sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

CliftonJD · December 18, 2021

14 hours ago, Martok73 said:

If I am remembering correctly it was 3 slaves I was moving from one HSH location to another HSH location and I remember telling each one "time to hit the road" which transferred them from HSH to PAHE, then when I got to where I wanted them, I did the "you're going to stay here awhile" which transferred them back from PAHE to HSH. Pretty sure that was what I was doing when I seen that popup. Best I recall the slaves work just fine which was another reason I found the error to be very odd.

are you using it with diary? could be you've found a bug with tak's array methods failing to remove the slave at both ends. since you didn't get the bug until you tried to move the slave from pahe to hsh, the none errors would be pahe trying to access a slave that's already moved to hsh, but still registered in pahe scripts. then later you got hsh errors that it failed to remove the slave from hsh and update hsh lists

14 hours ago, Antiope_Appolonia said:

If copying the clothes is the source of all the bugs/issues, wouldn't the pithiest solution be to simply replace "Cancel enslavement | Enslave (PAHE Core) | Talk" with "Cancel enslavement | Strip and enslave (PAHE Core) | Talk" and leave the gear uncopied? Not the perfect solution, but perhaps the lesser of two evils? Easy enough to rationalise the disappearance of the gear as the player having cut it off rather than removing it gently.

copying the clothes only acquires the bugs if you use the template method described here:

otherwise its normally setting the outfit that causes the bug, which is why the outfit is optional now

CliftonJD · December 18, 2021

12 hours ago, Nonseen said:

Side note:

to me looks like trollatuto kill managed to fix combat traning not happening bug, i dont know how.

this:

12 hours ago, Nonseen said:

first best if no new bandits installed in game, so no obis no pretty bandits etc.

i not used disable default otufit during this test.

nothing to do with his changes, already gone over this. the bug comes from the bandit's outfit being worn over the dd items, which isn't going to happen if you give the bandits a naked outfit...

12 hours ago, Nonseen said:

last day i doen a dom testing with pahe 9.0.4 and found out a strange extrame rare bug that maybe linked pahe it self. ( i not run test for this yet)

another post mentioned he's changing the enslavement process in dom so expect different results until you see it happen without dom

CliftonJD · December 18, 2021

12 hours ago, Martok73 said:

@CliftonJD Ok, so going back testing what we discussed earlier, I got this to popup in the log, and here's the kicker, the only thing I did was fast travel from Morthal, to Elysium Estates a custom player home along the road just west and south of Whiterun. I never touched any of my slaves never even looked at them, just fast traveled and walk into the house and did a few things in the house. No slaves are in the house at all, I have some at a camp near the house but not within eyesight of the fast travel spawn point. So I'm wondering what the hell is going on with HSH and the storage cause I know this isn't normal and shouldn't be popping up like this. I wanted you to take a look at these log entries and give me your opinion as to what may be going on and causing these errors like this before I try to re-install HSH.

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[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] ERROR: Unable to call IsInFaction - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:
   [None].Actor.IsInFaction() - "<native>" Line ?
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.CheckGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 301
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.OnUpdate() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 401
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp83"
stack:
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.CheckGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 301
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.OnUpdate() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 401
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] [CF][Creature] Started on ["Frost" [Actor < (00097E1F)>]] with race/skin ["Horse" [Race <HorseRace (000131FD)>]]["" [Armor < (0008650E)>]]
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] ERROR: Unable to call IsInFaction - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [None].Actor.IsInFaction() - "<native>" Line ?
   [PHHSHFlexibleStorage (65059A2A)].phhshflexistorage.GetSlaveLookupSection() - "phhshflexistorage.psc" Line 72
   [PHHSHFlexibleStorage (65059A2A)].phhshflexistorage.slaveRef() - "phhshflexistorage.psc" Line 80
   [PHHSHStorage (65008402)].phhshstoragefunctions.slaveRef() - "phhshstoragefunctions.psc" Line 1266
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.CheckGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 306
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.OnUpdate() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 401
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] [CF][Creature] Update being forced on ["Elk" [Actor < (000DC553)>]]; havingSex=False savedOverrideArousal=0 arousalSource=0
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp14"
stack:
   [PHHSHFlexibleStorage (65059A2A)].phhshflexistorage.GetSlaveLookupSection() - "phhshflexistorage.psc" Line 72
   [PHHSHFlexibleStorage (65059A2A)].phhshflexistorage.slaveRef() - "phhshflexistorage.psc" Line 80
   [PHHSHStorage (65008402)].phhshstoragefunctions.slaveRef() - "phhshstoragefunctions.psc" Line 1266
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.CheckGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 306
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.OnUpdate() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 401
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] [CF][Creature] Update being forced on ["wolf" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC551)>]]; havingSex=False savedOverrideArousal=0 arousalSource=0
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:22AM] ERROR: Unable to call RemoveFromFaction - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [None].Actor.RemoveFromFaction() - "<native>" Line ?
   [PHHSHFlexibleStorage (65059A2A)].phhshflexistorage.slaveRef() - "phhshflexistorage.psc" Line 322
   [PHHSHStorage (65008402)].phhshstoragefunctions.slaveRef() - "phhshstoragefunctions.psc" Line 1266
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.CheckGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 306
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.OnUpdate() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 401
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:23AM] ERROR: Unable to call GetDisplayName - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [None].Actor.GetDisplayName() - "<native>" Line ?
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.TryReplaceGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 326
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.CheckGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 308
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.OnUpdate() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 401
[12/18/2021 - 01:36:23AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp93"
stack:
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.TryReplaceGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 326
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.CheckGuard() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 308
   [alias PortableCell1 on quest PHHSHPortable (6502E0F2)].phhshportablecellscript.OnUpdate() - "phhshportablecellscript.psc" Line 401

[12/18/2021 - 01:39:41AM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to Actor[]
stack:
   [PHHSHScenesSLA (650BF923)].phhshscenesla.ProcessArousals() - "phhshSceneSLA.psc" Line 16
   [alias PlayerAlias on quest PHHSHStorage (65008402)].phhshplayerscript.OnArousalComputed() - "phhshplayerscript.psc" Line 45

Lemme know what ya think on this one cause I'm stumped. Thanks in advance mate .

just went thru my log after reading it, seems the hsh bugs are indeed a hsh error, would need an update from musje. my best guess is issues with the outdoor camps not updating the lists proper:

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12/16/2021 - 08:46:07PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 310
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:46:09PM] ERROR: Unable to call IsInterior - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [<nullptr form> (00009674)].Cell.IsInterior() - "<native>" Line ?
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:46:09PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp85"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:46:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:46:09PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:46:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:46:09PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:46:09PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:18PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 310
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:20PM] ERROR: Unable to call IsInterior - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [<nullptr form> (00009674)].Cell.IsInterior() - "<native>" Line ?
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:20PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp85"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:20PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:20PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:20PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:20PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:20PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:22PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetName - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [<nullptr form> (00009674)].Cell.GetName() - "<native>" Line ?
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ShowSelectedSlave() - "configmenu.psc" Line 569
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 330
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:47:22PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp54"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ShowSelectedSlave() - "configmenu.psc" Line 569
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 330
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:05PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 310
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:06PM] ERROR: Unable to call IsInterior - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [<nullptr form> (00009674)].Cell.IsInterior() - "<native>" Line ?
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:06PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp85"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:06PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:06PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:06PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:06PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:06PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:14PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 310
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:16PM] ERROR: Unable to call IsInterior - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [<nullptr form> (00009674)].Cell.IsInterior() - "<native>" Line ?
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:16PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp85"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 616
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:16PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:16PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 623
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:16PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetName() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:16PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp86"
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 625
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148
[12/16/2021 - 08:48:16PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to ReferenceAlias[]
stack:
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.ListCellOccupants() - "configmenu.psc" Line 639
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.OnPageReset() - "configmenu.psc" Line 311
   [PHHSHStorage (34008402)].Configmenu.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
   [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (14000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 148

CliftonJD · December 18, 2021

12 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

I will do a new version based on the 'legendary' edition, I will post the files for you and Clifton as soon as I have them ready. I will start this afternoon.

@CliftonJD the Add-on replaces the refalias container and overwrites parts of the config quest. I have to make sure that these changes don't revert the my work again.

ok, but i thought you decided you were merging the addon into the base eliminating the need for the addon.

slaves use this pahe-tdf-patch, it doesn't replace any refaliases and it doesn't overwrite any quests

CliftonJD · December 18, 2021

3 hours ago, dustbeetwelve said:

I have PapyrusUtil ver 3.9 which I double checked is the most up to date non-AE ver. When CTD occured i had it loaded BEFORE sexlab so sexlab overwrote, I now know to load it AFTER as Ashal said.

I have Skyrim.exe runtime 1.5.97

I have SKSE ver 2.0.19 (the current non-AE, SE build is 2.0.20)

version 4.2 is the most current version or papyrus, but it doesn't list what version of sse is compatible aside from the ae edition.

version 3.9 says its made for SKSE64 2.0.17 & SSE 1.5.97, so you would need to get your skse from the archived builds here: http://skse.silverlock.org/download/archive/skse64_2_00_17.7z

4 hours ago, dustbeetwelve said:

So - should loading PapyrusUtil AFTER everything be enough to fix, or should I be using a different version of SL? Just asking as your OP says BETA2. What's the optimal SL ver to use for max compatibility?

since ae is now on the same page as se, the se versions only have 1 available for download so use it

*Pfiffy* · December 18, 2021

14 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

ok, but i thought you decided you were merging the addon into the base eliminating the need for the addon.

slaves use this pahe-tdf-patch, it doesn't replace any refaliases and it doesn't overwrite any quests

Yes:

My Idea was to turn the add-on into a Slaves-only mod after integrating the features into the main mod. So you can have 20 additional Hookers AND 20 (or even more) Slaves working for you. We just have to make the dialogues fit.

Nonseen · December 18, 2021

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

15 hours ago, Nonseen said:

first best if no new bandits installed in game, so no obis no pretty bandits etc.

i not used disable default otufit during this test.

nothing to do with his changes, already gone over this. the bug comes from the bandit's outfit being worn over the dd items, which isn't going to happen if you give the bandits a naked outfit...

15 hours ago, Nonseen said:

last day i doen a dom testing with pahe 9.0.4 and found out a strange extrame rare bug that maybe linked pahe it self. ( i not run test for this yet)

another post mentioned he's changing the enslavement process in dom so expect different results until you see it happen without dom

i understand now thank you for the explanation.

next time to be sure if possible i run a sort test in pahe to see its dom only thing or not.

Martok73 · December 18, 2021

3 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

are you using it with diary? could be you've found a bug with tak's array methods failing to remove the slave at both ends. since you didn't get the bug until you tried to move the slave from pahe to hsh, the none errors would be pahe trying to access a slave that's already moved to hsh, but still registered in pahe scripts. then later you got hsh errors that it failed to remove the slave from hsh and update hsh lists

Not using DoM, was waiting for him to let me know if it was safe to install mid-save with fully trained slaves.

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

just went thru my log after reading it, seems the hsh bugs are indeed a hsh error, would need an update from musje. my best guess is issues with the outdoor camps not updating the lists proper:

Ugh, so not something you can fix then huh?

*pinky6225* · December 19, 2021

Isn't the naked bandit bug due to the NPC you enslave being stripped of there outfit as part of the cloning/enslaving process so then anything sharing the original form id is also naked?

Since if it is then cloning and not stripping the outfit would prevent that but unless you have another mod to do it after you wouldnt be able to get the slave naked (unless you wanted to add that to one of the 3 stripping options)

Antiope_Apollonia · December 19, 2021

6 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

copying the clothes only acquires the bugs if you use the template method described here:

[...]

otherwise its normally setting the outfit that causes the bug, which is why the outfit is optional now

Right, but my point is that, if using the template method and just not bothering to copy the clothes would be a way to avoid the bugs, then that'd be the lesser of two evils, at least for the way I use the mod. Copying the clothes too would be nice, but on the hierarchy of priorities, it ranks pretty much at the bottom.

1 hour ago, pinky6225 said:

Since if it is then cloning and not stripping the outfit would prevent that but unless you have another mod to do it after you wouldnt be able to get the slave naked (unless you wanted to add that to one of the 3 stripping options)

Cloning and not stripping is what the MCM toggle does, but in practice, I haven't found that it actually helps, since if you want to keep your slaves naked, you'll still have to use the "strip and set outfit" dialogue later, and that can still introduce the bug. So, in the end, as far as I can tell, using the MCM toggle just introduces more hassle without any real benefit, unless you're happy with slaves keeping their default outfits.

Edited December 19, 2021 by Antiope_Appolonia

Will55 · December 19, 2021

On 12/18/2021 at 10:34 AM, CliftonJD said:

222 references to astrid, i'll start her fixes 8.0.7, but i think her initial fixes will only work for her dialogues during With Friends Like These....

future updates will then start adding quest progression into the db...will likely take several updates to complete her

I duplicated her and enslaved the copy in the marshland hut along with ?Alea Quintus (mouthy target) who is now (I replaced her dirty face with a far better one) compliant and even pleasant as a 4+ SLEN house slave.

*Pfiffy* · December 19, 2021

So here is the new working version of TDF:

TDFNeu.7z

@CliftonJDCan you please check the AIBB_Tif__040405531 to xxxx35 scripts, if we really need them for each scene or if we can rename them to bb_roaminghookersPaycrime and use one script for all? And tell me if you see any further problems? I will give it a little test today and then add the aliases for the other locations and the indies. Maybe I will be able to rebuild the scenes today, too...

Edit: How can I fix the spells, so that they no longer throw errors in the CK?

Edited December 19, 2021 by Pfiffy

Farsh-nuke · December 19, 2021

I use the follower mods Sofia and Mirai and I've noticed that something in the Paradise Halls series of mods is causing their horses and only their horses to be frozen and not animate. I l know it's from the paradise halls mods because when I started a fresh game without them in a different Mod profile to test out other mods the affected horses were behaving normally again. I looked further and it seems like the Slave Cart add on for Paradise Halls is at fault. Can anyone confirm this? If you can can someone suggest a solution besides uninstalling that mod?

ShinUmbra · December 19, 2021

Anyone else having an issue where slaves don't get combat experience from killing things? i had to redo my whole mod list after a update to skse and i reverted back so i can play again, but it's pretty much a clean mod setup with mostly Pahe related addon's. it was fine before and with the reload they just fight, they don't get exp i can't praise them for combat they just act like a follower. any idea's?

*Pfiffy* · December 19, 2021

Seems like the ck lost a lot of script properties...

I have some problems with the pimping quests, there I need the property for PlayerSexGoldAmount. My guess is, that it is pimpingcashearned

and the Pimping auto quests...

there I need the properties for the Idle 1, 2 and 3...

*pinky6225* · December 19, 2021

54 minutes ago, ShinUmbra said:

Anyone else having an issue where slaves don't get combat experience from killing things? i had to redo my whole mod list after a update to skse and i reverted back so i can play again, but it's pretty much a clean mod setup with mostly Pahe related addon's. it was fine before and with the reload they just fight, they don't get exp i can't praise them for combat they just act like a follower. any idea's?

The lack of combat training was a Diary of Mine bug which was fixed (2.1.2 maybe) so you'll need to update that to be able to start training combat properly again

Edited December 19, 2021 by pinky6225

ShinUmbra · December 19, 2021

8 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

The lack of combat training was a Diary of Mine bug which was fixed (2.1.2 maybe) so you'll need to update that to be able to start training combat properly again

Thank you i'll give it a try

CliftonJD · December 19, 2021

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

Not using DoM, was waiting for him to let me know if it was safe to install mid-save with fully trained slaves.

well he did make it possible to update mid-save, but i think for best results he still recommends a new or clean save. just thought it odd that you not just had the hsh errors, but the pahe errors during transfer in some cases. fortunately it only happened that once, maybe was just a skyrim fluke or memory bug for now

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

Ugh, so not something you can fix then huh?

no, the way musje scripted that i couldn't track down all the soft-dependencies to be able to script in hsh

20 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Isn't the naked bandit bug due to the NPC you enslave being stripped of there outfit as part of the cloning/enslaving process so then anything sharing the original form id is also naked?

Since if it is then cloning and not stripping the outfit would prevent that but unless you have another mod to do it after you wouldnt be able to get the slave naked (unless you wanted to add that to one of the 3 stripping options)

yes, that's correct understanding of the bug and fix for it. right now we can tell them to strip, but we can't yet get them to stay that way...atleast not without using the old naked outfit and bringing back the bugs along with it. already considering a means for circumventing this issue as well. i have a method in the next update for fixing dd staitjackets and dwarven suits, which i'm considering adapting for stripping slaves told to be naked, but i was been debating if i want to also make this a punishable offense. after seeing a request in another thread to force nudity on sold slaves, i decided it might be best if i start with the mandate law for all pahe slaves which could accidentally include sold slaves. this will ofc be optional thru the mcm and i might still add the option for it to be a punishable offense, but thinking that will be further down the road to see how the mandate law works out first

18 hours ago, Antiope_Appolonia said:

Right, but my point is that, if using the template method and just not bothering to copy the clothes would be a way to avoid the bugs, then that'd be the lesser of two evils, at least for the way I use the mod. Copying the clothes too would be nice, but on the hierarchy of priorities, it ranks pretty much at the bottom.

the truth is the method wasn't tested far enough with out the option of copying the items since it wouldn't just be the clothes, but anything the npc should have had. all the weapons and armor and even their gold and jewelry would be left behind, which also would include any quest items they should have had would now be lost to the game

19 hours ago, Antiope_Appolonia said:

, since if you want to keep your slaves naked, you'll still have to use the "strip and set outfit" dialogue later, and that can still introduce the bug. So, in the end, as far as I can tell, using the MCM toggle just introduces more hassle without any real benefit, unless you're happy with slaves keeping their default outfits.

read my response to it above--this new law is based on your philosophy and your desire to have it include sold slaves

13 hours ago, Will55 said:

I duplicated her and enslaved the copy in the marshland hut along with ?Alea Quintus (mouthy target) who is now (I replaced her dirty face with a far better one) compliant and even pleasant as a 4+ SLEN house slave.

ok, should have her initial dialogues soon after this update...just not sure how far along the questline i can get her dialogues going while i fix the respect dialogues is only reason i plan to do her in stages

9 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

So here is the new working version of TDF:

TDFNeu.7z 37.27 MB · 2 downloads

@CliftonJDCan you please check the AIBB_Tif__040405531 to xxxx35 scripts, if we really need them for each scene or if we can rename them to bb_roaminghookersPaycrime and use one script for all? And tell me if you see any further problems? I will give it a little test today and then add the aliases for the other locations and the indies. Maybe I will be able to rebuild the scenes today, too...

Edit: How can I fix the spells, so that they no longer throw errors in the CK?

ya, i can take a look

fixing the spells only requires making a copy of the existing id spell's effects as magic effects. you can look at the last versions i sent you before as examples or copy the magic effects from those in xedit using compare. once you have the magic effects, you only need to assign them to the spell, also shown in the last versions i sent you.

7 hours ago, Farsh-nuke said:

I use the follower mods Sofia and Mirai and I've noticed that something in the Paradise Halls series of mods is causing their horses and only their horses to be frozen and not animate. I l know it's from the paradise halls mods because when I started a fresh game without them in a different Mod profile to test out other mods the affected horses were behaving normally again. I looked further and it seems like the Slave Cart add on for Paradise Halls is at fault. Can anyone confirm this? If you can can someone suggest a solution besides uninstalling that mod?

glad you figured out it was the slave cart addon or it wouldn't make any sense for the connection to horses. sorry, that's another musje addon so no idea on that

5 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

Seems like the ck lost a lot of script properties...

I have some problems with the pimping quests, there I need the property for PlayerSexGoldAmount. My guess is, that it is pimpingcashearned

and the Pimping auto quests...

there I need the properties for the Idle 1, 2 and 3...

if you've lost all the properties, this might be good time to match the script properties to the esp properties they're sposed to be referencing to make it easier now to fix the properties when this happens. really no point to having the properties named different, just annoys the piss outta me when they do that...

Antiope_Apollonia · December 19, 2021

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

after seeing a request in another thread to force nudity on sold slaves, i decided it might be best if i start with the mandate law for all pahe slaves which could accidentally include sold slaves. this will ofc be optional thru the mcm and i might still add the option for it to be a punishable offense, but thinking that will be further down the road to see how the mandate law works out first

[...]

read my response to it above--this new law is based on your philosophy and your desire to have it include sold slaves

Aye, that sounds like an awesome addition. Can't wait to check out what you've come up with!

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

the truth is the method wasn't tested far enough with out the option of copying the items since it wouldn't just be the clothes, but anything the npc should have had. all the weapons and armor and even their gold and jewelry would be left behind, which also would include any quest items they should have had would now be lost to the game

Yeah, fair enough, sounds like probably a dead-end in that case.

You might want to cross-reference DoM development again around this, by the way. Troll is messing around with new keywords to affect clothing behaviour when worn by slaves. Not sure if there's an opportunity for any system integration here, but probably worth at least being aware of it.

CliftonJD · December 19, 2021

1 hour ago, Antiope_Appolonia said:

Aye, that sounds like an awesome addition. Can't wait to check out what you've come up with!

Yeah, fair enough, sounds like probably a dead-end in that case.

You might want to cross-reference DoM development again around this, by the way. Troll is messing around with new keywords to affect clothing behaviour when worn by slaves. Not sure if there's an opportunity for any system integration here, but probably worth at least being aware of it.

thaks

CliftonJD · December 20, 2021

On 12/10/2021 at 3:06 PM, CliftonJD said:

while to all of us its a bug in the dialogue, it turns out that the dialogues were written to be completely random without any means for eventual obedience other than random chance...to fix this i'm going to need to rewrite nearly all the dialogue conditions with a cap on when they can say things they shouldn't be saying starting with the greetings and starting with the common eventoned voice, i'm going to make the following fix changes in the next updates:

respectful slaves will now get an additional dialogue chance for max respect training--fix change difference from previous fixes was an or situation that could lead to slaves told not to speak as they want using those dialogues as well if they have respect maxed

disrespectful angry slaves will now get a respect cap of 65, meaning they should no longer be allowed to show their anger thru disrespect once they reach 65 respect training

fearful slaves will now get a respect cap of 80, meaning they should no longer be allowed to show their fear once they reach 80 respect training

dialogues of a normal speaking manner that don't show any emotion will now be capped at 100 respect training, unless the slave is told they can speak how they want now

with the above changes in place we should not only fix the respect "bugs", but also finally make it possible for a slave to speak normal without being an asshat IF respect trained upto 80 or higher first, then told to speak as they wish

the first update to this is already in progress for the eventoned greetings and the other voice types will follow it before proceeding to the next list of dialogues, likely to be there goodbyes. thought of completing eventoned first, but it will be much smoother transition for everybody to see the changes if all voice types are kept consistent before moving to the next stages of dialogue groups

update 8.0.6 is mostly covered by the above then added those changes for nord voices and sultry women

devious strait jackets and dwarven suits will now be fixed periodically by stripping the slave and re-equipping, this should also clear some bugs in the log for combat training related to slaves who were sposed to be wearing them but weren't
combat training no longer progressively slows down after 50, but instead might progressively speed up
Kaie of cidna mine quest dialogues added so she should be able to speak as a slave

Martok73 · December 20, 2021

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

just thought it odd that you not just had the hsh errors, but the pahe errors during transfer in some cases. fortunately it only happened that once, maybe was just a skyrim fluke or memory bug for now

Unfortunately it seems to be happening everytime I fast travel back to the house where the outdoor HSH Camp is close to. Not knowing just how big an outdoor cell is I can't tell you if it actually is in the same cell as the fast travel point or not, but I am assuming that is because it's giving those errors everytime I come back to the house and it doesn't matter if I have any slaves with me or not. Both errors recur when transferring from HSH to PAHE and from PAHE to HSH while at that particular outdoor HSH Slave Camp. I will check my logs the next time I go to Lakeview Manor and see if the errors occur there as well, since that's my other HSH Slave location. Speaking of Lakeview Manor, that render bug with the grey wall I showed you a few pages back, is directly linked with the new additions in each of the hearthfire homes that the fishing mod adds with the new aquariums. Every hearthfire home has space for the new aquariums but since Lakeview was modified to add in the dungeon or whatever you want to call it, the extra space added to make room for the aquariums will have to be added to the extension and the render changed in order to get rid of the grey wall. You can walk thru that grey wall into the space where the aquariums go but they don't show up when trying to add them via the bench in the cellar, so my guess is the extension will have to be adapted to fit the new layout and modified again from the cell before it's changed. Also a note on the navmesh, as it stands right now, none of the files for the extension has proper navmesh for the entrance to the dungeon as no npc will walk from the ladder into the dungeon extension as the navmesh is gone. My guess is it got accidently removed when taking out the wall to make the extension. So that will have to be fixed as well whenever you dig into updating Lakeview Manor to be compatible with the aquariums added by fishing. I can give screenshots if need be if any of that didn't make sense and I think I have found the navmesh entries that need to be added back in order to have npcs walk from the ladder entering the cellar into the dungeon thru the little gate but that will need further testing.

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

no, the way musje scripted that i couldn't track down all the soft-dependencies to be able to script in hsh

That is very disappointing and dishearting to hear

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

but i was been debating if i want to also make this a punishable offense. after seeing a request in another thread to force nudity on sold slaves, i decided it might be best if i start with the mandate law for all pahe slaves which could accidentally include sold slaves. this will ofc be optional thru the mcm and i might still add the option for it to be a punishable offense, but thinking that will be further down the road to see how the mandate law works out first

Oh yes please, I'd love to be able to "punish" a slave for putting on clothes after I told the bitch to strip. That would be a very cool addition to be able to punish slaves for putting on clothing the same way you can now punish them for not fighting or not being respectful thru the dialog and have them react to it, ooohhhh the possibilities you're getting me all excited, LMAO . Speaking of punishments, right now we get whip marks when whipping slaves, how hard would it be or is it possible to either add a hook for spanking animations to call STA and have those red ass overlays added to a slave in those spanking animations, or would it be easier to expand the punishment dialog that already has whipping and sex and restrain to include "spanking" and have that initiate a sex lab scene using spanking animations and have that apply a "red ass" overlay and use the correct sounds to the slave the same way the whip marks and sounds are applied? Spanking a slave's ass red as another punishment option would inho be a great addition and could be an option for a slave that needs to be punished but perhaps doesn't require something as severe as being whipped. Speaking for myself but I'm sure others would also love this and also the afore mentioned one with the naked punishment as soon as you could get it too us, hint hint wink wink

Speaking of your next update I remember seeing you mention something about being on update 8.06 or something, I'm using ver. 8.04 from the main page at the moment, is there somewhere amongst these 82 pages update 8.05 lurking about and if not, when can we expect to get our hands on your next awesome update that we are anxiously awaiting? No rush just curious

CliftonJD · December 20, 2021

13 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

please check the AIBB_Tif__040405531 to xxxx35 scripts, if we really need them for each scene or if we can rename them to bb_roaminghookersPaycrime and use one script for all?

ya, those are identical. here's the new script:

bb_roaminghookersPaycrime_TIF.psc

bb_roaminghookersPaycrime_TIF.pex

Antiope_Apollonia · December 20, 2021

40 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

update 8.0.6

Hurray! Two quick questions:

Is it safe to upgrade mid-playthrough?
I've been using the all-in-one install, because for whatever version I started with way back, you'd forgotten to release the standalone version, and it's just become a habit. But it's silly having all these patches for things I don't use and then having to go and disable a bunch of .esps and such, so I thought it was time I sort that out. If I want keep using the Lakeview Manor Refurbished patch, do I need either of the other Lakeview Manor patches—"original" or "expansion fixed"? I see I have a pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp active currently, but I'm not sure what that corresponds to.

CliftonJD · December 20, 2021

28 minutes ago, Martok73 said:

Speaking of Lakeview Manor, that render bug with the grey wall I showed you a few pages back, is directly linked with the new additions in each of the hearthfire homes that the fishing mod adds with the new aquariums. Every hearthfire home has space for the new aquariums but since Lakeview was modified to add in the dungeon or whatever you want to call it, the extra space added to make room for the aquariums will have to be added to the extension and the render changed in order to get rid of the grey wall. You can walk thru that grey wall into the space where the aquariums go but they don't show up when trying to add them via the bench in the cellar, so my guess is the extension will have to be adapted to fit the new layout and modified again from the cell before it's changed. Also a note on the navmesh, as it stands right now, none of the files for the extension has proper navmesh for the entrance to the dungeon as no npc will walk from the ladder into the dungeon extension as the navmesh is gone. My guess is it got accidently removed when taking out the wall to make the extension. So that will have to be fixed as well whenever you dig into updating Lakeview Manor to be compatible with the aquariums added by fishing. I can give screenshots if need be if any of that didn't make sense and I think I have found the navmesh entries that need to be added back in order to have npcs walk from the ladder entering the cellar into the dungeon thru the little gate but that will need further testing.

that would have to be conflicts with the aquarium, that's why i and nobody else has that issue...it was fixed ages ago before it even came to se

33 minutes ago, Martok73 said:

Speaking of your next update I remember seeing you mention something about being on update 8.06 or something, I'm using ver. 8.04 from the main page at the moment, is there somewhere amongst these 82 pages update 8.05 lurking about and if not, when can we expect to get our hands on your next awesome update that we are anxiously awaiting? No rush just curious

it actually already posted with the update description above your post, 8.0.5 was a quick bug fix sent out to Le

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