slavery Simple Slavery Plus

[Devianne]

Do I need the old file ? before install this one ?

[Lozeak]

On 5/11/2019 at 2:41 AM, saltshade said:

The problem with SS isn't the dialogue. It's the poor consistency and design of the NPCs. Since the mod doesn't care what your settings are for Sanguine's Debauchery the enslavement doesn't work if you get a female owner. Please make a version with only male owners and I will be a fan.

 

Many of the owners are guards with strange names that don't fit their race(as if the author named them after his friends). It would be more interesting and immersive if they were already existing NPCs going about their usual business in the world. I realize there has been a lot of work with scripts on the mod, and that everyone doesn't have much time on their hands, but the whole design seems a bit sloppy to me. It's also weird that most of the buyers are female(with the grey face bug I might add) and not a single one is a male nord.

The mod also doesn't register manually in DA, even on a new game. And where is the Defeat Patch?

 

SD+ integration: so it's one of the few mods that SS actually does a lot of the work to set up the integration which means it selects the master from a list and send them to basically since it decides the person there will be inconsistencies. I will put it on a to-do list if I get time or not I don't know.

 

Design choices of the mod: Maybe they're not the most immersive of names and the races select might not 'fit' into the Skyrim lore but the author put thought and chose those names for a reason and I think changing them now would take something away from the mod and the memories people had of it. You can alter a lot of this in TES5edit or CK to make your own version or even you could make an immersion patch for the mod.

 

Grey face: I think that because of the Face-Gen data that is in the mod... Delete it and I think it will fix, I can't remember why I put it in there or if I put it in there maybe because I was scared of breaking the mod.

 

DA: It doesn't do it automatically(I don't know why) but when you do it via MCM of DA it shows up if it doesn't I don't know why and would need more info.

 

Also the without Devious framework is the more stable version.1

[Rylalei]

2 hours ago, Lozeak said:

DA: It doesn't do it automatically(I don't know why) but when you do it via MCM of DA it shows up if it doesn't I don't know why and would need more info.

No, it doesn't show in DA's MCM, I've looked everywhere.

 

As I said above (or in the DCL one?), I'm new to modding and all, so you will need to give me list of things you need info on and how I can get them for you.

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, Devianne said:

Do I need the old file ? before install this one ?

If you mean the non "Plus" version, you don't need it.  This one replaces it.

 

If you mean the 6.02 version, install that first, then the appropriate 6.04 patch. 

[WhatRules]

6 hours ago, Lozeak said:

Also the without Devious framework is the more stable version.1

I want the slavers with lassos, so I'm gonna try it with the Devious Framework version for now. How do you encounter them in the game? Do they appear randomly and cast a lasso on you that you can't avoid? I don't mind if it works like that, just want to know what to expect.

[Hex Bolt]

26 minutes ago, saltshade said:

I want the slavers with lassos, so I'm gonna try it with the Devious Framework version for now. How do you encounter them in the game? Do they appear randomly and cast a lasso on you that you can't avoid? I don't mind if it works like that, just want to know what to expect.

This mod doesn't add slavers (other than providing a bit of support for SD+).  It's basically a gateway to other slavery mods, a simple way for a combat defeat mod to hand you off to one of the slavery mods that you've already installed. 

 

If you already use a mod that makes use of the Devious Framework, then install the SS+ patch for that.  If you don't already have Devious Framework, then you should use the non-Framework SS+ patch. 

[Lozeak]

5 hours ago, Rylalei said:

No, it doesn't show in DA's MCM, I've looked everywhere.

 

As I said above (or in the DCL one?), I'm new to modding and all, so you will need to give me list of things you need info on and how I can get them for you.

 

In DA MCM after u have activated the mod click Manual registration. Then SS should be in OnBlackOutevent.

 

By more information I mean, because I can get it to work it's very hard to fix. You basically I need to know the reason it's not working or some idea (load order can sometimes to this or errors in papyrus).

 

Basically, it's something in your install environment that means it doesn't work. It doesn't mean it's not a problem with SS but it's just hard to work out.

[WhatRules]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

This mod doesn't add slavers (other than providing a bit of support for SD+).  It's basically a gateway to other slavery mods, a simple way for a combat defeat mod to hand you off to one of the slavery mods that you've already installed. 

 

If you already use a mod that makes use of the Devious Framework, then install the SS+ patch for that.  If you don't already have Devious Framework, then you should use the non-Framework SS+ patch. 

From the description of SS+:

 

Devious Framework: Watch out for slavers with lassos! Will actually walk you to the slave market and hand you off!

 

So this is just garbage?

[Lozeak]

7 minutes ago, saltshade said:

From the description of SS+:

 

Devious Framework: Watch out for slavers with lassos! Will actually walk you to the slave market and hand you off!

 

So this is just garbage?

 

So this mod doesn't add slavers. I think Slave Girls by hydragorgon does add slavers to Skyrim that will. 

 

Getting it to work is hard though and while I did a while ago it was inconsistent. 

[WhatRules]

1 hour ago, Lozeak said:

 

So this mod doesn't add slavers. I think Slave Girls by hydragorgon does add slavers to Skyrim that will. 

 

Getting it to work is hard though and while I did a while ago it was inconsistent. 

No it doesn't. It adds 200 NPCs to your game, including naked slave girls with ridiculously large breasts, but nothing was mentioned about slavers with lassos.

[Lupine00]

9 hours ago, saltshade said:

No it doesn't. It adds 200 NPCs to your game, including naked slave girls with ridiculously large breasts, but nothing was mentioned about slavers with lassos.

To get slavers with lassos you need Hydra's Slave Girls AND Devious Framework. Read the front page of Devious Framework, it's written there, very clearly.

 

However, Simple Slavery is required for the Slavers to sell you.

 

So, for all practical purposes, you need all three mods to get that - and Devious Framework has some ... bad mechanics ... in it. The leash yank is pretty much certain to pull you through geometry, possibly causing you to fall out of the world. When it happens with a blindfold on, it's really annoying because you've lost the world geometry before you can fix things.

 

It can also cause control lock-ups when you get stuck due to ragdoll trying to play at the same time as an animation. It's really not worth the bother.

[WhatRules]

9 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

To get slavers with lassos you need Hydra's Slave Girls AND Devious Framework. Read the front page of Devious Framework, it's written there, very clearly.

 

However, Simple Slavery is required for the Slavers to sell you.

 

So, for all practical purposes, you need all three mods to get that - and Devious Framework has some ... bad mechanics ... in it. The leash yank is pretty much certain to pull you through geometry, possibly causing you to fall out of the world. When it happens with a blindfold on, it's really annoying because you've lost the world geometry before you can fix things.

 

It can also cause control lock-ups when you get stuck due to ragdoll trying to play at the same time as an animation. It's really not worth the bother.

Thanks for clarifying that and sparing me from a lot of pain. I was just reading the Devious Framework description(which I had mistaken for Devious Devices and its addons) and went back here to delete when I saw your comment.

[Devianne]

18 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

If you mean the non "Plus" version, you don't need it.  This one replaces it.

 

If you mean the 6.02 version, install that first, then the appropriate 6.04 patch. 

thank. And yes I was reffered to the none plus one. So intalled the 6.02 and the 6.04 patch, got it

[Rylalei]

16 hours ago, Lozeak said:

 

In DA MCM after u have activated the mod click Manual registration. Then SS should be in OnBlackOutevent.

 

By more information I mean, because I can get it to work it's very hard to fix. You basically I need to know the reason it's not working or some idea (load order can sometimes to this or errors in papyrus).

 

Basically, it's something in your install environment that means it doesn't work. It doesn't mean it's not a problem with SS but it's just hard to work out.

 

I tried that, didn't work, so I reinstalled both mods, did it again and now it worked.

 

Thanks for the help.

[poblivion]

Hi, please can add support for mod Ravenous 2.1bis ? I think Delzaron already has everything ready.

 

Thanks

[Naps-On-Dirt]

On 3/26/2019 at 11:57 AM, Hiderius said:

I chose the Leon outcome since I have Cursed Loot 

DCL changed how Leon enslavery works with the new version, it now uses Kimy's XDFF.  So the SS handoff to Leon needs to be redone to utilize that.  

[Vellond1]

When I am captured in this mod and I hit the okay button it teleport me to a grey space why I am constantly falling. It says riften slave market but there's nothing there? Did I mess up somewhere?

[donttouchmethere]

25 minutes ago, Vellond1 said:

When I am captured in this mod and I hit the okay button it teleport me to a grey space why I am constantly falling. It says riften slave market but there's nothing there? Did I mess up somewhere?

Yes something is messed up.

SS+ doesn't capture you, it always needs another mod that will send you to it and after that SS+ needs mods installed to send you to.

You could check if it is installed right, you need 6.2 base and 6.4 patch (choose the one that is right for your setup)

 

ending up in space can also happen if:

> your PC is locked in zaz furniture and gets send to SS+

> your PC is in a SLscene while getting send to SS+

> your PC is leashed by a mod and gets send to SS+

> another mod tries to get control over your PC while getting send to SS+

> your getting send to SS+ while changing a cell

 

 

[Vellond1]

28 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Yes something is messed up.

SS+ doesn't capture you, it always needs another mod that will send you to it and after that SS+ needs mods installed to send you to.

You could check if it is installed right, you need 6.2 base and 6.4 patch (choose the one that is right for your setup)

 

ending up in space can also happen if:

> your PC is locked in zaz furniture and gets send to SS+

> your PC is in a SLscene while getting send to SS+

> your PC is leashed by a mod and gets send to SS+

> another mod tries to get control over your PC while getting send to SS+

> your getting send to SS+ while changing a cell

 

 

Which mod has the riften slave auction place and stuff inside it?

[donttouchmethere]

14 minutes ago, Vellond1 said:

Which mod has the riften slave auction place and stuff inside it?

Simple Slavery Plus provides the auction house in rifton (you can visit it in rifton, door next to he guard barracks)

You find mods that connect with SS+ on the Mod download page

 

SS+ works like that:

[Mod A] >sends PC to> [SS+ auction] >sends PC to> [Mod B]

[Vellond1]

7 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Simple Slavery Plus provides the auction house in rifton (you can visit it in rifton, door next to he guard barracks)

You find mods that connect with SS+ on the Mod download page

 

SS+ works like that:

[Mod A] >sends PC to> [SS+ auction] >sends PC to> [Mod B]

Ah okay thanks a bunch!!

[aramil31]

On 4/11/2019 at 5:23 PM, logout28 said:

I'm having a weird issue where after the auction the SD+ event is triggered but it puts me in the middle of nowhere? A prompt appears that says something like "Let's go on a journey" but i spawn in like a forest or a road and it does the normal SD stuff. Is this a problem with SD or Simple Slavery?

I want to bump this question, since I'm getting the same thing. Pretty sure I've got all the right things enabled, though I'm not using Death Alternative.

[Nazguli Tyvek]

Is the defeat patch included in version 6.04? Or is there another file or patch I need to download other than version 6.04 with devious framework?

[Hex Bolt]

30 minutes ago, Nazguli Tyvek said:

Is the defeat patch included in version 6.04? Or is there another file or patch I need to download other than version 6.04 with devious framework?

You don't need the Defeat patch for 6.04.  But you DO have to install 6.02 first, then install the 6.04 patch.  Also, don't confuse devious framework for devious devices.  If you're using Devious Devices but not the devious framework (which in my experience is not very stable) then you should use the non devious framework version. 

[corvusbray]

I am running this with;

Simple Slavery plus with devious framework patch
SL Defeat
Devious Followers
Devious Framework

Do we still need the Devious Framework mod? It requires ZaZAnimationPack.esm which seems to not be in the newest ZaZ Animation Pack V7.0. I want to address you before I ask Zaz about the .esm file.