guide Skyrim SE for Beginners - V 3.2.6 (Outdated)

[alaunus01]

4 hours ago, Bricks said:

[...]Any major issues I should be aware of? 

 

@Aylis still is reckovering from health issues so the guide is PRE-AE. A version of this guide incorporating the whole of AE (i.e. anything besides the free upgrade) will get its own thread when it is happening. Which will not happen anytime soon. Basically this has to happen first: One of the must have basic mods decides it absolutely requires all of AE at some point and the requirements cascade down. Happened with any of the oldrim DLCs and will happen again.

@wollboi made some early tests about AE compability and as far as I understand it at this point you can make the guide kinda work.

[Varithina]

4 hours ago, unknownwake said:

-My biggest fuck up with my old install was probably related to auto-saving. I'd hit that continue button without even thinking. Is there room on the list for something that would completely disable those fuckers? Or alternately to remove the "Continue" button from the main menu?

 

Continue goes from the last save made, which may or may not be an autosave, though there are options in the games main menu to stop saving on resting and such, not too sure if it affects the save on exit though, had the same problem myself a few times autosave would either not load or ctd the game, the exact same save but done manually just before I exited the game worked fine, never did figure out why, but it was not a major problem for me.  There did use to be a mod that disabled save on exit on nexus though damned if I can find it, though that might have been on le.

[Madigan-]

Okay - Im just going through Patches and seem to have hit a wall - the game seems stable up to this point I have reached, but instead of one particular patch it seems adding anything beyond this causes the save game corruption

 

Just adding the 3 skyrim reptuation mods, or the 5 USMP mods or QUASIPC (which adds several esps) all seem to cause the issue.  

Ive seen mention of esp limit, and getting esls instead where possible - is there a way of knowing if you've gone over this or is it something else?

 

[manafalls]

@Madigan- hover over where it says "421" active plugins in MO2 (in the upper right of your screenshot). It will give you a breakdown and tell you how many of those 421 plugins are esp+esm plugins, which is the number that matters.

[Madigan-]

21 minutes ago, manafalls said:

@Madigan- hover over where it says "421" active plugins in MO2 (in the upper right of your screenshot). It will give you a breakdown and tell you how many of those 421 plugins are esp+esm plugins, which is the number that matters.

 

[jaeos]

4 hours ago, Madigan- said:

Okay - Im just going through Patches and seem to have hit a wall - the game seems stable up to this point I have reached, but instead of one particular patch it seems adding anything beyond this causes the save game corruption

 

Just adding the 3 skyrim reptuation mods, or the 5 USMP mods or QUASIPC (which adds several esps) all seem to cause the issue.  

Ive seen mention of esp limit, and getting esls instead where possible - is there a way of knowing if you've gone over this or is it something else?

 

As @manafallsstated hover over the active plug-ins and it will give you several numbers

Spoiler

esl do not matter for this. esm+esp is what matters. Ideally you want less than 254. i've added enough mods that i skirt this all the time. but i see that your screen shows a 2 in the alert box. one is probably missing masters. second is you probably have things in overwrite. Fix those as well. 

 

edit: for the record i do not have any of those patches, never even downloaded them for reputation. or for usmp only patcher i have is quinn's and i only have 5 patches from it.

Edited February 28, 2022 by jaeos

[Decopauge123]

@Aylis HDT-SMP, an skse plugin allowing more advanced physics interactions to be applied to actors via configuration files, hasn't been updated in over 2 years.

 

Consider Faster HDT-SMP  - faster physics for capes, clothes, hair, etc, was first posted last October and is being actively developed/maintained.  It provides "... massively improve performance over HDT-SMP. This makes a huge difference as it allows for things like animated guard capes, clothes, hair, etc. without breaking your FPS every time you approach a city or a group of imperials/stormcloaks!:

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Decopauge123

[unknownwake]

18 hours ago, Varithina said:

 

Continue goes from the last save made, which may or may not be an autosave, though there are options in the games main menu to stop saving on resting and such, not too sure if it affects the save on exit though, had the same problem myself a few times autosave would either not load or ctd the game, the exact same save but done manually just before I exited the game worked fine, never did figure out why, but it was not a major problem for me.  There did use to be a mod that disabled save on exit on nexus though damned if I can find it, though that might have been on le.

 

Thanks for this info. I'm still seeing Autosaves after I disabled all the in-game menu stuff but I haven't played around with this build for very long yet. Sounds like I might want to take the time to learn a little bit more about MO2 and write myself a script that clears out autosaves on boot. 

 

As for  SKSE extensions-- took another look and nothing in this section requires .NET script framework so I'm skipping it entirely. @wollboi have you seen any issues further down the list without it? 

[Varithina]

1 hour ago, unknownwake said:

 

Thanks for this info. I'm still seeing Autosaves after I disabled all the in-game menu stuff but I haven't played around with this build for very long yet. Sounds like I might want to take the time to learn a little bit more about MO2 and write myself a script that clears out autosaves on boot. 

 

As for  SKSE extensions-- took another look and nothing in this section requires .NET script framework so I'm skipping it entirely. @wollboi have you seen any issues further down the list without it? 

I do not run this list, the version I have is quite a few versions back, and has quite a few of my own items added to it, there again, I now have problems with bodyslide not even working, it starts up, but does not actually do anything, there again, even with updating to the ae version of se blocked, and working for some time, the last reboot I did updated the dame game, so now having to see what the hell is going on, so at present no working se install at all.

 

Edit, I have the vague memory that one of the mods in the list, the one that allows you to change the way in game time runs, also has autosaves in various situations, they can be disabled, but are enabled by default, there again it could be one of the mods I added myself, not too sure.

Edited March 1, 2022 by Varithina

[wollboi]

@unknownwake The author of that mod has said that they will not be updating it for AE. The game won't load if you have it enabled. I've turned it off. Pretty sure somebody else will come along and duplicate it for the future.

[ascendentkunglao]

I just changed my primary skin replacer from Diamond Skin to Dibellan- True Skin, holy moly! Check it out here.   Just using Pi-Cho ENB...

 

Edited March 2, 2022 by ascendentkunglao

[Hestias Nemesis]

16 hours ago, wollboi said:

@unknownwake The author of that mod has said that they will not be updating it for AE. The game won't load if you have it enabled. I've turned it off. Pretty sure somebody else will come along and duplicate it for the future.

By now they've changed it to "I will port plugin to anniversary edition myself when I consider the plugin could running on AE stably enough.", as you can check on their profile. Just to bring that up to date though, as I doubt they will consider it that way any time soon though, considering around the AE release they stated they would never do it and any AE port is explicitly forbidden. Who knows though

[wollboi]

1 hour ago, Hestias Nemesis said:

By now they've changed it to "I will port plugin to anniversary edition myself when I consider the plugin could running on AE stably enough.", as you can check on their profile. Just to bring that up to date though, as I doubt they will consider it that way any time soon though, considering around the AE release they stated they would never do it and any AE port is explicitly forbidden. Who knows though

Ah, hadn't seen that. That's good(ish) news.

[Xamdir]

Thank you for your work . I haven't installed it yet, but I've found a few things: (Optional) Font Overhaul - Natural Typefaces for Skyrim - FONTS SkyUI
This mod turns all letters into cubes. This is a "Cathedral Landscapes" requirement for "Disable Snow Grass - For Vanilla and Cathedral Landscapes", "Misc. Blended Road Fixes" but is not on the list. For now, I installed it under "Misc. Blended Road Fixes."
MajesticMountains.esp had to be cleaned, and to run the groups temporarily (as you advised at first, override, quest, etc.) you need to install and run FNIS and alternate start.
I'm at armor now. Some mods require a specific version of enb, but this is not the case. No need for enb?
This is the enb version installed in the base game.

[Bricks]

Hey ya'll animation trouble question. 

So I've been setting up a new LO using this as a basis. I'm pretty much done, I AM doing it on AE, which means there are a few (3 I believe) forced cuts, as well as a few other cuts I made simply due to personal preference. But my animation setup should be pretty much identical to "stock" this list. 
I got all the way down to where it was time to do FNIS/Nemesis, no issues. I will note that I've had nemesis installed for testing purposes this whole time, as one of the other mods requires it be present to prevent a crash on load. And up to that point, all my tests pass. I would finish the cart ride and char creation no problem. Curiously, the game animated like normal too, which was strange in hindsight seeing as I didn't RUN nemesis, but I digress. 

So I did the disable all, run FNIS, move to mod, Disable FNIS, Enable Nemesis, Run nemesis, move to mod tango. Suddenly my char is stuck t-posed. 
Curious, so I remove it all and run again. Same issue. T-pose. A
So I remove all and revert to the last known "good" state, no outputs, nothing in overwrite, and a fresh install of nemesis active, but not run. No dice, still T-posed. Somehow, having attempted to run the animation apps has disabled animations in their entirety even without outputs. Is this something anybody has knowledge of and can advise on? Very curious indeed.

 

EDIT: AT least for now, issue solved (figures, right after I post). Leaving this here for others to see in case they go looking. 

No idea why this solved it, but what I did that finally made it work was: 
Deactivate ZAZ and all that depended on it
Run Nemesis
Deactivate Nemesis
Activate FNIS
Run FNIS
Deactivate FNIS

And then it worked, from there I reactivated ZAZ, ran the usual FNIS -> Nemesis loop, and all was well. no idea why this fixed but hey. 

Edited March 4, 2022 by Bricks

[Xamdir]

The "Lanterns Of Skyrim II" installer does not have a "LoS II - Tamriel Master Lights" and "LoS II - TML - Guard Armor Replacer patch" options. This is in the 5 points of the "Weather and Lighting" Group.

[Xamdir]

This link does not exist: Dynamic Volumetric Lighting and Sun Shadows. it is replaced by: https: //www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/63725/? tab = files .Weather and Lighting group from the guide.
This is also good ?

[wollboi]

@Xamdir Those two patches for LoS2 were folded into the main mod, so you don't need to worry about them now. As for EVLaS, it *should* work but I haven't tried it yet. If you do, let us know how it goes.

[unknownwake]

On 2/28/2022 at 10:47 PM, Varithina said:

I do not run this list, the version I have is quite a few versions back, and has quite a few of my own items added to it, there again, I now have problems with bodyslide not even working, it starts up, but does not actually do anything, there again, even with updating to the ae version of se blocked, and working for some time, the last reboot I did updated the dame game, so now having to see what the hell is going on, so at present no working se install at all.

 

Edit, I have the vague memory that one of the mods in the list, the one that allows you to change the way in game time runs, also has autosaves in various situations, they can be disabled, but are enabled by default, there again it could be one of the mods I added myself, not too sure.

I've also had issues with PC and NPC bodies in the past and was the reason I'm updating my install now. Bodies and of course sexlab animations but we'll see how that shakes out. 

[Varithina]

6 hours ago, unknownwake said:

I've also had issues with PC and NPC bodies in the past and was the reason I'm updating my install now. Bodies and of course sexlab animations but we'll see how that shakes out. 

 

In game the stuff works fine, I just can not now run body-slide, no idea why though, the program as I said starts up, but you can not change to the program nor do anything with it, but it shows as there and running in the task manager and the bar at the bottom of the screen with all your current running programs on it, hopefully, when I finally finish updating for ae with everything it will start working again, or it could be something to do with windows 10 updates that are stopping it, though firewall and antivirus pass through's are still in place and working as far as I can tell.

[DarkDragoon197]

@Aylis i can confirm i got all mods in this list to work in AE, i did change out a few couse they'll never be updated.

 

Replaced

additemmenu with QUI-SKSE

hdt-smp with Faster HTD SMP

 

mods removed due to no AE update

 

TK dodge

stay at the system page

net script framework

armor rating redux

 

I hope this helps you in the future

[ascendentkunglao]

Hey everyone, has anyone got into tuning their CBPC Collision ini?  I was using the PDF guide and wanted to ask what you guys do to improve the settings if the hands actually clip through the breast of my PC during idle animations.  Do I increase or decrease the radius?  What are your guys tips?

[Aylis]

3 hours ago, DarkDragoon197 said:

I hope this helps you in the future

This will be helpful. Thanks a lot.

[Madigan-]

Hi All

 

So am up and running and been immersed in all things Skyrim the last few days, only a few issues so far but if anyone can help out please let me know

 

- the trees are all far off in the distance thanks to DynDOLOD, but grass I can see getting drawn in front of me as I move - I assume this is in the Skyrim.ini (which truth be told I just plonked the one supplied here into \Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\) or is it something else? *

- the dialogue options sometimes change - think Ive fixed this now by adding the RDO patch but still goes a bit wonky - usually the wanting to buy or wanting to trade is there when you first click on them but disappears by the time you go to press it to be replaced by SLEN, also when you want to use SLEN that sometimes disappears from the options

- black face (can live with this as its only affected Ralof and Balgruff so far) did try removing the two texture mods I have for males but get rid of it)

 

Besides that am loving it so far - I played skyrim to death back in the day - but with the overhaulls to Bleak Falls, Embershard, Cities etc plus the change of music it feels very fresh and exciting again.

 

Cheers

 

* Just to add, I don't have the option for Grass in DynDOLOD like there is on the screenshot supplied here in the instructions 

 

 

Edited March 6, 2022 by Madigan-

[wollboi]

Here are a few more things I've found with regards to swapping to AE. Some of this will mirror @DarkDragoon197.

 

Foundation

* Better Dynamic Ash - Has moved to https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/54754 . I've tested this in VR, but not AE. I imagine it works fine though.

* Majestic Mountains - There's a patch for Bloodchill Manor that is needed. Right now, MM will obscure the entrance to the cave that was added through CC. You have to enable no-clip to get to it. I haven't added it to my load order because I really don't care about it, but I imagine it's fine.

 

SKSE Extensions

* A lot of these don't work but can still be left in the load order. I have a pretty stable build and the ones that don't work don't hurt to leave in. The only exception is .NET Framework, which will prevent the game from launching.

* ENB Helper - There's a new version that is a separate download from the SE version. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23174?tab=files

* JContainers - The mod has been removed due to the Ukraine/Russia war. While I support the mod author (and Ukraine) entirely, this will completely invalidate the load order. JContainers was one of the mods that I was waiting for the longest to be updated. For a while, you had to download the beta version on the author's website (or Patreon? I can't remember). The beta version worked fine, so if that's still available then I'd go for that. Like I said, I respect the author's wishes of course, but the load order will be dead in the water without the update. Off the top of my head, Aroused Creatures, SlaveTats, and of course XP32 will not work without it.

* Address Library - AE has a separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444?tab=files

* Animation Motion Revolution - Separate AE download. PLEASE get this, as it fixes an extremely annoying bug that causes VERY frequent crashes with JK's mods (particularly the shops in Whiterun). https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444?tab=files

* SPID - AE has a separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36869?tab=files

* Better Jumping - Needs to be updated. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18967?tab=files

* FEC - Still doesn't work, but fine to leave in.

* Papyrus Extender - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22854?tab=files

* Private Profile Redistributor - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18860?tab=files

* Skyrim Priority - Requires update. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/50129?tab=files

* Display Tweaks - Requires update. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34705?tab=files

* Splashes of Skyrim - Requires update. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/47710?tab=files

* Stay at the System Page - Still not working, fine to leave in.

 

UI

* Fix Note Icon - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32561?tab=files

* moreHUD - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12688?tab=files

* moreHUD Inventory Edition - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18619?tab=files

* RaceMenu - Requires update. Thanks fuck this is available on Nexus now. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19080?tab=files

* Improved Camera - Not working sadly and the author hasn't responded on Reddit in about a year. I think this one is dead in the water unless there's an update I don't know about. I REALLY hope we don't have to go back to JOP.

* Alternate Conversion Camera - Not part of the list, but a lot of people here use it. Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21220?tab=files

* MCM Helper - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/53000?tab=files

* TDM - Not part of the list, but a lot of people use it. Separate download. Has a TON of great new features for third-person players. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/51614?tab=files

* TrueHUD - Not part of the list. Now a requirement for TDM. Works fine with the other HUD mods. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/62775

 

PC

* Schlongs of Skyrim - Requires new mod or a patch to the old one. Whichever you go with, you can find it here at LL. I tested both and they both seem to work, but the full replacement one took longer to update so I just went with the patched version.

 

Physics & Animation

* DAR - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/33746?tab=files

* Smooth mods - There are a lot of new ones, particularly the weapon equip ones, that look really nice and fit with the list fine.

* Faster HDT-SMP - Replaces HDT-SMP. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57339

 

Overwrite

* Go to Bed - Separate download. MCM is completely different (do the opposite of what you would usually do when selecting clothing to automatically remove). OF NOTE FOR ALL VERSIONS is that if you're like me and do a lot of enchantments sometimes the automatic removal and putting-back-on of clothes will NOT apply your enchantments after they're removed and put back on. You have to manually unequip and re-equip to get the enchantments to apply. I think this is a problem with Skyrim not automatically applying static effects, as the same happens in vanilla when you get the Necromage perk. The same holds true for Dirt and Blood if you automatically disrobe. Doesn't happen always, but is super annoying when a giant is suddenly handing you your ass where before you were one-shotting Kaarstag. What I do is hot-key all the armor that I wear, then just remove it manually through SkyUI. Sounds annoying, but really only takes like two seconds. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4224?tab=files

* Go to Bed AE Patches - Separate download, same link.

* Violens - Requires update. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/668?tab=files

 

LIghting

* DVLaSS - I haven't tried EDVLaSS yet, but the mod is removed.

* Rudy ENB Required Files - Required update. Works a little differently now than the list says. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/39113?tab=files

 

Pr0n

* Sexlab Framework - New download for AE. Game will crash without it. Works just like the old version.

Spoiler

 

* DynDOLOD DLL - Replaces Papyrus DLL. Works just like the old one. DynDOLOD 3.0 will basically not run without it. Requires some tinkering. Just follow listed instructions. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57264

* Mfg Fix - Separate download. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669?tab=files

 

Patches

* JK's Interior Patch Collection - Requires update, as there are a lot of geometry that changed with AE. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/35910

* JK's Skyrim-Gray Cowl of Norturnal Patch - New requirement. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6289

* Water for ENB - Pretty sure requires update. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/37061?tab=files

* Nether's Follower Framework - Not on the list, but I know a lot of people use it and I've started coming around to it to. That being said, it does not work well with AE. I get freezes a lot, where before adding it I would get maybe one CTD per week with my build. Seems to get worse as you progress longer into a playthrough. Still completely functional, but be aware of all the bugs. If you use it, maybe do without it for a while. A TRICK I FOUND (and by I found, I mean I found in a Reddit post from three years ago. If your game freezes, normally you need to CTRL+ALT+DELETE and reboot your machine, which sucks. But there's a way around this that keeps you from having to reboot.

Spoiler

After it freezes, enter CTRL+ALT+DELETE. On the new screen, click Task Manager. The screen will either go back to Skyrim or go black. That's fine. ALT+TAB until Task Manager is highlighted. Type the word "Sky". No indication will be given that it's doing this, but it is. Then press Delete. Skyrim will close/crash, and you'll be back to your desktop. A hell of a lot less annoying than having to reboot.

 

Final

* 3BBB - Needs update. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/30174?tab=files

* Thankfully FNIS, Nemesis, Bodyslide, and Wrye all work as normal.