companion Meet Companion Ivy

[Reginald_001]

52 minutes ago, Punsaurus said:

Start a new game right as things are just getting started...

Starting to see Ivy as one of those 'This is why we can't have nice things' mods

Ivy has nothing to do with your CTD issues. A fresh game already confirmed the CTD's don't happen. Multiple people immediately tested your bug report both with and without other mods installed. We took your bug report seriously, refuted it as Ivy being the source by giving it the proper attention a report like that reserves AND we tried to help you solve your issues.

 

Your CTD's happen only because of script overload, scripts attempting to load bad objects or a bad load order. Thousands of people have been using Ivy for years without CTD's. Modding your game and playing mods is a skill. Each mod takes time to know the quirks of. There are people with bad mod load outs that have 30 mods and I've seen clean mod load outs with 300+ mods. It's not the mods, it's the user.

 

Take the advice. Do NOT EVER remove mods from any running 'SAVE' GAME. Once you get the popup 'this save needs mod (X) which is missing' do NOT load that game until the mod has been restored. Loading and then saving is asking for even more problems.

 

The script objectss of mods are stored in the save file and will continue to screw up the game in ways you can't even imagine right now. First stabilize your mod order THEN start your favorite save game. Multiple people have now told you this, because it is true.

 

[kchurchjr]

1 hour ago, Punsaurus said:

Start a new game right as things are just getting started...

Starting to see Ivy as one of those 'This is why we can't have nice things' mods

Ivy is the "Nice Thing" for fallout4 but sure it's this one mod and not on your end. Good luck out in the buggy wasteland 

[thuggysmurf]

Hi everybody, I assume this is an okay place to share some of my Fallout 4 issues. I didn't read all the mod page or recent comments yet, probably some good stuff on there, but I was looking on Reddit for some lore friendly mods to install and then uninstall in the middle of my play-through, and someone mentioned Darryl so I looked at that mod but then started playing Ivy instead. My game gets super crash-happy sometimes, and that really annoys me, so I tried uninstalling 157 of the mods running on my 36-hour save game and determined that it is definitely Ivy herself causing the game to crash in Back Alley Bowling. I asked on the Fallout Cascadia Discord server if anyone else had that problem and Roberto asked me if I checked in xEdit for whether Ivy edits that cell, but when I searched Fallout 4 Nexus for 'xEdit' I couldn't find anything, so I don't know whether that's even for reals, but I'm certain it's definitely this mod causing the issue. Someone else suggested it might be a porn texture mod causing the cell to crash, but I don't use porn mods so it's not that, and even though I'm running AFT and UCF per the instructions, for some reason Ivy won't do some of the things promised in the video. Also, does anyone here have insight on how Ivy works with Magno Cum Gaudio, 4-Play, and Just Business? After installing Ivy, Heather wouldn't do some of the things she usually does with those other mods. There's over 150 other mods I want to talk about here, and also share some of my mod testing experiences, but presently don't want to go into details since I'm tired and I need a rest. I just wish my game would work and that I could have a job plus girlfriend and other nice things that Ivy is preventing me from having.

[Lumpen63]

????

 

[asebw]

22 hours ago, Dragonjoe69 said:

Hi I'm currently running tests similar to yours and have Ivy running has intended (has far has I can tell), with 265 esp/esl, the unofficial patch is not causing your crash, rule of thumb, any time you remove a mod from your load order(there are some exceptions, but I'm not getting into that here) you need to start a new game.  

That is not correct. There are a number of small(ish) mods you can remove mid-play that won't cause the game to crash. It depends on what the mod modifies. Weapon and armor mods can usually be removed  with little or no consequence, as can texture mods and some overrides. Mods that run scripts, or modify base game values are the ones more likely to force you to restart a new game, as well as any mod that adds its own values to the save file. 

 

[asebw]

19 hours ago, thuggysmurf said:

Hi everybody, I assume this is an okay place to share some of my Fallout 4 issues. I didn't read all the mod page or recent comments yet, probably some good stuff on there, but I was looking on Reddit for some lore friendly mods to install and then uninstall in the middle of my play-through, and someone mentioned Darryl so I looked at that mod but then started playing Ivy instead. My game gets super crash-happy sometimes, and that really annoys me, so I tried uninstalling 157 of the mods running on my 36-hour save game and determined that it is definitely Ivy herself causing the game to crash in Back Alley Bowling. I asked on the Fallout Cascadia Discord server if anyone else had that problem and Roberto asked me if I checked in xEdit for whether Ivy edits that cell, but when I searched Fallout 4 Nexus for 'xEdit' I couldn't find anything, so I don't know whether that's even for reals, but I'm certain it's definitely this mod causing the issue. Someone else suggested it might be a porn texture mod causing the cell to crash, but I don't use porn mods so it's not that, and even though I'm running AFT and UCF per the instructions, for some reason Ivy won't do some of the things promised in the video. Also, does anyone here have insight on how Ivy works with Magno Cum Gaudio, 4-Play, and Just Business? After installing Ivy, Heather wouldn't do some of the things she usually does with those other mods. There's over 150 other mods I want to talk about here, and also share some of my mod testing experiences, but presently don't want to go into details since I'm tired and I need a rest. I just wish my game would work and that I could have a job plus girlfriend and other nice things that Ivy is preventing me from having.

 

Ouch, paragraphs mon, paragraphs. 

 

So,

 

First Problem: If I am reading this right, you uninstalled 157 mods and tried to use the same save file that used those 157. That right there could be a problem, cause your save file is probably now damaged from missing those 157 mods. If you are going to remove that many mods from the mix, you usually want to start a clean save. Also, I am REALLY hoping you are using Mod Organizer 2 or Vortex, and not NMM. 

 

Second Problem: You're not supposed to use AFT with Ivy because AFT blocks/overrides some of Ivy's abilities and features. UCF has conflicting scripts with Ivy, which can also disable some of her abilities and dialogue. While UCF is the lesser of the two evils in terms of breaking Ivy, you should not be using either of them. Also not sure if you should be using AFT and UCF at the same time. 

 

Third Problem: Four-Play. Not sure how you found four-play, but if you are trying to run animations, particularly sexy ones, you NEVER, EVER, EVER!!! Use Four-play. Four-play is a dead project that got replaced with the Advanced Animation Framework (AAF). With the exception of two animation packs from FP, nothing four-play is used anymore, and most of it is incompatible with what is currently available. If you need something to help you get animations going, Saya_Scarlett keeps an updated AAF installation guide here. If you need an example of a mod list running AAF, I will shameless plug mine here.

 

Fourth Problem: I have used both heather and ivy at the same time in the past, and other than stretchy boob issues with heather when used in animations, both work fine. Whatever is going on with your mod list, is not being caused by either companion mod. Rather, they are just the results of an underlying problem. With Ivy, some of the issues are probably to do with AFT and/or UCF. They may also be causing issue with heather as well. But there are also other mods that could be a issue. I get the feeling there might be several issues with your current list that might need to be addressed. 

 

Fifth Problem (Well technically the second): There is to my knowledge no known issue with back alley bowling and ivy. If the game is crashing when trying to enter the cell, that means something is not loading right, which could be a number of things from textures, to some sort of cell edits done by a mod. If the game is crashing when trying to go to a specific part of back alley bowling, or while interacting with something in a part of BAB, that's most likely a script issue, or the game trying to access something that is no longer there (like content from a mod that has been removed from the mod list). 

 

As for the rest, 

 

   - Magno Cum Gaudio has no issues with Ivy that I am aware of, but some of its dependent mods might. I would try running your mod list without MCG first to make sure Ivy is working correct, then add it to the mix to see if it makes a difference. Because MCG alters so much of the base gameplay, it can make it hard to tell what is causing the problem with some issues. 

 

   - Just Business should not be affected by Ivy or vice versa unless you try and do something weird with Ivy.

 

   - If the game is getting super crash happy in certain areas, it usually is either because the game has a memory leak trying to load the area (particularly in script heavy locations), or it's trying to run some process (ie, a script) that is corrupted and ends up causing an exception that forces the game to crash. I've had this happen to me in the past with some of my more crazier Sim Settlement Sanctuary builds actually. Depending on the area where the game is crash happy, it can be easy to identify which mods are causing the issue. 

[Dragonjoe69]

34 minutes ago, asebw said:

That is not correct. There are a number of small(ish) mods you can remove mid-play that won't cause the game to crash. It depends on what the mod modifies. Weapon and armor mods can usually be removed  with little or no consequence, as can texture mods and some overrides. Mods that run scripts, or modify base game values are the ones more likely to force you to restart a new game, as well as any mod that adds its own values to the save file. 

 

What part of "there are some exceptions, but I'm not getting into that now" don't you understand? 

[GodWearsGucci]

55 minutes ago, asebw said:

That is not correct. There are a number of small(ish) mods you can remove mid-play that won't cause the game to crash. It depends on what the mod modifies. Weapon and armor mods can usually be removed  with little or no consequence, as can texture mods and some overrides. Mods that run scripts, or modify base game values are the ones more likely to force you to restart a new game, as well as any mod that adds its own values to the save file. 

 

That is 666% incorrect and anyone who follows that advice should seek help. Just by removing an ESP from the load order causes most if not all mods with scripts or any major game changes to start bugging or or eventually causing crashes cause now since the load order was changed so it also affects the others. It doesn't always affect it right away and sometimes it affects it instantly. The best mod authors that know bugthesda engine inside and out have stated it's ABSOLUTELY not safe to uninstall mid playthrough. 

[Tron91]

1 hour ago, GodWearsGucci said:

That is 666% incorrect and anyone who follows that advice should seek help. Just by removing an ESP from the load order causes most if not all mods with scripts or any major game changes to start bugging or or eventually causing crashes cause now since the load order was changed so it also affects the others. It doesn't always affect it right away and sometimes it affects it instantly. The best mod authors that know bugthesda engine inside and out have stated it's ABSOLUTELY not safe to uninstall mid playthrough. 

dude don't simply speak rubbish. if you know what a mod alters/does, you can judge by it, if that mod is removable mid game or not.

[GodWearsGucci]

59 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

dude don't simply speak rubbish. if you know what a mod alters/does, you can judge by it, if that mod is removable mid game or not.

I don't care to hear your misguided information about "judging" a mod lmao. Been modding skyrim since it came out. My game has been crash proof going on 6 years now. You can do what you want.

[Tron91]

44 minutes ago, GodWearsGucci said:

I don't care to hear your misguided information about "judging" a mod lmao. Been modding skyrim since it came out. My game has been crash proof going on 6 years now. You can do what you want.

Yes I can do what I want. And I learn by what I do. So long of your modding skyrim, yet you don't learn!

[Reginald_001]

Alright guys. This is not a 'modding talk' thread. It's the Ivy thread.

 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Reginald_001 said:

Alright guys. This is not a 'modding talk' thread. It's the Ivy thread.

 

 

Ivy Threads?

I customized them a bit.

 

Oh wait.....

You said Ivy thread.

 

[Guest]

Did one in Black too.

 

[sudoadmin]

I'm lazy on only half ass searched but does anyone have a good ModList that works with current version of Ivy?

 

Thanks.

 

I know there is one for wabbajack but that probably is not the route I want to go :--)

 

 

[Dragonjoe69]

4 hours ago, sudoadmin said:

I'm lazy on only half ass searched but does anyone have a good ModList that works with current version of Ivy?

 

Thanks.

 

I know there is one for wabbajack but that probably is not the route I want to go :--)

 

 

All of the available multi follower mods cause issues, with the exception of Every Ones Best Peanut butter licker.... ok ok Best friend lol,  no WDI but FBI is actually a requirement....yea I've been drinking... FDI works and so far Thuggy's mod hasn't produced any problems, now that I have totally confused my self with all these abbreviations, please review some of the prior posts, they will help you on your path to Ivy excellence, be zen brother, Ivy will free your sole to the next level of depravity and perversion

[nightshad]

what is this please 

 

A.F.T.  is that animations or is that something else? so i know not to install it if i plan on getting IVY

[Guest]

6 hours ago, nightshad said:

what is this please 

 

A.F.T.  is that animations or is that something else? so i know not to install it if i plan on getting IVY

It's short for Amazing Follower Tweaks. It's a mod on Nexus that is supposed to give you a lot more control over your followers, including multiple followers.  However, it is quite bugged. And the problem is once you load it, you are committed to it for the life of that game.  The issue here, is that it changes a vanilla follower script that Ivy references. So, it breaks Ivy.

[Frobits]

On 3/18/2021 at 3:18 PM, Reginald_001 said:

Alright guys. This is not a 'modding talk' thread. It's the Ivy thread.

 

 

Yeah i tried saying that to my wife...didn't work on her either.  ?

[Reginald_001]

14 hours ago, nightshad said:

what is this please 

 

A.F.T.  is that animations or is that something else? so i know not to install it if i plan on getting IVY

Amazing Follower Tweaks  (AFT)

Unlimited Companion Framework (UCF)

And LIGA of companions.

[Abigailqueen]

Hey just wondering if this mod works with Ivy?

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20310/?tab=files

[Doctor Steam]

On 3/14/2021 at 7:09 PM, unintended87 said:

Just found an issue, Ivy's dialogue interjection during the Sanctuary quest stopped Sturges' dialogue completing, and stopped me progressing to the quest to provide food. Could just be something I've done wrong but thought it was worth mentioning.

Seen something similar to this.

 

Once she is with you, Ivy is going to interject in that conversation with Sturges whether she's in what you might consider conversational range or not. So it will appear as if the conversation is broken but actually Ivy is talking out of range and possibly moving around, I never tested the moving around portion but believe its likely. Once I realize what the issue was I made certain Ivy was WITH me when I start that conversation, That solves the issue.

[Owrom]

hi there,

trying to costumize Ivy with LMCC via 'slm ... 1' and i have some trouble applying a costum skin color to her directly (ie a fantasy purple).

are there some limitation doing so?

i try to cue my color but it does not apply but only revert. if there any ways to get her colored, please let me know.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Owrom said:

hi there,

trying to costumize Ivy with LMCC via 'slm ... 1' and i have some trouble applying a costum skin color to her directly (ie a fantasy purple).

are there some limitation doing so?

i try to cue my color but it does not apply but only revert. if there any ways to get her colored, please let me know.

Ivy's physical appearance is 100% vanilla. There is a body mesh in her mod, but she's not connected to it. her meshe's and textures are 100% based on the game's (Either vanilla or whatever other mods you use) So, if there is any issues applying a LM Preset, it's probably another mod.

 

I have dozens of presets for Ivy, and never had any issues applying any of them, unless LM and any associated mods were not configured correctly.

 

(one of my lists - they all work)

 

I don't use them, but I have seen where presets are referencing files that aren't present.

 

Here's what I would do. Next time you open a problem preset., go into the folder and open the associated JSON file in notepad. (Or whatever editor you have)

 

At the top of the json, is a list of all the plugins used to create the preset.

 

The screenshot above references these.

 

 "Gender" : 1,
   "HairColor" : "LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp|000805",
   "HeadParts" : [
      "Glowing Eyes.esp|000806",
      "MiscHairstyle.esp|000830",
      "Fallout4.esm|0CFB4E",
      "Fallout4.esm|04D0E9",
      "Fallout4.esm|0CFB3F",
      "Fallout4.esm|11CCBC"

 

 

You need to have all the plugins listed in the JSON for the preset to work

 

[kchurchjr]

11 hours ago, LighterNZ said:

Hey just wondering if this mod works with Ivy?

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20310/?tab=files

Works fine. I use it all the time and with the retexture 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/42925