Bravil Underground v0.96

[Guest wellbredbitch]

i reinstalled the all in one MBP file i used and to be sure i installed the sirens and tritons race  and  rosesims hair. i hope that fixes the problem.

 

 

 

before loading my save, i ran the steam "verify integrity of installed files" tool and it found that there were 8 files missing ! i'm surprised the game launched at all.

[Guest wellbredbitch]

does anyone know what race the vampire hunters are ?  mac and elwyn,  are they lop eared elves? 

[torn]

Russian translation (Русский перевод этого мода. Сделан с Японской версии) http://yadi.sk/d/NbQPbF-A7hQDE

[therealkarlsquell]

I have a problem with Mia,

 

i actually trained her with almost anything that is standing around anywhere for some time now, she has reached rank 5 with creature and human value above 100 ... but the quest never seems to update (yes i talked to the novelist), i tried the clinic but nothing, (if i understood it right it is okay that the quest didnt update after askin onan how to train knights). I didnt read all but mostly the answers are i saw here where like just continue it will update are there any other known problems that would hinder the quest to update?

 

And 2nd if i choose to train a slave with continuos training do i have to stay there and watch it or is it going to be working while i go on adventure?

 

Thanks

[fejeena]

You must talk to Mia to get the quest update.

 

 

You get the quest from Onan, you talk to Madam Sizma, she sends you to the novelist, you talk to the novelist. Now you can go back to Onan and ask for tips "Ah, to break a Knight, you must first break their pride!  Yes, this will be a good test for you and your skills as a Trainer. Only repetition can wear down their resolve.  About 10 sessions with both creatures and people should suffice.  Be sure to talk to the Knight every so often to see if their resolve has weakened. "

You start training her.

  Your last quest entry must be "I have been asked to train a female knight.  How in Oblivion am I going to do that?!  I better go see Onan for advice as I don't have a clue how to go about this."

If she is broken and you talk to her the quest update is "The training of the knight seems to be complete.  I should talk to the novelist about compensation."

Then talk to the novelist.

 

If you want to cheat (use the console)

You can click on Mia and write in the console: additem xx00080D 1   (xx is your load order numberof the Lover with PK.esm ) then talk to Mia.

Or you can update the quest (don't click on Mia): setstage xxLSTTG01 20

 

 

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You can let your slaves/Trainer and slave alone (there is a Setting in the INI "Automatic training (training while Player is not there) permission Setting" and Default it is set to "1" = on )

But it's not working right. If you come back and talk to your slave (orders - Training Progress) you see the same number and Level as before, you  must wait and watch 1-2 Training Units befor you talk to your slave then the missing Progress is added ( but it is never as much as if you watch or train your slave yourself )

Better do it youself and use only a few Trainers. Trainers also get higher Levels and a low Level Trainer can not Train a higher Level slave (If a Trainer Level 0 train a slave Level 3 the slave never reach Level 4 or 5 )

 

[fafast]

You must talk to Mia to get the quest update.

 

 

You get the quest from Onan, you talk to Madam Sizma, she sends you to the novelist, you talk to the novelist. Now you can go back to Onan and ask for tips "Ah, to break a Knight, you must first break their pride!  Yes, this will be a good test for you and your skills as a Trainer. Only repetition can wear down their resolve.  About 10 sessions with both creatures and people should suffice.  Be sure to talk to the Knight every so often to see if their resolve has weakened. "

You start training her.

  Your last quest entry must be "I have been asked to train a female knight.  How in Oblivion am I going to do that?!  I better go see Onan for advice as I don't have a clue how to go about this."

If she is broken and you talk to her the quest update is "The training of the knight seems to be complete.  I should talk to the novelist about compensation."

Then talk to the novelist.

 

If you want to cheat (use the console)

You can click on Mia and write in the console: additem xx00080D 1   (xx is your load order numberof the Lover with PK.esm ) then talk to Mia.

Or you can update the quest (don't click on Mia): setstage xxLSTTG01 20

 

 

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You can let your slaves/Trainer and slave alone (there is a Setting in the INI "Automatic training (training while Player is not there) permission Setting" and Default it is set to "1" = on )

But it's not working right. If you come back and talk to your slave (orders - Training Progress) you see the same number and Level as before, you  must wait and watch 1-2 Training Units befor you talk to your slave then the missing Progress is added ( but it is never as much as if you watch or train your slave yourself )

Better do it youself and use only a few Trainers. Trainers also get higher Levels and a low Level Trainer can not Train a higher Level slave (If a Trainer Level 0 train a slave Level 3 the slave never reach Level 4 or 5 )

 

Hi, I'm having the same issue with Mia. When I check "training progress" I get Human 10 Creature 10 Rank -1, and rank never changes and she always says things like "I'll remember this humiliation".  Also when I tried to use the console I would get "item not found for parameter..." for both additem and setstage.  My load order index for Lovers with PK.esm is 03, Lovers with PK.esp is 63, and LSTBravilUnderground.esp is 6f and none of them worked.

 

[fejeena]

10 human 10 creatures is not much, if she has 30 / 30 and is not broken then you can be worried.

And the console commands

additem xx00080D 1

Have you replaced the xx with the Load order ID of your Lovers with PK.esm ? If the ID is 03 it must look like this: additem 0300080D 1

And you must first click on Mia (open console, click Mia so you see her Name at the top, then enter additem 0300080D 1, press enter key )

And the set stage command, NO changes ! Do not replace the xx. This xx is part of the quest ID. so enter in the console (do not click Mia)

setstage xxLSTTG01 20

Pay attention to the spaces.

 

A low Level Trainer must train a slave very often to increase its Level. My Level 5 Trainers ( 5 is max Level) needs about 10 Training sessions to increase the Level of a slave.

[fafast]

Ok, I got it at 23 thanks.  Also, the underground seems very dark to me, is it possible to add more lights to the area? I'm not using any other lighting mods.

[fejeena]

The game light Setting

Or load the BravilUnderground.esp with ConstuctionSet (with OBSE) or with Tes4Edit and cange the light in all too dark cells.

[gregathit]

Ok, I got it at 23 thanks.  Also, the underground seems very dark to me, is it possible to add more lights to the area? I'm not using any other lighting mods.

 

It was designed that way on purpose to force you to use a torch.......it "is" underground ya know.  

There is very little actual combat until.....later.....so it was to create ambiance that it was left so dark.

 

 

Having said that, feel free to change things via the CS to your hearts desire.  Play the way "YOU" want.  

[dragenx]

 Juicy Beef: Lynn [silver Vine Tavern] Drank the Skooma 3000 and end up in the sky see screen shot. going try is again from a save before it and see if it dose it again.

 

I try again the same thing happen 

Edited May 5, 2014 by dragenx

[fejeena]

Yes that's right. (Jump in the water, not on the rocks   )

[gregathit]

Serves you right for drinking something a stranger gave you.  And if you think the beginning of the dream is fucked up..............

[dragenx]

Serves you right for drinking something a stranger gave you.  And if you think the beginning of the dream is fucked up..............

OK I jump into the water and went to the island how long do I need to wait or do I turn the handle  

[fejeena]

365 in game days.

 

 

  do not listen to stupid Khajiits !

Use it whenever you want.

[jkarpynczyk]

Very good mod, maybe add a note to tell the player if he/she is not in the same room as the slave that they have been broken.

[z4m0lx3s]

I have about 200 hours into the current playthrough, and I just noticed a minor bug. When taking a slave to be trained into BU, you can ask both the human trainer and the slave what is the training progress. The slave will report the correct level, but the trainer will jump up to 255, which is the max. Now I haven't used this feature in a looooong while, I completed the main quest, the assassin guild quest and a lot of Shivering Isles quests in the meantime. But I did not change anything at all in the actual game install. And the last I remember, both the trainer and the slave were reporting the correct numbers.

 

Has anyone encountered something similar?

 

Edit: Tried it with some older saves (around 100-150h game play), and it seems like the same thing is happening. Could it be that the trainer is reporting their own status? I think his name is Josepth, and at the 100h mark he has the rank 111, while at the 150h mark he is at 255, which makes sense because I used him a lot. The slaves themselves are still reporting the correct rank.

[fejeena]

Yes the Trainers tell you their own training Level , you can ask a Trainer without a slave and he reports his training Progress.

 

It's good if you know the level of the Trainer, if you train a Level 1 slave with a -1 Level Trainer your slave will not reach Level 2. I have some slaves Level 0 and 1 with 255 Training Units because I used a low Level Trainer.

Especially at the beginning you must take care of the Training Levels when a -1 trainer and a -1 slave starts training it could happen that the slave reached the next Level before the Trainer, then you must stop the Training and give the Trainer a new untrained slave. You can also train with your Trainer to Level him up.

Now I only use a few Trainers so they are all Level 5 and can quickly train my slaves.

 

If you want to "untrain" a slave ( perhaps he is still Level 0 and have reached max 255 Training Units. So you can reduse the Training Units and train him with a high Level Trainer so the slave can reach Level 5)

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13760-lovers-slave-trade-10-english-final/page-19?do=findComment&comment=782619   post 378

[gregathit]

Fair warning to all:  The awesomely talented Galgat has embraced the horror of the the underground city and has released a slightly tweaked version of BUG that I will be offering as an alternate version.  There should not be any issues with saved games or anything like that as far as I am aware.  However, as you know, Galgat is FAR MORE talented than I, in pretty much every way, so I'd recommend a fresh visit to the underground city.  Most of the tweaks are to the female dialogue and the lighting.  Galgat is looking to make other improvements as well, which I will post as soon as they are finished.  

 

Galgat has also tweaked slave trader in conjunction with this so I'll post that as well.  Both should be up in a few hours.

 

Be sure to thank Galgat!

[fejeena]

Have you sent him your clothes you wanted to add ?
You told you have clothes for all NPCs that fit well, especially the brothel girl need better clothes.

 

And more work for me   A NO MBP Version.

[galgat]

Gee greg, I appreaciate that but all I did, was turn up the lighting a little to help those that do not like carrying a torch, and maybe a minor change here or there to some of the dialog options.

 

   If I get time I think there are some things I could actually try, that might help.. But I need to play it more so I understand the quest line better,  I do think it is a very fun mod, and you did a wonderfull job with it. I know how hard it was to translate from some earlier versions that I worked on myself. The quests are very confusing, are they were for me, but very fun also.

 

   Right now I am kind of trying to bring more Quests into Blackmail, if I can just get time to stay on it for awhile.. But my time is really limited right now.

[z4m0lx3s]

Yes the Trainers tell you their own training Level , you can ask a Trainer without a slave and he reports his training Progress.

 

It's good if you know the level of the Trainer, if you train a Level 1 slave with a -1 Level Trainer your slave will not reach Level 2. I have some slaves Level 0 and 1 with 255 Training Units because I used a low Level Trainer.

Especially at the beginning you must take care of the Training Levels when a -1 trainer and a -1 slave starts training it could happen that the slave reached the next Level before the Trainer, then you must stop the Training and give the Trainer a new untrained slave. You can also train with your Trainer to Level him up.

Now I only use a few Trainers so they are all Level 5 and can quickly train my slaves.

 

If you want to "untrain" a slave ( perhaps he is still Level 0 and have reached max 255 Training Units. So you can reduse the Training Units and train him with a high Level Trainer so the slave can reach Level 5)

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13760-lovers-slave-trade-10-english-final/page-19?do=findComment&comment=782619   post 378

 

That makes so much more sense. At first I really thought my game was bugged out, and I couldn't figure out the reasons, since I did not change anything for about a year now.

 

Thank you.

[LibertyPrime]

Scratch my last post. Solved it by turning off 'Sex is an attack' on LAPF settings.

 

I have two issues/questions to report/ask.

 

First off, slaves' AI packages seem to be a bit off when they try to follow you. Sometimes my slaves won't follow me at all, and sometimes when I tell a trainer to train them, they'll still follow me if I fast travel.

 

Also, am I supposed to be able to use ALL the dialogue options this mod adds to everyone in the game?

I'll explain: ever since I started doing quests/jobs around Bravil Underground, I can come up to any humanoid NPC in the game and ask for a Skooma job or if they would like to train my slave, as if they acted like trainers.

[fejeena]

Both issues: No should not happen.

My slaves always follow me ( when I tell them that they should follow me )

And the fast travel problem only happens when I use MadCompanionship Spell and forgot to release the slaves.

 

And the dialogs: must be a bug or mod conflict ??? never happened in my game.

[LibertyPrime]

I DO use MCS so maybe that's my issue. Lol

I'll pay more attention to it when I play around with slaves next time. In case something goes wrong, would there be an issue with using MCS to make slaves also regular followers? Or would the AI packages conflict and go bonkers?

About the dialogue issue... I don't know either. Must be a conflict, then. It's actually quite hilarious sometimes because apparently everyone in Cyrodiil is a Skooma smuggler, even the Emperor and his son... and priests... and preachers...

 

It's not a big issue because I can just ignore it, anyway.