Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[YojimboRatchet]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I'd recommend reverting back to a save before you killed belethor.

 

If you can't then don't spawn a new one, try resurrecting him instead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/1kjlsk/pc_only_foolproof_guide_to_resurrecting_npcs/

 

 

This also works nicely.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11450?tab=description

[Hatoc123]

9 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I'd recommend reverting back to a save before you killed belethor.

 

If you can't then don't spawn a new one, try resurrecting him instead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/1kjlsk/pc_only_foolproof_guide_to_resurrecting_npcs/

 

Even after going through that guide with the quest icon now above him the dialoge option just doesnt appear and loading a save would make me lose more than ten hours of gameplay so I'm just going to go back to before I talked to cloe and just use the abandon chat line you put in its a shame but its how its going to have to go

[pappana]

Courier in chains is by far the most annoying quest ive ever done, i liked when the dollmaker just let the player go after doing all that shit for nazeem.

 

I cant even fast travel and my poor wood elf got raped and beaten up in every god damn town she visited and she's not even done yet.

 

When i get free im gonna lock up chloe in the most hardcore restraints i can find, put a plug in her then put a chastity belt on and just let her suffer.

 

Then im gonna beat the dollmaker into submission, take her as a slave and sell her to laura or to the captured dreams owner. after that im gonna kill nazeem and go on a killing spree and take revenge on every single person who raped my elf.

 

God damn im pissed off! Just you wait i will get my revenge?

 

EDIT: not even done... well she did unlock me and she paid me so maybe ill let her keep her freedom, but chloe is definelty getting sold, that little turd got me into this and ill make sure she pays for it.

Edited September 18, 2021 by pappana

[Elsidia]

19 minutes ago, pappana said:

y poor wood elf got raped and beaten up in every god damn town she visited

While running Chloe, learning the ropes and probably Courier in chains rape is disabled. In each city are fast teleport even in Dawnstar. Seems you can guilty another your mod what is interfere with DCL for rape.

[pappana]

35 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

While running Chloe, learning the ropes and probably Courier in chains rape is disabled. In each city are fast teleport even in Dawnstar. Seems you can guilty another your mod what is interfere with DCL for rape.

 

Fast teleport only works if the actuall cartdriver is there, most times theyre either near their tent or off somewhere and trying to find them in the darkness of night while being so aroused your screen literally see double is quite the challenge. And windhelms blizzard makes me walk even slower while also blinding me like my double screen wasnt enough.

 

but even if i had all those features who made this probably the hardest quest ive ever done turned off walking all the way to the carts themselves is super annoying.

 

COC probably saved me atleast 30 minutes.

 

But i know i made this harder on myself im not blaming kimy im just venting my annoyance anyway i have some ways to get revenge on all those people anyway.

[Kimy]

18 hours ago, gubertpol1 said:

Sasha told me to play with myself and then got mad at me for playing with myself. Is this intentional?

 

Not intentional. Still funny, though!

[YojimboRatchet]

7 minutes ago, Kimy said:

 

Not intentional. Still funny, though!

 

so glad I am not the only one who thought this was funny

[Elsidia]

43 minutes ago, pappana said:

Fast teleport only works if the actuall cartdriver is there,

I have no clue what version of Skyrim you play. For me always cartdriver are on cart no matter day or night.

 

[pappana]

12 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

I have no clue what version of Skyrim you play. For me always cartdriver are on cart no matter day or night.

 

 

If you install campfire, theyre never on their carts theyre either sleeping in their close by tent or off somewhere(they never go too far but they can wander off while their guard stay watch although i think the guard is from interesting NPC's)

 

The boat driver in dawnstar has his tent clipping through the dollmakers stairs wich is pretty funny

Edited September 18, 2021 by pappana

[Elsidia]

16 minutes ago, pappana said:

If you install campfire,

Then on what is guilty DCL? Cartdrivers in original is on place, no rape in original.

Edited September 18, 2021 by Elsidia

[pappana]

18 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Then on what is guilty DCL? Cartdrivers in original is on place, no rape in original.

 

I didnt get that, what do you mean?

 

You asking whats causing the rape? Its Deviously enslaved and SD+

 

The missing driver is from campfire and is working as intended just that this time he wasnt anywhere and being both blinded by darkness(darker nights mod) and my screen being screwed up due to my charas arousal being so high(caused by drripping when wet)

 

it made it near impossible to find one npc among the dozens who were there(caused by interesting NPC's)

Edited September 18, 2021 by pappana

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, pappana said:

I didnt get that, what do you mean?

I'm asking why you are so mad on DCL, if DCL cause no rape, no missing drivers, no long annoying play in quests?

Edited September 18, 2021 by Elsidia

[pappana]

49 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

I'm asking why you are so mad on DCL, if DCL cause no rape, no missing drivers, no long annoying play in quests?

 

Well your right about the 2 first parts but i guess you havent done the quests cause that last one isnt even remotely true.

 

The chloe quest has some really long segments where all you do is walk and you walk so slow it takes forever. I cheated by teleporting and it saved me in total up to now probably an hour and im still not done after 5 hours of play.

 

I do like this quest but the loooooooooooooooong walks is enough to drive anyone to the point of annoyance.

 

And seriously im still not done. I really hope supply and demand is the last objective. 

 

I know i said i dont intend to hurt the dollmaker but seriously when i finish her errands or whatever ill tie her up and sell her to nazeem.

 

Kimy your mod is amazing but damn girl give me a break.

 

I should have left chloe in that cell forever...

[Elsidia]

9 hours ago, pappana said:

but i guess you havent done the quests cause that last one isnt even remotely true.

In DCL 8.5 i complete Chloe quest 2 or 3 times.

In DCL 9.0 i complete Chloe quest (tied part in 30 minutes maybe little more)

Courier in chains the same.

All Bound in Skyrim quest line i complete in 1 day. Maybe 1,5 day. Include The Bound Queen and Cursed collar.

I got triggered later Damsel in distress quest. This take a more time because there must be many keys. I always collect an lot of keys and store in my house but still this was not enough. And all without fast travel.

UPD: i got completed this quest twice -in one time in DCL 8.5 (first) and one time in DCL 9.0 (faster, i know what i need keep in my house for it)

 

UPD: i play Skyrim only because there is awesome mod DCL. I don't like Skyrim either.

UPD2: I complete quest Captured princess about 5 - 6 times. And enjoy it.

Edited September 19, 2021 by Elsidia

[pappana]

11 hours ago, Elsidia said:

In DCL 9.0 i complete Chloe quest (tied part in 30 minutes maybe little more)

Courier in chains the same.

All Bound in Skyrim quest line i complete in 1 day.

 

That is some complete bullshit lies, it is impossible even if you only have DCL installed due to the fact that you walk so slow.

 

EDIT: Kimy i take all my previous comments back, the reward for completing this whole thing is simply awesome and made suffering through this nightmare worth it.

 

Dollmaker i will spare you from a life of slavery and chloe... youre growing on me

 

Edited September 19, 2021 by pappana

[YojimboRatchet]

Is there a way to increase the font size on screen messages at all ?

 

sometimes I get messages where the font is large, and sometimes the font is so small that i can even read it at all or tell what letters they are even with reading glasses...

[zarantha]

20 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said:

Is there a way to increase the font size on screen messages at all ?

 

sometimes I get messages where the font is large, and sometimes the font is so small that i can even read it at all or tell what letters they are even with reading glasses...

 

Some dialog mods, less intrusive hud II (move and scale elements), or skyui are the only ones i know.

The small font is related to longer messages from what I've seen.

What may also work for you, if the font is normally ok, is a mod that saves all those messages in the corner to read later.  notification log: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27707

 

Haven't forgotten about your SS++ issue, but no chance to look into it this weekend. Stayed away from the PC due to a migraine and now I play catch up.

I've put it on the list to check, but i've got nothing immediate.

[NoppaiKohai]

Anyone know what causes the issue where Cursed Loot doesn't show up in the MCM? It's running  and even works, and even says initialized on a new game etc, but doesn't show up in MCM and I can't configure it

[zarantha]

20 minutes ago, NoppaiKohai said:

Anyone know what causes the issue where Cursed Loot doesn't show up in the MCM? It's running  and even works, and even says initialized on a new game etc, but doesn't show up in MCM and I can't configure it

 

It's just being a stubborn jerk. it's a skyui issue, or skyrim issue, not really a DCL issue. I've seen it with other mods too.

 

Kimy DCL MCM initialization: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v85-2020-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3205086

 

1. Start a new game.
2. Wait 30 secs, or not at all. It's really just telling Skyrim that you MEAN it. Or so.
3. Quit to menu.
4. Start another new game.
5. Enjoy.

 

 

If you've played the game some and don't want to go back to a new game again, you can try the mcm kicker: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36801?tab=posts&BH=0

All it does is just periodically run the command: setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

So you can try just the command too.

 

Or if that doesn't work there's the nuke from orbit method. This isn't recommended, but does work most times. If you want a clean method rather than the dirty one here, new game is the only way. If you can't make this work, you must do a new game.

 

1. Save and exit the game - preferably save in a small room with no or minimal npcs.

2. Disable DCL ( the whole mod, not just the plugin)

3. Load the game, wait 5 or so minutes and save. don't go anywhere, just hang out

4. Clean the save with fallrim tools

5. Load the game, wait a few minutes and save (to make sure the save isn't borked)

6. Enable DCL again

7. Don't save until you see the MCM. If you need to, exit to menu without saving then load again

8. Once it shows, set it up and save.

[Roggvir]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

It's just being a stubborn jerk. it's a skyui issue, or skyrim issue, not really a DCL issue. I've seen it with other mods too.

 

Kimy DCL MCM initialization: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v85-2020-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3205086

 

1. Start a new game.
2. Wait 30 secs, or not at all. It's really just telling Skyrim that you MEAN it. Or so.
3. Quit to menu.
4. Start another new game.
5. Enjoy.

 

 

If you've played the game some and don't want to go back to a new game again, you can try the mcm kicker: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36801?tab=posts&BH=0

All it does is just periodically run the command: setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

So you can try just the command too.

 

Or if that doesn't work there's the nuke from orbit method. This isn't recommended, but does work most times. If you want a clean method rather than the dirty one here, new game is the only way. If you can't make this work, you must do a new game.

 

1. Save and exit the game - preferably save in a small room with no or minimal npcs.

2. Disable DCL ( the whole mod, not just the plugin)

3. Load the game, wait 5 or so minutes and save. don't go anywhere, just hang out

4. Clean the save with fallrim tools

5. Load the game, wait a few minutes and save (to make sure the save isn't borked)

6. Enable DCL again

7. Don't save until you see the MCM. If you need to, exit to menu without saving then load again

8. Once it shows, set it up and save.

 

I would also stress that when starting a new game, ppl should add DD and DCL one by one:

1. Start a new game with only the basic/core mods
   Things like SexLab, SL Aroused Redux, SOS, maybe ZAP, but not DD or DCL.
2. Setup what you can in MCM, make save and quit the game.
3. Now install/activate Devious Devices
   Load the save you made, wait for the DD's MCM menu to initialize and use it to setup as much of DD as you can.
   Then make a save and quit the game.
4. Now install/activate Deviously Cursed Loot
   Load the save you made, wait for DCL's MCM to initialize and use it to setup as much of DCL as you can.
5. Then add the other mods that depend on or tie into DD or DCL
   Things like Defeat, Devious Followers, Simple Slavery, Submissive Lola, etc.
   Most of these should be ok to add all at once, but of course it won't hurt if you split the load and install just few of these at a time.

I often had problems with DD or DCL when i started a new game and forgot they are both installed/activated already.
I suspect there may be some situation when some mod (could be DD or DCL or some other mod) creates a deadlock in the MCM script of DD or DCL, and installing them one by one prevents this situation from occuring.

[YojimboRatchet]

10 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

It's just being a stubborn jerk. it's a skyui issue, or skyrim issue, not really a DCL issue. I've seen it with other mods too.

 

Kimy DCL MCM initialization: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v85-2020-03-24/?do=findComment&comment=3205086

 

1. Start a new game.
2. Wait 30 secs, or not at all. It's really just telling Skyrim that you MEAN it. Or so.
3. Quit to menu.
4. Start another new game.
5. Enjoy.

 

 

If you've played the game some and don't want to go back to a new game again, you can try the mcm kicker: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36801?tab=posts&BH=0

All it does is just periodically run the command: setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

So you can try just the command too.

 

Or if that doesn't work there's the nuke from orbit method. This isn't recommended, but does work most times. If you want a clean method rather than the dirty one here, new game is the only way. If you can't make this work, you must do a new game.

 

1. Save and exit the game - preferably save in a small room with no or minimal npcs.

2. Disable DCL ( the whole mod, not just the plugin)

3. Load the game, wait 5 or so minutes and save. don't go anywhere, just hang out

4. Clean the save with fallrim tools

5. Load the game, wait a few minutes and save (to make sure the save isn't borked)

6. Enable DCL again

7. Don't save until you see the MCM. If you need to, exit to menu without saving then load again

8. Once it shows, set it up and save.

 

8 hours ago, Roggvir said:

 

I would also stress that when starting a new game, ppl should add DD and DCL one by one:

1. Start a new game with only the basic/core mods
   Things like SexLab, SL Aroused Redux, SOS, maybe ZAP, but not DD or DCL.
2. Setup what you can in MCM, make save and quit the game.
3. Now install/activate Devious Devices
   Load the save you made, wait for the DD's MCM menu to initialize and use it to setup as much of DD as you can.
   Then make a save and quit the game.
4. Now install/activate Deviously Cursed Loot
   Load the save you made, wait for DCL's MCM to initialize and use it to setup as much of DCL as you can.
5. Then add the other mods that depend on or tie into DD or DCL
   Things like Defeat, Devious Followers, Simple Slavery, Submissive Lola, etc.
   Most of these should be ok to add all at once, but of course it won't hurt if you split the load and install just few of these at a time.

I often had problems with DD or DCL when i started a new game and forgot they are both installed/activated already.
I suspect there may be some situation when some mod (could be DD or DCL or some other mod) creates a deadlock in the MCM script of DD or DCL, and installing them one by one prevents this situation from occuring.

 

11 hours ago, NoppaiKohai said:

Anyone know what causes the issue where Cursed Loot doesn't show up in the MCM? It's running  and even works, and even says initialized on a new game etc, but doesn't show up in MCM and I can't configure it

 

And just to add.. IF you have EasyWheel in your load.. get rid of it.. THAT mod breaks DCL and a few others, and prevents the MCM from showing up in most cases. If you're still having issues, maybe post your mod list here, and a Netscript  / papyrus log as these may help others try to help you solve your problem

[Kimy]

10 hours ago, Roggvir said:

 

I would also stress that when starting a new game, ppl should add DD and DCL one by one:

1. Start a new game with only the basic/core mods
   Things like SexLab, SL Aroused Redux, SOS, maybe ZAP, but not DD or DCL.
2. Setup what you can in MCM, make save and quit the game.
3. Now install/activate Devious Devices
   Load the save you made, wait for the DD's MCM menu to initialize and use it to setup as much of DD as you can.
   Then make a save and quit the game.
4. Now install/activate Deviously Cursed Loot
   Load the save you made, wait for DCL's MCM to initialize and use it to setup as much of DCL as you can.
5. Then add the other mods that depend on or tie into DD or DCL
   Things like Defeat, Devious Followers, Simple Slavery, Submissive Lola, etc.
   Most of these should be ok to add all at once, but of course it won't hurt if you split the load and install just few of these at a time.

I often had problems with DD or DCL when i started a new game and forgot they are both installed/activated already.
I suspect there may be some situation when some mod (could be DD or DCL or some other mod) creates a deadlock in the MCM script of DD or DCL, and installing them one by one prevents this situation from occuring.

 

In my experience, that's rarely necessary. The "start a new game, then quit to menu and start another new game" method seems to work 100% of the time, even with heavier load-orders.

[Roggvir]

2 hours ago, Kimy said:

 

In my experience, that's rarely necessary. The "start a new game, then quit to menu and start another new game" method seems to work 100% of the time, even with heavier load-orders.

It depends on what other mod(s) are present at the time, but i am too lazy to find out what it is.
I never experienced the particular problem of DD or DCL menu not appearing.
My problem used to be the DD's MCM getting deadlocked (it shows up in MCM, but remains empty) on nearly every new game start, no matter how i went about it, until i started doing it the way i described.
I imagine the cause could be something like script A is accessing something that DD's MCM needs to access too. But A got there first and locked that resource, so DD's MCM has to wait for A to finish and release the lock.
But A itself ended up waiting for access to B which is already waiting to access the same resource A has locked.

Of course, it could be just me, my load order, so you are right that at least unless ppl start getting these problems, they shouldn't need to do it the way i suggested.
But it may be worth mentioning in some troubleshooting section as one more thing to try, IF people run into problems when starting new game.

Edited September 21, 2021 by Roggvir

[NoppaiKohai]

Hmm even rapid quit reload isn't making DCL load in MCM, I'm 99% it's related to using ODefeat and all it's pre-reqs though

 

 

[DollarBills]

Hello, I would like to report an issue I have been having on the latest versions of DCL and DD

 

I am having an issue with cursed loot failing to equip devices during cursed loot events. When testing the mod using the "tie me up" feature as well as force equipping full sets when triggering cursed loot events, multiple devices consistently fail to equip.

 

When attempting to equip a full set, cursed loot is consistently able to equip leg cuffs, arm cuffs, and a collar, and sometimes piercings, but then stops equipping devices and fails to equip a full set. Trying to equip a second full set afterwards seems to be commonly successful at applying the rest of a full set. While I don't know what is causing this, my best guess is some error with equipping the chastity devices as these are the devices that seem to fail being equipped the most.

 

All devices seem to have no problems being equipped individually from inventory. The issue only occurs when attempting to equip devices through scripts.

 

This problem persists even in a bare-bones load order consisting of only cursed loot and all required mods such as sexlab, aroused, etc.

 

If anyone knows of a fix for this issue, or has other suggestions to fix it, I would greatly appreciate hearing it.

 

Thank you