Sexlab Defeat SSE

[TheOrcInHeels]

2 hours ago, v48342 said:

I'm gonna try again without the addon... And then I think I will have ran out of ideas.

It did not work either.

[TheOrcInHeels]

8 hours ago, v48342 said:

It did not work either.

And I removed tons of mods, and readded some by some, te see if some of them were the culprit. And it works without removing any now... I guess it was a wrong load order calculated by loot... but I cannot know for sure.

[Kristus Kringle]

On 12/13/2020 at 12:28 PM, rodrigo2 said:

My PC surrenders to a bandit, everything proceeds normally....but then for the animation, my PC goes through the proper motions for the animation while the bandit just stands still.  Any idea what's wrong? I tried to use Tools to get the animation to work properly, but nothing works.  Any idea what's wrong?  I have other sexlab mods installed as well:  aroused, SL Adventure, SexLab Sexlife, etc.  Do any other SL mods conflict with Defeat?

Hit the 0 key and see what animations are doing that. Recently for some reason I'm having that problem with ZAZ. If it's a different animation then rebuild animations in Sexlab and if that doesn't work reset Sexlab and if that doesn't work rebuild animations in SLAL. If it is ZAZ, rebuild animations in that MCM. 

 

[Kristus Kringle]

On 12/15/2020 at 3:04 AM, v48342 said:

I'm in a new fresh installation and defeat is not working. Either the mcm menu does not show up, or it does but it never ends intializing.

 

I have tried several things, like starting without defeat and once all mods stop spamming restart with defeat. But no success.

 

I'm gonna try again without the addon... And then I think I will have ran out of ideas.

Which add-on? If it's Bakafactory then that hasn't given me any problems but there was another add-on converted by one of the people that converts a lot of mods and it will break Defeat in your game. I don't remember the name of the other add-on, thought it was deleted but who knows. Try making a clean save, disable Defeat, start the game, save, exit, (wouldn't hurt to clean with Resaver), re-enable Defeat and start the game. Sometimes it takes a little while before the MCM shows up. Some people have the MCM not showing up problem, don't know why. Also make absolutely sure you downloaded the file with sse in the name, it's very easy to download the wrong one. 

[TheOrcInHeels]

6 minutes ago, Duncan Idaho said:

Which add-on? If it's Bakafactory then that hasn't given me any problems but there was another add-on converted by one of the people that converts a lot of mods and it will break Defeat in your game. I don't remember the name of the other add-on, thought it was deleted but who knows. Try making a clean save, disable Defeat, start the game, save, exit, (wouldn't hurt to clean with Resaver), re-enable Defeat and start the game. Sometimes it takes a little while before the MCM shows up. Some people have the MCM not showing up problem, don't know why. Also make absolutely sure you downloaded the file with sse in the name, it's very easy to download the wrong one. 

Thanks, I tried all of that. I'm pretty sure it was the load order. The add on from nomkaz, I have not actually test it yet, but normal defeat works:

 

[Trial37]

I'm having an issue where Defeats Aggressive animations don't start properly. the characters move to each other and strip, but then nothing. If I open and close the menu till make it start, but that's annoying and immersion breaking. Its just the Aggressive animations, if I begin a consensual animation by using the surrender key on a non-hostile npc it works fine. I also have other mods that initiate sex that also work fine. This problem has persisted across multiple saves and a reinstall

[klatti]

Is it somehow possible to increase the 10 seconds enemy calm after aggression?

[Astarte29]

10 hours ago, Trial37 said:

I'm having an issue where Defeats Aggressive animations don't start properly. the characters move to each other and strip, but then nothing. If I open and close the menu till make it start, but that's annoying and immersion breaking. Its just the Aggressive animations, if I begin a consensual animation by using the surrender key on a non-hostile npc it works fine. I also have other mods that initiate sex that also work fine. This problem has persisted across multiple saves and a reinstall

Check your animation settings for player as victim or player/follower aggressor.  They're on different tabs from consensual animation setups.

 

Read carefully-there are some tricky "and/or"conditions I found on default that i had to tweak to get things as I liked them.

[Astarte29]

7 hours ago, klatti said:

Is it somehow possible to increase the 10 seconds enemy calm after aggression?

Look on the menu, player as victim tab.  See how long the aggressor "satisfaction" is set for.  If there is any setting in Defeat that effects what you're describing, my money is on that one.

 

That said, lots of different mods have settings for calming-might not be coming from defeat.

[yukkuri715]

Is anyone else having trouble activating threesome animations for Creatures? I have some Canine 3some animations loaded, but the animation always defaults to 2-person

 

I've tried going into the files, changing Numref from 62 to 43, but that doesn't seem to work.

 

Also, Does anyone know how to remove Tags in MCM?

I've tried to bruteforce by adding all the animation tags for group sex, now im not sure how to get rid of them.

 

Thanks.

[klatti]

On 12/20/2020 at 8:13 AM, Astarte29 said:

Look on the menu, player as victim tab.  See how long the aggressor "satisfaction" is set for.  If there is any setting in Defeat that effects what you're describing, my money is on that one.

 

That said, lots of different mods have settings for calming-might not be coming from defeat.

Thank you for the answer. However the 10 seconds are shomehow hard coded in the mod or there might be an ini file where this can be adjustet but is not (yet) integrate in the mcm?

[mrdoodle]

I have installed Hypothermia to up the immersion a bit.

But it seems that Defeat doesn't work if there isn't a NPC involved (like in falling to death, hypothermia's degrading health, and such).

So I tried to involve Death Alternative to handle the non-NPC deaths, but that didn't work either.

Anybody know how to fix that?

[BrokenRivals]

I'm not sure if someone else has had this problem and if it's been resolved and I apologize if it has, but sometimes after defeat has been started, lets say for example two bandits have their way with me, after the first is done with me, they will go over to my follower and then just stare at her, doing nothing. Then the second bandit does it with me and after that they both just stand around doing nothing and I have to free myself by resisting (spamming a and d key). Not only this, but after that when I've freed myself, my character puts her arms over her breasts and I can break this animation by readying my weapon, but I can't attack at all with any of my weapons as if my mouse for some reason has stopped working, but only when trying to swing a weapon or use a bow. When going into the menu or my inventory to do anything, my mouse works fine, so I'm not sure why it only happens when I try to attack someone. The only way to fix this is by saving and quitting to desktop and then coming back to my saved game. Has anyone else had this problem and/or any ideas on how to fix it? Any help is greatly appreciated.

[nitrovegeta]

I am having any issue where Defeat just will not kick in. It's installed all the settings are set to factory but my character just keeps dieing the Defeat action just refuses to start.

[Gukahn]

On 12/25/2020 at 1:53 PM, BrokenRivals said:

I'm not sure if someone else has had this problem and if it's been resolved and I apologize if it has, but sometimes after defeat has been started, lets say for example two bandits have their way with me, after the first is done with me, they will go over to my follower and then just stare at her, doing nothing. Then the second bandit does it with me and after that they both just stand around doing nothing and I have to free myself by resisting (spamming a and d key). Not only this, but after that when I've freed myself, my character puts her arms over her breasts and I can break this animation by readying my weapon, but I can't attack at all with any of my weapons as if my mouse for some reason has stopped working, but only when trying to swing a weapon or use a bow. When going into the menu or my inventory to do anything, my mouse works fine, so I'm not sure why it only happens when I try to attack someone. The only way to fix this is by saving and quitting to desktop and then coming back to my saved game. Has anyone else had this problem and/or any ideas on how to fix it? Any help is greatly appreciated.

The only thing i could think of is that you forgot to toggle Follower Support in the settings. Other then that i don't know sorry =(

[BrokenRivals]

5 hours ago, Gukahn said:

The only thing i could think of is that you forgot to toggle Follower Support in the settings. Other then that i don't know sorry =(

It's fine, thank you for the help. The main issue is just the attacking not working properly and having to reload the game every time which kinda sucks :(

[Church the Cat]

I'm having a couple issues.

1. The big one is that my follower won't speak to me, after being raped by enemies. She moves her mouth, but nothing is said. This also keeps me from accessing her inventory or even dismissing her.

2. I use AFT with three followers, and the followers don't stay down during scenes involving the player, they stand back up and interfere. I had to resort to disabling witness intervention to get them to stop.

 

I'll add my load order, for reference.
 

Spoiler

 

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl=1
UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp=1
JailRape.esp=1
KSHairdosSMP.esp=1
Fertility Mode.esm=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
Mortal Enemies.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
Better Females - Eyebrows.esp=1
AnubAnimObj.esp=1
12FemaleBrows.esp=1
Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp=1
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1
CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp=1
Killable Children.esp=1
Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp=1
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp=1
InstantMining.esp=1
NB-Scars.esp=1
NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SLAL_K4Anims.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SLSO.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
TW3Eyes.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
VioLens SE.esp=1
sr_FillHerUp.esp=1
CombatMusicFix.esp=1
imp_helm_legend.esp=1
HornyCreatures.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
KC - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
DisableAutoAim.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp=1
Deadly Damage.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

 

 

[idkwtfamidoing66]

I want to do a male play through but for that I would like to still have the player as victim enabled. However, I want that only my followers get affected, and the PC is only knocked down, is that possible? I tried disabling the male options in the MCM but that makes it so the player can never be a victim, which defeats the purpose

[Tonny Wright]

On 12/27/2020 at 10:52 PM, Church the Cat said:

I'm having a couple issues.

1. The big one is that my follower won't speak to me, after being raped by enemies. She moves her mouth, but nothing is said. This also keeps me from accessing her inventory or even dismissing her.

2. I use AFT with three followers, and the followers don't stay down during scenes involving the player, they stand back up and interfere. I had to resort to disabling witness intervention to get them to stop.

 

I'll add my load order, for reference.
 

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GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl=1
UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp=1
JailRape.esp=1
KSHairdosSMP.esp=1
Fertility Mode.esm=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
Mortal Enemies.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
Better Females - Eyebrows.esp=1
AnubAnimObj.esp=1
12FemaleBrows.esp=1
Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp=1
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1
CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp=1
Killable Children.esp=1
Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp=1
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp=1
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp=1
InstantMining.esp=1
NB-Scars.esp=1
NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SLAL_K4Anims.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
SLSO.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
TW3Eyes.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
VioLens SE.esp=1
sr_FillHerUp.esp=1
CombatMusicFix.esp=1
imp_helm_legend.esp=1
HornyCreatures.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
KC - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
DisableAutoAim.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp=1
Deadly Damage.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

 

 

The first one happened to me before. What you can do is disable the "Player as victim" option, which will temporarily let you speak to your follower until you enable it again. The only way I know to fix it for good is reinstalling the mod or reloading a save before the issue happened.
About the second one, I never managed to make the followers work properly with Defeat in my game, so I don't really know a way to fix it.

[milestream]

Can someone with a working version post their settings for Defeat? I used Reconfigure and Clean up for Defeat and not sure if I have the proper settings.

[Guest]

Argh, help! Installing, then removing Defeat has broken my SE setup's ability to load past saves (from before I installed Defeat) and I'm out of ideas of places to look for things Defeat might have done or leaked that would cause save loading to CTD.

 

I use MO2 and installed Defeat without any unusual steps, pretty straightforward and the same as I'd done many times with LE Defeat years ago before I stopped using it (with the difference of running Nemesis to bring in the animations instead of FNIS). I loaded up an existing save, played a little, decided I'd still not like to have Defeat in my load order, so I deleted the mod and the few saves I'd made while testing it, deleted Nemesis's output entirely and reran it. Tried to load the same save I'd loaded before to test Defeat, CTD. Went back a little further, then way further, then to a save mere minutes after New, all CTD. New games do not CTD, nor does loading saves made from new games. Something leaked from Defeat that conflicts with old saves and I'm stumped, anyone have any thoughts? (Could SexLab have saved something outside the main save and ess files that would be a problem not solved by going back to older saves? Racemenu? SoS?)

 

[sexcapades]

On 1/5/2021 at 12:13 AM, Tonny Wright said:

The first one happened to me before. What you can do is disable the "Player as victim" option, which will temporarily let you speak to your follower until you enable it again. The only way I know to fix it for good is reinstalling the mod or reloading a save before the issue happened.
About the second one, I never managed to make the followers work properly with Defeat in my game, so I don't really know a way to fix it.

We used to be able to use the cleanup tool, but (for me) that doesn't seem to be functioning right now.

[Shonrim]

On 1/6/2021 at 9:15 AM, milestream said:

Can someone with a working version post their settings for Defeat? I used Reconfigure and Clean up for Defeat and not sure if I have the proper settings.

No one yet has a working version of SL Defeat SSE.7z. It was a port of an LE version which did not work either. The only version of Defeat that works is Defeat V5b3.3fixed.rar for LE written for SexLab 159. It is a thing of beauty. And SexLab Submit 01SEP14 1133.7z works great with it also. Submit is another mod that has become broken for LE and SE in its current form.

[mrdoodle]

On 1/15/2021 at 4:27 AM, Shonrim said:

No one yet has a working version of SL Defeat SSE.7z. It was a port of an LE version which did not work either. The only version of Defeat that works is Defeat V5b3.3fixed.rar for LE written for SexLab 159. It is a thing of beauty. And SexLab Submit 01SEP14 1133.7z works great with it also. Submit is another mod that has become broken for LE and SE in its current form.

I have it working for my PC (I am not interested in npc surrender so don't know if that works).

I use it together with Death Alternative, and I am using the 'Use Deferredkill' option in that mod (it explains that the save file will be corrupted if turned of).

 

Edit: the only thing that I want that does not work is death by enviroment. Frostfall takes care of frost damage, but falling and drowning does not work... yet.

[prologue1337]

Just a simple question:

Is it possible to not have certain animals "Defeat" you for example wolves, dragons?

 

Everything can be a sex offender but some shouldn't... and I don't know how to avoid since its an of hit effect.