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Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, toiladanfake1996 said:

You have one or more plugins that are not form 44. They are:

• Devious Devices - Assets.esm (form 43)
• Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm (form 43)
• Devious Devices - Expansion.esm (form 43)
• Devious Devices - Integration.esm (form 43)
• Devious Devices For Him.esp (form 43)

Form 43 (or lower) plugins are modules that were made for Skyrim LE (Oldrim) and have not been properly ported to Skyrim Special Edition, which uses form 44 plugins. This usually results in parts of the mod not working correctly.

To be converted, these plugins simply need to be opened and saved with the SSE Creation Kit but their presence can be an indication that a mod was not properly ported to SSE and so can potentially have additional issues.

Online guides can have more information on how to correctly convert mods for Skyrim SE.

 

Conversion for form 44 is not required. If you must be one of THOSE people who don't read up on this stuff and insist it be form 44 then install the DD 5.2 beta linked on the troubleshooting post since i'm giving up on educating people that this shit is not needed and who can't be bothered to search a thread for something that's been talked about at least 100 times. Even LL's shitty search could find this.

 

Edit: Sorry for the harsh post, but this gets asked so often it's beyond annoying at this point. Please, in the future, try searching first instead of just posting. Your issues are very likely not unique.

 

Edited by zarantha
Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Conversion for form 44 is not required. If you must be one of THOSE people who don't read up on this stuff and insist it be form 44 then install the DD 5.2 beta linked on the troubleshooting post since i'm giving up on educating people that this shit is not needed and who can't be bothered to search a thread for something that's been talked about at least 100 times. Even LL's shitty search could find this.

 

Edit: Sorry for the harsh post, but this gets asked so often it's beyond annoying at this point. Please, in the future, try searching first instead of just posting. Your issues are very likely not unique.

 

ZARANTHA as reason. i have a lot of mods installed in forme 43 and i never have a problem with that.

 

 

Edited by mikesolo1975
Posted
8 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said:

ZARANTHA as reason. i have a lot of mods installed in forme 43 and i never have a problem with that.

 

 

 

Yes, I know. I have the same. But the number of people asking about form 43/44 is on par with people having bodyslide issues. At this point, i'm resaving them to get rid of some of the noise so there's a better chance of seeing real issues.

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Yes, I know. I have the same. But the number of people asking about form 43/44 is on par with people having bodyslide issues. At this point, i'm resaving them to get rid of some of the noise so there's a better chance of seeing real issues.

it's true and i understand you my friend, there are people dont bother search for the real issues in the mods.

Edited by mikesolo1975
Posted
On 12/16/2022 at 9:01 AM, zarantha said:

 

Install Faster HDT SMP. Or if you installed it already, make sure you made the right selections for your game version. Tails not in the right place means HDT SMP is not installed or not working. CBPC is not a substitute for HDT SMP for these devices.

Thanks it worked

Posted
2 hours ago, Ghostman7nz said:

Does anyone know if there is a patch for Devious Devices and Racial Skin Variance? If so a link would be super

 

Not that I'm aware of.

Posted

Trying out Beta10 RC1 and I've got a new problem on the Chloe quest.  When trying to pick a herb after being locked up in chains i get the message "You can't do that with your arms bound!" which is from zaz's zbfSlot.pex.

I've updated only a few mods since a previous start that didn't have this problem but can't track down which is causing it or if any MCM option can avoid it.

Tough to do the Chloe quest if I can't pick a lavender...

Anyone else have this problem?

Posted
10 hours ago, onen said:

Trying out Beta10 RC1 and I've got a new problem on the Chloe quest.  When trying to pick a herb after being locked up in chains i get the message "You can't do that with your arms bound!" which is from zaz's zbfSlot.pex.

I've updated only a few mods since a previous start that didn't have this problem but can't track down which is causing it or if any MCM option can avoid it.

Tough to do the Chloe quest if I can't pick a lavender...

Anyone else have this problem?

 

Make sure you're using zaz 7 or 8 i guess. I've never had that problem. And even so, if you're sure it's coming from zaz, it's not DCL's fault.

 

Posted
12 hours ago, onen said:

Trying out Beta10 RC1 and I've got a new problem on the Chloe quest.  When trying to pick a herb after being locked up in chains i get the message "You can't do that with your arms bound!" which is from zaz's zbfSlot.pex.

I've updated only a few mods since a previous start that didn't have this problem but can't track down which is causing it or if any MCM option can avoid it.

Tough to do the Chloe quest if I can't pick a lavender...

Anyone else have this problem?

Are you using Sexlab Survival, by chance? It has a feature that gives almost the same message, although it's in first person ("I" and "my") instead of second ("You" and "your"). If that's the case, check its MCM for "Devious Effects".

Posted

'Ello long time modder first time poster here,

Did a fresh install and downgrade to SE went to add my usual mod list from memory. Eeduced it by quite a few getting a few strange bugs, none of my mods detect a version number and fail. Also i'm not getting any prompts putting on or taking off devices

 

Example;

 

image.png.68cc69aedf40c019f1d56328d2bb080c.png

 

Load order;

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
Campfire.esm
Better Dynamic Snow SE - DisableRefs.esm
FISS.esp
Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
UHDAP - en4.esp
UHDAP - en3.esp
UHDAP - en2.esp
UHDAP - en1.esp
UHDAP - en0.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
SkyrimPlatformBridge.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Extended.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
Embers XD - Fire Magick Add-On.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
MysticismMagic.esp
MilkModNEW.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
Man Those Borders!.esp
Embers XD.esp
EmbersXD-Campfire Patch.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp
Abduction.esp
SLUTS.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
SL Survival.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Point The Way.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Milk Addict.esp
Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp
noobletstendarrinquisition.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
SpellResearch.esp
Spell Research - Even More Patches.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
SkyrimSewers.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmorExtended.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
MaximumCarnage.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
RaceMenuMorphsHIMBO.esp
MultiStageTransform.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
Immersive Armors Weight Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
Slaves of Tamriel.esp
Debauchery.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
TentaCave.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
Embers XD - Patch - ELFX.esp
DeviousBanditCaptives.esp
UnforgivingDevices.esp
UnforgivingDevices - DD Patch.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
Missives.esp
Embers XD - Patch - ELFX Exteriors.esp
BreakableEquipmentSystem.esp
sztkUtil.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RoadInspections.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
SL Dirty Deeds Missives.esp
AnukethFollowers7.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
State of Dress.esp
Gossip.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
ClassicClasses.esp
SWT1.2.esp
Sexlab Release.esp
SexLabSquirtR.esp
SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp
SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp
MilkModNEW HF.esp
MilkModNEW CF.esp
Serial Strip Merged.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLDrunkRedux.esp
SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
WetandCold.esp
DeviousMimicClothes.esp
dD Enchanted Chests.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
mslDeviousCaptures.esp
Devious Heatrise.esp
DD_Helpers.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
UnforgivingDevices - LBS Patch.esp
UnforgivingDevices - DCL Patch.esp
TheMilkMaid.esp
Missives - Solstheim.esp
SLUTSPrisonOverhaulPatch.esp
SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SlaveTats.esp
TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
VioLens SE.esp
VolumeticMistsSolstheim.esp
VolumeticMists.esp
WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
FleshFX.esp
Mysticism_FleshFX_Patch.esp
3BBB.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
XPMSE.esp
FNIS.esp
MCMHelper.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
MergedPatch.esp
ELFX - Hardcore.esp
Alternate Start ELFX Fix.esp

 

Posted

does it ever happen to anyone when you do remove device in the mcm that it just doesnt remove it ? Heck even DCL doesnt remove the device and i know they came from various even cause by DCL. Its super odd.

Posted
9 hours ago, chaimhewast said:

Are you using Sexlab Survival, by chance? It has a feature that gives almost the same message, although it's in first person ("I" and "my") instead of second ("You" and "your"). If that's the case, check its MCM for "Devious Effects".

That was it!  The sls mcm devious effects checkbox says pickpocket, lock picking but apparently harvesting too.  I was wrong about zaz, its text says "hands bound!" where sls says "arms bound!"

Thanks.

 

BTW, the chains around the pink catsuit on the Chloe quest fit and look great with 3ba v0.8b.

Posted
On 12/1/2022 at 5:37 AM, zero2infinity said:

 

Just curious, as I decided to axe Nemesis from my load order, is there a combat mod similar to CGO that you use? It's the one thing dependent on Nemesis that I was hesitant to remove.

 

Sorry for replying awfully late, but no, I don't use any combat mod. In general, my gameplay mods are mostly restricted to the LL stuff, AI overhaul and EFF.  The LL stuff causes the biggest part as you can imagine since they alter the environment quite heavy script-wise.

Posted
21 hours ago, Tockly said:

'Ello long time modder first time poster here,

Did a fresh install and downgrade to SE went to add my usual mod list from memory. Eeduced it by quite a few getting a few strange bugs, none of my mods detect a version number and fail. Also i'm not getting any prompts putting on or taking off devices

 

Example;

 

image.png.68cc69aedf40c019f1d56328d2bb080c.png

 

Load order;

  Reveal hidden contents

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
Campfire.esm
Better Dynamic Snow SE - DisableRefs.esm
FISS.esp
Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
UHDAP - en4.esp
UHDAP - en3.esp
UHDAP - en2.esp
UHDAP - en1.esp
UHDAP - en0.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
SkyrimPlatformBridge.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Extended.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
Embers XD - Fire Magick Add-On.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
MysticismMagic.esp
MilkModNEW.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
Man Those Borders!.esp
Embers XD.esp
EmbersXD-Campfire Patch.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp
Abduction.esp
SLUTS.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
SL Survival.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Point The Way.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Milk Addict.esp
Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp
noobletstendarrinquisition.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
SpellResearch.esp
Spell Research - Even More Patches.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
SkyrimSewers.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmorExtended.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
MaximumCarnage.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
RaceMenuMorphsHIMBO.esp
MultiStageTransform.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
Immersive Armors Weight Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
Slaves of Tamriel.esp
Debauchery.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
TentaCave.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
Embers XD - Patch - ELFX.esp
DeviousBanditCaptives.esp
UnforgivingDevices.esp
UnforgivingDevices - DD Patch.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
Missives.esp
Embers XD - Patch - ELFX Exteriors.esp
BreakableEquipmentSystem.esp
sztkUtil.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RoadInspections.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
SL Dirty Deeds Missives.esp
AnukethFollowers7.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
State of Dress.esp
Gossip.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
ClassicClasses.esp
SWT1.2.esp
Sexlab Release.esp
SexLabSquirtR.esp
SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp
SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp
MilkModNEW HF.esp
MilkModNEW CF.esp
Serial Strip Merged.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLDrunkRedux.esp
SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
WetandCold.esp
DeviousMimicClothes.esp
dD Enchanted Chests.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
mslDeviousCaptures.esp
Devious Heatrise.esp
DD_Helpers.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
UnforgivingDevices - LBS Patch.esp
UnforgivingDevices - DCL Patch.esp
TheMilkMaid.esp
Missives - Solstheim.esp
SLUTSPrisonOverhaulPatch.esp
SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SlaveTats.esp
TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
VioLens SE.esp
VolumeticMistsSolstheim.esp
VolumeticMists.esp
WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
FleshFX.esp
Mysticism_FleshFX_Patch.esp
3BBB.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
XPMSE.esp
FNIS.esp
MCMHelper.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
MergedPatch.esp
ELFX - Hardcore.esp
Alternate Start ELFX Fix.esp

 

 

The only supported versions of DD are 5.1 and 5.2beta. Make sure you have NOT installed the separately available DDa, DDi, DDx, DDc, DD for Him, or DD BRRF. These are all available now in a single installer and installing the separate versions will break DD. Also, DO NOT install patches for other versions of DD. Installing patches for versions that do not match your installed DD version will also break DD.

 

As long as DD is initializing properly, there's nothing DD can do to fix this. To check if DD's DLL is initializing properly, you can check the skse64.log in \Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE.

 

If it's not, make sure you installed the right DLL for your downgraded game version. 5.1 only has 1.5.97, 5.2beta10 supports all SE, AE, and GOG versions. To download just the DLL for newer AE/GOG versions, look on the troubleshooting post.

 

Odds are though, you'll need to check the Deviously Helpless support thread for a patch or how to fix.

Posted
19 hours ago, alexsl said:

does it ever happen to anyone when you do remove device in the mcm that it just doesnt remove it ? Heck even DCL doesnt remove the device and i know they came from various even cause by DCL. Its super odd.

 

Open the console and wait. Also, DCL's remove function is broke for some devices. It's not recommended really to use them because they absolutely will break quests even when they are working right, why are you? If have a bugged device, the safest method is to go back to an earlier save and try that step in the quest again. If this is leon's quest and it's the piercing, console in leon's key to remove it.

Posted
2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Open the console and wait. Also, DCL's remove function is broke for some devices. It's not recommended really to use them because they absolutely will break quests even when they are working right, why are you? If have a bugged device, the safest method is to go back to an earlier save and try that step in the quest again. If this is leon's quest and it's the piercing, console in leon's key to remove it.

No the device didnt came from a quest. But from just random event like looting a chest, body or whatever.

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

The only supported versions of DD are 5.1 and 5.2beta. Make sure you have NOT installed the separately available DDa, DDi, DDx, DDc, DD for Him, or DD BRRF. These are all available now in a single installer and installing the separate versions will break DD. Also, DO NOT install patches for other versions of DD. Installing patches for versions that do not match your installed DD version will also break DD.

 

As long as DD is initializing properly, there's nothing DD can do to fix this. To check if DD's DLL is initializing properly, you can check the skse64.log in \Documents\My Games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE.

 

If it's not, make sure you installed the right DLL for your downgraded game version. 5.1 only has 1.5.97, 5.2beta10 supports all SE, AE, and GOG versions. To download just the DLL for newer AE/GOG versions, look on the troubleshooting post.

 

Odds are though, you'll need to check the Deviously Helpless support thread for a patch or how to fix.

 

Welp, thank you turns out i had a mod for dd 4 installed that i missed, apologies for thank and again thank you for your consistent help on this thread.

Edited by Tockly
Posted

Enjoy the struggle animations for blindfold, restrictive gloves, boots, etc.

 

Are there any addons or additional files for animations for all the struggle animations? If not, are there any plans to have all categories covered in the future?

 

Thanks!

Posted
13 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

Enjoy the struggle animations for blindfold, restrictive gloves, boots, etc.

 

Are there any addons or additional files for animations for all the struggle animations? If not, are there any plans to have all categories covered in the future?

 

Thanks!

 

That would require someone knowing how to animate making the animations and then giving kimy permission to use them. afaik, there are no animators contributing to DD anymore, so this is unlikely to happen.

Posted
On 12/21/2022 at 6:18 PM, alexsl said:

No the device didnt came from a quest. But from just random event like looting a chest, body or whatever.

 

Then your best option when removing a device is to unlock it, exit the inventory menu, and open the console and wait.

 

You can try installing the DD 5.2 beta from the troubleshooting post, which has improvements to device removal, but that would only work if the device is not bugged. Depending on how it's bugged, even the console debug options might not be able to remove it, which is why it's best to go back to an earlier save.

Posted (edited)

Is there a chance for the key you receive from blacksmiths to be the wrong key? Received a head restraint key but i still don't have the option to unlock my slave collar.

Edited by Hung Femboy
Posted

Questions on modding and scripting.

 

Any good resources on how to use devious devices? I know this wiki exists but other than that it's the zablibs source file and staring at cursed loot source files to see how they did it.

 

Creating a device that can only be unlocked by quest completion. Do I apply the zad_questitem/zad_blockgeneric keyword and my own custom quest keyword to the render item, and when the quest ends, use the removequestdevice function passing the custom quest keyword as a parameter?

 

How do I check if the player is wearing any quest devices? To prevent interfering with other quests (such as the cursed collar quest from cursed loot).

 

If they don't have any quest items on, I just use lockdevice (force = true) to put it on (to swap out generic items)? And since it will have the zad_questitem/zad_blockgeneric keyword on the device it can't be unlocked with a key? Or is that something I modify using the zadbelt script properites on the render item (by clearing the value of the devicekey property)

 

Also, where is the best place to put the locking and unlocking scripts? I was thinking the simplest thing to do would be in the quest stages.

 

Cheers for any help

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Forgetandeatcake said:

Any good resources on how to use devious devices? I know this wiki exists but other than that it's the zablibs source file and staring at cursed loot source files to see how they did it.

Sadly I think the only resources for DD modding are that wiki and the source files.

 

1 hour ago, Forgetandeatcake said:

Creating a device that can only be unlocked by quest completion. Do I apply the zad_questitem/zad_blockgeneric keyword and my own custom quest keyword to the render item, and when the quest ends, use the removequestdevice function passing the custom quest keyword as a parameter?

If losing the device would break your quest, use Zad_QuestItem, otherwise use Zad_BlockGeneric. I've not done anything with quest devices myself, but from what I can see yes, you just have to set up a keyword for your quest, assign it to the device, and reference it when you call RemoveQuestDevice().

 

1 hour ago, Forgetandeatcake said:

How do I check if the player is wearing any quest devices? To prevent interfering with other quests (such as the cursed collar quest from cursed loot).

In a script, GetWornRenderedDeviceByKeyword() to check if the slot's available and running HasKeyword() on any devices it finds would be my guess. If you want to be more sweeping, you could simply use WornHasKeyword(), and that has the benefit of also existing as a condition function.

 

2 hours ago, Forgetandeatcake said:

If they don't have any quest items on, I just use lockdevice (force = true) to put it on (to swap out generic items)? And since it will have the zad_questitem/zad_blockgeneric keyword on the device it can't be unlocked with a key? Or is that something I modify using the zadbelt script properites on the render item (by clearing the value of the devicekey property)

Correct on the force=true, I've seen two ways of stopping the player from taking a quest device off - one is to set deviceKey to a key that the player can never find (by default, setting deviceKey to none means the device doesn't need a key), and the other is to give the device a custom zad_DeviceMsg where all but the "Carry on" option have impossible conditions (they still have to exist because the scripts go by the button's index to know what the player chose).

 

2 hours ago, Forgetandeatcake said:

Also, where is the best place to put the locking and unlocking scripts? I was thinking the simplest thing to do would be in the quest stages.

That's more a general quest design question, I feel. I've not done any quest design, so I'll leave that for people who have.

Posted
2 hours ago, Hung Femboy said:

Is there a chance for the key you receive from blacksmiths to be the wrong key? Received a head restraint key but i still don't have the option to unlock my slave collar.

You'll have to ask in the thread of whatever mod added that dialogue. The framework doesn't offer any way to obtain devices and keys on its own.

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