Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[Mister X]

12 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

You're right. If I add a hint, I don't want it to be a quest log update. The quest log should be a collection of observations by the player, I don't want it to be a dynamic guide. Her sending a courier would make more sense.

Maybe, as a trade-off, let her send a courier not when her chosen time is up but when the MCM max days are reached. Maybe she doesn't want to spend too much money for advertisement or she fears that you might "loose" the belt to some bandits or ...

 

Like this, you still can't be sure if she would free you earlier but you get the reminder, when the max days are reached. And that's no hint, as you chose the max days 

[Laura]

19 hours ago, worik said:

Maybe keep it in mind for future radiant quests. ? Especially the radient ones can always gain from another variable => with the idea to add more possible variations in each run

I don't know I'll add a disposition system for her, but it could be fun for a quest npc. ?

 

 

19 hours ago, Reesewow said:

Spoiler

 

Random idea for this - 

 

 

One option that may be a interesting as a "hint" could be using the notifications area to expose the PC's thoughts on how long the belt has been on vs how long they think Laura would want it to stay on. 

 

Something a player could use to gauge if it is likely "too soon", and notice for when when they've exceeded the max possible time (so removal would be guaranteed).  It could also make wearing the belt a bit more fun and remind you of it being on regularly (in more ways that in already does), and be another option where you could shape the player's opinions of Laura a bit more directly (through the wording of the notifications).

 

 

I'm thinking the notifications would essentially let you be aware when you've passed the minimum time passed, and then increments of the difference between minimum and maximum time passed, and finally let you know that you've passed the max possible time and it would be 100% safe to ask for release.  They could be set to print every 24 hours or so, and each "level" could have multiple versions with similar tone, and it would be up to the player to interpret the lines as to if it would be worth a trip to Laura's to ask for release.

 

They could be themed as the PC's thoughts on her situation, and her trying to gauge how long Laura may want her to wear the belt.  Some brainstorm ideas below as to what these might look like:

 

Min time passed:  "I know it hasn't been that long... but maybe Laura only wanted a short session?  I'm already feeling a bit pent up...."

 

50% of the way between min and max:  "I'm starting to get a bit desperate here.... I know it is risky, but perhaps I could ask..."

 

85% of the way to max:  "It's been so long, surely time is up?  She wouldn't want me to endure longer, would she?"

 

100% of the max:  "There's no way Laura won't let me out, I've been such a good girl...  I should visit her soon."

 

 

 

 

So you'd not really know if you had waited long enough most of the time (even at 85%, you might have gotten unlucky and rolled a 95/100 and be too early), but if you wait until your character is "certain" it has been long enough you will be guaranteed to get the belt off.  If the PC is engaged in this type of play with Laura, I feel she probably has some insight into Laura's personality and how long the "maximum" belt time would be. 

 

I also think it would be a bit odd for Laura to send a courier letting the player know time is up - I think it would be more likely that she'd assume the player is enjoying the belt and doesn't want it off, and that's why they haven't asked yet.

 

 

That could work, but I don't think that I'll add hints. Implementing something like this also means that I have to redo how the timer works. Right now, there is no actual timer script running. The days needed is calculated when you start the quest and the current day is saved. It will only check when you talk to her by comparing the started day and the days needed. I can't add notifications without using a timer script that runs in the background.

 

 

18 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

This makes sense to me.  Why would Laura go to the trouble to send a courier to track you down if you're having such a good time?  I like Reesewow's suggestions for notifications.  They're not giving anything away, just helping you track the time.  A suggestion for 25% might be "It's killing me knowing I could ask for release any time now.  It's all I can think about.  Should I?  Maybe I should wait a little longer, I can do it."

 

The point of a bondage game is not knowing when to ask, with the frustration in knowing that the safer you play it, the longer you probably stayed locked up needlessly.  If you wait until the max duration, you can be sure to get a smirk from Laura as she unlocks you, suggesting that you stayed locked up days longer than you had to.  Of course she'll never tell you what the real duration was, just part of the fun, and she'll assume that no matter what you say you secretly enjoyed it since you chose to go so long.  Actions speak louder than words. 

 

It's really up to the player.  Set the min and max for the experience you want, a lot of guessing or a little.

I like the idea of giving her different responses depending on how long you wore it. That would be fun.

 

 

17 hours ago, llokii70 said:

Yes but not knowing at all is part of the mindf*&k. BDSM is after 90% mental and 10% physical. So I get laura's point

 

17 hours ago, llokii70 said:

It's telling someone something....getting them to really believe it and playing mindgames....is she going to leave me in for good or is she going to release me....

You're right. To me it's about knowing that she'll eventually release you, but you don't want to run the risk of asking too early.

 

 

7 hours ago, Mister X said:

Maybe, as a trade-off, let her send a courier not when her chosen time is up but when the MCM max days are reached. Maybe she doesn't want to spend too much money for advertisement or she fears that you might "loose" the belt to some bandits or ...

 

Like this, you still can't be sure if she would free you earlier but you get the reminder, when the max days are reached. And that's no hint, as you chose the max days 

If I add a hint, I think it would be a courier. She could send it because she's worried or because she doesn't want to torment you for too long.

 

 

 

 

I probably won't add a hint for the timer, but that doesn't mean I don't want your suggestions. Keep them coming.

[worik]

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I don't know I'll add a disposition system for her, but it could be fun for a quest npc. ? 

The would be fun

Spoiler

I must confess I love games with "character" variables that can be shifted by player actions... especially in the most cruel form when they contradict each other or come with a downside. E.g. "reading a book" enhances intelligence but slightly lowers physical stamina.

 

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I can't add notifications without using a timer script that runs in the background.

So we would need a certain event that triggers the computation ?

Letting my mind float a bit

Spoiler

I imagine the PC in frustation, wanting the belt away but afraid to ask. We could use some self-thinking notifications here

Now, we invent a "proxy" Something like an oracle or a certain shrine? A ghost? A prayer? Making use of the campfire mod and looking into the flames? This is the activator for the computation, hidden behind some message box. Though it would need a cost to prevent abuse. E.g. something like a sacrifice? An expensive one!

 

If the time is still running, nothing happens at all. If the sacrifice was not enough, nothing happens. If the time is done AND the sacrifice was good enough, we add another random timer (the difficulty or the value of the sacifice sets the random range) and THEN the courier is triggered.

The current computation method can stay in place. We just add another path to let the PC know. A mysterious path

 

All that would mean a bunch of work but it might add some spooky flavor if we get it right. I'm thinking along the lines of

"The player believes/plays to have some control, when in fact the whole thing adds just another level of uncertainty until the message is received."

 

Take it as another gimmick

 

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I like the idea of giving her different responses depending on how long you wore it. That would be fun. 

? Flavor! Variation!

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Keep them coming.

You asked for it

[Taki17]

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I don't know I'll add a disposition system for her, but it could be fun for a quest npc. ? 

I believe I've recommended this one before, but Skyrim supports disposition by default in the form of relationship ranks. So you don't even have to reinvent the wheel on this one.

[Laura]

22 minutes ago, Taki17 said:

I believe I've recommended this one before, but Skyrim supports disposition by default in the form of relationship ranks. So you don't even have to reinvent the wheel on this one.

I forgot about that.

[AbyssalReClass]

Hello all, first time poster. I recently picked up this mod and played around with it, and I really like it. Though I've got some thoughts on the What she deserves quest.

 

It seems to me that once everything plays out in the cage, Laura and Katarina are quite unapologetic about what happened. The only thing that keeps the player from being enslaved is Laura deciding you should probably get some food. I would consider not checking the identity of someone you are about to ship off to someone who they know will degrade, humiliate, and mistreat them to be a pretty major screw-up, and the PC very well could (and rightfully so) completely destroy their reputation and their business, especially if the PC has already been given the title of Thane of Whiterun (which I imagine many will have).

 

At the end of that quest and as the story continues, Laura and Katarina should be doing everything in their power to make it up to the player and rebuild the trust that the player would have lost for them. Perhaps they could start with an offer of the existing reward (750 gold), and the player would have the option of declining the gold and brushing it off, calling them out and demanding more, or just denouncing them and leaving the store (in which case if they come back later on they'd apologize again and asking what the player wants from them).

 

Potential player demands could range from something like a substantial amount of gold (With Laura and/or Katarina having to wear a belt with a plug until it is paid, a nice role reversal for more dominant PCs), a permanent discount on goods and services (perhaps having restraints the player gets into unlocked for free or something similar), taking Katarina with you as a follower, or even the player taking ownership of the pair and by extension, the store (this would give the player a cut of the profits in the form of a small passive income, follower services from Katarina, and the ability to do sessions with Laura). They would accept the small or medium payback options without much or any argument, but at this stage the larger ones would take some convincing.

 

If more branching options are developed for the story line and the PC does happen to get shipped off by mistake and has to escape, then Laura and Katarina would obviously would be horrified by the outcome when the PC makes it back and would be more willing to accept the larger payback options without needing to be coaxed as much.

 

Anyway, that's just my thoughts, I very much look forward to the next update and seeing how the story continues.

 

Edit: spelling and formatting

[walkin]

4 minutes ago, TRD9468 said:

 

Hi, pedоs!

 

 

Get a life jackoff!!!!!!!!!

[Laura]

15 hours ago, AbyssalReClass said:

Hello all, first time poster. I recently picked up this mod and played around with it, and I really like it. Though I've got some thoughts on the What she deserves quest.

 

It seems to me that once everything plays out in the cage, Laura and Katarina are quite unapologetic about what happened. The only thing that keeps the player from being enslaved is Laura deciding you should probably get some food. I would consider not checking the identity of someone you are about to ship off to someone who they know will degrade, humiliate, and mistreat them to be a pretty major screw-up, and the PC very well could (and rightfully so) completely destroy their reputation and their business, especially if the PC has already been given the title of Thane of Whiterun (which I imagine many will have).

 

At the end of that quest and as the story continues, Laura and Katarina should be doing everything in their power to make it up to the player and rebuild the trust that the player would have lost for them. Perhaps they could start with an offer of the existing reward (750 gold), and the player would have the option of declining the gold and brushing it off, calling them out and demanding more, or just denouncing them and leaving the store (in which case if they come back later on they'd apologize again and asking what the player wants from them).

 

Potential player demands could range from something like a substantial amount of gold (With Laura and/or Katarina having to wear a belt with a plug until it is paid, a nice role reversal for more dominant PCs), a permanent discount on goods and services (perhaps having restraints the player gets into unlocked for free or something similar), taking Katarina with you as a follower, or even the player taking ownership of the pair and by extension, the store (this would give the player a cut of the profits in the form of a small passive income, follower services from Katarina, and the ability to do sessions with Laura). They would accept the small or medium payback options without much or any argument, but at this stage the larger ones would take some convincing.

 

If more branching options are developed for the story line and the PC does happen to get shipped off by mistake and has to escape, then Laura and Katarina would obviously would be horrified by the outcome when the PC makes it back and would be more willing to accept the larger payback options without needing to be coaxed as much.

 

Anyway, that's just my thoughts, I very much look forward to the next update and seeing how the story continues.

 

Edit: spelling and formatting

You're right. What they did was terrible, but I don't want to delay the update by too much. I'll see if I can add something small that addresses this.

[Mister X]

7 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

You're right. What they did was terrible, but I don't want to delay the update by too much. I'll see if I can add something small that addresses this.

I like that story and I have to agree, it's basically careless to grossly negligent by them not to check the identity. 

 

Maybe this or sth alike could be a possibility for the 3.0 or 4.0 update? 

[MadWhitWolf]

19 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

You're right. What they did was terrible, but I don't want to delay the update by too much. I'll see if I can add something small that addresses this. 

Release soon ?

[Laura]

16 hours ago, Mister X said:

I like that story and I have to agree, it's basically careless to grossly negligent by them not to check the identity. 

 

Maybe this or sth alike could be a possibility for the 3.0 or 4.0 update? 

The next update will continue the WSD story, so there'll be quests that take place after that. I added extra dialogue to adress it and I hope that it'll be enough.

 

4 hours ago, MadWhitWolf said:

Release soon ?

It's probably ready for release this month.

[twsnider1138]

Hi Laura, glad to hear the holiday was fun. I have a request regarding the inflatable plugs, assuming you’re the creator of course. Is it possible to either tone down the power of the blasted things or be able to actually deflate it? I was talking to the Greybeards at zero arousal and ended up having to force masturbation like three times before they were done. And that was with only like three squeezes beforehand. Between it’s arousal rate, it’s tendency to “accidentally” inflate, and the inabilty to deflate it, it really is kind of a game breaker. Thank you very kindly.

[Laura]

14 minutes ago, twsnider1138 said:

Hi Laura, glad to hear the holiday was fun. I have a request regarding the inflatable plugs, assuming you’re the creator of course. Is it possible to either tone down the power of the blasted things or be able to actually deflate it? I was talking to the Greybeards at zero arousal and ended up having to force masturbation like three times before they were done. And that was with only like three squeezes beforehand. Between it’s arousal rate, it’s tendency to “accidentally” inflate, and the inabilty to deflate it, it really is kind of a game breaker. Thank you very kindly.

They're from Devious Devices Integration. My mod doesn't add devices with custom scripts, I use regular devices for the shop's stock and devices with slightly altered properties for quests.

Try asking in the DDi thread. I can't help you, sorry.

[twsnider1138]

 

34 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

They're from Devious Devices Integration. My mod doesn't add devices with custom scripts, I use regular devices for the shop's stock and devices with slightly altered properties for quests.

Try asking in the DDi thread. I can't help you, sorry.

Ok no worries, I shall ask there. Thank you very kindly for the quick response.

[swords and sandals]

1 hour ago, twsnider1138 said:

I was talking to the Greybeards

 

Greybeard robes are missing the vanilla keyword ClothingBody, which, along with determining the type of enchantments that can be placed on an item, tells the game that they hide nudity. (ArmorCuirass is the equivalent for armour.) That means SL Aroused treats all the Greybeards as naked and their and your arousal will soar whenever you're around them.

[twsnider1138]

2 minutes ago, merManc said:

 

Greybeard robes are missing the vanilla keyword ClothingBody, which, along with determining the type of enchantments that can be placed on an item, tells the game that they hide nudity. (ArmorCuirass is the equivalent for armour.) That means SL Aroused treats all the Greybeards as naked and their and your arousal will soar whenever you're around them.

BUAHAHAHAHA, oh wow that is a hilarious oversight. Ok thank you for the heads up.

[darktej]

18 minutes ago, merManc said:

 

Greybeard robes are missing the vanilla keyword ClothingBody, which, along with determining the type of enchantments that can be placed on an item, tells the game that they hide nudity. (ArmorCuirass is the equivalent for armour.) That means SL Aroused treats all the Greybeards as naked and their and your arousal will soar whenever you're around them.

lol all these years I was wondering...why my player character would get so aroused when going to High Hrothgar. Damn those horny monks!

[Laura]

1 hour ago, merManc said:

 

Greybeard robes are missing the vanilla keyword ClothingBody, which, along with determining the type of enchantments that can be placed on an item, tells the game that they hide nudity. (ArmorCuirass is the equivalent for armour.) That means SL Aroused treats all the Greybeards as naked and their and your arousal will soar whenever you're around them.

I knew it, those sluts are naked under their clothes. ?

[Taki17]

Well. Never would've thought I'd ever find an appropriate use for a mans1ay3r clip in this thread.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[shadowwolf2k7]

got an idea you might like. if the player buys any items from laura she could ask the player "would you like help with putting those on?" and the player would have the option to say yes, which will have the item equipped, or no which the item will be put into the inventory as normal. if the player is gagged she could say, "i see that you are having fun wearing items, lets go a head and add these new items as well" the player could say yes (a nod) or no (shakes head) and the items would be equipped or placed in the inventory.

[Laura]

On 7/6/2019 at 1:19 AM, shadowwolf2k7 said:

got an idea you might like. if the player buys any items from laura she could ask the player "would you like help with putting those on?" and the player would have the option to say yes, which will have the item equipped, or no which the item will be put into the inventory as normal. if the player is gagged she could say, "i see that you are having fun wearing items, lets go a head and add these new items as well" the player could say yes (a nod) or no (shakes head) and the items would be equipped or placed in the inventory.

I really like that idea, but I have no clue how to do that yet.

I'll probably have to check the player's inventory before the trade, save what kind and how many devices the player has and then compare that after the trade is over. I think I have to use an array for that and I have no clue how those work.

[naaitsab]

7 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I really like that idea, but I have no clue how to do that yet.

I'll probably have to check the player's inventory before the trade, save what kind and how many devices the player has and then compare that after the trade is over. I think I have to use an array for that and I have no clue how those work.

Might not be the best/effective way but you could to try something like this:

Add a script to the alias of the player (tip check the MCM menu playerref script)

 

In the script add the following:

OnItemAdded function to check what was bought (filter the akSourceContainer to Laura to avoid false inputs) You can add the items to a custom formlist instead of an array. Be sure to filter out any non dd-items like gold etc. DCUR also does this in the prison quest, so you could check the source scripts as reference. (StoreWornDevices and RestoreWornDevices are of intrest here)

 

So it's possible I think but not that easy

 

[llokii70]

Good Morning Laura, I follow your thread and am very interested in playing this mod. In fact I was the one who a file back first told you about the conversion. My question and I haven't tried the mod yet for this very reason is: Should Laura's bondage shop only be played after you have the majority of your Skyrim game played through. Not sure how much it affects the main games progression or your character progression or do I finish my playthrough and start another game later and add laura's bondage shop. Also and I read the description before and will read it again after this but generally speaking I have quite a few things loaded now like angrims, sisterhood of Mara, Devious Followers, Devious Helpless, CD, and Lola. There are a couple others besides those does LBS generally play nice with other DD, SL mods, BDSM mods loaded. Like I said I will reread the description but wondering if there were any gotcha's you're aware of. And of course there is always the idea of being able to go back to an earlier save.

[llokii70]

Also no DCL loaded yet (hope to in the future) and uninstalled Devious Framework due to way too many random CTD's it was causing

[shadowwolf2k7]

1 hour ago, llokii70 said:

Good Morning Laura, I follow your thread and am very interested in playing this mod. In fact I was the one who a file back first told you about the conversion. My question and I haven't tried the mod yet for this very reason is: Should Laura's bondage shop only be played after you have the majority of your Skyrim game played through. Not sure how much it affects the main games progression or your character progression or do I finish my playthrough and start another game later and add laura's bondage shop. Also and I read the description before and will read it again after this but generally speaking I have quite a few things loaded now like angrims, sisterhood of Mara, Devious Followers, Devious Helpless, CD, and Lola. There are a couple others besides those does LBS generally play nice with other DD, SL mods, BDSM mods loaded. Like I said I will reread the description but wondering if there were any gotcha's you're aware of. And of course there is always the idea of being able to go back to an earlier save.

i use deviousl helpers and it works just fine with it, it should also be fine with CD as well. as for the rest of the mods you listed i havent tried followers with lauras but again it should work fine. i recommend make a new save and test the others with it. that way you dont mess up your current play through.