guide Skyrim SE for Beginners - V 3.2.6 (Outdated)

[wollboi]

@hakto is right, I just ran the newest version of DynDOLOD and it took like 15 minutes. The author must have really optimized it recently.

 

@jaeos You mean the bikini mage armor? I took a look at that last night randomly and liked it, but it kept crashing Bodyslide. I rebooted my machine and it fixed the problem, but it just seemed like option overload. I freak out when presented with too many options. I did check out Ghaan's Revealing Outfits and am playing around with it now. I think it adds skimpy outfits that are still more-or-less immersive. Like I have no trouble believing a priestess robe for Boethiah is going to be creepy-witch-hot or Dibella is going to be overtly sexual. We'll see, I'll probably end up tossing it for one reason or another.

 

Daily prayer that Realistic Armor gets a ****ing Bodyslide one day. I hear if you pray on it, God Howard will descend upon you and bestow you with one of His many blessings.

 

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Of no interest to anyone - I recently completed a very short run using Survival Mode. It's ... a mixed bag, but I think mostly positive. Not being able to fast travel hurts, but sometimes I want the immersive feeling of traveling from Falkreath to Whiterun for the eight thousandth time. Making food is actually kind of fun, and gave me an excuse to actually use food for anything other than making Vegetable Soup (most broken item in the game). Cold wasn't that big of an issue with a horse, and would have been fine without one--I've never understood the need for camping mods in this game when an inn is always a thirty minute walk away.

 

... And then I got to Solstheim. Ho-lee shit. My character probably lost at least fifteen toes (and she wasn't even Argonian). I ended up traveling with Fur Armor a lot just for warmth, which was awkward when high level enemies show up. Trying to get the final of the Deathbrand Armor was insane. It was the one on the western shore, and when you get to the river and realize you're going to have to get around a river by walking up a mountain and back down again. That was definitely an "I'm fucked" moment.

 

If anyone wants to try Survival out, there are a few mods I'd look at. There is an "Unofficial Unofficial Patch" just for Creation Club content that worked very well. SkyUI doesn't support warmth ratings out of the box, but there's an addon for it that does, and allows you to customize more what you'd like to see in the menus. I REALLY don't understand why the author changed the default view from "by name" to "by the stupid blank symbol thing to the left of the page nobody uses" and then "by equipment".

[jaeos]

4 minutes ago, wollboi said:

@hakto is right, I just ran the newest version of DynDOLOD and it took like 15 minutes. The author must have really optimized it recently.

 

@jaeos You mean the bikini mage armor? I took a look at that last night randomly and liked it, but it kept crashing Bodyslide. I rebooted my machine and it fixed the problem, but it just seemed like option overload. I freak out when presented with too many options. I did check out Ghaan's Revealing Outfits and am playing around with it now. I think it adds skimpy outfits that are still more-or-less immersive. Like I have no trouble believing a priestess robe for Boethiah is going to be creepy-witch-hot or Dibella is going to be overtly sexual. We'll see, I'll probably end up tossing it for one reason or another.

 

Daily prayer that Realistic Armor gets a ****ing Bodyslide one day. I hear if you pray on it, God Howard will descend upon you and bestow you with one of His many blessings.

 

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Of no interest to anyone - I recently completed a very short run using Survival Mode. It's ... a mixed bag, but I think mostly positive. Not being able to fast travel hurts, but sometimes I want the immersive feeling of traveling from Falkreath to Whiterun for the eight thousandth time. Making food is actually kind of fun, and gave me an excuse to actually use food for anything other than making Vegetable Soup (most broken item in the game). Cold wasn't that big of an issue with a horse, and would have been fine without one--I've never understood the need for camping mods in this game when an inn is always a thirty minute walk away.

 

... And then I got to Solstheim. Ho-lee shit. My character probably lost at least fifteen toes (and she wasn't even Argonian). I ended up traveling with Fur Armor a lot just for warmth, which was awkward when high level enemies show up. Trying to get the final of the Deathbrand Armor was insane. It was the one on the western shore, and when you get to the river and realize you're going to have to get around a river by walking up a mountain and back down again. That was definitely an "I'm fucked" moment.

 

If anyone wants to try Survival out, there are a few mods I'd look at. There is an "Unofficial Unofficial Patch" just for Creation Club content that worked very well. SkyUI doesn't support warmth ratings out of the box, but there's an addon for it that does, and allows you to customize more what you'd like to see in the menus. I REALLY don't understand why the author changed the default view from "by name" to "by the stupid blank symbol thing to the left of the page nobody uses" and then "by equipment".

soooo you didn't play with frostfall back in the day? ? there is a mod called cloaks of skyrim that helps with the freezing thing, campfire to swim to the other shore or island, build a fire and put up a tent so you won't freeze to death. I can't play the CC survival but frostfall is pretty brutal in it's own right for the cold and hypothermia. 

[hakto]

Do anyone know good mods to increase difficulty, beside skyre and requiem? Before reinstalling I've used Wenches (Deadly, forgotten etc).

 

[trgdolors]

Speaking of seeing "warmth" in SkyUI...

 

I am using uranreactor's new-ish Dear Diary Dark Mode - SkyUI Menus Replacer SE. I had been using the "paper" version, and though I really didn't care much for that look, it had been functionally awesome. Feature rich, no ESP slot, can install/uninstall mid game to test, very configurable, active development, compatible. It replaces MANY mods in this guide, many of which are uranreactor's own mods. And uranreactor is very helpful and knowledgeable.

 

I bring this all up because DD adds the option to see warmth in SkyUI, but I am not using any survival mods and cannot really test it.

 

I find the Dark mode version much better looking than the Paper version, and even has a few new features. After trying both Dark Mode styles, I chose the "texts - white color". The warm text version was way too hard to see, especially with any screen glare. I have been using it for a while. The mod's page has a lot of concise info on mods and load order. Worth a look even you don't want the mod.

 

Things I found from this guide that DD replaces (some things can still be used if you want):

 

Better MessageBox Controls
Five Main Menu Wallpapers - Main Menu 04 (or any starting wallpapers)
Wider MCM Menu for SkyUI
Better Dialogue Controls

 

Things I was using, but DD allowed me to drop:

 

Favorite Things - Extended Favorites Menu for SkyUI
ReCleaned Menu
Remove QuickSave Button from SkyUI System Menu

Edited February 20, 2022 by trgdolors

[jaeos]

4 hours ago, hakto said:

Do anyone know good mods to increase difficulty, beside skyre and requiem? Before reinstalling I've used Wenches (Deadly, forgotten etc).

 

Frostfall, if you want to make it really deadly.. don't install campfire.

[wolbae]

Please, someone tell me what I'm doing wrong before I lose my mind with this 'No Grass Cache' thing. @__@

[alaunus01]

13 hours ago, hakto said:

Do anyone know good mods to increase difficulty, beside skyre and requiem? Before reinstalling I've used Wenches (Deadly, forgotten etc).

 

 

That is a really tall order. Make it more difficult. It has to be good. ---- That is like ordering a good car getting a two seat sports car when you really needed a family van.

 

The standard options to make skyrim slightly more difficult without turning it all up to eleven immediately are theese:

 

- Decreasing loot drops. Vanilla skyrim starts dropping the endgame loot after you hit level 20ish? -- Morrowloot deals with that and it already is in this guide. You just need to make sure that any other loot stuff you add is taken care off too.

 

- Not cheesing it with crafting. Vanilla Alchemy especially. Even regular smithing can feel cheesy when you properly scaled high level loot.

 

- Understanding Encounter Zones. 'Unlocking' encounter zones and making them scale all the way with your level sounds easy enough once you took a casual glance at what those are right? Too bad enemies turn into simple hitpoint sponges once you leveled past their 'designed' level range so that might not be your cup of tea either. EZ are one of those rabbit holes that can get complicated really fast (I'll just add that high level enemy mod! - oh snap, that one uses fugly vanilla models - etc etc etc)

 

And that is just the beginning.

[Aylis]

And, as usual, Alaunus adds a very good post. ? Others do as well. So thanks for that too.

 

Trying to crank the difficulty up without having bad side-effects is hard. And i mean REALLY hard.

 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Aylis

[Decopauge123]

Consider NPC Animation Remix (DAR)

               "Scratching head animation, pulling pants, pondering, checking pockets in Riften... 22 idles for NPCs with appropriate conditions using DAR folders and big amount of less noticable animations to fix inconsistencies: prevents NPCs from standing synchronized, for example. Works with NPCs added by mods as well as vanilla. No esp/esl! "

 

It's only requirement is Dynamic Animation Replacer.  The author provides an EVG Animation Variance elders patch, a Vanilla shield position patch and an NPC AR enchanting with Improved Camera - patch, and lets you decide if the Dovahkiin's idles are (or are not) affected.

 

This seems to fit in very well with the other DAR-related mods.

Edited February 21, 2022 by Decopauge123

[wolbae]

Is there another way to download the Unofficial patch? I am trying to download it but the old link, after the countdown to download, is corrupted.

[hakto]

On 2/20/2022 at 7:36 PM, hakto said:

Do anyone know good mods to increase difficulty, beside skyre and requiem? Before reinstalling I've used Wenches (Deadly, forgotten etc).

 

I mean mods for battles. I installed all mods from the list, but all fights seems easy.

Want to add some challenge (not "a not hit difficulty"), like bosses feel like bosses, higher level enemy feel like it, be better than me in terms of attack and defence. 

I don't exploit overcap of alchemy, smithing, enchanting. 

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by hakto

[wolbae]

I found a way to download the Unofficial patch, but no matter what I do I cannot run the No Grass Cache. It gives me an error regarding versionlib-1-5-97 in SKSE/Plugins. Thing is, there IS none that I can find, only version-1-5-97 and versionlib-1-6+.

 

I have downgraded my skyrim version, run everything and downloaded everything up until the point of the No Grass Cache, but that is where I hit a wall with this list. Is there any way around/to fix it?

[wollboi]

@jaeos Oh, I played with Frostfall. I think the difference for me is survival mode seems doable without tedium. Eating and sleeping aren't that big a deal (hello, iNeed) and freezing to death actually seems to take time. Frostfall is annoying when you constantly have to throw up a tent to stay alive and sit there while your character stares at her campfire and you stare at your phone. I know there were settings that could be adjusted, but it always just felt tedious. I didn't get that impression with survival mode.

 

@hakto Skyrim Revamped, Arena, Wildcat, Ultimate Combat. Problem is, in order to stay competitive with these mods on Legendary you end up doing what you'd have to do in vanilla, namely grinding alchemy, enchanting, and smithing. I'm on a big back-to-basics kick lately, and vanilla Legendary is hard enough for me for the first 30 levels at least.

[buxxuc30]

I have a problem with my player character. Sometimes when going to menu to save or inventory, the HDT SMP goes haywire like stretching out, and at times I see the screen flicker dark then bright, lagging the game for a bit before going back to normal. The game doesn't crash (yet) but it's pretty annoying. Anyone could tell me what would be the possible cause of this please? I play as a Breton, not sure if it has anything to do with it because I never had this problem playing Nord before.

[hakto]

3 hours ago, buxxuc30 said:

I have a problem with my player character. Sometimes when going to menu to save or inventory, the HDT SMP goes haywire like stretching out, and at times I see the screen flicker dark then bright, lagging the game for a bit before going back to normal. The game doesn't crash (yet) but it's pretty annoying. Anyone could tell me what would be the possible cause of this please? I play as a Breton, not sure if it has anything to do with it because I never had this problem playing Nord before.

I had something similar in the past, try to lock your fps to 60 or 59.9.

[buxxuc30]

48 minutes ago, hakto said:

I had something similar in the past, try to lock your fps to 60 or 59.9.

Thank you, though Im pretty sure I have my fps locked down to 60 in both Nvidia Inspector and Nvidia settings. I wonder if they don't apply?

[buxxuc30]

I just changed my PC to Nord and the HDT is no longer stretching our or making my PC invisible, but as a Breton I still get the previous issue, Anyone could give me a pointer please? It'd be much appreciated.

Edited February 24, 2022 by buxxuc30

[trgdolors]

@buxxuc30 This might not be much help, but KS Hairdos - HDT SMP (Physics) used to be part of this guide, but was dropped because of issues like this (stretched out hair). We went back to "KS Hairdos SSE". Then Faster HDT-SMP came out and there was hope we could get the hair (and other stuff) with physic finally working. I am not sure where that stands. There are actually a few other "hair with physics", etc. mods now.

 

BTW, there allegedly is a problem with the latest Faster HDT-SMP v.1.37. If you look at the files page the 1.37 DL now (I think it was added later) has a warning on it. I actually downgraded back to 1.36 out of caution. They were discussing Faster HDT-SMP on Reddit and one poster was arguing that everyone should be using that version 1.18 build. So I guess one could try that?

 

Edited February 24, 2022 by trgdolors

[buxxuc30]

30 minutes ago, trgdolors said:

@buxxuc30 This might not be much help, but KS Hairdos - HDT SMP (Physics) used to be part of this guide, but was dropped because of issues like this (stretched out hair). We went back to "KS Hairdos SSE". Then Faster HDT-SMP came out and there was hope we could get the hair (and other stuff) with physic finally working. I am not sure where that stands. There are actually a few other "hair with physics", etc. mods now.

 

BTW, there allegedly is a problem with the latest Faster HDT-SMP v.1.37. If you look at the files page the 1.37 DL now (I think it was added later) has a warning on it. I actually downgraded back to 1.36 out of caution. They were discussing Faster HDT-SMP on Reddit and one poster was arguing that everyone should be using that version 1.18 build. So I guess one could try that?

 

Thank you so much, I'm using KS Hairdos without SMP though and the standard HDT-SMP instead of Faster SMP, so I think they're not the culprit. It's weird, I'm using Tullius hair wig and it used to work fine before on my Nord character, but not on Breton.

[wollboi]

There's an update to the HIMBO pubic hair mod that'll hopefully fix the weird schlong texture bug. I think it's just for SE, so if somebody could try it out I'd appreciate it. I'm testing it on AE, but would not be surprised if it doesn't work for that.

[safado]

8 hours ago, buxxuc30 said:

I just changed my PC to Nord and the HDT is no longer stretching our or making my PC invisible, but as a Breton I still get the previous issue, Anyone could give me a pointer please? It'd be much appreciated.

 

Because of Breton tits always point to High Rock?

Spoiler

Joking

 

I notice a while back that "BretonRace: 00013741" do not have the attribute "Data\Body Biped Object" set, it is "none" and all others Nord, Redguard, Khajit, and all other shades mers do have that set to "32 - Body".  If only Breton has the issue and no other playable race, maybe it is related.

 

It is a wild guess, but could you create a patch override and add that value to the attribute in the BretonRace?

 

  The collection patch "Unofficial Skyrim Modder's Patch - USMP SE does include an override entry patching that attribute. You can try using that, but because of mods rolling back bugs it will need a conflict resolution Bash or Smash file.  Review with SSeEdit it is in the Skyrim.esm Race: formid 00013741 in the Data section, Body Biped Object attribute.

 

Edit:

 

It will be faster if I do the test patch:

Breton Override Test (load last).esp  It is Form44 ESL and only for testing the issue with Breton Race and oblivion stretch.

 

I recommend using FasterHDT 1.36 if the issue get resolved or during testing.   1.37 was moved to optional until issues get resolved.  AMD choose AVX2, Intel perhaps also AVX2.

 

Edited February 24, 2022 by safado

[buxxuc30]

12 hours ago, safado said:

 

Because of Breton tits always point to High Rock?

  Hide contents

Joking

 

I notice a while back that "BretonRace: 00013741" do not have the attribute "Data\Body Biped Object" set, it is "none" and all others Nord, Redguard, Khajit, and all other shades mers do have that set to "32 - Body".  If only Breton has the issue and no other playable race, maybe it is related.

 

It is a wild guess, but could you create a patch override and add that value to the attribute in the BretonRace?

 

  The collection patch "Unofficial Skyrim Modder's Patch - USMP SE does include an override entry patching that attribute. You can try using that, but because of mods rolling back bugs it will need a conflict resolution Bash or Smash file.  Review with SSeEdit it is in the Skyrim.esm Race: formid 00013741 in the Data section, Body Biped Object attribute.

 

Edit:

It will be faster if I do the test patch:

Breton Override Test (load last).esp  It is Form44 ESL and only for testing the issue with Breton Race and oblivion stretch.

 

 

 

Thank you thank you so much. I was too depressed I was about to give up but your post gave me hope!

 

I put the esp last in my load order (after Bashed Patch, I didn't feed it to Bashed Patch) but I still have that issue.
I tested with ASLAL in the first cell. Whenever I equip/unequip something the character just jumps like the picture, I think that's what cause the HDT to jump. It doesn't happen with a Nord character.

 

Here's some pictures of it.



 

Spoiler

 

loadorder.txt

Edited February 25, 2022 by buxxuc30
Putting pictures in spoiler

[Angelborn07]

So close to finishing the list, I just recently got the patches section done.  However, SDA SL Patch is causing my test character save to not be able to load.  Does that patch require a fresh save?  Or something went wrong?  I also tried to start a new character just in case, but found I have a different issue with that.  When I start a new game, it goes to the Alternate Start area, and gives me the character creation like it's supposed to, but the moment I try to change the gender, the game freezes and stops responding.  Not exactly certain which of the mods might be doing that one, any suggestions?  Thanks for any and all help everyone!

[jaeos]

4 minutes ago, Angelborn07 said:

So close to finishing the list, I just recently got the patches section done.  However, SDA SL Patch is causing my test character save to not be able to load.  Does that patch require a fresh save?  Or something went wrong?  I also tried to start a new character just in case, but found I have a different issue with that.  When I start a new game, it goes to the Alternate Start area, and gives me the character creation like it's supposed to, but the moment I try to change the gender, the game freezes and stops responding.  Not exactly certain which of the mods might be doing that one, any suggestions?  Thanks for any and all help everyone!

I'll answer the second first. 

the game doesn't exactly freeze, but that's splitting hairs. switch to argonian then switch gender then back to your preferred race, The game engine has issues loading all of the options that were added all at once (700 hair styles, 300 eye colors, 100ish tattoos (for me), so it gets a little overwhelmed and it takes it's own time getting it worked out, but if you use a custom race or just switch to argonians and then back to your race its easier for it. 

Now the first. 

I've only used the rdo-sde patch version name as 4.0rdo patch. but it shouldn't have an issue with your save at all. But i use a different version of serana altogether. so.. ymmv

[jaeos]

2 hours ago, buxxuc30 said:

 

Thank you thank you so much. I was too depressed I was about to give up but your post gave me hope!

 

I put the esp last in my load order (after Bashed Patch, I didn't feed it to Bashed Patch) but I still have that issue.
I tested with ASLAL in the first cell. Whenever I equip/unequip something the character just jumps like the picture, I think that's what cause the HDT to jump. It doesn't happen with a Nord character.

I'm not knocking your post. BUT.. screenshots into spoilers. Please.

Do you have ANY mods not exclusive to this guide that deal with combat/ragdolls/force? I have never had an issue playing Breton like what you are describing, and since it is a problem you alone (I THINK) seem to be having, it's something in your LO, and the esp list (load order) may not be enough to diagnose it. can you also post the modlist.txt (should be in the same place as the load order.)

Edited February 25, 2022 by jaeos