Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, asdj1239 said:

Yeah I read took the journal, closed out of the chest, then read it, but quest progress gets stuck there.

I hope you have save before opening chest - reload a save, Open a /edited/ chest, Take a book to inventory, close a chest and then read a book. I see this bug even in other mods quest - sometimes reading not triggering after read. If after 2  -  3 time not trigger then i check in mod a quest and scripts how to move on next stage.

 

[serranna]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

DCL 9.0 will be out 'soon' (no date or ETA).  It will require a new game, so keep that in mind. If you tend to do long playthroughs you may want to just wait for it to come out. I plan to port this with an eye on checking to see what has been patched and what still needs SE specific fixes. So it may be a week or more after release before I put it up.

 

I have not put everything into a single file for 8.5. I do have a list. The latest can be found here:

 

 

That is exactly what I was looking for. I'll try upgrading to the newest but if I have issues I'll roll it back and wait for 9.0.

 

Not only do I do long playthroughs, but I have about 10 active characters I play with depending on who I plan to use. It'll suck having to start all new save files but I know it'll be worth it. I love this mod and won't play Skyrim without a functioning DCL.

 

Thank you!

[Elsidia]

Also i want to discuss strange event:

Here is story: I force my brain work in wrong way: when i install wrong devious devices.ddl i delete it because install option: "none" i figure out as no ddl for SE version.

 

And i got result:

1) Equip system works slow and after load need time to get show up equip menu - but all works PERFECT but painlessly slow

2) When i return ddl to place where is need to be - equip system works faster but not perfect ... with bugs. Few times it equips rendered devices without inventory items.

A can cont it as damaged save but i heard that many people see on characters equiped devices without inventory device.

 

What you think about it and why ddl works bad?

 

[YojimboRatchet]

9 hours ago, zarantha said:

There's an expansion if you want more rules

 

 

 

this expansion is apparently only for LE. is there an SE version of this and does it work with the latest version (8.5) ? will it also work with 9.0 whenever it comes out ?

[WhatRules]

Leah has a lot of clipping on her stockings and texture seems, because her outfit is CBBE and I'm using BHUNP. But she would have clipping despite what body you're using because her heels are old CBBE and her outfit is new CBBE. Is there a bodyslide version? I can't see any in the UUNP files I installed. I know you can also find the glass dresses in the game that are based on the same mesh, and they also need bodyslides.

[Teddar]

11 hours ago, zarantha said:

the options for dominant followers changed due to kimy introducing the xdff system. this is still a work in progress, but it was introduced in DCL 7.0

 

 

There's an expansion if you want more rules

 

 

Ahh I see. Thanks for that. Always good to know you haven't broken your game installation. ?

[lacie_]

I've been playing around trying to get the Chloe quest to work but still no luck - I tried doing a fresh install of the game and reinstalling my mods, but at the moment I get stuck at the part where you need to move through the collapsed passage in Helgen. Interacting with that node won't update the quest for me - I was also having the same problem before I reinstalled everything, although I have had Chloe quest progress beyond this point before with no problems, so I'm not entirely sure what has changed and why a fresh install is still turning up this problem. I thought maybe it's a problem with AS-LAV but I've used that mod before in playthroughs where this bug didn't occur.

[Elsidia]

29 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

I've been playing around trying to get the Chloe quest

This happens on 90% Chloe quest situations.

Also to be sure - quest marker not change when you move through.

In other side you need find Imperial solder corpse with Torn note.

When you find it and read - quest marker points to other quest stage.

I don't remember where this corpse is - because on 99% cases this corpse disappear for me.

Probably in room where spiders attack. If you go further - you got into Vanilla cave if complete vanilla starter quest. If not then DCL teleports you to Helgen entry and say you are cheater. In theory it's not break a quest.

Or corpse is in first room after squeeze.

If you not found imperial corpse on no one rooms - further spiders not point to search because it's vanilla cave. Then you need do what i do always when go in this quest.  Spawn torn note with console (in test run i do it and as you see not break Nazeem's teleport to Hall of Death).

 

Spoiler

help "torn note"

player.additem xx09e977 1 where xx is your DCL mod load order in hex

 

Then close a console and read a note - quest points to new point and you are free to leave a cave.

 

Seems in this Quest you have chance to complete it because you found problem what usually have all Chloe quest users)

 

 

[Elsidia]

50 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

Chloe quest to work

I can confirm that imperial solder corpse is in room where spiders attack - i found it in quest script.

Edited: also i found strange thing about disappears corpse and have thoughts how to fix it:

Read here:

 

[lacie_]

26 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

This happens on 90% Chloe quest situations.

Also to be sure - quest marker not change when you move through.

In other side you need find Imperial solder corpse with Torn note.

When you find it and read - quest market points to other quest stage.

I don't remember where this corpse is - because on 99% cases this corpse disappear for me.

Probably in room where spiders attack. If you go further - you got into Vanilla cave if complete vanilla starter quest. If not then DCL teleports you to Helgen entry and say you are cheater. In theory it's not break a quest.

Or corpse is in first room after squeeze.

If you not found imperial corpse on no one rooms - further spiders not point to search because it's vanilla cave. Then you need do what i do always when go in this quest.  Spawn torn note with console (in test run i do it and as you see not break Nazeem's teleport to Hall of Death).

 

  Hide contents

help "torn note"

player.additem xx09e977 1 where xx is your DCL mod load order in hex

 

Then close a console and read a note - quest points to new point and you are free to leave a cave.

 

Seems in this Quest you have chance to complete it because you found problem what usually have all Chloe quest users)

 

 

Ah ok that makes a lot of sense. I realized that the quest marker wouldn't update, but the corpses weren't spawning in the spider room anyway which was what was blocking my progress.

 

I purged a bunch of my mods in a dummy profile and ran through the first part of the Chloe quest and the corpse spawned, so I'm going to try and slowly re-enable them and see if one of them is causing it, but if this is a common problem maybe I will just use the console command to get the note.

 

I'm using MO2 to set my load order, does the "xx" correspond to the mod's priority on the "plugins" tab then? So for example if DCL has priority 150 for me, I'd use "15009e977 1"?

 

Thanks so much for your help btw

 

edit: Could I just use the console command "help torn note"/"help tornnote" to look up the item ID? Sorry I'm still very new to mods and Skyrim on pc

[Elsidia]

28 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

edit: Could I just use the console command "help torn note"/"help tornnote" to look up the item ID?

Read my previous post how to fix disappears corpse thing with legal skyrim methods.

Also about console you need type help "torn note"

 

Edited: yes for you then be player.additem 15009e977 1

 

"" - makes strong search by only 2 parameters torn and note

It find in my game 4 notes you need i think last - check in my previous post id number it must be similar in your game without first 2 digits

In spoiler are screenshot with console and corpse after i move to him to confirm position)) Red line need book.

Spoiler

 

[shar181]

How are you supposed to get out of the Slave Gag? High-Security Restraint Keys don't work, the blacksmiths don't have a dialogue option to remove it, and of course it can't be struggled out of, lockpicked, or cut open. I don't want to use the "Free Me" option because I was having fun just rolling with the avalanche of consequences, but then this thing got slapped on me (High-Security Devices -- and especially the "Slave" devices -- are supposed to be disabled!) and I can't remove it. ><;

 

Edit: Nevermind! I found a different comment through the miracle of Google that told me about the "head restraint" keys. That worked to get rid of the gag.

 

So as a bug report, high-security and slave devices are still being "applied" as prostitution consequences, even when they're disabled in the Events menu. That should probably be fixed!

[YojimboRatchet]

2 hours ago, Elsidia said:

In other side you need find Imperial solder corpse with Torn note.

When you find it and read - quest marker points to other quest stage.

I don't remember where this corpse is - because on 99% cases this corpse disappear for me.

the corpses don't actually disappear, as i found out a few saves ago. and doesn't happen that often, at least not for me. the bodies down below end up being "moved" and where they appear, who the hell knows, but they are always in and around the Helgen area. hell, the 3 Stormcloak bodies in the room where the "hole" is to go to the other side, have appeared right outside the door to get into the fort outdoors lol. i have seen them huddled with the torturer. and in the cage beside the one Chloe is in. the same thing happens to the 2 soldiers in the spider room. these though get a bit messy to find.  but the torn note is always on one of those soldiers in the spider room. 

 

if there are no soldiers in the spider room, then you may as well restart your game, or use a save from "right" before you walk to helgen and trigger the dragon flying away.

[Elsidia]

2 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said:

the corpses don't actually disappear,

I think i found a answer and later will test it. I explain it in other thread:

 

[zarantha]

15 hours ago, YojimboRatchet said:

 

this expansion is apparently only for LE. is there an SE version of this and does it work with the latest version (8.5) ? will it also work with 9.0 whenever it comes out ?

Not much to it. Run it through CAO to convert the meshes and you're done. Form 43 warnings can be ignored and scripts only need touched if the mod uses nioverride, which i don't think this should.

 

From reading that thread, it should work on 8.5. We won't know about 9.0 until it's released, to see if there were any major changes to the xdff system.

[zarantha]

15 hours ago, saltshade said:

Leah has a lot of clipping on her stockings and texture seems, because her outfit is CBBE and I'm using BHUNP. But she would have clipping despite what body you're using because her heels are old CBBE and her outfit is new CBBE. Is there a bodyslide version? I can't see any in the UUNP files I installed. I know you can also find the glass dresses in the game that are based on the same mesh, and they also need bodyslides.

Depending on what heels, I haven't figured out how to convert feet. No conversion reference for them, just the bodies. I did convert anything that went up to the calves or thighs, just not the feet part. For BHUNP, though, I'd expect you to use UNP, not CBBE or 3BBB. Then all you would need to fix is the weight painting for the breast bones and conforming the vagina (assuming it's just the UNP version of 3BBB). That would be done in outfit studio.

 

The bodyslides are included, you need to check DD and UNP groups I think.

How are you getting a CBBE outfit if you installed UNP files? You should not be using any of the CBBE bodyslide fixes, UNP should be working without fixes.

[WhatRules]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

Depending on what heels, I haven't figured out how to convert feet. No conversion reference for them, just the bodies. I did convert anything that went up to the calves or thighs, just not the feet part. For BHUNP, though, I'd expect you to use UNP, not CBBE or 3BBB. Then all you would need to fix is the weight painting for the breast bones and conforming the vagina (assuming it's just the UNP version of 3BBB). That would be done in outfit studio.

 

The bodyslides are included, you need to check DD and UNP groups I think.

How are you getting a CBBE outfit if you installed UNP files? You should not be using any of the CBBE bodyslide fixes, UNP should be working without fixes.

I installed UNP but her dress is still CBBE for some reason, and I didn't find UNP bodyslides for it. That's why I installed CBBE bodyslides separately to try to fix the clipping on the stockings, but I had to do it manually in outfit studio with the brushes. The only reason it worked is because she's weight 100. With any other weight her outfit would be a chaotic mass of polygons.

 

This is the path to her dress: newmiller\corsetcbbe1\convsuit20(40-14)_1.nif. If there is a bodyslide for it what is it called and what group does it belong to?

 

She's not really useful to me more than being an extra NPC in the bannered mare though (and not very lore-friendly). If I delete her, would I be able to spawn her again without breaking something?

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, saltshade said:

She's not really useful to me more than being an extra NPC in the bannered mare though (and not very lore-friendly). If I delete her, would I be able to spawn her again without breaking something?

Leash is follower and after complete a quest Leon you can take her as mistress in new quest. You speak about i think latex corset dress 1,2,3,4 (one of it) And from group "cursed loot" also boots are "Formal affair heels" if i remember correctly And also from "cursed loot". You can try load those boots into outfit studio, load unp reference and if it fits then apply selected bones from legs and sliders and not from feet.  If not fit then need load CBBE to unp convert reference to fit boots socks correctly. Later do the same as with fitting and save as new project and build into body slide.

 

[YojimboRatchet]

7 hours ago, zarantha said:

Not much to it. Run it through CAO to convert the meshes and you're done. Form 43 warnings can be ignored and scripts only need touched if the mod uses nioverride, which i don't think this should.

 

From reading that thread, it should work on 8.5. We won't know about 9.0 until it's released, to see if there were any major changes to the xdff system.

ok, do i just run the meshes only to convert in CAO ? or the whole folder's contents ? i am still new to CAO, and only know how to convert animations properly so far.

[WhatRules]

43 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Later do the same as with fitting and save as new project and build into body slide.

 

Why save to bodyslide and not just export the mesh? If you load UUNP HDT you have all the sliders in outfit studio.

[lacie_]

18 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Read my previous post how to fix disappears corpse thing with legal skyrim methods.

Also about console you need type help "torn note"

 

Edited: yes for you then be player.additem 15009e977 1

 

 

 

Ah you were right, all I had to do was reload my game after I went through the tunnel, thanks so much.

 

I also realized the cause of the quest was something I configured in the MCM - not sure what exactly but if I didn't open the MCM after making a new save I had no problems with the first part of the Chloe quest. Either of these solutions will hopefully help anyone else who has similar issues

[Elsidia]

52 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

I configured in the MCM

I got teach how to start a new game.

In my case alternative start.

1) Not move

2) Not change a first view

3) Wait while all mods initialize and check console while all "peacefully"

4) Save a game

5) Load a game

6) Wait while all mods end initialization, check console

7) Enter MCM

8 ) Exit MCM wait while all mods initialize MCM pages

9) Enter a MCM start manually Sexlab.

10) Wait while it's started. Check console if all "peacefully")

11) Save a game

12) Load a game

13) Wait while DD inicialize struggle and bound animations, sex etc.

14) Check console if all is peacefully.

15) Save a game

16) Load a game

17) Put all MCM settings what you like

18) Save a game

19) Load a game

20) If all peacefully check console too.

21) Start play game as captured princess.

 

That's is recommend when start new game also if you have many mods.

As more mods as more saves need before all initialize and activate MCM menus

 

 

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, saltshade said:

not just export the mesh?

I don't know a much about UUNP but for CBBE open in bodyslide needs if you want change a default body sliders. And if you not add those sliders in outfit studio - legs will clipping if you use big legs as example. Also bones need not to clipping when character moves - breath, run, crouch etc.

[WhatRules]

2 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Leash is follower and after complete a quest Leon you can take her as mistress in new quest. You speak about i think latex corset dress 1,2,3,4 (one of it) And from group "cursed loot" also boots are "Formal affair heels" if i remember correctly And also from "cursed loot". You can try load those boots into outfit studio, load unp reference and if it fits then apply selected bones from legs and sliders and not from feet.  If not fit then need load CBBE to unp convert reference to fit boots socks correctly. Later do the same as with fitting and save as new project and build into body slide.

 

The DeviouslyCursedLoot group is empty in bodyslide and there is no bodyslide with that name anywhere. But if she's a follower I guess I can dress her in anything I give her.

[lacie_]

56 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

I got teach how to start a new game.

In my case alternative start.

1) Not move

2) Not change a first view

3) Wait while all mods initialize and check console while all "peacefully"

4) Save a game

5) Load a game

6) Wait while all mods end initialization, check console

7) Enter MCM

8 ) Exit MCM wait while all mods initialize MCM pages

9) Enter a MCM start manually Sexlab.

10) Wait while it's started. Check console if all "peacefully")

11) Save a game

12) Load a game

13) Wait while DD inicialize struggle and bound animations, sex etc.

14) Check console if all is peacefully.

15) Save a game

16) Load a game

17) Put all MCM settings what you like

18) Save a game

19) Load a game

20) If all peacefully check console too.

21) Start play game as captured princess.

 

That's is recommend when start new game also if you have many mods.

As more mods as more saves need before all initialize and activate MCM menus

 

 

Ah ok I try and wait for mods to load, save and restart game but I am definitely skipping some of your steps. When I run into problems and decide to restart again I will follow this guide, thanks a lot