Devious Devices SE

[Koshia]

hey, just downloaded slaverun and it says it needs 'DD Intergration/Expansion V4.0 or 4.1', would this work or do i have to use v4 specifically?

[Marajade]

The sexlab scenes that are playing aren't matching the devious devices I'm wearing. How do I fix this? For example, regular sex scenes are playing when my character is wearing a chastity belt, which shouldn't be possible. Or oral scenes while wearing a ball gag. How do you make sure the selected scenes filter by device properly?

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, Koshia said:

hey, just downloaded slaverun and it says it needs 'DD Intergration/Expansion V4.0 or 4.1', would this work or do i have to use v4 specifically?

 

It should work, but you might need a patch or to do some extra steps. DD 4.x is gone and completely unsupported.

Look in the slaverun thread for help.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Marajade said:

The sexlab scenes that are playing aren't matching the devious devices I'm wearing. How do I fix this? For example, regular sex scenes are playing when my character is wearing a chastity belt, which shouldn't be possible. Or oral scenes while wearing a ball gag. How do you make sure the selected scenes filter by device properly?

 

Did you uncheck the filters in the DD MCM?

 

What version of DD? The beta has some improvements to the filter.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, serranna said:

 

 

As if Bodyslide wasn't confusing enough I looked at outfit studio and I think I lost a couple of years from my life trying to understand what I was looking at in outfit studio.

So, can you make changes and preview those changes in Outfit Studio or do you have to load the game to see how they look? My game takes a while to load because my computer is almost as good as a potato, so I could see how much of a pain that would be.

 

Mostly you need to check in game, but outfit studio has a way to preview particular presets too, that might help you. I don't use it because I normally run with the basic cbbe curvy.

 

Mostly though, if know I need to tweak, i use the in game bodyslide launcher (only for SE alas) and launch bodyslide and outfit studio from in game. Then I only need to unequip/reequip to see the changes after saving in outfit studio.

 

To load a preset: slider -> load preset -> select preset and select low/high weight.

 

bodyslide launcher;

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36308

[nomkaz]

4 hours ago, Koshia said:

hey, just downloaded slaverun and it says it needs 'DD Intergration/Expansion V4.0 or 4.1', would this work or do i have to use v4 specifically?

I've used Slaverun with newer versions of D.D. and it seemed to work just fine. There might be minor issues with device names being different but it plays like normal. 

[Koshia]

2 minutes ago, nomkaz said:

I've used Slaverun with newer versions of D.D. and it seemed to work just fine. There might be minor issues with device names being different but it plays like normal. 

may not be possible but could you link the mods you are using? i found this patch 

which works for the DD expansion v4 problem, but im still getting the 'DD integration v4 required' notification when launching skyrim.

any help would be great

[zarantha]

On 9/30/2022 at 2:10 PM, DrinkFromTheCup said:

GOG version of Skyrim have just arrived.

 

Experimental version of DD's DLL for GOG has been compiled and is on the troubleshooting post. Please provide your skse64.log if you try it so I can see if it's working or not.

 

 

[AiDoru]

I might sound entitled, I'm honestly not sure, sorry in advance. Is there a possibility this mod's download could be hosted on a different platform than MEGA? It currently exceeds the download limit on it.

[zarantha]

57 minutes ago, AiDoru said:

I might sound entitled, I'm honestly not sure, sorry in advance. Is there a possibility this mod's download could be hosted on a different platform than MEGA? It currently exceeds the download limit on it.

 

It doesn't exceed the mega file limit, but it might your daily.

There's a gdrive link on the troubleshooting post.

[zouzou]

Hi all,

 

I don't know if this has been report already but there is an issue with the mesh of the beta version of Devious Device SE (5.2 beta 7).

The prisonner shackles meshe (stored in "meshes\devious\Heretic\Restraints") are  not the correct one. Instead of the shackles there is the chain harness.

This is true for the beast race meshes as well.

 

At the moment I took the meshes of the 5.1which are the correct one.

Edited October 2, 2022 by zouzou

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, zouzou said:

Hi all,

 

I don't know if this has been report already but there is an issue with the mesh of the beta version of Devious Device SE (5.2 beta 7).

The prisonner shackles meshe (stored in "meshes\devious\Heretic\Restraints") are  not the correct one. Instead of the shackles there is the chain harness.

This is true for the beast race meshes as well.

 

At the moment I took the meshes of the 5.1which are the correct one.

 

It's intentional. The prisoner chains can cause CTDs when SMP is missing or not working correctly. You can build the SMP mesh in bodyslide.

[zouzou]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

It's intentional. The prisoner chains can cause CTDs when SMP is missing or not working correctly. You can build the SMP mesh in bodyslide.

 

Ah so it's in fact missing from the UUNP bodyslide pack (it's only in the CBBE one). That explain why I don't have the right mesh

[nomkaz]

On 10/1/2022 at 1:50 PM, Koshia said:

may not be possible but could you link the mods you are using? i found this patch 

which works for the DD expansion v4 problem, but im still getting the 'DD integration v4 required' notification when launching skyrim.

any help would be great

Honestly, it was quite some time ago, so no clue what mod setup I was using then. A year or more ago. 

[RainbowDash1]

Is it possible to download this from any other page but mega?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, RainbowDash1 said:

Is it possible to download this from any other page but mega?

 

gdrive link on the troubleshooting post.

[Marajade]

On 10/1/2022 at 1:05 PM, zarantha said:

 

Did you uncheck the filters in the DD MCM?

 

What version of DD? The beta has some improvements to the filter.

DD 5.1

 

I didn't uncheck that setting. Shouldn't Sexlab be only selecting scenes that fit the devices my character has equipped? When I try to sort Sexlab animations by tag for devious devices, yoke, or other bondage tags, nothing shows up. I know the animations are in there though. How do I get it to only play yoke animations if my character is wearing a yoke, for example?

[zarantha]

50 minutes ago, Marajade said:

DD 5.1

 

I didn't uncheck that setting. Shouldn't Sexlab be only selecting scenes that fit the devices my character has equipped? When I try to sort Sexlab animations by tag for devious devices, yoke, or other bondage tags, nothing shows up. I know the animations are in there though. How do I get it to only play yoke animations if my character is wearing a yoke, for example?

 

DD registers the animations with sexlab, which allows them to play. They aren't listed as sexlab animations though.

The filter is in DD, sexlab doesn't have anything to do with picking animations, it just allows them to play.

 

There are improvements to the filter in 5.2 beta, but i'm not sure if that will help you. Basically as long as you've got all the animation filter options checked in DD, that's all you can do. There's not a lot of animations available. And you are maybe hitting some conditions where the only yoke animations get filtered out because of your other devices, so it just plays something else as a backup. usually that's a solo masturbate.

[RainbowDash1]

The Quest  "learning the ropes" is broken.

When I get to the stage when I have to wear a dress and go to into the Temple of Dibella at Markarth, I meet Sonna, who makes me take off the dress, but then, nothing happens.

• Talking to her again being nude or with another clothes but the quest dress doesnt trigger any script or dialogue. She just look at me and makes her basic dialogue telling me her sisters are performing a ritual downstairs.
• Putting the quest dress on and talking to her triggers the first dialogue, where she makes me to undress. The dressing script occurs, but once again I'm left at nothing. 
• Letting the undressing script and manually removing the dress doesn't make any difference
• Tried getstage and setstage commands, but they show me error messages.

Is there some way to get around this without reseting the entire quest? What were supposed to happen after I took off the dress?

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, RainbowDash1 said:

The Quest  "learning the ropes" is broken.

When I get to the stage when I have to wear a dress and go to into the Temple of Dibella at Markarth, I meet Sonna, who makes me take off the dress, but then, nothing happens.

• Talking to her again being nude or with another clothes but the quest dress doesnt trigger any script or dialogue. She just look at me and makes her basic dialogue telling me her sisters are performing a ritual downstairs.
• Putting the quest dress on and talking to her triggers the first dialogue, where she makes me to undress. The dressing script occurs, but once again I'm left at nothing. 
• Letting the undressing script and manually removing the dress doesn't make any difference
• Tried getstage and setstage commands, but they show me error messages.

Is there some way to get around this without reseting the entire quest? What were supposed to happen after I took off the dress?

 

Sex is supposed to happen. I'd guess sexlab is really lagging for you here. Don't take it off manually, when it seems stalled open the console for a few seconds or minute to let the scripts catch up.

[RainbowDash1]

38 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Sex is supposed to happen. I'd guess sexlab is really lagging for you here. Don't take it off manually, when it seems stalled open the console for a few seconds or minute to let the scripts catch up.

As you said. I reseted both Sexlab and Zaz animations and got it working. Thanks!

[callmefig]

I'm having Bodyslide shape/reference problem that I can't quite figure out creating an immersion issue. I'd appreciate any tips or brainstorming to help me find a solution.

 

For the life of me I cannot get a clothed body shape when building the padded bra from that preset in bodyslide -- even when using/exporting the NIF with the specific reference and slider presets like I've done for other stubborn pieces in the past. I've tried loading reference, importing sliders, loading outfit, conforming, saving, and building. I have also tried loading a dress outfit that correctly applies clothed body shape, importing the padded bra onto the confirmed working reference and sliders, and then building. Dress example and clothed body shape below:

Spoiler

 

When I use the shape to build the padded bra my body shape remains in it's naked form that lacks the breast push up effect and I get terrible clipping. See example below:

Spoiler

 

The best I can manage so far is matching the padded bra to my naked shape, but I really dislike the way this looks. I don't want the chastity equipment to appear tailor made; rather I want it to look like crude blacksmithing the character would be forced into. Example of the molded bra below:

Spoiler

 

Is there a way for me to attach a specific body shape reference to be applied when wearing the padded bra so that piece being equipped makes my body shape go from the naked version to the clothed version? That would be the best solution as I'm setting up outfits ranging from light to heavy equipment so most pieces require naked version of body shape, and only specific pieces like the dresses or chastity bras would prioritize the clothed version?

 

To confirm methods/things I've already tried:

• I have the 5.2 3BA sliders from a comment on page 110. I have rebuilt all outfits through bodyslide with morphs from this slider set.
• For all approaches I have tried both HDT and non HDT versions of the padded bra
• My Outfit overwrites are not being overwritten by anything else
• For most fixes I have toggled Devious Devices handling of Breast Nodes to resize them when wearing padded bra but haven't noticed any change when it's off or on besides adjusting the bra cup size to weight scale versus my characters proportions.
• I have built Padded Bra with clothed shape preset sliders like I normally would; but in other cases it's an armor piece vs a clothing piece and not what could be an "underwear" or accessory piece. That may be what's stopping the reference but even the dresses have the same symbol, so I'm not sure if they are classified differently.
• I have opened Padded Bra in outfit studio, loaded reference, imported sliders, conformed, and saved outfit. Then I've built the mesh from bodyslide with morphs using my clothed preset.
• I have loaded a dress from 3BA slider outfits in outfit studio which correctly changes body shape, loaded padded bra outfit onto existing reference and sliders, conformed, saved, and built mesh through bodyslide with morphs.
• I have built mesh in Bodyslide using beta sliders, opened the low/high weight versions in outfit studio, added reference, imported sliders, conformed, checked fit, and exported the NIF with reference to replace them.

 

So far nothing I've tried has gotten the padded bra to change my body shape when equipped. If I'm wearing one without a dress or catsuit etc my nude body shape persists and breasts clip through. I've only managed changes to shape when wearing any of the dress versions(aside from straitjackets as I haven't used those outfits in game yet).

 

Does anyone know of a good fix or maybe recommend something I've already tried again in a clear order if one of the solutions I've tried seemed like it would've worked? It's possible I did something out of order, or skipped something important. Would really appreciate any insight as I've been cracking along all day without much luck. I don't even know if these outfits are going to get applied correctly during Naked Defeat aftermath because I've been stuck on getting this one piece to fit correctly.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, callmefig said:

Is there a way for me to attach a specific body shape reference to be applied when wearing the padded bra so that piece being equipped makes my body shape go from the naked version to the clothed version?

 

The body is slot 32, the padded bra is slot 56. The only thing bodies can be included with is a 'body' piece like the hobble skirt in your first image.

This is not a DD limitation, it's the game itself. Even if you include the body with the bra, it's not used, either the naked body or the body included with whatever is in slot 32 will be used. Including the body with a non body item will also cause each piece to hit your performance harder as well as do absolutely nothing visually.

 

In short, I don't think what you're trying to do can be done. If I could work around it i would have fixed the non hdt bras so the breasts don't clip through them.

[callmefig]

15 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

The body is slot 32, the padded bra is slot 56. The only thing bodies can be included with is a 'body' piece like the hobble skirt in your first image.

This is not a DD limitation, it's the game itself. Even if you include the body with the bra, it's not used, either the naked body or the body included with whatever is in slot 32 will be used. Including the body with a non body item will also cause each piece to hit your performance harder as well as do absolutely nothing visually.

 

In short, I don't think what you're trying to do can be done. If I could work around it i would have fixed the non hdt bras so the breasts don't clip through them.

 

Thanks for the reply!

Would it be possible to create an additional padded bra + padded belt open outfit to fill slot 32?

 

I could see some issues stemming from combining with some body shapes, but I'm curious. I only use outfit features so for me it seems like a semi tidy solution as rarely do I have one without the other, but maybe it's not the case for the majority of users.

Edited October 7, 2022 by callmefig

[MightySphinx]

I'm having a problem with FNIS where the behavior of devious devices causes a warning. I think it's a common problem but I can't find anything online so if someone could help me find a resource or files to fix it I'd appreciate it. For reference, I'm using the most up to date stable versions of devious devices, DD Integration, DD Expansion, and DD Assets alongside Deviously Cursed Loot. Here's the FNIS log so you have an idea of what problem im getting. And if possible please make it easy to understand for someone who barely understands modding

FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL   2022-10-07 4:45:47 PM
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.97.0 - C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"  
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  
Patch: * tktk1's "TK Dodge / Ultimate Combat"  (CTD:0.3%)
>>Warning: * tktk1's "TK Dodge / Ultimate Combat"  not installed<<
Patch: * xp32's "Momo Acrobatic Jump"  

>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DD_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading DD V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:641(493)     CTD:11.2%     pOpt:1.0%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DD2_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:330(330)     CTD:9.3%     pOpt:0.0%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DD3_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ...     ChAnims:102(102)     CTD:2.5%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading DDC V1.2 ...     ChAnims:58     CTD:0.4%     pOpt:0.2%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_DDSL_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ...     ChAnims:410     CTD:2.8%     pOpt:0.9%
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_Deviously Cursed Loot_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V9.0 ...     ChAnims:23     CTD:0.2%     pOpt:0.1%
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...     ChAnims:0     CTD:0.0%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ...     ChAnims:94     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.6%
Reading SexLab V1.63 ...     ChAnims:882     CTD:5.6%     pOpt:1.5%
Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ...     ChAnims:142     CTD:0.9%     pOpt:0.2%
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...     ChAnims:5     CTD:0.1%     pOpt:0.0%
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...     ChAnims:177     CTD:1.2%     pOpt:0.3%
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...     ChAnims:164(164)     CTD:2.2%     pOpt:0.0%

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
No GENDER directory female
Alternate Animation mods: 4 sets: 41 total groups: 170 added file slots: 1306 alternate files: 1089

Creature Pack not installed

 3028 animations for 13 mods successfully included (character).
ChAnims: 3028(1089)  CTD:36.0%  pOpt:4.8%  max: 8414  LC: 9415 (max. 26162)

 6 Warning(s).

Thanks in advance