zarantha Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said: well, like i said, i disable them both and i got DCL and DEC menus right away on my next load. then i started a new problem related to the latest version of SD+ causing game breaking issues on game loads. had to revert to an older SD version to make it work... EDIT: ok i am seriously started to get pissed off. game loading is broken the moment i close the game and try to start a new one. and it's related to SkyUI, DCL and SD somehow... i have uninstalled and reinstalled. but all my saves are not useless and corrupted because of whatever is going on between these 3 mods... here's the netscript log. every time i think i have it fixed again and am able to play, the moment i close the game and MO2, and then open it up again to either load a previous save or clicking "continue", it's a CTD right away. log shows DCL and SkyUI and SD creating a conflict on "menuparams" and more...... very frustrating Crash_2021_8_31_16-57-14.txt 43.84 kB · 1 download Okay, just going to get this out of the way. You can't uninstall big mods like these even on a new game. You need to go back to a save before it was installed if you're going to remove them. Both DCL and SD are simply too script heavy to cleanly remove. You can try cleaning with fallrim tools after removing them, but it's not guaranteed to work. Reverting to a save before the mod was installed is the only safe way to remove it. For the CTD, I'll be honest. I haven't seen this shit since removing some Babo mods. That's the exact string I saw with them, up to where I had the babo mcm script instead of the DCL mcm script. I've never seen it with DCL even when the other mod was busted. As far as I can tell, it indicates the MCM is not loading properly. You can probably try loading again immediately and have it work, but you will frequently have issues loading a save, and even when loaded it's not stable. The errors won't go away without removing the mod with the script errors. A papyrus log that matches the CTD may help kimy with pinpointing why the MCM isn't initializing right, because I don't have these script errors with my DCL. R15: 0x1AE2A58E4D0 (BSScript::Internal::CodeTasklet*) -> (Function: BSScript::Internal::ScriptFunction(File: SKI_ConfigBase.psc, Type: SKI_ConfigBase, Name: OnGameReload)) [SP+88] 0x882BCFF000 (char*) "WARNING: Mismatched types assigning to variable named "_menuParams" - assigning None\nstack:\n\t[dcur_menuconfig (790012C4)].dcur_mcmconfig.OnGameReload() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?\n\t[alias PlayerAlias on quest dcur_menuconfig (790012C4)].SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.psc" Line ?" [SP+900] 0x1AE2A58E930 (BSScript::Internal::CodeTasklet*) -> (Function: BSScript::Internal::ScriptFunction(File: zbfPlayerControl.psc, Type: zbfplayercontrol, Name: OnPlayerLoadGame)) I really recommend doing what I mentioned before. Setup everything except DCL and SD. make sure everything else is playing nicely. Then pick one, wait for it to initialize. Save, exit, and reload. Make sure you can set up the MCM, then save, exit, and load the other mod. Do the same thing, save, load, configure. Otherwise, I'm not sure what is conflicting with DCL, other than it's not SD+ despite what it feels like. I usually run with both of those mods, and had no issue with the latest conversion I did for SD. Something I've seen elsewhere - try increasing your page file size on the disk where skyrim is installed. Set it to min/max of 20gb and reboot. @Kimy Is there anything you can glean from the crash log that would help explain why the MCM script is throwing errors like this? No papyrus log yet, but if it's like the one I had with Babo, it will have multiple errors related to variables on the mcm scripts. maybe a few others, but mostly just the MCM as I recall. (no, it's a lot of them, if not all) In my experience with this issue with another mod, it basically means that every other load of the same save works, and even when loaded it's still prone to CTDs. Edit: I think this it the papyrus log: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-51-2021-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3494903 And everything DCL script related looks broke. I forgot that there were actually other scripts broke and not just the mcm script. Edited September 1, 2021 by zarantha
zarantha Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 4 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said: . Also, to be sure, you aren't resaving these ESPs are you? DCL had some navmesh errors when I did, and I don't know what else may have been broken. I've seen script errors after resaving a time or two, and both DCL and SD were ESPs that I had to revert back when I last tried it.
YojimboRatchet Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, zarantha said: Also, to be sure, you aren't resaving these ESPs are you? DCL had some navmesh errors when I did, and I don't know what else may have been broken. I've seen script errors after resaving a time or two, and both DCL and SD were ESPs that I had to revert back when I last tried it. nope. I did nothing of the kind. Not experienced enough to understand that whole concept and process with esp resaving and so on. I'll get there eventually i hope...heh ! As for before, the one thing I am not sure if you missed, or if I didn't express it properly, but, everything had been working "ok", even after several saves made, closing the game and MO2, and starting them up again. I didn't remove anything or add anything in that time. I did it at least 3 times this way to "ensure" my game was stable. All the issues started after I removed 2 mods (Milk Maid & Better NPC Support for DD) and added SD+ (latest version), and ever since then as well. At that point, i had around 9 saves. Each I had tracked purposely at to what was loaded in each one. and every save CTD'd except the first 3 which were saves without SexLab and any BDSM mods, those loaded fine (and still do now). each time i remove or add a mod I of course run Loot, FNIS and Bodyslide, as a standard practice. CT's only happen on saves with DCL installed. But I can honestly say that, I have "zero" issues with the MCM showing now for both DCL and DEC, ever since i unchecked SexLab Adventures and SexLab Fame / Fame Comments. the problem right now is the CTD's with every single save where DCL is included (well almost every single one.. I have one save from after i chose "i am a slave.." at Mara's statue, and started at the abandoned camp outside Helgen). I did include the Papyrus Log and the Netscript logs on the DD thread last night, so you can look there easily enough. Now you did mention something earlier though about your own experience when you used Babo mods before, doing all kinds of weird things..... I installed the Babo animation pack (just that one) but that file has no scripts, Just a FOMOD XML file and a json / text file listing the animation, like any other animation, along with the Meshes / Textures folders. I'll get at it again today.. although I am wondering here.. right before i started loading everything, the very last install I made was to update the Netscript from v14 to v16 since it was updated that morning on the 30th. before then, i hadn't even run Loot or gone into the game at all. so no files were ever generated before then. Not discounting this yet, But I will keep looking and use this as an option if I can't figure things out and if you / Kimy / Elsidia can't either on your end. I am attaching my mod order for now, in case you see something i can't. Mod Order.txt (and yeah, that log you linked is the papyrus log i posted in DD) Edited September 1, 2021 by YojimboRatchet
zarantha Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, YojimboRatchet said: All the issues started after I removed 2 mods (Milk Maid & Better NPC Support for DD) and added SD+ (latest version), and ever since then as well. 38 minutes ago, YojimboRatchet said: ever since i unchecked SexLab Adventures and SexLab Fame / Fame Comments. But you still removed mods per your own comments...? Then the previous suggestion still applies. You need to not remove them, or revert to a save before the mods you are removing were added. It's probably easier to start a new game. It does not matter what mod is called out in the CTDs. The fact that you removed mods without reverting to a save where those mods were never enabled, or without starting a new game means the whole save is unstable. Removing mods, especially mods with scripts, midgame is not safe. Even when the mod is removed, the save still has references to the scripts for that removed mod. This means that technically, anything after the very first save after character creation is 'midgame'. Usually the only ones that would be safe are texture replaces. So if you remove a mod and start seeing issues in game with anything else, related or not, your first move should be go back to an earlier save before that mod existed, or if the mod was there from the beginning, start a new save. Cleaning the save may help, but is not a guaranteed fix. I really can't stress that enough. The babo animations were fine. It was some combination of babo dialogue and horrible harrassement. Even though the two are supposed to be integrated, I could not make them work together. Updating netscriptframework should also be fine. The crash log contains your plugin list - just in case you weren't aware. BTW - This isn't even really compatible with DD 4 and is definitely not compatible with DD 5.x. Since the mod was made for DD 3.x (DDi and DDx) it really should not be used. "0215","Captured Dreams SE" https://www.loverslab.com/topic/128463-why-i-removed-captured-dreams-and-my-other-mods/ Quote As far as the state of Captured Dreams and the other mods go regarding DD itself, all of them needed updating to v4.x. Edited September 1, 2021 by zarantha
Kimy Posted September 1, 2021 Author Posted September 1, 2021 I 2 hours ago, zarantha said: Removing mods, especially mods with scripts, midgame is not safe. This. 10,000 times over. Removing a scripted mod mid-playthrough is an absolute recipe for disaster. People still think that all they have to do is running a script cleaner after the fact and that's it. That's NOT it. Unless people really, REALLY know what they are doing, savegame cleaners are snake oil more than anything. Most users would be way better off not even downloading one, because chances are that they are damaging an already damaged save even more. They also make false promises to users that they can safely change their loadorder whenever they want to, and that's just not the case. If you try a new mod and don't like it, the only safe thing to do is removing it, and then revert to the last savegame before installing it.
YojimboRatchet Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, zarantha said: revert to a save before the mods you are removing were added 11 minutes ago, Kimy said: and then revert to the last savegame before installing it. this is exactly what i did, as per my comments above. reverting to saves "before" these mods were installed. those are the ones failing totally and causing CTD's. not the saves after since i know those contained the mods i removed. would make no sense for me to try a save with a mod that used to be there and not there anymore, i'd be asking for trouble then. so as i said before, i go to a save before these mods were installed. and getting CTDs. the errors in both logs show they are not related to any of the missing mods either. i am very concerned about the missing menu params between skyui and dcl... Edited September 1, 2021 by YojimboRatchet
zarantha Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said: this is exactly what i did, as per my comments above. reverting to saves "before" these mods were installed. those are the ones failing totally and causing CTD's. not the saves after since i know those contained the mods i removed. would make no sense for me to try a save with a mod that used to be there and not there anymore, i'd be asking for trouble then. so as i said before, i go to a save before these mods were installed. and getting CTDs. the errors in both logs show they are not related to any of the missing mods either. i am very concerned about the missing menu params between skyui and dcl... Ok, that was not clear. You mentioned removing mods, but not that you reverted to a save before those mods existed. Yeah, those errors are concerning and indicate that DCL is broken. Some things might work, but I wouldn't count on it. If you start a new game with only DCL and it's requirements (using a different profile for this would be easiest), do you see those errors still? If so, try reinstalling and/or redownloading DCL. If not, then something is just borked in that save all the way back to before you were adding the other mods. I'd try adding in the rest of your mods to the new save instead of trying to figure out what went wrong on the other one.
natybs Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 is the 9.0 the latest version with the new inn in riverwood? or is that from the new devious devices? I couldn't find mention of it in the description for this file or the devious devices one.
Elsidia Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, natybs said: is the 9.0 the latest version with the new inn in riverwood? Yes inn (The Whip and Chain inn) is added by DCL 9.0 and contains DCL small games and connect to DCL main quests.
zarantha Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, natybs said: is the 9.0 the latest version with the new inn in riverwood? or is that from the new devious devices? I couldn't find mention of it in the description for this file or the devious devices one. It's there. you just have to scroll. https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5924-deviously-cursed-loot-se-beta-2/ Quote What's New in Version 9.0 Released March 11 Deviously Cursed Loot 9.0 NOTE: DD Version 5.0 or higher is required for this mod. NEW: Bound in Skyrim: Several existing and new quests have been integrated in a seamless bondage-themed quest arc, starting either with the LAL plugin quest Delivery Refused, or (if the LAL start isn't used) Chloe. Offering many hours of content, Bound in Skyrim will continue to get expanded with new quests over time. Right now the quests are Delivery Refused, Chloe, Courier in Chains, Learning The Ropes, Supply and Demand, The Whip and Chain Inn, Bound Queen, and the Cursed Collar. While the quests are meant to be played in a row, at certain points it's still possible to "wander off" and enjoy other content in Skyrim. People who really don't like quest content in general or DCL's in particular can now opt to terminate the Chloe quest when meeting her. This will end the entire quest arc forever, so people can go back to doing other things. There is no way to restart it, though. - Added: The Whip and Chain Inn. Ever thought Skyrim's pubs aren't kinky enough? And right, they aren't really. This one might be up your alley! Recently opened in Riverwood and operated by the Dollmaker's sister, this establishment caters to special interests other pubs do not. They got it all. Food, drinks, and well...whips and chains! There, you can find services like merchants that sell restraints and furniture bondage devices. A friendly locksmith can help you if you misplaced your key for your restraints (or never had it in the first place...). Several playrooms will provide entertainment. If you feel like a challenge you can try to escape restraints or furniture devices. Yes, yes, there are rewards for that!
Sis_User Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 There seems to be bodyslide files missing for certain gears, what I could find out is mainly most of the hobble dresses included with this mod that messes with arms. I found out about this when troubleshooting hands and arms misalignment with those outfits and isolated to only certain outfits from Cursed Loot. I also did a file search for hobble dress through the unzipped mod file to make sure it is not interference with Mod Organizer 2, I am reasonably certain it is not as it returns with no results. Feel free to correct me and tell me how to fix this if it turned out to be user error on my end and thanks in advance!
Magstevo Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Just came to say well done! Your mod is absolutely infuriating! I have the difficulty in DD set to vanilla (easiest) and it STILL takes me upwards of 10-20 attempts to get out of shit. Unlock - can't reach, struggle - to no avail, cut - to no avail, wait 2 hours, repeat. So much fun I could just cry for joy. Not to mention the fkn Chloe quest for fucks sake, Spend a couple hours waddling around Skyrim trying to avoid every wolf cause I can't fight anything, think I'm finally done with it but nope, locked up again now to go get tied up with ropes and spend some more quality time clicking on menu options, waiting and repeating. A word of warning: Using this mod with ineed can be majorly detrimental. Unable to remove a gag to eat anything and starving to death is heaps unfun. If I could make a suggestion, could 'easy' setting actually be easy? I don't see the fun in pressing the same button a dozen or so times and watching a repeated animation fail.
zarantha Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Sis_User said: There seems to be bodyslide files missing for certain gears, what I could find out is mainly most of the hobble dresses included with this mod that messes with arms. I found out about this when troubleshooting hands and arms misalignment with those outfits and isolated to only certain outfits from Cursed Loot. I also did a file search for hobble dress through the unzipped mod file to make sure it is not interference with Mod Organizer 2, I am reasonably certain it is not as it returns with no results. Feel free to correct me and tell me how to fix this if it turned out to be user error on my end and thanks in advance! Hobble Dresses are available assuming you installed correctly, but they are part of DD not DCL. DCL makes use of the DD outfits extensively. There are some missing files for UNP, those are up on the troubleshooting post. If you mean the 3BBB conversion, what is missing are the new straitjacket combos, not hobble dresses. The 3BBB bodyslides are not part of the normal DD install. They might be in the future, if they don't increase the file size of the archive too much. People already have trouble downloading this, no need to make it worse. >.< List of the Hobble Dresses included: CBBE (DD Framework CBBE SE group) <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleDressTransparent"/> UNP (DD Framework UUNP group) <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleDressTransparent"/> What body are you using, and what do you mean by 'hand and arm misalignment'? I've seen no issues on this myself, or reported in the more than 6 months it's been released. I'd assume something like that means you installed the bodyslides for the wrong body. Edit: If you put in hobble on the far right field and uncheck all groups, you'll see just the outfits containing hobble. Edited September 2, 2021 by zarantha 1
DonQuiWho Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Magstevo said: Just came to say well done! Your mod is absolutely infuriating! I have the difficulty in DD set to vanilla (easiest) and it STILL takes me upwards of 10-20 attempts to get out of shit. Unlock - can't reach, struggle - to no avail, cut - to no avail, wait 2 hours, repeat. So much fun I could just cry for joy. Not to mention the fkn Chloe quest for fucks sake, Spend a couple hours waddling around Skyrim trying to avoid every wolf cause I can't fight anything, think I'm finally done with it but nope, locked up again now to go get tied up with ropes and spend some more quality time clicking on menu options, waiting and repeating. A word of warning: Using this mod with ineed can be majorly detrimental. Unable to remove a gag to eat anything and starving to death is heaps unfun. If I could make a suggestion, could 'easy' setting actually be easy? I don't see the fun in pressing the same button a dozen or so times and watching a repeated animation fail. Just think what a public service you are providing though! Irregular posts like this are so therapeutic. The True Masochists here will have doted on your every word.... And @Kimy 's gain in the satisfaction from her achievements will rocket ? 1
Elsidia Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) UPD: edited due to wrong order of answers. 1 hour ago, Magstevo said: Spend a couple hours waddling around Skyrim trying to avoid every wolf LOL - where you find it to be needed? In DCL 9.0 while running Chloe quest traps are disabled and you are free to walk and fight. Spoiler In moment. when Nazeem cast on you non fight restraints you need found only flowers what can be done in city or near a city where no wolves. Later in all places are teleport to necessary place and you complete this part of quest less as half hour in real time. Read a quest description more carefully. 1 hour ago, Magstevo said: Unable to remove a gag to eat anything and starving to death is heaps unfun. Again - this mod is compatible with ineeds. 1) If you have a gag you can speak with nPC and it will feed you. 2) If you are in prison each day spawns food and water. What you can eat and drink even with gag. Edited September 2, 2021 by Elsidia 1
Sis_User Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, zarantha said: Hobble Dresses are available assuming you installed correctly, but they are part of DD not DCL. DCL makes use of the DD outfits extensively. There are some missing files for UNP, those are up on the troubleshooting post. If you mean the 3BBB conversion, what is missing are the new straitjacket combos, not hobble dresses. The 3BBB bodyslides are not part of the normal DD install. They might be in the future, if they don't increase the file size of the archive too much. People already have trouble downloading this, no need to make it worse. >.< List of the Hobble Dresses included: CBBE (DD Framework CBBE SE group) <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteHobbleDressTransparent"/> UNP (DD Framework UUNP group) <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleDress"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleDressOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacket"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketCleavage"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketOpen"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - LeatherHobbleStraitjacketTopless"/> <Member name="DDX - UUNP - EboniteHobbleDressTransparent"/> What body are you using, and what do you mean by 'hand and arm misalignment'? I've seen no issues on this myself, or reported in the more than 6 months it's been released. I'd assume something like that means you installed the bodyslides for the wrong body. Edit: If you put in hobble on the far right field and uncheck all groups, you'll see just the outfits containing hobble. I attached screenshots of the 'hand and arm misalignment'! As for the body I am using it is the CBBE 3BA one, sorry for not including that information @w@ I am also using mod organizer 2 for all of this and followed the pinned PDF guide for setting up the basics. There is also a screenshot of other outfits working normally in the exact same save. Thank you for helping out, it is very much appreciated ヾ(•ω•`)o! Spoiler The last screenshot is the one working correctly! PS. Another unrelated issue, I am having trouble triggering the cursed collar quest normally, even with the event weight of everything else set to 0, cursed collar set to 100 and base chance also set to 100%. I enabled the debug messages and it when DCUR are starting events it always failed. Tested this by going through the entire bleak falls barrow dungeon ╯︿╰ The cursed collar item are present and I can spawn it using additemmenu, equipping it puts the quest in my journal but the quest instruction leaves little leads. Other events like parasite and normal restraints triggers just fine. Edited September 3, 2021 by Sis_User Added bug?
zarantha Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sis_User said: I attached screenshots of the 'hand and arm misalignment'! As for the body I am using it is the CBBE 3BA one, sorry for not including that information @w@ I am also using mod organizer 2 for all of this and followed the pinned PDF guide for setting up the basics. There is also a screenshot of other outfits working normally in the exact same save. Thank you for helping out, it is very much appreciated ヾ(•ω•`)o! Reveal hidden contents The last screenshot is the one working correctly! Ok, and you installed the CBBE outfits for DD and DCL? And then installed the 4.3 3BBB outfits after for DD? The wrists for both CBBE and 3BBB are exactly the same, because 3BBB was based on CBBE. So with those mismatches, it does look like you may have installed UNP instead. I'd recommend reinstalling and make sure you select CBBE for the main mods. Then get the 3BBB conversions installed after them and rebuild all the DD and DCL outfits. I've got DCL's 3BBB files attached in the troubleshooting post. DD 3BBB bodyslides: When you're done installing, the order should be like below. The 3BBB bodyslides don't conflict with the main mods. Devious Devices Deviously Cursed Loot Devious Devices 4.3 3BA Bodyslides Deviously Cursed Loot 3BBB Bodyslides Bodyslide batch build output (whatever you named the bodyslide output folder as. it may also be in overwrite) Edit: Make sure you don't have anything else providing devices that would overwrite DD or the bodyslide files and outputs. I don't actually recall a blue hobble outfit anywhere in DD or DCL. The blue outfit looks like it might need forearms checked in the armor addon in the esp. if you can, please provide the in game name of that outfit. Edited September 3, 2021 by zarantha 1
Sis_User Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, zarantha said: Ok, and you installed the CBBE outfits for DD and DCL? And then installed the 4.3 3BBB outfits after for DD? The wrists for both CBBE and 3BBB are exactly the same, because 3BBB was based on CBBE. So with those mismatches, it does look like you may have installed UNP instead. I'd recommend reinstalling and make sure you select CBBE for the main mods. Then get the 3BBB conversions installed after them and rebuild all the DD and DCL outfits. I've got DCL's 3BBB files attached in the troubleshooting post. DD 3BBB bodyslides: When you're done installing, the order should be like below. The 3BBB bodyslides don't conflict with the main mods. Devious Devices Deviously Cursed Loot Devious Devices 4.3 3BA Bodyslides Deviously Cursed Loot 3BBB Bodyslides Bodyslide batch build output (whatever you named the bodyslide output folder as. it may also be in overwrite) Edit: Make sure you don't have anything else providing devices that would overwrite DD or the bodyslide files and outputs. I don't actually recall a blue hobble outfit anywhere in DD or DCL. The blue outfit looks like it might need forearms checked in the armor addon in the esp. if you can, please provide the in game name of that outfit. I should have mentioned despite using the 3BA body I selected default CBBE curvy shape instead of the amazing body shape so that may not be the cause of this issue? I am also pretty sure I installed the CBBE outfits for both mods, just not the 3BA bodyslides. Regardless though I will try reinstalling them to make sure and if the issue persists also try the 3BA bodyslides. Wish me luck （；´д｀）ゞ!
zarantha Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sis_User said: I should have mentioned despite using the 3BA body I selected default CBBE curvy shape instead of the amazing body shape so that may not be the cause of this issue? I am also pretty sure I installed the CBBE outfits for both mods, just not the 3BA bodyslides. Regardless though I will try reinstalling them to make sure and if the issue persists also try the 3BA bodyslides. Wish me luck （；´д｀）ゞ! Good luck! It won't be the preset, I use the CBBE Curvy preset myself and there's no issues like you've seen. Actually one more idea - make sure you downloaded the SE version of DD and you don't have any separate downloads of DDa, DDi, DDx, or DDc. The LE CBBE body is not the same as the SE CBBE body and could also get you seams like that. If you need to re-download, the link to the download page is on the first post of this thread. 1
Sis_User Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, zarantha said: Good luck! It won't be the preset, I use the CBBE Curvy preset myself and there's no issues like you've seen. Actually one more idea - make sure you downloaded the SE version of DD and you don't have any separate downloads of DDa, DDi, DDx, or DDc. The LE CBBE body is not the same as the SE CBBE body and could also get you seams like that. If you need to re-download, the link to the download page is on the first post of this thread. Good news! The AIO 3BA bodyslide files seem to have fixed it as far as I can tell! \(@^0^@)/ Thank you so much! The issue persisted even after reinstalling the two mods but installing the bodyslide file and running batch build fixed it. Bad news is I seem to found a new bug that is either always there or caused by reinstalling DCL, cursed loot trigger events seems to triggers the wrong event. When the rubber doll collar weight is set to 100 and everything else is 0, a slave panel gag event is triggered and equipped instead of the collar. /_ \ On top of that I still cannot get the cursed collar quest to trigger correct as well. (っ °Д °;)っ Going to try and start a new save and quickly run through a dungeon to see if that fixes it. <(＿ ＿)> Edited September 3, 2021 by Sis_User Format fix!
Elsidia Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, Sis_User said: When the rubber doll collar weight is set to 100 and everything else is 0, a slave panel gag event is triggered and equipped instead of the collar. This isn't bad news. This is DCL 9.0 bug. In scripts are added wrong scrip after traps moved to another script. Kimy knows and i hope it will be fixed in next DCL version. 1
Elsidia Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sis_User said: I am having trouble triggering the cursed collar quest normally I just test this quest - it triggers - probably you have some active quest running and it disables another quest, you wear a DD collar or item what block collar slot or maybe first you need complete Bound in Skyrim quest line (last quest in this line is Cursed collar to allow it trigger in events) Edited September 3, 2021 by Elsidia 1
Lisette11 Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 When a rape scene is supposed to start, after the text "you are being pushed to the ground!" text everyone just stands there no matter how long I wait. Otherwise scenes do start ok. Also is Sexlab Separate Orgasms compatible?
Sis_User Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Elsidia said: I just test this quest - it triggers - probably you have some active quest running and it disables another quest, you wear a DD collar or item what block collar slot or maybe first you need complete Bound in Skyrim quest line (last quest in this line is Cursed collar to allow it trigger in events) I tried to trigger it in a completely new save, selected mage's guild for alternate start, revealed all location with tmm command and fast traveled to bleak falls barrow. The only active quest is the first lesson quest from the mage's guild, I even tried leveling up to level 2 first to see if that was what was causing the error. The debug message always says error triggering event. ≡(▔﹏▔)≡ I would generate a papyrus log quickly for you but I am way too tired to figure out how to do that all over again so I will leave a mod list just in case there is some conflict causing this, thanks for replying and trying to help! Spoiler #Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name "0000","+","DLC: HearthFires" "0001","+","DLC: Dragonborn" "0002","+","DLC: Dawnguard" "0003","+","SKSE Scripts 2.00.19" "0004","+","SKSE64 ini pre-download for lazy users" "0005","+","Address Library for SKSE Plugins" "0006","+","Mfg Fix" "0007","+","Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice" "0008","+","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions" "0009","+","JContainers SE" "0010","+","powerofthree's Papyrus Extender" "0011","+","SkyUI" "0012","+","RaceMenu" "0013","+","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE" "0014","+","Animation Limit Crash Fix SSE" "0015","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-" "0016","+","BodySlide and Outfit Studio" "0017","+","Fair Skin Complexion" "0018","+","Botox For Skyrim SE" "0019","+","Schlongs of Skyrim SE" "0020","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended" "0021","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - Fixed Scripts" "0022","+","Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE" "0023","+","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch" "0024","+","SexLabFrameworkSE_v" "0025","+","SexlabAmmoUnequip v" "0026","+","Sexlab LightMeUp SE" "0027","+","SLAL_SE" "0028","+","UIExtensions" "0029","+","SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)" "0030","+","Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim" "0031","+","Better MessageBox Controls" "0032","+","Vivid Weathers - Definitive Edition" "0033","+","Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim" "0034","+","Realistic Water Two SE" "0035","+","AddItemMenu - Ultimate Mod Explorer" "0036","+","Static Mesh Improvement Mod" "0037","+","Skyrim 2020 Parallax by Pfuscher" "0038","+","SexLabArousedSSELoose" "0040","+","Devious Devices" "0041","+","Dripping when aroused" "0042","+","Deviously Cursed Loot" "0043","+","TTT_SLAR_Animation_Appropriate_Arousal_Adjustments" "0044","+","Better NPC Support for Devious Devices" "0045","+","ApachiiSkyHair SSE" "0046","+","Ruins Clutter Improved" "0047","+","Devious Lore SE v" "0048","+","KS Hairdos SSE" "0049","+","SexLab Separate Orgasm" "0050","+","Better Jumping SE" "0051","+","NPC AI Process Position Fix - SSE" "0052","+","Better Dialogue Controls" "0053","+","Easy Lockpicking" "0054","+","Experience Multipliers (MCM sliders for each skill)" "0055","+","Audio Overhaul for Skyrim SE" "0056","+","Unofficial Material Fix" "0057","+","Enchantment Reload Fix SE" "0058","+","Equip Enchantment Fix" "0059","+",".NET Script Framework" "0061","+","SLSO_F_VP_Eliz" "0062","+","SLSO_F_VP_Maria" "0063","+","SLSO_F_VP_The Girl Next Door" "0064","+","SL_Advanced_Cum_Stages_v" "0065","+","Deviously Helpless SE v" "0066","+","SLU Resumed" "0067","+","SlaveTatsSE" "0068","+","Suspicious Gold Starter" "0069","+","Simple Slavery Plus Plus" "0070","+","SexLab Sanguine" "0071","+","_SanguinesDebaucheryEnhancedSEResources" "0072","+","SL Defeat SSE" "0073","+","Billyy's SLAL Original Creature Animations 1.2" "0074","+","Billyy's SLAL Animations 4.7" "0075","+","SD Cages" "0076","+","SubmissiveLolaResubmission" "0077","+","SubmissiveLolaEsturk_" "0078","+","Racemenu Presets Collection" "0079","+","R246 Female Presets for RaceMenu and ECE" "0081","+","Radiant Prostitution" "0084","+","HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)" "0085","+","ZaZ Animation Pack" (8+ SE Conversion) "0086","+","A Huge RaceMenu Preset Collection" "0087","+","CBBE 3BA" "0088","+","DD 4.3 AIO 3BA Bodyslide Files 1.0.1"
Celedhring Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 6:31 AM, Magstevo said: Just came to say well done! Your mod is absolutely infuriating! I have the difficulty in DD set to vanilla (easiest) and it STILL takes me upwards of 10-20 attempts to get out of shit. Unlock - can't reach, struggle - to no avail, cut - to no avail, wait 2 hours, repeat. So much fun I could just cry for joy. Not to mention the fkn Chloe quest for fucks sake, Spend a couple hours waddling around Skyrim trying to avoid every wolf cause I can't fight anything, think I'm finally done with it but nope, locked up again now to go get tied up with ropes and spend some more quality time clicking on menu options, waiting and repeating. A word of warning: Using this mod with ineed can be majorly detrimental. Unable to remove a gag to eat anything and starving to death is heaps unfun. If I could make a suggestion, could 'easy' setting actually be easy? I don't see the fun in pressing the same button a dozen or so times and watching a repeated animation fail. Kimy's the debbil, I tell you. The debbil. And thanks for the laugh. XD 1
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