gregathit Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 This can happen if the slave has a script running. It also "might" happen if the slave is a respawnable npc, such as a bandit or the like.
fejeena Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 And slaves with " No Low Level Processing " you can not sell ( They use/have no AI when the player is not in the same cell )
abc12434 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Thank you both for the quick responses. The slaves I'm trying to sell have both the no low level processing and the respawn boxes unchecked, so I'm unsure if that's the problem.
LongDukDong Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 They also have to be persistent references. Heck, both slave and would-be owner must be persistent.  Here's part of the original README from LST, just translated from Japanese into English.  Quote  Q: slaves can't sell, trainers can't train     A:     ・ When "Unable to trade with" is displayed         ------> Trading partner is non-Persistent     ・ If "It is ridiculous to sell ..." is displayed         ------> Slave is non-Persistent   Some of the phrases.... well, it was google translate. But it does note that both parties must be persistent references.
fejeena Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Good point, yes you also have to check the buyer. And I forgot the "persistent " flag.
abc12434 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 I loaded up the construction set and all the slaves I'm trying to sell and all the prospective buyers all have the "persistent reference" box checked and grayed out.
fejeena Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, abc12434 said: I loaded up the construction set and all the slaves I'm trying to sell and all the prospective buyers all have the "persistent reference" box checked and grayed out. Maybe Load order?  And tell us more about your slaves. All slaves? aAnd a example please, name of the slave. And the name of the buyer you tried.  Do you have more than one slave? Before you sell a slave tell the slave you want to sell "follow me" , this way he is set as your active slave and you can sell him.  If you have more slaves and you have tell you active slave "wait here" then you have no new active slave. Even if 5 other slaves still follow you you can not sell a slave. First you have to tell one of the slaves "follow me"
LongDukDong Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 7:50 PM, abc12434 said: Hello everyone. I'm experiencing an issue with this mod. The slave has been "broken" and is "addicted to sex", but when I try to sell a slave it always gives me the message "[slave name] is not a valid slave!!" I'm afraid I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. This is unnerving as the only thing that brings up the message you're describing is if the slave you're selling has no low level processing and/or is not persistent. Â The Code segment that generates the message: elseif rSlave.HasLowLevelProcessing == 0 || rSlave.IsPerSistent == 0 MessageEX "%n is not a valid slave!!" rSlave return So a good question would be, what is your slave???? Â
abc12434 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I tried to organize my mods in the order recommended by this post: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ I hope I did it correctly.   00  Oblivion.esm 01  Windfall.esm 02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0] 03  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0] 04  Lovers with PK.esm 05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp 06  DLCHorseArmor.esp 07  DLCOrrery.esp 08  DLCVileLair.esp 09  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 0A  DLCSpellTomes.esp 0B  DLCThievesDen.esp 0C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 0D  DLCFrostcrag.esp 0E  Knights.esp 0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.6] 10  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 11  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0] 12  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9] 13  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7] 14  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11] 15  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7] 16  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1] 17  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.15] 18  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.14] 19  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12] 1A  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10] 1B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8] 1C  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 4.9.4.2] 1D  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0] 1E  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 1F  NPCs to Enslave.esp 20  Shady Sam Inventory.esp 21  AAAEnlightened Ring.esp 22  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.1] 23  AWitchTale.esp 24  BookQuest.esp 25  delivery_job.esp  [Version 1.2x] 26  FFM.esp 27  Isiak's fate.esp 28  NakedNord.esp 29  BanditSlaveTrade.esp 2A  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2] 2B  Steve - Hitman.esp 2C  thievery.esp 2D  Windfall.esp 2E  Vamp Aesthetics.esp 2F  Glowing Fractured Soulgems.esp 30  Automatic Attributes.esp 31  BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp 32  Unequip Broken Armor.esp  [Version 2.8.2] 33  Lover's Comfort.esp 34  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 35  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 36  LoversPayBandit.esp 37  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v5] 38  LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 39  LoversSlaveTrader.esp 3A  LoversMB2.esp 3B  Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 3C  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 3D  Lovers3dorgasm.esp 3E  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp  The slaves I'm using are NPCs I made myself (in the 1F NPCs to Enslave mod). They all have the "no low level processing" and respawn boxes unchecked, and they all have the references persist box checked and grayed out. However, for troubleshooting purposes, I've also enslaved some of the NPCs found in the game. Specifically, I've enslaved (and broken) Jorundr, Kastus Sintav, and Colin Stedrine. I've tried to sell both my custom NPCs and those three I just mentioned to: Diram Serethi, Shagol gro-Bumph, Ongar the World-Weary, Olav, and Wilbur, but it always gives me the same message: "[slave name] is not a valid slave!!".  I've tried giving the "follow me" order to my slaves before selling them, but I still get the error message.  Â
fejeena Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Sorry, then I do not know what's wron in your game.  Have you rearranged your load order?  Then start a new game, new character and test if it works. The bug can be in your old save. Always test with a new game. When the bug is fixed you can try old saves . . . and older saves . . . until you found a old save that works ( a bug free save )
abc12434 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I started a new game to test it out. I enslaved pretty much everyone I came across, and was able to successfully sell them. Apparently my save file is the problem? However, even starting with a new file, the custom NPCs I made are still not valid for some reason. I'm not sure why, or how to fix it. Â Thank you everyone for your help.
fejeena Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 If I understood you correctly, you did everything right. But just to be safe here again.  The NPC. The two boxes not checked.  And the NPC placed in the world or cell Is persistent   Now the NPCs should work as slave and buyer.
LongDukDong Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 There is also the question if you added the (xLSTInviolableToken) "Inviolable Token' to the NPC that is supposed to buy the slave. I doubt it. But the token not only prevents the bearer NPC from being enslaved, but also prevents you from selling a slave TO that NPC. The fact it prevents the NPC from buying a slave is not as well known.
fejeena Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 If he created the NPC in another esp he have to know how to script and add the token to the NPCs. I am sure he has not added the token with console. And the buyers are vanilla or BravilUnderground NPCs
kukenmellantuttarna Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 I just tried to sell a bandit i enslaved to an npc added my a crowded cities type mod. And it just says "This npc is able to buy the slave" but nothing happens. I use set essential actors spell to make the buyer have low level processing, but still nothing happens. The slave is already set to quest item and has low level processing with that spell. Now i see when i read here that the npcs must be persistent. So, what is the point then? You enter a dungeon and kill the males then rape the females into submission. And then you cant sell them? Is there a version of this where you CAN sell non persistent npcs?
LongDukDong Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 The issue with non-persistent Actors is that they can/will vanish if you leave their presence. This is part of why dungeons can be cleaned out of enemies and then restock some days later, If you were to sell such a slave to an actor, the slave will vanish from the game in all likelihood and mess up the owner/slave registration system. That is why such barriers were put into place.
kukenmellantuttarna Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 Hmm...so you need a crowded cities or crowded roads mod that adds all persistent actors? Or hmm...no you cant ? must be village mods and stuff. I noticed yesterday that with my bandit slave, if i used the essential actors spell to turn off the nolowlevelprocessing and also turned her into a quest item, she followed into Skingrad. According to the guys who made Fluffys follower frill that is the only mod making it possible to make bandits follow you into cities, because instead of letting the engine take care of the companion following you the mod itself teleports the npc to the teleport beacon in the cell where you are going. Maybe that has nothing to do with sold slaves, i don't know. But if you already sold them, what does it matter if they disappear from the game?
fejeena Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, kukenmellantuttarna said:  But if you already sold them, what does it matter if they disappear from the game? I don't know what happens. But if a slave (LST) or companion ( MCS) is still in your slave/companin book  but was removed/deleted  and you get near the place where you told your slave/companion to wait the game crash. Maybe the same happens when a buyer is removed from game but still in the list in your slave book. And I will not test it Â
kukenmellantuttarna Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, fejeena said: And I will not test it Haha come ooon why not?  5 minutes ago, fejeena said: But if a slave (LST) or companion ( MCS) is still in your slave/companin book  but was removed/deleted  and you get near the place where you told your slave/companion to wait the game crash. But that is easily fixed with the TESTEXPR command. I haven't looked at the code of slavetrader but something like this: "if testexpr blabla" (i forgot where i used this in a mod i made, the obse documentation explains it) or "if eval IsFormValid settingspellskey.pmisc[a]" (from one mod i have) So if the mod calls something that doesn't exist it skips that line = no crash  IsFormValid checks if the reference saved in a variable exist in the game.  Maybe that is why non persistent and no nonlowlevelprocesssing npcs are used?....? If that is the case, someone should fix it. It is a little bit silly not being able to use a mod in a certain way because old obse couldn't allow it!
kukenmellantuttarna Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 By the way, from looking at the architecture in your picture, why haven't anyone yet changed the fences in the game to normal size fences? It is a little bit WoW to have fences that huge.
fejeena Posted May 25, 2020 Posted May 25, 2020 The fence only reaches right below my tits.  Yes most modder do not scale the fences in Oblivion, they are really huge. OK for Horses. But for sheep or Field fence it's too big.
LongDukDong Posted May 26, 2020 Posted May 26, 2020 8 hours ago, fejeena said: Maybe the same happens when a buyer is removed from game but still in the list in your slave book. And I will not test it  8 hours ago, kukenmellantuttarna said: If that is the case, someone should fix it. Well, for now... there IS a method to ensure you don't have an issue.. BUT it is a little drastic  In the OPTIONS spell for Lovers Slave Trader, you have four options. The fourth is basically a RESET of your sold slave ledger. It wipes out all the sales you made and frees the slaves sold. However it does 'end/stop' the quest that controls slave sales and handling, so you do need to use a command console to start it up again.
mma75online Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 8:15 AM, Sladen2019 said: Is there a new version coming soon with all the fixes included and support for Creatures 2.5 ? Right now I am using the one linked to in the Creatures 2.5 thread. I hope they do but oblivion in old game great but old  ... slave trade is great mod & have a lot possibilities ... but its not easy and take huge time to update or make mod based on it like bravil underground which also i hope they make second story part of it ... all this need time & very expert coder i don't think they will do that 1
kukenmellantuttarna Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Well I can at least enslave the bandit heroines. It is actually immersive. The rightous guards as time goes by convince themselves that they are not corrupt if a woman is a bandit, she is a criminal anyway, and hee hee hee "noo please no!"... and nobody knows she is in the guard house anyway, except their friends the other guards. I cannot sell them to the guards but with loversstalker I can at least imagine that I delivered Marion and another of Robin Hood's friends, and I don't know, maybe they are not safe in the guards barracks. But nobody knows they are there. I hope the bandits have a leader. Funny that the guards start fighting eachother after a couple of rapes. I removed the health damage from rape, but now the guards are getting jellous think.
jorgenjoggernaut Posted August 1, 2020 Posted August 1, 2020 So, correct me if I'm wrong: We can slave anyone, but we can only sell named npcs to other named npcs? (Npcs generated by ex. Travelers count as named npcs?) Bandits and the like will disappear after x time if we are not around? (And provoke a crash) So based on the above mention, is better if we enslave named npcs that we don't like?
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