4/2021 at 3:43 PM, axz2 said:

 

  The part about sex being legal for 16 year olds  isn't as opposite as you might think.  In shows and movies that address the issue at all (most don't) 18 is always treated as being the age of consent, but its only 18 in 11 out of 50 states.  Its just that its 18 in California, which is both the most populated state and the source of a lot of movies and shows in the US.  In 31 out of 50 states in the US (and all of the non-state parts of the US but one) the age of consent is 16.  (In the rest of the states its 17).

 

OTOH a number of European countries have 14 or 15 for the age of consent so there is still some difference.

I'm sorry, I don't how I missed your reply the last time I was here.

 

Thank you for your info. America is a big country.

[chimmy]

On 10/3/2021 at 6:13 PM, Be3lzeBot said:

I live in scandinavia. It's always been weird for me, to observe the american relationship towards alcohol+driverslicense+guns+sex.
Some of those rules are actually opposite where I'm from. For example; a [edit]16 year old is allowed to have sex, but not drive a car.
I've been looking at your weird American culture my whole life.

 

It is weird and backwards here, We send 18 year olds to war but they cannot legally have a beer!

Edited December 27, 2021 by chimmy

[tarl7]

On 10/9/2021 at 7:25 AM, lovedice said:

Everything is a matter of control. Full control of all activities of the individual is virtually the goal of all governments.

 

 

What he said. This is of course the reason Governments do anything.

Edited December 27, 2021 by tarl7

[Baltasarr80]

Long story short ... Power of Religion ... America, Germany England ... all the same ...

[HighwayDio]

Just to add my ten cents in, even tho some have already said it.

Governments don't care about their people or those around them. They care about control and doing what pleases them and the rich. They only care about the rich since they are the ones that back them up and they help them out.
If they can shift blame to something they will. They ban porn because its "Indecent", "Morally bad" and the usual "Its against God!", when in reality the things they do is so much more worse then what you do online.
Porn and sex are just like anything else, if it can be blamed for the failures of the Government and the people in power, then so be it. Just like how games and music are "apparently" the reason for violence, despite the fact that those who are doing said acts of violence, didn't do it because of any game or music.

As 27X stated and I'll add on to it. The more you take away and the more you oppress something, the more people are gonna want it. This works with anything, not just porn. Looking at statistics will show that countries that don't oppress porn and sex and let it be open have their crime rate for rape allot lower then the countries that are strict about it.

Taking it away WILL lead to more rape and other horrible situations, this is fact and history has proven it.

Sex is natural and is apart of nature. There is nothing wrong with someone wanting to partake in it, fool around or watch porn or play porn games. As long as the people involved are consenting and can understand the difference between reality and fiction, there is nothing wrong with sex or porn. The people in power just like having control and making the people who pay them happy. No other reason besides corruption and abuse of power, and a very closed, twisted mindset.