Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Elsidia]

17 minutes ago, Sis_User said:

I even tried leveling up to level 2 first to see if that was what was causing the error

While you are below level 3, triggers only standard traps. Better level to level 4 (it must work on 3 level too) and then start triggering other events like cursed loot collar and others.

Also check MCM DCL debug section if there Active quest running is false. If true no one trap trigger it's mean then some DCL quest is running. Just for be sure need to check. (i read about your active quests).

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, Lisette11 said:

When a rape scene is supposed to start, after the text "you  are being pushed to the ground!" text everyone just stands there no matter how long I wait. Otherwise scenes do start ok. Also is Sexlab Separate Orgasms compatible?

 

SLSO should be compatible - none of the scripts overlap.

 

The issue with everyone standing around is a sexlab issue. Bring up the console or menu to give the scripts a chance to catch up, then close them out again and the scene should continue.

[Lisette11]

59 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

SLSO should be compatible - none of the scripts overlap.

 

The issue with everyone standing around is a sexlab issue. Bring up the console or menu to give the scripts a chance to catch up, then close them out again and the scene should continue.

Thank you very much! But why only with that one prompt? I mean when the scene starts without that particular text, the scene starts automatically, even if a at times it takes a few extra seconds.

Edited September 3, 2021 by Lisette11

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Lisette11 said:

Thank you very much! But why only with that one prompt? I mean when the scene starts without that particular text, the scene starts automatically, even if a at times it takes a few extra seconds.

 

So you've got a bunch of scripts going, your normal stuff while you play the game, then sexlab needs to run. Ok, more scripts. But DD intercepts because it needs to make sure the sex animation is legal for any devices you are wearing. so more scripts. Skyrim has to sort through all of that before the scene can set up.

 

Then you add in a defeat scenario, so defeat is checking for it's animations as well, so you're adding on an additional set of scripts on top of all that. It could very well be what is tipping it over to a noticeable script lag for you.

[Sis_User]

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

While you are below level 3, triggers only standard traps. Better level to level 4 (it must work on 3 level too) and then start triggering other events like cursed loot collar and others.

Also check MCM DCL debug section if there Active quest running is false. If true no one trap trigger it's mean then some DCL quest is running. Just for be sure need to check. (i read about your active quests).

I also checked the minimum level setting in MCM and it is at 1, other none standard traps like parasite, damsel in distress, bondage adventure and even simple slavery auction triggers normally while cursed collar does not. ~(>_<。)＼

[zarantha]

6 minutes ago, Sis_User said:

I also checked the minimum level setting in MCM and it is at 1, other none standard traps like parasite, damsel in distress, bondage adventure and even simple slavery auction triggers normally while cursed collar does not. ~(>_<。)＼

 

The level three limitation was specified in scripts, not the MCM. I don't think that has been fixed yet. To check, it's best to be above level 3.

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

The level three limitation was specified in scripts, not the MCM.

2 hours ago, Sis_User said:

I also checked the minimum level setting in MCM and it is at 1,

I was wrong: strong script level check is in other part of DCL and hit only standard traps.

But while i checking it, i found answer why you can't hit cursed collar event trap.

I suspect it before, but now i found proof.

In DCL 9.0 cursed collar event can't hit, if you not complete main DCL quest line The bound in Skyrim. Only after complete cursed collar quest from Whip and Chain inn you can start trigger it as random event.

If you still not not completed it, it ignore cursed collar event. In event chosen procedure is scripted into that.

 

[zarantha]

30 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

I was wrong: strong script level check is in other part of DCL and hit only standard traps.

But while i checking it, i found answer why you can't hit cursed collar event trap.

I suspect it before, but now i found proof.

In DCL 9.0 cursed collar event can't hit, if you not complete main DCL quest line The bound in Skyrim. Only after complete cursed collar quest from Whip and Chain inn you can start trigger it as random event.

If you still not not completed it, it ignore cursed collar event. In event chosen procedure is scripted into that.

 

 

I thought cursed collar and rubber collar were two different things

[Sis_User]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

The level three limitation was specified in scripts, not the MCM. I don't think that has been fixed yet. To check, it's best to be above level 3.

I also did the test with another previous save that I purged after the reinstall, that character was at level 4 and the event trigger still failed. （；´д｀）ゞ

6 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I was wrong: strong script level check is in other part of DCL and hit only standard traps.

But while i checking it, i found answer why you can't hit cursed collar event trap.

I suspect it before, but now i found proof.

In DCL 9.0 cursed collar event can't hit, if you not complete main DCL quest line The bound in Skyrim. Only after complete cursed collar quest from Whip and Chain inn you can start trigger it as random event.

If you still not not completed it, it ignore cursed collar event. In event chosen procedure is scripted into that.

 

Well that is good to know, time to do the main quest line then! Thank you for finding this out for me~! ( •̀ ω •́ )✧

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I thought cursed collar and rubber collar were two different things

It is, the specific bug I encounter with the rubber doll collar event is that instead of equipping the rubber doll collar it equipped the slave gag instead. Elsidia said that it is a bug from this mod and not an user error on my end.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Sis_User
Small correction!

[Elsidia]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

I thought cursed collar and rubber collar were two different things

Yes rubber doll collar is random event quest and are bugged into DCL 9.0 by script migration.  Instead of rubber doll collar it's equip slave gag because script checks if rubber doll event needs activate and instead of this quest, activate slave gag event.

Cursed collar quest is last in The bound in Skyrim quest line and before it's completed random cursed collar quest from traps aborted.  Work  as planned.

[terrordrone]

Hi, I'm currently stuck in the Dominate quest with Leah. I find it quite annoying, irritative and kinda want it to end. I can't find any options related to "Leah" or "dominate quest"  in MCM to tweak it. I even try using the "Free me" option in the "debug" section, yet the quest doesnt stop. I need some help please.

Edited September 4, 2021 by terrordrone

[Elsidia]

18 minutes ago, terrordrone said:

I need some help please.

If you want end this quest legally and as must fast, there is bugged variation to end by using cheats and Dominated quest bug:

 

Spoiler

1) Attempt to steal a key from Leash.

2) Do it while key is steal and never mind about punish restraints on. /bugged as i think you can steal key even if hands are tied/

3) When key is steal, save a game and remove all restraints with key /bugged restraints/

4) If Leah add new remove it all. /bugged restraints/

5) Wait while real timer tick next step of get key combination in left corner of debug messages. 30 sec per tick i assume?

6) If success save game again. /Cheat/ Load a save and wait while tick is successful. Then save a game.  Without cheat: repeat stage 1)

7) After few successful ticks combination is found and you are free. Not count a time but probably quest can end with cheat less then 30 minutes RL - if random god are lucky for you.

 

 

 

 

[Roggvir]

On 3/11/2021 at 7:51 PM, Kimy said:

- Changed: Supply and Demand: The lost shipment is now in the first boss chest you open. No more need to explore multiple dungeon to get it done.

I have the quest, and i went to Fort Greenwall, killed the chief inside Captain Quarters, opened the boss chest, and... no shipment.
I noticed the location is not "clearable" - could that be the problem? is "clearable cell" a requirement that isn't mentioned?

EDIT: hmm, the shipment appeared in the chest in Broken Helm Hollow, and that is clearable location, so i think that may be it.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Roggvir

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, Roggvir said:

I have the quest, and i went to Fort Greenwall, killed the chief inside Captain Quarters,

Probably this ornate (boss) chest isn't in DCL loot list, because there no loot. Like no DCL loot in ornate chest near the whiterun bandit cave. Because this chest is outside of cave.

If you can sent me chest reference id i can check it into xedit.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Elsidia

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, Sis_User said:

It is, the specific bug I encounter with the rubber doll collar event is that instead of equipping the rubber doll collar it equipped the slave gag instead. Elsidia said that it is a bug from this mod and not an user error on my end.

 

5 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Yes rubber doll collar is random event quest and are bugged into DCL 9.0 by script migration.  Instead of rubber doll collar it's equip slave gag because script checks if rubber doll event needs activate and instead of this quest, activate slave gag event.

 

Ok, I got confused because the initial issue was with the rubber doll collar. I didn't see how/why we were suddenly doing cursed collar.

[Roggvir]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Probably this ornate (boss) chest isn't in DCL loot list, because there no loot. Like no DCL loot in ornate chest near the whiterun bandit cave. Because this chest is outside of cave.

If you can sent me chest reference id i can check it into xedit.

It is REFR:000E785B and the container is CONT:0002064F (TreasBanditChestBoss "Chest"), which is in the "dcur_bigchestlist" list.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Roggvir

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, Roggvir said:

It is REFR:000E785B and the container is CONT:0002064F (TreasBanditChestBoss "Chest"), which is in the "dcur_bigchestlist" list.

FortGreenwallLocation "Fort Greenwall" [LCTN:00019180] isn't have correct keywords in Skyrim.

It have only keyword LocTypeMilitaryFort [KYWD:000130E7], what is ignored by DCL.

At least there must be keyword LocTypeDungeon [KYWD:000130DB]

Because in this fort never spawns DCL quest items.

Also if boss quest is outside (not inside) - DCL ignores those chest too because there is check libs.PlayerRef.GetParentCell().IsInterior()

[Roggvir]

2 hours ago, Elsidia said:

FortGreenwallLocation "Fort Greenwall" [LCTN:00019180] isn't have correct keywords in Skyrim.

It have only keyword LocTypeMilitaryFort [KYWD:000130E7], what is ignored by DCL.

At least there must be keyword LocTypeDungeon [KYWD:000130DB]

Because in this fort never spawns DCL quest items.

Also if boss quest is outside (not inside) - DCL ignores those chest too because there is check libs.PlayerRef.GetParentCell().IsInterior()

Yep, so maybe the documentation should mention this caveat, instead of stating that "shipment is now in the first boss chest you open" - as we can see, it depends on where that boss chest is.

[Jenny_Summers]

On 6/6/2020 at 11:13 PM, Lif3sR3qui3m said:

Sorry if someone asked this already, I tried searching through the forum but couldn't find the answer.

 

I started a new game and played through the Captured Princess alternate start, I've gotten to the point where you get teleported to Helgen and need to find the customer in Helgen that wanted to buy me. The problem is the waypoint to my next objective is pointing towards Anise's Cabin (north of Helgen). So I start walking, but every time I get close to the objective the marker moves further north.

 

So my question is where in Helgen do I actually need to go to find the keys that will set me free?

 

 

I had the same problem.  I thought this map might be helpful.   The gate in the map below is the north Helgen gate.  You are looking for a small pouch on the east side of the road, by the X below.  

 

For some reason the usual Skyrim objective markers are completely wrong.  They send you across the river!

 

Also, this console command is very helpful for this quest:    player.setav speedmult 900

 

Hit R once or twice to make it take effect.   It speeds up your hobble speed by a lot.  Put it back when you want, like this:    player.setav speedmult 100

 

The high speed makes this quest something you might want to play.    I can't imagine investing the time in it otherwise.

 

 

[Jenny_Summers]

1 hour ago, Jenny_Summers said:

 

 

I had the same problem.  I thought this map might be helpful.   The gate in the map below is the north Helgen gate.  You are looking for a small pouch on the east side of the road, by the X below.  

 

For some reason the usual Skyrim objective markers are completely wrong.  They send you across the river!

 

Also, this console command is very helpful for this quest:    player.setav speedmult 900

 

Hit R once or twice to make it take effect.   It speeds up your hobble speed by a lot.  Put it back when you want, like this:    player.setav speedmult 100

 

The high speed makes this quest something you might want to play.    I can't imagine investing the time in it otherwise.

 

 

 

Sorry, I hit ENTER before finishing.  Anyway, despite the above, I too never found the nobleman.   I made progress in the game by using the console to add the hobble key and the chastity key, which are supposed to be on the nobleman for looting.

[Elsidia]

35 minutes ago, Jenny_Summers said:

I too never found the nobleman.

Seems you have corpse cleaning mod. I never ever not seen this corpse. Never got this bug.

 

[Marajade]

I could use some help. I added a mod or two (that had nothing to do with DCL or Sexlab), and suddenly DCL stopped spawning traps at all. I've tested it all day today after turning the frequency up to 100%, but no restraints are trapping any containers. Reloading to earlier saves didn't fix the issue. Is that game a lost cause now? Does anyone have advice on how I could get it functioning there again? I'd rather not have to start a whole new game... Thanks for the help.

[zarantha]

9 minutes ago, Marajade said:

I could use some help. I added a mod or two (that had nothing to do with DCL or Sexlab), and suddenly DCL stopped spawning traps at all. I've tested it all day today after turning the frequency up to 100%, but no restraints are trapping any containers. Reloading to earlier saves didn't fix the issue. Is that game a lost cause now? Does anyone have advice on how I could get it functioning there again? I'd rather not have to start a whole new game... Thanks for the help.

 

Are you on a dcl quest? check the debug tab. if so, it's expected. they'll resume after you finish the DCL quest.

Are any of those new mods overwriting files for DD or DCL? old patches will break things.

What is your arousal at? If it's too low, traps may not trigger.

[Marajade]

16 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Are you on a dcl quest? check the debug tab. if so, it's expected. they'll resume after you finish the DCL quest.

Are any of those new mods overwriting files for DD or DCL? old patches will break things.

What is your arousal at? If it's too low, traps may not trigger.

Aha! It looks like my arousal was too low, I didn't realize that was a condition! There's a lot on those MCM pages. Thanks for the tip. It seems to be working now... Hopefully that holds.

[Marajade]

Could someone tell me where to find the Dollmaker? I haven't been able to.