OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, erojiraiya said:

Thanks for the patches, a lot !

I wish ther'd be more SLATE scripts like these for the non-creature animations, like unify doggy anims and stuff

adds a bit of latency when configuring SL, but it's great :x !

now to find how to get those table anims working... (chairs are fine) ><

If you want anything specific just let me know. I think already have unifying DoggyStyle for Creatures. Anyway I don't include more options for Creatures because I don't need it and nobody asked for. 

The Table Furniture work fine but only the Table's with Benches are included because the rest are static objects (Not Furnitures) I already included few of the static Table for the next release and even the high wardrobe will be detected as Wall.

[erojiraiya]

Seriously, thanks again ! i'm running on SE and it's a great help (had to make a new character though, cleaning SL broke too many links with the other mods apparently).

 

Now for a wishlist, let's see... (also my english isn't perfect, sorry  ). This is gonna be a lot, but i'm looking at my SLATE right now :

 

1st : a "no filter creature" and "no filter (PC/NPC)" for Slate, to be able to mass edit the tags, and probably a "save to file" button if that's even feasible (and maybe "load from file", i know there is already a .json somewhere in the folders, but it might be useful to be able to have save slots, if you want to edit 1000 animations over time for example).

not too sure how the action log works to be honest (instruction not clear, p***is stuck in the drawer ), i'll have to work on that.

Filtering by the animation name keywords would also be great, for some packs who are reaaaally lacking tags (especially FB).

 

the main idea would be to re-organise the animations in their different filters in SLATE. For example, if you browse through 50 FM-non aggressive animations and you find something like "something rape table" in it, you should be able to add it to the aggressive and furniture filters, and next time you load the game it'll be out of "non aggressive" tag filter. (i'm assuming it was in the non-aggressive" filter because it didn't have the tags... also i just tried and even after adding the tags it's still in non-agressive. i'll try the action log thing).

 

now :

-add aggressive/aggressivedefault (don't know which of these 2 is the most important) tags for anims like, for example, "FBRape" or "Forced" or simply "rape" which doesn't include them

-add oral to BJ/cunnilingus (some FX aren't playing on these, i thought it might be related to the tag ?)

-unify doggystyle (same as for creatures), i don't know if 'doggy' is sufficient though.

-add "furniture" tag for anims with "animobject, pillory, table, chair, beds, doublebeds..." tags (main reason would be to be able to edit them directly from a "furniture" filtered list)

-remove useless tags (i'm thinking about the name of the packs, which, with a few exceptions, are useless for the filters ex : "Znarroks", "leito", "AP" or "Funnybizness")

-unify cursed loot/DD/ZaZ tags ? last time i tried a CL device for example, it worked perfectly, but ZaZ armbinders doesn't seem to trigger the filters (added it through additem mod though, it might be the source of the problem), also some have "DD", the others "DeviousDevice" : i don't know if it can cause trouble.

-a filter for boobjob/footjob/handjob (some include furnitures which could be edited)

 

 

maybe a patch for sexlabtools to add a "number of animations per pages" setting ?

 

i'll try to look for slate filter editing when i have the chance, so i could help out a bit

 

[erojiraiya]

sidenote : i'm an idiot, i should have paid more attention to the action log thing ><

Just saw your file, brb after 1160 actions to apply ^^;

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

sidenote : i'm an idiot, i should have paid more attention to the action log thing ><

Just saw your file, brb after 1160 actions to apply ^^;

Everyone know SLATE is not the most intuitive tool and being honest I don't made any effort to make it more intuitive. So is natural missed few options and possibilities currently allowed.

 

The Tag system is bit complicated because many of the tags are used by Mods for specific functions and considering the amount of existing Mod is almost impossible know what Tag is useless. 

 

By other side the "AggressiveDefault" tag is to help remember what Animations was "Aggressive" as default because Mods like "Aroused Creatures" allow toggle the "Aggressive" Tag.

 

Will see what can I do about the suggestions

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

-add aggressive/aggressivedefault (don't know which of these 2 is the most important) tags for anims like, for example, "FBRape" or "Forced" or simply "rape" which doesn't include them

aggressive is used for calling rape anims, aggressive default just toggles them in aggressive category in Sexlab. I dont know if aggressive tag has any meaning of its own honestly. 

 

 

3 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

-add oral to BJ/cunnilingus (some FX aren't playing on these, i thought it might be related to the tag ?)

its not tag based, its based on JSON modification. Just open the JSON file with txt editor and see. you can easily change that urself (even while skyrim is running)

in SLAnimloader set Reload JSON data and reapply JSON data. Look in console for errors. 

 

3 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

-unify doggystyle (same as for creatures), i don't know if 'doggy' is sufficient though.

there is only doggy. 

 

3 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

-remove useless tags (i'm thinking about the name of the packs, which, with a few exceptions, are useless for the filters ex : "Znarroks", "leito", "AP" or "Funnybizness")

removing tags is unecessary because they cause no harm. and some ppl might use them. 

 

3 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

-unify cursed loot/DD/ZaZ tags ? last time i tried a CL device for example, it worked perfectly, but ZaZ armbinders doesn't seem to trigger the filters (added it through additem mod though, it might be the source of the problem), also some have "DD", the others "DeviousDevice" : i don't know if it can cause trouble.

-a filter for boobjob/footjob/handjob (some include furnitures which could be edited)

this one is a real mess and a sad one too. 
I for example miss the gag tag on DD gags. So that they play the gag sound from ZAP. 
But this is unrelated to slal. and slate 

 

 

[erojiraiya]

Thanks for the feedback !

Currently i'm having issues with the action log, i'll look into papyrus logs when it's done to see where it's coming, and if all fails i'll just edit sur json in SLAL i guess >< (it might be the SE port, we'll see)

I'm quite surprised there aren't more action log sharing tbh, i just opened a random leito json and i found typos everywhere ><

 

Edit : no errors on papyrus, it just takes forever to apply the 1132 records (most of them could be removed apparently...or did slate already made changes ?) ^^;

Tell me, does SLATE edit the .json on SLAL or just the sexlab registry ?

speaking of, since i started a new game after installing your utility module, is there still a need to use the clean button ?

 

EDIT 2 : start : 08:29:36PM ; end : 10:50:17PM ... let's remind everyone that they should edit the action log file to remove unused animations ^^; now i think i know why there's so little sharing.

 

If you ever feel like 1 minute of gameplay means 1 hour working on files and browsing patches... why do we love this game so much ? ?

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

Edit : no errors on papyrus, it just takes forever to apply the 1132 records (most of them could be removed apparently...or did slate already made changes ?) ^^;

Tell me, does SLATE edit the .json on SLAL or just the sexlab registry ?

speaking of, since i started a new game after installing your utility module, is there still a need to use the clean button ?

The JSON Log file is my SLATE Log result of the Record option in SLATE for that reason almost for sure have more Animations that you are needed. I was thinking about make some function to clean the Log file and let only the records related to the current installed Animations and also remove the duplicate ones. I usually do that manually.

 

SLATE don't modify the SLAL JSON files just the SexLab Registry in memory. For that reason you will need to reapply the SLATE Log every time you Reset the SexLab Registry use the Clean System option or start new game.

 

The Clean System option in my case is mostly needed when I add new furniture Tag's or when install (not update) the Utility Plus. If you start new game with the Utility already installed you don't need to use the Clean System option.

[erojiraiya]

yup, got it.

Also quick tweak : if you leave the original DDi filter on, with your DDI & ZAZ filter on, it'll conflict and the animation will switch to completely ignore zaz's (although the DDi 'use bound animations' should be on).

i just tried and it launched a zaz anim at first (coherent with a damn device some falmers threw at me ><) to change the animation 2 seconds after the start for another one unrelated.

 

You'll want to advise to toggle the original zaz & ddi filters off ^^  

 

[StripedWhite]

I've noticed that the Aroused Creatures Tweak doesn't seem to work for me. It doesn't seem to be doing anything, and the minimum scan time shows as 9999.9999...., while average and longest are at 0. I'm playing LE and using the 04.01 SE version with the 04.01 tweak for LE. Could this could be from me messing up upgrading from the old LE Aroused Creatures version? I don't remember what steps I took for it, but I'm thinking that's a distinct possibility.

[NoNickNeeded]

You could try to disable Aroused Creatures and the Tweak in your mod manager, load your save, make a new save and then restart with the mods re-enabled.

That worked for me, though my problem was a permanently enabled struggle bar, rather than a loss of functionality.

[StripedWhite]

Oh, can't believe I didn't already tried that. Did that and toggled the mod on and off in-game as well, and it looks to have worked! Got the scan values down to something realistic, at least, will have to see if things start actually happening too. Thanks!^^

[OsmelMC]

5 hours ago, erojiraiya said:

yup, got it.

Also quick tweak : if you leave the original DDi filter on, with your DDI & ZAZ filter on, it'll conflict and the animation will switch to completely ignore zaz's (although the DDi 'use bound animations' should be on).

i just tried and it launched a zaz anim at first (coherent with a damn device some falmers threw at me ><) to change the animation 2 seconds after the start for another one unrelated.

 

You'll want to advise to toggle the original zaz & ddi filters off ^^  

 

Those filters are not %100 ready, still need the ChangeActors part to replace the 100% of the DDi Animation System. The ChangeActors function is to reduce the amount of actors on the Animation to force a bound Animation in case don't exist one Bond Animation for the amount of actors in the Animation. Usually the bound Animations are for 2 actors so if the amount of actors is too big then almost sure the Animation will ignore the devices. My idea is reduced the amount of actors and use the rest of the actors in another Animation (probably some masturbation depending of the situation)

 

Personally I have Disabled the Original ZaZ and DDi Animations Systems but since I know my filter is just in the 90% I don't dare to recommend that for all users. Right now my filters are good and probably better than DDi Animation system in some points but in general DDi still do some things I don't so for now depend of the user preference. But don't worry I almost ready to include the ChangeActors function not for the next release but probably the following.

[erojiraiya]

your filters are fine for me for the moment. Quick update : i found out that the json filter of SLEN (which i highly recommend) removed furniture animations. i removed the tag from the banned lists and now it should help with the "use furniture" functions  ... or so i hope, at least they pop-up with 'h'

 

[Sorrow_421]

I have a problem with the Aroused Creatures Patch - Both of them (I dont use both together) "Recent Scan Performance - Minor" is stuck at 99999.000000 no matter what I do. Tried new game, clean save, I have all the requirements, tried playing with MCM settings, etc. Nothing, the creatures won't engage, degub didn't show any errors. As soon as the mod loads "Recent Scan Performance" stays at the number I wrote above. Also it almost last In my Load Order but still. Anyone any Ideas? I posted 2 images under spoiler.  Tnx.

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[Nymra]

30 minutes ago, Sorrow_421 said:

 

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what kind of MCM mod do you use? This looks cool! 

[Sorrow_421]

8 minutes ago, Nymra said:

what kind of MCM mod do you use? This looks cool! 

Dear Diary - Paper SkyUI Menus Replacer LE

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, Sorrow_421 said:

I have a problem with the Aroused Creatures Patch - Both of them (I dont use both together) "Recent Scan Performance - Minor" is stuck at 99999.000000 no matter what I do. Tried new game, clean save, I have all the requirements, tried playing with MCM settings, etc. Nothing, the creatures won't engage, degub didn't show any errors. As soon as the mod loads "Recent Scan Performance" stays at the number I wrote above. Also it almost last In my Load Order but still. Anyone any Ideas? I posted 2 images under spoiler.  Tnx.

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The Recent Scan Performance is just informative.

 

Try Enabling:

1. Allow Creature Followers

2. Allow FF

3. Allow MM

4. Debug

 

Also increase the "NPC to Check" to 4

And Change the "Creature Gender" to "Both"

 

Some Mods can force all the creatures gender to Male or Female so that can get in contradiction with some of the previous options.

Also this Mod depends of "SexLab Aroused" even if is not in the list so just for test you can temporary change all the "Required Arousal" options to "Either"

 

If still don't work make sure the "Debug" option is enabled an send me the Log file

[Sorrow_421]

2 hours ago, osmelmc said:

The Recent Scan Performance is just informative.

 

Try Enabling:

1. Allow Creature Followers

2. Allow FF

3. Allow MM

4. Debug

 

Also increase the "NPC to Check" to 4

And Change the "Creature Gender" to "Both"

 

Some Mods can force all the creatures gender to Male or Female so that can get in contradiction with some of the previous options.

Also this Mod depends of "SexLab Aroused" even if is not in the list so just for test you can temporary change all the "Required Arousal" options to "Either"

 

If still don't work make sure the "Debug" option is enabled an send me the Log file

Thank you for replying. Here is the log (quite big I know). I know lots of mods, but this is the only mod that I have a problem with, I tested all others in previous playthroughs and they played fine. My mods were always the same at least 95% across all playthroughs. I know that the more mods the more problems. The only mod that I added recently and on a new game and is considered BIG is "Slaverun Reloaded". And the most recent addition is SLAC. Clearly something conflicts but I can't figure out what. If you want me to post my Load Order I will. And again thank you, I use most of your mods and I love them.

Papyrus.0.log

[OsmelMC]

@Sorrow_421 just open the log file the problem was evident.

 

You don't have correctly installed the "Aroused Creatures SE" Mod and my Tweak. 

 

The log file show some of the "slac" files as missing.

 

You need remove the Mod and tweak open and save the game to clean the save, close all and follow the specific installation instructions of the tweak version you want to use.

 

Also is possible you Mod Manager be ignoring some files in the installation process. In that case you will need to install it manually or use the oldest version.

 

If the problem is with the Mod Manager let me know what Mod Manager you are using and if is showing some Errors when install the tweak

[Sorrow_421]

10 hours ago, osmelmc said:

@Sorrow_421 just open the log file the problem was evident.

 

You don't have correctly installed the "Aroused Creatures SE" Mod and my Tweak. 

 

The log file show some of the "slac" files as missing.

 

You need remove the Mod and tweak open and save the game to clean the save, close all and follow the specific installation instructions of the tweak version you want to use.

 

Also is possible you Mod Manager be ignoring some files in the installation process. In that case you will need to install it manually or use the oldest version.

 

If the problem is with the Mod Manager let me know what Mod Manager you are using and if is showing some Errors when install the tweak

Thank you osmelmc. I was using the LE version of SLAC with your patch. I installed the SE version and your patch and everything works fine now "MO2". I thought that the SE version was not needed. Stupid me. Again thank you.

[HUndeaDE]

Hey @osmelmc, I have a slight issue with SL Utility Plus. Basically, there's no love juice at the end of animations with SLUP installed. I tried it on both new and existing saves w/o any luck.

 

So I went through the first few pages looking for a solution and came across this post by @Nymra.

 

Hiding SLUP's sslActorAlias.pex in MO2 seems to have fixed the issue for now. Is there an issue with that file or is the problem on my end? If so, how do I go about fixing it?

 

Thanks.

[OsmelMC]

@HUndeaDE I don't see any problem with the orgasm in my game. 

 

The Cumshot fix by Hawk is not compatible with my SexLab Utility so if you have it please remove it and install the original Cumshot

 

The first I always advise is make sure none of my files are been override be any other  Mods or missed. Can produce CTD or at less misbehave.

 

Also the cum effect can be affected by few options in SexLab MCM and some other Mods like SLSO. I know SLSO have a independent option to disable orgasms at the end, if you have SLSO installed check that. 

 

 

[Nymra]

5 hours ago, HUndeaDE said:

Hey @osmelmc, I have a slight issue with SL Utility Plus. Basically, there's no love juice at the end of animations with SLUP installed. I tried it on both new and existing saves w/o any luck.

 

So I went through the first few pages looking for a solution and came across this post by @Nymra.

 

Hiding SLUP's sslActorAlias.pex in MO2 seems to have fixed the issue for now. Is there an issue with that file or is the problem on my end? If so, how do I go about fixing it?

 

Thanks.

Use this version:
 

 

[HUndeaDE]

@osmelmcI'm not actually using the CS fix by Hawk. I just linked to that comment because it mentioned conflicting sslActorAlias.pex files, and I thought maybe I'll try disabling that file and see what happens. And sure enough, when I disabled SLUP's sslActorAlias.pex and went back to the original SL version, it solved the issue.

 

Your mod is one of the last mods in my load order and isn't being overwriten by anything. Even the plugin is close to the bottom, only non-SL stuff like ELE and DynDOLOD are lower than it. As for the rest of my SL mods, its pretty lightweight comparatively. SLAL + a few packs, ZaZ, SL Tools, SL Simple Sexing, Manipulator, Anim Speed Plugin, SL Aroused Redux and Spectator Crowds Ultra, none of which interfere with your mod as far as I can tell.

 

Not sure why I'm having this issue with that file enabled if its working fine on your end.

 

@NymraLike I mentioned above, I wasn't using the other version of CS either. But it looks like an interesting mod. I'll check it out. Thanks.

[OsmelMC]

@HUndeaDE check the options related to the orgasms effects and make sure are enabled include the option to allow orgasm at the end.

 

But don't worry. The version I using is almost ready to release and is possible already have some fix related to that. I know I recently made some fix related to the orgasm but don't remember what.

 

Don't remove the sslActorAlias file because can produce bigger problem.