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I always check nexus todays pictures and I always feel sad about it.. Pictures that I saw people posted are showing me that we all are little bit lonely..

Dont get me offansive I just wanted to share things in my mind but those pictures always with another npc and with pose modes reminds me instagram.. I mean some people are lucky they are social and have friends to post pictures instagram with..But some of us not like that so we are posting our npc friends? I might be wrong what you think guys?

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I don't think I'm lonely.  Admittedly I am alone very often, but I've always been a solitary person.  I like to be with friends but for me that is very draining.  It is almost like a type of work.  Fun work, but work.

 

But I don't use any poser mods or anything like that for pictures.  I haven't really figured them out, and I don't think they'd look good.  I focus on performance of the game, not graphics.  My Skyrim may be the ugliest, but it will rarely crash.

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22 minutes ago, Weyland-Yutani Corp. said:

I personnaly dont post any pics of my characters or npcs and i dont post pics of me or my friends on any social network. I mean before the time of facebook and all those bullshits, the only important things were to just have fun with our friends only to have fun ! Not to have something to post on internet like "Hey ! Heeey !!!  Look at me, i have friends !"

 

Internet is a wonderful tools but for me social networks is only make people more and more away from what is real...

I agree completely.  I generally avoid social networks and never post pics of myself.  I do post pics of some of my characters when releasing my new tattoo mods.  But that's more as a demonstration.

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What I meant to say is that you are basing your opinion on the premise that everything in real life- including beautiful women- are better and that we shouldn't be wasting our time modding and playing games and taking screenshots. You clearly miss the point of it all.

 

Sure, lonliness might be a contributing emotion for some people when they make a mod or post screenshots. For me, it is not longing to be with someone in reality. Rather, it is my longing to be there, in that world, with those characters doing stuff. The only limit to what you can see/do in a game is your own imagination and everyone's modding skills/shared desires. Games are an escape from reality, not a mirror of it. Otherwise, there would be no point as you suggest.

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Why should being alone be bad? If you don't like being alone, that means you don't like your own company. I recommend you to not categorize being alone as good or bad. Rather try to enjoy it.

Also, in my humble opinion, the screenshots posted here and other game sites are infinitely more honest than most photos posted on social networks. Photos on this kind of website are not indicative of happiness at all.

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Art is born from expression, and emotion. Its a way to speak where your lips fail. It is a way to show what is inside you at your core. It is free form it is unfiltered. At the same time, what the artist is projecting and what the viewer is feeling maybe two different things entirely, or they maybe the same. You can never know for sure until the artist/poster outright tells you and even then its still up to interpretation.

 

That is what art does, that is what pictures do, they show a story, but let the viewer tell it. I say this because what you are feeling maybe true, and also not at the same time. To me when I was posting pictures, it was a way to steel myself, to allow myself to feel whatever I was feeling, to not be afraid to show love for something that is a outlet for many emotions and that be ok among those that seem the same. Did I feel lonely while doing it? Yeah sometimes, but that was just one of the emotions and also the point.

 

Every emotion is up for grabs when you visually express yourself. Its the point of doing it really. I'm in a 9+ year committed relationship but on skyrim my soul self character is committed to this dream guy follower in the game. I like to take pictures that are very sensual and erotic with this npc all the time. I genuinely love the character and have intimate dreams of the character because I indulge in the fantasy.

 

Hell skyrim has become a replacement for porn many times because of this fantasy. I also feel friendships from npc I spent years with because of how long I had thye game and how often I played the game and would play when going threw some hard times in my life. I'm very introverted, and been hurt a lot so I'm weary with people. I don't have friends outside of family. I have my bae, my sisters, aunt and mom and two cousins.

 

Sometimes I reach out to try and make a friend out of wanting a regular friend, someone to relate to, but it always turns out to not be worth it for me. I'm happy with the people I have right now in my life just fine, I trust and rely on them as they do me. Its exhausting talking to people, trying to trust someone new proves to be more problem then its worth for me. My art is where I can be me and invaluable to me, and often times the only thing I could turn to when no one else could be around or I wanted no one else to be around. I say all this because this is not a sad truth, but it is my truth that I'm happy with. Hope this helps ❤️

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Loneliness is the result of a faint amount of misery created by boredom. I don't see loneliness as a bad thing necessarily, but an indication that i'm bored and it's making me slightly miserable and a feeling that i am lonely. So when i start feeling lonely i think of doing something, to distract myself and get busy on something and i'm not feeling lonely anymore. Of course it's not possible to completely get rid of that feeling, every now and then the feeling creeps up on me, but it's just part of life i guess. Everyone feels lonely every now and then.

 

I don't think mass social media attention is the answer. Feeding narcissism on instagram or any social media platform and evaluating loneliness inversely with the amount of likes/views won't make the feeling of loneliness go away. Even the most narcissistic person will know deep down that thousands of faceless people are not gonna make them feel less lonely or not lonely at all permanently. I'm sure it doesn't need to be said that it's possible to feel lonely even while having friends. The friends that make you feel lonely are not friends at all.

 

Being alone is not the same as being lonely. This distinction is very important. I'm fortunate enough to have few friends that i know are in it for real and not just superficially. But i guess, since i grew up with them it only makes sense. I honestly don't need any more than that. I do have some people online that i enjoy talking to so there's that as well.

 

TL;DR Don't let it become a cloud over your head, just do what you want and try to do things you'll enjoy. Loneliness is largely about perspective.

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It's clear to me too, GG. Some people may not get off on the blend of aesthetics, tech and ingenuity that bring together the immersive qualities of gaming , but ... I know I do ... and

have, many times. Like some of the others said, I've avoided posting for quite awhile now. I even pulled my avatar. But, I think I may again post SOME things, soon BC there may be aspects of loneliness in some of this... but there (and I'm not talkin' FB here ... no, no, no) but recently, in admiring some of the stuff that's posted, e.g, in some of the Clubs right here on LL - I've seen some pretty good stuff. And even if it's to look at what some other person is thinking through analyzing their work ... I'm thinking that it's communicating with a kindred spirit. Like right now. Got to 'talk" to all  You for a min. or two ... while I wasn't distracted by the pleasant visual GG Enthusiast has brought into my wold today ?

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2 minutes ago, Mr.Otaku said:

Loneliness is the result of a faint amount of misery created by boredom. I don't see loneliness as a bad thing necessarily, but an indication that i'm bored and it's making me slightly miserable and a feeling that i am lonely. So when i start feeling lonely i think of doing something, to distract myself and get busy on something and i'm not feeling lonely anymore. Of course it's not possible to completely get rid of that feeling, every now and then the feeling creeps up on me, but it's just part of life i guess. Everyone feels lonely every now and then.

 

I don't think mass social media attention is the answer. Feeding narcissism on instagram or any social media platform and evaluating loneliness inversely with the amount of likes/views won't make the feeling of loneliness go away. Even the most narcissistic person will know deep down that thousands of faceless people are not gonna make them feel less lonely or not lonely at all permanently. I'm sure it doesn't need to be said that it's possible to feel lonely even while having friends. The friends that make you feel lonely are not friends at all.

 

Being alone is not the same as being lonely. This distinction is very important. I'm fortunate enough to have few friends that i know are in it for real and not just superficially. But i guess, since i grew up with them it only makes sense. I honestly don't need any more than that. I do have some people online that i enjoy talking to so there's that as well.

 

TL;DR Don't let it become a cloud over your head, just do what you want and try to do things you'll enjoy. Loneliness is largely about perspective.

And don't wanna leave you outa that Otaku ... think that was well said .. and the pic is nice too...

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It's not the same, doing skyrim shots NSFW or not takes a lot of technical skills and creativity, at least if you do it right. For me this is a creative outlet that I miss in my job or otherwise in my everyday life.

Posting stuff on Instagram with or without friends on it is for the most part selling a life you pretend to have in order to impress your friends that pretend to have a similar exciting life. I'm talking about the everyday dude or girl posting on Instagram not Influencer/models etc. that's for the most part even more fake. 

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2 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Ha! I just thought of something. Some people think art is a pale reflection of life and reality. I say that life and reality are a pale reflection of art!

yes, some personify exactly that what they mirror on images, their game and videos.
more I do not want for that say, otherwise I'm the bad guy again. :classic_laugh:

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4 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Sure, lonliness might be a contributing emotion for some people when they make a mod or post screenshots. For me, it is not longing to be with someone in reality. Rather, it is my longing to be there, in that world, with those characters doing stuff. The only limit to what you can see/do in a game is your own imagination and everyone's modding skills/shared desires. Games are an escape from reality, not a mirror of it. Otherwise, there would be no point as you suggest.

The illness that I have keeps me housebound and often bedbound nearly all of the time so computer games like Oblivion give me a world that I can explore and where I can do things that I could never do for real.  I'm not lonely as I've always been content with my own company and the characters that I play reflect that since I hardly ever use companion mods.  I'm asexual so sex mods hold no interest for me either.  It's being able to immerse myself into the gameworld that's the main event for me and even though I know the streets in the towns in Oblivion better than the streets in the town where I live in the real world I never get tired of playing the game.

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1 hour ago, foreversleep said:

I'm not lonely as I've always been content with my own company and the characters that I play reflect that since I hardly ever use companion mods.

I can play both ways I guess. Sometimes I really like being alone doing things since companions can get in the way. Other times, it's nice to have some company- especially if they are well made followers with as much unique stuff added to them as possible (or just hot).

 

I keep looking for a common theme or characteristic among die-hard pc modders/gamers and it's seeming more and more like "loner" is it. These are usually highly intelligent, extremely opinionated, fiercely independent people that like to make their own rules and enjoy their "me" time passionately. Most would rather sit at their pc making mods or modding their game/playing it instead of socializing. They usually don't have many friends because most people don't understand them or their "hobbies"- Ashal has mentioned something about this before. Just my opinion based on observation anyway.

 

When I am modding/playing, I tend to block everyone and everything else out.....and that isn't a great way to spend time with anyone. I could see myself more mad at a house fire...say.... because it interrupted my game and caused me to lose progress than any damage it might do. Needless to say I would be miserable without games to play (and a pc to mod them). :classic_tongue:

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9 hours ago, Yohen said:

I always check nexus todays pictures and I always feel sad about it.. Pictures that I saw people posted are showing me that we all are little bit lonely..

Dont get me offansive I just wanted to share things in my mind but those pictures always with another npc and with pose modes reminds me instagram.. I mean some people are lucky they are social and have friends to post pictures instagram with..But some of us not like that so we are posting our npc friends? I might be wrong what you think guys?

You're correct but not in the way you think. There are people whom are ensconced in the community in general, but they are far far outnumbered by people simply looking to bask in the oohs and ahhs of whatever trendy paywall outfit is the it thing this week, whatever trendy instagram filter they got off their secret everyone else is a dick but us discord circle jerk, and while that doesn't cover everyone, it covers a shit ton.

 

And sure for some, there is genuine sympathy and a search for finding the greater context, but you're not going to find it everyday or even every month; never mind people with character made from that preset and that outfit and that QQ paywall body. Nexus was a circle jerk of no look upvotes and photoshop not even a year out of the gate, and it hasn't gone away, nevermind the "OC DONUT STEELs" that have the same name, skin color, and general look of a character that already exists in another genre or format.

 

For every person that does it because that's what they know and enjoy doing there are fifty that do it for the fapfap spike in the amygdala and little else. The sensitive nerd locked in the only place that's safe and warm stereotype was commoditized both culturally and socially years ago, and it's prolly not coming back with any earnestness anytime soon.

 

5 hours ago, Alter Native said:

technical skills and creativity

It's not the Mona Lisa or even in the same general sphere. It sounds elitist and it probably is but the majority of "screenarchery" and screenarch community is navelgazing trend-fellatio hypocrisy so profound they could tell what sex your next baby will be before it happens, and there isn't the level of talent pool to back it up, never mind all the slathered on trendy bullshit from sources completely outside of the game for those desperately desperately needed upvotes, hearts, and green numbers. If you're using faceapp, cs, gimp or anything else, you're likely not even a screenarcher, you're an upvote whore, simple as, period, and the vast majority of your content probably looks like exactly everyone else's. 3/4 view to hide the fucked left eye? check, enb settings that render your game completely unplayable? check. 8 layers of Bokeh DoF in game where camera technology doesn't exist? check. Latest CA hobbled pink and blue as fuck background down to blood red vertical shadows on what should be a sunny day at noon combined with completely blown the fuck out Chernobyl level skin luminance that makes the vaseline shots in Star trek TOS look like 8K 14bit hidef? check. The amount of the same pose, the same anim and the same lighting spot copy-paste is biblical and literally legion compared to people that just post to capture a mood, a character, or a piece of relatable context.

 

Yeah, there's a large gulf between creator numbers and user numbers but Skyrim and Sims carry a level of ego and entitlement that is dwarfed only by Second Life is levels of absurdity,

 

On the flipside, I actively maintain my social life, but I will always and forever focus on quality over quantity. Upvotes and emojis are cheap, friends who take one in the ass for you or pay your medical bills without asking or spend all night looking for your jerk dog sleeping it off in the next door neighbor's attic  are a universe away, and you should be cultivating one of those things and leaving the other way way behind, cause life is shorter than you think, and +1s on the innerwebs isn't nutrition, it's pure junk food.

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3 hours ago, winny257 said:

yes, some personify exactly that what they mirror on images, their game and videos.
more I do not want for that say, otherwise I'm the bad guy again. :classic_laugh:

Yes I think so.  I know in my own case all my characters are almost painfully thin and so am I, my characters always use a sword and bow as their weapons and I trained in the sword arts when I was younger.  I do own a bow and I did use to practice with it before I became ill, so while I wasn't a great archer I still like my characters to have bow skills.  So all that sounds very much to me like I'm using my characters to do the sort of adventuring that I can't do anymore myself.  Personally I think that's a good thing and it's way better than sitting in bed staring at the wall all day.

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I thought doing screenshots might be kind of fun but never got really into it, ended up being way more work to get things looking ok than I wanted to put in.  Even then, the whole reason I looked into it was because I would occasionally see people telling stories with their screens and thought it might be kind of fun to try myself.  Needless to say no story was ever told, because like I said, it was more work than it was worth to me.  I never felt like there was a social aspect beyond "I wonder if this will entertain someone else". 

 

The point is, for some people, it might be a substitute for interaction they aren't getting in their actual lives, for some it could be a desperate need for validation, some might use it as their artistic medium, and then some might just do it because they feel like it's kinda fun.  Hard to know for certain which it is for any given person without having a decent chat with them.

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2 hours ago, Just Checking said:

Hard to know for certain which it is for any given person without having a decent chat with them.

Or at any particular given time. I think I've uploaded screenshots for all the reasons you mentioned with a mix of each plus some more. In fact, we all do to some extent. You can tell the ones that are doing it for up-votes and the ones that are doing it for art's sake or to point something out. Like was said, if you touch your shit up in PS or Gimp or something, then you are probably what I call a "like whore".

 

To me, touching one's screenshots up in a photo editing software is a waste of time for just sharing in the screenshot section. It should be about the essence or message of the shot rather than how graphically stunning and polished it looks. For a mod, that's different since you want to make it look pretty good. I have a friend who is hooked on the likes for their SS's and I just don't say anything since they are otherwise pretty cool. Besides, it's a losing fuckin' battle since "fans" are ever more critical and there's always the new kid in town stealing the limelight.

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6 hours ago, 27X said:

It's not the Mona Lisa or even in the same general sphere. It sounds elitist and it probably is but the majority of "screenarchery" and screenarch community is navelgazing trend-fellatio hypocrisy so profound they could tell what sex your next baby will be before it happens, and there isn't the level of talent pool to back it up, never mind all the slathered on trendy bullshit from sources completely outside of the game for those desperately desperately needed upvotes, hearts, and green numbers. If you're using faceapp, cs, gimp or anything else, you're likely not even a screenarcher, you're an upvote whore, simple as, period, and the vast majority of your content probably looks like exactly everyone else's. 3/4 view to hide the fucked left eye? check, enb settings that render your game completely unplayable? check. 8 layers of Bokeh DoF in game where camera technology doesn't exist? check. Latest CA hobbled pink and blue as fuck background down to blood red vertical shadows on what should be a sunny day at noon combined with completely blown the fuck out Chernobyl level skin luminance that makes the vaseline shots in Star trek TOS look like 8K 14bit hidef? check. The amount of the same pose, the same anim and the same lighting spot copy-paste is biblical and literally legion compared to people that just post to capture a mood, a character, or a piece of relatable context.

 

Yeah, there's a large gulf between creator numbers and user numbers but Skyrim and Sims carry a level of ego and entitlement that is dwarfed only by Second Life is levels of absurdity,

 

On the flipside, I actively maintain my social life, but I will always and forever focus on quality over quantity. Upvotes and emojis are cheap, friends who take one in the ass for you or pay your medical bills without asking or spend all night looking for your jerk dog sleeping it off in the next door neighbor's attic  are a universe away, and you should be cultivating one of those things and leaving the other way way behind, cause life is shorter than you think, and +1s on the innerwebs isn't nutrition, it's pure junk food.

So you call me elitist? Please read that post again.

 

What are you even talking about and how does that relate to anything I said in my post? You're free to have your opinion about people, but all I said was that it takes technical knowledge and some creativity to take good screenshots. I also said it serves as a creative outlet for me as I work on my screenshot story blog. It's not on Shakespeare or Mona Lisa level and neither did I claim it to be.

 

You're not even wrong with parts of what you just said. Sitting in Goma Pero Land with the latest micro bikini is not particularly creative, but there are hundreds of people doing different, interesting and creative stuff. There are people doing tones of custom work work for their screenshots. Custom textures, models, locations etc.... maybe look further then just Skyrim porn.

Creativity and art are not the same thing, that's probably what got you confused. 

 

Also it does take a decent amount of technical knowledge. Tell a random skyrim first timer to take a screenshot like the ones you just shit upon. They won't be able to and it takes a reasonable amount of work to get to the point where you even achieve that. 

 

But none of that matters anyway, reading the last paragraph of your post makes it crystal clear that you only wrote it to feel good about yourself, the same emotion people look for when they hunt upvotes and emojis.

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