Reginald_001 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, woodsman30 said: So how is it possible a follower was never made for Skyrim like this ...I mean seriously....... Side note awesome work I never really got into Skyrim as much as I got into Fallout. j/k I'd say that for all intents and purposes Ivy is 'too big'.. her base esm now already has 6300 lines of dialogue. That's more than HALF the available vanilla player dialogue (11k lines). Most vanilla companions have between 600 and 1800 lines in total. Piper has most lines due to some extra quest integration into the main quest line (and because she is basically the 'vanilla' companion that Bethesda meant for players to romance). Most of the work is stubborn perseverance though.. trust me that at multiple points the fun just 'goes' and it becomes a job you MUST do if you want to see the results you're after. It doesn't matter how slow you go, as long as you never stop. 5
woodsman30 Posted May 27, 2019 Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Reginald_001 said: Most of the work is stubborn perseverance though.. trust me that at multiple points the fun just 'goes' and it becomes a job you MUST do if you want to see the results you're after. It doesn't matter how slow you go, as long as you never stop. I think your work here speaks for itself and those who use her appreciate your work 4
Adviser69 Posted May 27, 2019 Posted May 27, 2019 6 hours ago, woodsman30 said: So how is it possible a follower was never made for Skyrim like this ...I mean seriously....... Side note awesome work Closest we ever got to a companion like Ivy in Skyrim was Vilja, and MAYBE Mirai. But even with all their benefits, these companions don't even come close to the complexity that Ivy has even with the current download, to say nothing of what Reginald seems to have in store for us. 1
Sevatt Posted May 27, 2019 Posted May 27, 2019 I've wondered the same thing - If Reginald just decided to go bat-shit crazy one day and thought "omfg... I've already created the most awesome follower ever for FO4, Ivy (or someone similar) must conquer the land of Skyrim as well!" I wonder what she'd be like... a vampire or a succubus for sure... (psst hey Reg - if you ever do, just make sure you do it for SE... for... ya know... reasons.) ? 1
Reginald_001 Posted May 27, 2019 Author Posted May 27, 2019 Here's a nice poem for you all. From Ivy's Affinity quest.. Some credit is due: I wrote the poem, but the idea of a mother shooting the crippled bunny is from The Maxx, a 90's MTV cartoon that deeply engrosses itself into Carl Yung and popular clinical psychology. I had woven it into Ivy's storyline as an afterthought, an Easter egg reference to The Maxx.. little did I know that it would be an integral part of Ivy's mental makeup... The Maxx is a must see, b.t.w... If not for it's many levels and intricate storyline, then for it's beautiful visuals that still hold up today. 5
Adviser69 Posted May 27, 2019 Posted May 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Sevatt said: I've wondered the same thing - If Reginald just decided to go bat-shit crazy one day and thought "omfg... I've already created the most awesome follower ever for FO4, Ivy (or someone similar) must conquer the land of Skyrim as well!" I wonder what she'd be like... a vampire or a succubus for sure... (psst hey Reg - if you ever do, just make sure you do it for SE... for... ya know... reasons.) ? Well, technically SE is more stable... Seriously though, it would be interesting to have a complex, sexual (among other things) themed companion seen from a different angle. Most companions mods out there are pretty much just eye candy pack mules/meat shields, and the ones that do come with any kind of personality either lose it, or it becomes repetitive once their personal quest has been completed. Sure there are a few that react or comment based on what quest you have at the time, but I haven't come across one in Skyrim that reacts to ME, not just as the protagonist the game frames me to be, but also as the person I shape out to be with the choices I make. I might just look into making a companion like this myself, one who can grow in experience with the player, not because of the player. One neutral to any game factions, but also grounded in their own abilities and experience. I just don't know where to even start, though. 2
Reginald_001 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Posted May 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Adviser69 said: Well, technically SE is more stable... Seriously though, it would be interesting to have a complex, sexual (among other things) themed companion seen from a different angle. Most companions mods out there are pretty much just eye candy pack mules/meat shields, and the ones that do come with any kind of personality either lose it, or it becomes repetitive once their personal quest has been completed. Sure there are a few that react or comment based on what quest you have at the time, but I haven't come across one in Skyrim that reacts to ME, not just as the protagonist the game frames me to be, but also as the person I shape out to be with the choices I make. I might just look into making a companion like this myself, one who can grow in experience with the player, not because of the player. One neutral to any game factions, but also grounded in their own abilities and experience. I just don't know where to even start, though. I started out all the way in the beginning. Didn't know diddly squad about modding for CK but had done a lot of modding for Quake/Doom based engines in the past. I literally clicked together with Seddon's tutorial when making Ivy's first basics: Of course, not much of that is left except for some scenes and the tutorial has some inaccuracies and stuff you don't really need.. and misses some stuff you will really need later on. But it's a really good base tutorial on where to start and what to look out for. 3
Reginald_001 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Posted May 28, 2019 Development Update Finished part one of Ivy's Affinity Quest. A deep dive into the inky pool of Ivy's subconscious. Players must keep a young incarnation of Deborah safe inside a hostile environment. By unlocking memories, you are able to travel deeper into her subconscious. Can you cope with what you encounter? Or will you be reduced to a bumbling baby? Beware.. true spoilers in this video! Affinity Quest 1 - 3.mp4 5
GenPatton Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 Two questions - (1) There are two different profanity filters listed in the MCM, any info on what the difference is between them? (2) When you talk to Ivy, she mentions particular actions, and the PC reacts negatively, does she remember that?
Reginald_001 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 11 hours ago, GenPatton said: Two questions - (1) There are two different profanity filters listed in the MCM, any info on what the difference is between them? (2) When you talk to Ivy, she mentions particular actions, and the PC reacts negatively, does she remember that? MCM? Ivy does not have MCM additions. If anyone released this outside of my knowledge do NOT use this. Not for the current build and ESPECIALLY not for the future build. You can speak to her and she offers two types of profanity filters through the Service Menu, the first turns off ALL sexy remarks (outside of flirting) the second one turns off only extreme eroticism (e.g. scat/pee etc..). (Which reminds me: Look into 'sanctioned' MCM menu options.. + look into MCM in general) 2
GenPatton Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: MCM? Ivy does not have MCM additions. If anyone released this outside of my knowledge do NOT use this. Not for the current build and ESPECIALLY not for the future build. You can speak to her and she offers two types of profanity filters through the Service Menu, the first turns off ALL sexy remarks (outside of flirting) the second one turns off only extreme eroticism (e.g. scat/pee etc..). (Which reminds me: Look into 'sanctioned' MCM menu options.. + look into MCM in general) My mistake, I meant the settings. I have several other mods with MCMs, and just typed it wrong. Thanks for the info. 3
Reginald_001 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 Development Log I Integrated the Affinity quest into Ivy's main quest line today. Found a bug where Ivy continues to teleport to the player, even though she is temporarily dismissed for the duration of the affinity quest. Had to fix that but it meant a new game as some properties had changed. I still have no idea how to retroactively fill properties in script for existing savegames.. Anyway, I fixed the bug and the quest now triggers properly. I'd say the entire dungeon is around 25 minutes of gameplay, including dialogue (it has quite a lot of dialogue with 300 lines in total). Another strange bug was young Debby appearing suddenly as secondary follower, after already having completed the quest. The quest kicks off immediately after reaching affinity level 40. Ivy 'bugs out' and interfaces with your pipboy, after which the player goes 'into' Ivy's subconscious.. So tonight I'll be playing a fresh game to test out how it all integrates and works. 4
Reginald_001 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 Development Update Polished THE FUCK out of the first affinity quest.. Some screenshots! 5
SpinX Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 Do we get to meet General Failure ? Don't push me, I'll show myself out. 2
ModHunter42 Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 10:12 AM, woodsman30 said: So how is it possible a follower was never made for Skyrim like this ...I mean seriously....... Side note awesome work There was a Male follower mod for Skyrim. Don't remember his name sadly. Was reviewed by MXR. He knows that it's his first time fighting a dragon, and then his second.... Sounds like an excellent companion. A far cry from Ivy of course, but still, if you're playing Skyrim until Ithe new Ivy is out.... A male follower mod Has to be good for Skyrim or Nobody will care. 1
Reginald_001 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, ModHunter42 said: There was a Male follower mod for Skyrim. Don't remember his name sadly. Was reviewed by MXR. He knows that it's his first time fighting a dragon, and then his second.... Sounds like an excellent companion. A far cry from Ivy of course, but still, if you're playing Skyrim until Ithe new Ivy is out.... A male follower mod Has to be good for Skyrim or Nobody will care. I was thinking that we should dub a new name for followers like Ivy. She's not just a companion or follower.. I mean at this point she's DLC sized (e.g. Ivy is definitely much bigger than the Robot- or Vault 88 DLC's)... so what would such a follower be called? What would be the term? Something like 'Prime Companion' or 'Prime Follower' or 'Immersive Follower'.. it also needs to be catchy, so people pick up on it. 2
ModHunter42 Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Reginald_001 said: I was thinking that we should dub a new name for followers like Ivy. She's not just a companion or follower.. I mean at this point she's DLC sized (e.g. Ivy is definitely much bigger than the Robot- or Vault 88 DLC's)... so what would such a follower be called? What would be the term? Something like 'Prime Companion' or 'Prime Follower' or 'Immersive Follower'.. it also needs to be catchy, so people pick up on it. And in at least Ivy's case add DLC to the name because she IS a full DLC not just a mod. Complete Companion (DLC)? Finished Follower? (Compared to anything else). 1
RGardin Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: I was thinking that we should dub a new name for followers like Ivy. She's not just a companion or follower.. I mean at this point she's DLC sized (e.g. Ivy is definitely much bigger than the Robot- or Vault 88 DLC's)... so what would such a follower be called? What would be the term? Something like 'Prime Companion' or 'Prime Follower' or 'Immersive Follower'.. it also needs to be catchy, so people pick up on it. “Prime” makes me think Transformers. (Lol, Optimus Ivy. More than meets the eye. Sry just entertaining myself) How about... Premium companion 1
urbanoantigo Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: I was thinking that we should dub a new name for followers like Ivy. She's not just a companion or follower.. I mean at this point she's DLC sized (e.g. Ivy is definitely much bigger than the Robot- or Vault 88 DLC's)... so what would such a follower be called? What would be the term? Something like 'Prime Companion' or 'Prime Follower' or 'Immersive Follower'.. it also needs to be catchy, so people pick up on it. this was a great observation, Ivy already stood out a lot of the followers that exist, but now in the new version, much more interaction with the medium and even more enters other DLC with NukaWorld, so yes, it certainly goes beyond the companions category, it's much more for an even DLC immersive is a term in the title that draws much attention and that valued, I think it pays to include in the immersive choice too, For now, I think it is more appropriate to the current stage of evolution of ivy the next version to be something like: Ivy's Saga, DLC Immersive Companion ...something to that effect or... Ivy, Extreme Immersive companion ? 1
ModHunter42 Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Extreme Escort? She does offer escort services. ? Extremely Explicit Escort? 1
Nebuchadnezzer2 Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Insane Volumptious YoursI mean it's right there I'll be back with another if I come up with one for the NX-2C as well. 1
Reginald_001 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, RGardin said: “Prime” makes me think Transformers. (Lol, Optimus Ivy. More than meets the eye. Sry just entertaining myself) How about... Premium companion That's the one.. ! 2
reakktor901 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Damn how could I miss Ivy for such a long time. Now essential mod. Yeah, I know I'm late (as always, I'm getting old), but just wanted to say thanks for nice and hard work! If there was a "best of" or ranking feature on this forum, I'd vote for. 1
fred200 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, ChicGeek said: I always refer to her as a “game changeing companion experience”. most users would agree that a play through with Ivy is a distinctly different experience... one (thus far) unique only to Ivy (imho/ime) Find a way to articulate that uniqueness. Just stick your Avatar on it. That says it all. It is one of my all-time favorites! 2
Reginald_001 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Posted May 31, 2019 Development Update Spent the day with further tweaking part 1 and working on Part 2 of Ivy's affinity quest. I've added a full screen filter for the entire duration of this quest, to further underline the fact that the player is in some kind of virtual environment, or 'dream-scape'. All of the architecture is done and I'm now laying out the quest line through the map. Just like in the first map, players will go from room to room, looking for clues to unlock new memories, which will allow them to dig deeper. The second map features more violence, reflected by this part of Ivy's subconscious. It will also put to end any lingering questions that you might have about Ivy's identity.. or will it? Traveling deeper into Ivy's subconscious, players encounter a raider stronghold with bizarre twists and turns. Together with Debby, they must figure and puzzle their way out of the stronghold so they can confront yet another incarnation of Deborah to try to find a new equilibrium.. (Minor spoilers in this video). (Edit: I want to continue deving but the next door neighbors are throwing a party and it's impossible to concentrate at this point.. They're everywhere.. out back (smoking). Out front (kids).. They put all the babies in the room next to mine.. it's a cacophony of music, laughter, babies crying and screaming LOUD and other distracting noises so I'm calling it a day.. this'll likely last all night anyway. Am going to just play with Ivy for a bit tonight.. ) The awesome and scary ambient track was written and created by a friend of mine, and donated to this mod. He owns the full copyright to this track and has granted me use of it in the mod. Affinity Pt2.mp4 6
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