Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

15 minutes ago, Antaufein said:

 

The high heels given to the player by father after the party task is done are not high enough to be treated as high heels with the default value of 5 for me. I found that lowering the NiO value to 4.5 in both Wartimes and YPS MCMs worked. I like the idea of adding high heels as a fashion requirement, however, no high heels are included in Immersive fashion, which mean I can't get them from the vendors and have to get a separate high heels mod that is compatible with my body type. If anyone could point me to a good mod compatible with UUNP that uses NiOverride, I'd be grateful.

Theyre 5.2 in my game.

[Monoman1]

On 7/22/2021 at 3:48 AM, valeforgery said:

Scripted message boxes still refer to Mother as being in Whiterun's healing house, although the dialogue option when you find her in Dragonsreach always said that she was supposed to be in Cyrodiil (which is what Desvati and I went with in the dialogue edits, I believe, so I think all dialogue will now say that she's gone for healing "across the border in Cyrodiil" and that 2000 gold will send her to the Imperial City itself for treatment). There's also a repetitive dialogue sequence very early on, where

Got it I think.

On 7/22/2021 at 3:48 AM, valeforgery said:

The change to the meal/cooking task is really good. It adds a degree of uncertainty, and also incentivises actually increasing your skills. I did find that it rapidly accelerated the early stages of the quest, because it gives you way more opportunities to make mistakes and then to apologise. I think it meant I missed out on most of the "drool" events because of that. I was wondering if it was possible for there to be some sort of timer on those, either having it take a couple of days for Father to go from accepting that you're cooking to demanding that you cook well, or limiting the number of times you can lose favour for bad cooking in one day during the early stages. (I know I can do that by turning off the failure chance manually for the first few days, but I figured I'd mention it.)

I've added the condition massages >= 1

So you won't burn the dinner until then. 

On 7/22/2021 at 3:48 AM, valeforgery said:

This isn't specific to the new version, but it also seems like each option for relieving tension only works once, at least until you've gone through all of them, and he'll immediately demand the next stage up, which pushes you through those really quickly. I'm not sure whether that's as intended or not, because the apologies seem to be a more natural framework for that escalation - having the tension release options stop working immediately after doing them the first time means that the PC doesn't really have a chance to get accustomed to the increase in "intimacy" before the next stage is required.

That is as intended. Push your boundaries. 

I guess I can add a percentage chance to move onto the next stage....?

On 7/22/2021 at 3:48 AM, valeforgery said:

The last thing is just a minor tweak I made to the interior of the house. A couple of the floor pieces were misaligned, so I've moved them to join up edge-to-edge. I've also marked some of the items/containers as being owned by pchsFatherFaction (things that are in his room, and the coinpurse and sword on the table near the cooking spit) so that the PC can't sell them to just any vendor, and disabled one of the healing potions. The other healing potion is kind of hidden in Father's room, so I just marked that as being owned by him as well, but since the start of the story involves needing to earn money for healing potions I felt like having one openly on display seemed a bit weird.

Implemented. But I just deleted the potions/coin purses. You're supposed to be pretty much destitute starting off after all. 

[Executaball]

Updated voice pack is complete for Wartimes Tweak v5.6 by @Monoman1 and SE conversion by @Silvain
 

 

[jperrins66]

Just wanted to say a big thank you too those making and converting and adding too this mod, your work is appreciated, very much so.

[Monoman1]

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

Though I did not get to the point that I needed a new color.

Tip: Default time between hair changes in yps in 21 days....

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

Cumslut quest did not trigger - did I misremember and swallowing father's and aldo's cum does not trigger it anymore?

I'll have to check.

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

Sometimes the bottle plugs you get from the party guests are not removable.

The plugs side is something I've not looked at all. From past experience getting items to 'stick' is a bit of a PITA.

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

does not always show the tasks you get from father. Stuff like house quests show up realiably, but the "jobs" you get paid for don't.

Never even thought of the jobs.

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

My luck had it that the supply run started around 22h. With the curfew in place and not being able to buy the whore licence it was not doable.

Yup. I've had this as well. Could have sworn I had a time check but obviously...

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

STA and SLS while forced to be naked and doing the party quest caused the guests to flock around the player. Like they all stood around the toon trying to slap the devil out (or into) her. The amount of comments that fired and the body blocking were quite a sight. Maybe there was something wrong with my configuration but I haven't had it this... intense before.

Yep it can be. I think it's pretty appropriate. In fact I had planned a whole 'harassers' thing for SLS where you'd accumulate Npcs following you (while in town) and shit-talking/commenting on you, slapping you, cat calling you etc based on maybe what you're wearing or/and SLSF fame etc. 

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

The hood you get for the supply run does not have a blindfold effect (never had for me... but that may be due to my enb. Shoud it have one?)

I'm not sure that device was ever.... finished...

Honestly I don't really mind as I don't like the blindfold effect all that much. Main reason for selecting that hood was for the possibility of anonymous blowjobs.

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

PAH Stuff -> I don't use those.

Has anyone tried the PAH stuff? Haven't had any feedback on it afair. 

On 7/22/2021 at 1:43 AM, Silvain said:

Brutus stuff... I do not even know who brutus is supposed to be yet. ^^'

You haven't bought the horse yet?

Should fire fairly early as there's low requirements. 

[Vuzzar]

20 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Theyre 5.2 in my game.

Hmmm that is odd ? I don't know why it can change from person to person ?‍♂️

 

On 7/11/2021 at 7:35 AM, Monoman1 said:

Added a 'mirror' in your room so you can check your Immersive Fashion stats out and make sure you're in proper order for Father.

I can't find said mirror at the start of a new game. Does the fashion progress has to be started?

 

[Monoman1]

36 minutes ago, Antaufein said:

Hmmm that is odd ? I don't know why it can change from person to person ?‍♂️

Might be some difference between SE & LE or different versions of ZAP

37 minutes ago, Antaufein said:

Does the fashion progress has to be started?

Yep.

[Silvain]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Tip: Default time between hair changes in yps in 21 days....

Yeah I changed that to 3 days to match Wartimes. I just did not play enough days to get there

 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 

Yep it can be. I think it's pretty appropriate. In fact I had planned a whole 'harassers' thing for SLS where you'd accumulate Npcs following you (while in town) and shit-talking/commenting on you, slapping you, cat calling you etc based on maybe what you're wearing or/and SLSF fame etc. 

 

Nice, time to crank up the Masochist setting in STA

 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I'm not sure that device was ever.... finished...

Honestly I don't really mind as I don't like the blindfold effect all that much. Main reason for selecting that hood was for the possibility of anonymous blowjobs.

 

Alright, kinda thought so as well. There is this weird effect of lights getting slightly brighter with the hood which is why I thought something else should be happening. Sometimes there is this weird effect that DD Blindfolds turn everything bright instead of dark because certain enb image space modifier.

 

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

You haven't bought the horse yet?

Should fire fairly early as there's low requirements. 

 

Nope I did not. But it probably wasn't far off. I'm on a new game now, because of a weird bug that I needed to fix... For some ungodly reason everytime I entered a walled city the game applied an nighteye effect that I couldn't turn off as long as I was in the city... Sometimes Skyrim is weird.

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 since you asked about the PAH stuff, I have a question too. Does it work like any other job, meaning father orders you to enslave someone for his harem, or is the PC supposed to figure it out herself?

[Monoman1]

19 minutes ago, kapibar said:

@Monoman1 since you asked about the PAH stuff, I have a question too. Does it work like any other job, meaning father orders you to enslave someone for his harem, or is the PC supposed to figure it out herself?

Atm you sort of have to figure it out yourself. 

 

Once you go over 10 submission and you have an unassigned slave with you you should get another "Father?" Dialogue option. 

 

Once assigned you can speak to the slave and assign them to a task. You can also decide if they should perform their task immediately or wait until you're just about to fail the task (so they're more of a safety net than replacing you. You might do this if they've bad stats/untrained). 

 

They also need to be wearing a leash collar before they can be assigned. Leash collars are a bit on the difficult side to make (which is good)

2x iron ingots (easy)

Glow dust (rare)

Common filled soul gem (rare enough in my game)

 

There's not much interaction with the slaves as of yet other than random sex. I would like to see if I can give them certain behaviors based on their task. Probably Nothing too detailed just visual flavor really. 

Edited July 23, 2021 by Monoman1

[lcewolf]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Atm you sort of have to figure it out yourself. 

 

Once you go over 10 submission and you have an unassigned slave with you you should get another "Father?" Dialogue option. 

 

Once assigned you can speak to the slave and assign them to a task. You can also decide if they should perform their task immediately or wait until you're just about to fail the task (so they're more of a safety net than replacing you. You might do this if they've bad stats/untrained). 

 

They also need to be wearing a leash collar before they can be assigned. Leash collars are a bit on the difficult side to make (which is good)

2x iron ingots (easy)

Glow dust (rare)

Common filled soul gem (rare enough in my game)

 

There's not much interaction with the slaves as of yet other than random sex. I would like to see if I can give them certain behaviors based on their task. Probably Nothing too detailed just visual flavor really. 

 

Could you tell my when our pc is suppose to get to the stage with '' unassigned slave''? 

 

 

I restart the game so often nearly all the time   for testing it and found any bug i didn't get at this part yet.

 

[Samson Nite]

After pc get rope harness, collar, boot and pussy harness in, every time father make sex with daughter,

pc failed and father is getting angry. Her favorite score lost -10 or -5 at once. Then she is kicked out from home.

 

Is that the end of game? It is still serve the father quest.

If so, is there any cheat code to make her favorite score higher to stop her being kicked out?

Does it make sense or better to let her go and finish the game?

[Monoman1]

14 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

Could you tell my when our pc is suppose to get to the stage with '' unassigned slave''? 

You have >= 10 submission

And you have a PAH slave following you in the home that has not yet been assigned to father (That'll basically be any PAH slave you have)

14 minutes ago, Samson Nite said:

After pc get rope harness, collar, boot and pussy harness in, every time father make sex with daughter,

pc failed and father is getting angry. Her favorite score lost -10 or -5 at once. Then she is kicked out from home.

 

Is that the end of game? It is still serve the father quest.

If so, is there any cheat code to make her favorite score higher to stop her being kicked out?

Does it make sense or better to let her go and finish the game?

You're failing because you're failing to give him an SLSO orgasm I presume?

 

Early on you've got to think ahead a bit. If you can rustle up some stamina potions or at least have some stamina ingredients to hand. If you have skooma whore Father will drug you the second time you fail to give him an orgasm. So if you know that you now need to go and satisfy him you can ask him for skooma first  which will pretty much guarantee you'll succeed. Early on, taking skooma will grant you favour. When you become addicted though it'll cost you favour. But by then you should have other ways of gaining favour. 

 

Sometimes though SLSO can be a bit of a dickhead - you can get to 100% enjoyment and he still won't.... pop. I don't know what course of action you should take then.

 

To cheat you can simply

set pchsFatherVoluntaryServeRep to x

 

First time you're thrown out is not permanent (~ 4-7 days). Second time is permanent. But you can ask Father to forgive you which again allows you to be thrown out without it being permanent but it costs a lot of favour. 

[Samson Nite]

21 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

 

 

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You have >= 10 submission

And you have a PAH slave following you in the home that has not yet been assigned to father (That'll basically be any PAH slave you have)

You're failing because you're failing to give him an SLSO orgasm I presume?

 

Early on you've got to think ahead a bit. If you can rustle up some stamina potions or at least have some stamina ingredients to hand. If you have skooma whore Father will drug you the second time you fail to give him an orgasm. So if you know that you now need to go and satisfy him you can ask him for skooma first  which will pretty much guarantee you'll succeed. Early on, taking skooma will grant you favour. When you become addicted though it'll cost you favour. But by then you should have other ways of gaining favour. 

 

Sometimes though SLSO can be a bit of a dickhead - you can get to 100% enjoyment and he still won't.... pop. I don't know what course of action you should take then.

 

To cheat you can simply

set pchsFatherVoluntaryServeRep to x

 

First time you're thrown out is not permanent (~ 4-7 days). Second time is permanent. But you can ask Father to forgive you which again allows you to be thrown out without it being permanent but it costs a lot of favour. 

Thank you for your detail reply. But, sorry, I should still ask you 3 more questions:

 

1.I think I am not so good to understand SLSO orgasm. I have SLSO installed. Is there any control section that I should turn on or off in SLSO to give him higher orgasm? Any hint?

2. Stamina potion must be obtained before sex with him? Can I cheat by player.additem or not?

3. Skooma drug is good or bad to have before sex?

 

Sorry for too many stupid question.

 

[Monoman1]

9 minutes ago, Samson Nite said:

1.I think I am not so good to understand SLSO orgasm. I have SLSO installed. Is there any control section that I should turn on or off in SLSO to give him higher orgasm? Any hint?

There probably are settings that make it a little easier. I don't really tinker with SLSO all that much so I'm afraid I don't know. 

10 minutes ago, Samson Nite said:

2. Stamina potion must be obtained before sex with him? Can I cheat by player.additem or not?

3. Skooma drug is good or bad to have before sex?

You don't NEED a stamina potion. But they can help. 

 

Basically, the higher your stamina points and stamina regen then the easier time you'll have giving an orgasm. When your stamina hits zero and you click you still won't be providing enjoyment to him. Your stamina needs to be above ~10% minimum before you can give enjoyment. You can click but it'll do nothing. So like I said, if your stamina and regen is high enough then you can do it without any stamina potions. 

 

Arousal is another important factor and determines how much enjoyment he gains when you click. You can increase min arousal in wartimes menu and it should make things a bit easier. 

 

I use SLS which has 'sex experience' that grants higher stamina and regen during sex the more you've had sex with that race so it gets easier over time anyway. 

 

Skooma is usually good as it supercharges stamina regen. Unless you have some mod that changes skooma. 

[Samson Nite]

Got it. thank you very much!

 

By the way, I have found that something is very wrong with my SLSO monitor bars.

Usually the bar color changes and increases during sex. Now my 2 bars (One for PC one for opponent) are greyed out.

And it never changes even in climax. Can you help me what is wrong and how can make the bar operates as normal?

I should have checked some buttons......You advice would be very much appreciated. 

[Monoman1]

6 minutes ago, Samson Nite said:

Now my 2 bars (One for PC one for opponent) are greyed out.

I'm afraid I've never seen that. If you've changed settings in SLSO I'd start by changing them back and change them more gradually. It's not easy to understand SLSO settings IMO. Go slow. 

[Samson Nite]

I think I should check by starting from the beginning whether my initial setup was OK or not with SLSO, and find why it changed to grey.

 

In the mean time, could you tell me what are cheat codes to raise submission and mother nursing score? Thanks!

[lorddenorstrus]

I figured out why my saves were getting nuked.  That aside I've been able to test a lot of the new content and its great.  Parties sometimes have gotten odd but i think it's script lag when trying to talk to the party members.

 

Are PchsMIlkQuest,  PchsCumslutQuest and PchsWartimes2 (Soulgem factory) not enabled?  I have a mod forcing Lactacid in potions so I became a milkmaid relatively quick on the test but it never got mentioned.  And SGO obv from all the sex has had gems get birthed.  

 

That, oh and the mirror / pchs don't seem to recognize the professional done nails.  I tried those for longer duration and got disapproval for not having nails done.  But removing and swapping to lower duration worked fine.

 

Also when does mother come back?  The option to want her back "any means necessary" aka amputated cage.  Only shows the Crying conversation option (Which is no as a response)

[Iroha]

3 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

I figured out why my saves were getting nuked.  That aside I've been able to test a lot of the new content and its great.  Parties sometimes have gotten odd but i think it's script lag when trying to talk to the party members.

About your script lags,

Maybe you have problem similar to mine if you have Populated Lands and Roads baka-edition installed. I found that it can cause strange behavior with SLSurvival - save bloating with frozen script instances (which create permanent papyrus overload). Just for the info - that was found out with resaver. I dont remember script name already (it was something like "solitude entering script"), cause there is option in SLS that fixes it: "lockdown toll doors" (which sould be disabled if described problem occurs) under "Tolls, Eviction & Gates" mcm-page. But If you expirience script lags only in parties, and it doees not become permanent - than your reason is different, you sould look into papurus logs in this case for dumping stacks.

Edited July 24, 2021 by Iroha

[Iroha]

7 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

Got it. thank you very much!

 

By the way, I have found that something is very wrong with my SLSO monitor bars.

Usually the bar color changes and increases during sex. Now my 2 bars (One for PC one for opponent) are greyed out.

And it never changes even in climax. Can you help me what is wrong and how can make the bar operates as normal?

I should have checked some buttons......You advice would be very much appreciated. 

There is possibility that you "paused SLSO game" occasionally - there is a shift+KEY configurable in SLSO for that.

[Silvain]

9 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Sometimes though SLSO can be a bit of a dickhead - you can get to 100% enjoyment and he still won't.... pop. I don't know what course of action you should take then.

 

 

Yeah this sometimes happens when - I think - SLSO does not get the right animation tags. It decides if an actor can orgasm depending on the tags and not every animation is set up properly and sometimes SLSO just misreads it.

 

Personally I turn of male orgasm conditions (or something like that). It's one of the toggles in the upper left. So males can always orgasm as soon as they get the full bar.

[Monoman1]

8 hours ago, Samson Nite said:

In the mean time, could you tell me what are cheat codes to raise submission and mother nursing score? Thanks!

Set pchsPCSubmission to x

 

There are two variables for mothers health depending on whether she's caged at home or not

Set pchsMotherHealth to x

Set pchsMotherHealthCagedto x

 

Set pchsFatherForcegreetGlobal to 1

is also useful for firing a force greet on Father to apply any outstanding scenarios. (Apply fashion demands etc. Conditions must be meet though. It's all random and the status "I need to check up on you" is a part of that randomness. So it might need to be tried several times before you get any scenario at all)

 

6 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

Parties sometimes have gotten odd but i think it's script lag when trying to talk to the party members.

Haven't looked at the parties at all. I think I've seen what you're talking about though. Think it's a state bug rather than script lag.

6 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

Are PchsMIlkQuest,  PchsCumslutQuest and PchsWartimes2 (Soulgem factory) not enabled?  I have a mod forcing Lactacid in potions so I became a milkmaid relatively quick on the test but it never got mentioned.  And SGO obv from all the sex has had gems get birthed.  

The demand for MME milk is triggered by being pregnant. But only being female and fertility mode is supported for pregnancy. Being pregnant with soul gems wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for the dialogue. 

6 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

That, oh and the mirror / pchs don't seem to recognize the professional done nails.  I tried those for longer duration and got disapproval for not having nails done.  But removing and swapping to lower duration worked fine.

I'll look into that. Manicures are expensive I doubt most people could afford them. 

6 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

Also when does mother come back?  The option to want her back "any means necessary" aka amputated cage.  Only shows the Crying conversation option (Which is no as a response)

Amputator must be installed for the dialogue option to be available. 

 

1 hour ago, Silvain said:

Personally I turn of male orgasm conditions (or something like that). It's one of the toggles in the upper left. So males can always orgasm as soon as they get the full bar.

Good to know. Must check it out. There aren't very many conditions in my game that would prevent males from orgasming anyway. Except maybe foreplay etc. How does that option behave with foreplay do you know?

[Silvain]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Good to know. Must check it out. There aren't very many conditions in my game that would prevent males from orgasming anyway. Except maybe foreplay etc. How does that option behave with foreplay do you know?

 

Not really, no. I just started to turn this option off because of Wartimes and SLS. Buuut it should be fine. You can just turn on/off Foreplay orgasms.

 

 

Edit: Concerning parties: There is some minor stuff breaking here and there in my game as well. It is mostly the dialogue options. There are 2 ways that can go:

1. Selecting "What can I do for you?" and then the dialogue just aborts. Just talking to someone again solves this.

2. After "What can I do for you?" and going the barrel to get it and entering the idle the option to deliver it is just not there. Talking to another guest resets it.

 

I only observed this after the second party. The first one usually works completely fine (or at least I don't remember it not working).

Edited July 24, 2021 by Silvain

[Samson Nite]

You are my hero, Monoman1 and Sivain !

Thank you very much for replying so quick. You guys are awesome !!!!!!!!  I restarted wartime and SLSO works fine now! The game mod SE 5.6 is much smoother than before.

Way better! Thank you! It is a great help!

 

Outdoor Milking shed activity is still odd to me, because after father take pc to shed, he disappears and when I come back to home and go out, Milk bench is gone.