Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

16 minutes ago, kabalfs said:

Not using any of those, actually using the basic sla. 

I also don't understand the "didn't allow the end of vibration events", the event ends, but fires again as soon as it ends, the ending animation plays, then she gets up, then it fires again immediately. Over and over and over again. But not always, for some reason... 

 

The only constantly vibrating event i know of came from an arousal bug, not something in DD. I was thinking it was something similar to that, and with that bug they actually don't have an end, it's just the same never ending vibration, it never turned off or let you orgasm.

 

Check your arousal, if you're at 100%, try getting it down lower by having sex. You can try frigid potions too if you have DCL, but at that point you usually need several, and it won't reduce all the way. your chance of getting an event increases with your arousal.

 

Do you have other mods that have their own vibration events? Such as Toys?

 

What version of DD are you using?
Do you have a papyrus log of when this was occurring?

[kabalfs]

13 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

The only constantly vibrating event i know of came from an arousal bug, not something in DD. I was thinking it was something similar to that, and with that bug they actually don't have an end, it's just the same never ending vibration, it never turned off or let you orgasm.

 

Check your arousal, if you're at 100%, try getting it down lower by having sex. You can try frigid potions too if you have DCL, but at that point you usually need several, and it won't reduce all the way. your chance of getting an event increases with your arousal.

 

Do you have other mods that have their own vibration events? Such as Toys?

 

What version of DD are you using?
Do you have a papyrus log of when this was occurring?

No log, sorry. Using version SE 5.1.7.

Arousal is 100% all the time because chastity belt, but no other event happen like this, only vibration. Stuff like horny happen once in a blue moon and seem to respect cooldown, but vibration gives a big middle finger to cooldown and repeats itself mayhem-style. 

 

Only mods I have that interact with DD in any way are Devious Heatrise and Devious Training, and, in fact, the plugs were given by a quest from Devious Heatrise, but they are from DD, and other than the vibration event firing nonstop, I had no problem to speak of, everything works normally, other events fire normally and cooldown properly too. 

 

Edit: I'm going to use this opportunity for something else, since I'm struggling with a bug in DT, I'll ask here, is there any way to disable gag effects like not being able to eat, shout or talk? I installed DT to use gags but not have the negative effect, except DT is bugged and ONLY gags keep negative effect at fully trained, which is the main reason I had it in the first place... Thanks in advance, if not possible I'll just get rid of DT. 

Edited February 5, 2022 by kabalfs

[zarantha]

15 minutes ago, kabalfs said:

No log, sorry. Using version SE 5.1.7.

Arousal is 100% all the time because chastity belt, but no other event happen like this, only vibration. Stuff like horny happen once in a blue moon and seem to respect cooldown, but vibration gives a big middle finger to cooldown and repeats itself mayhem-style. 

 

Only mods I have that interact with DD in any way are Devious Heatrise and Devious Training, and, in fact, the plugs were given by a quest from Devious Heatrise, but they are from DD, and other than the vibration event firing nonstop, I had no problem to speak of, everything works normally, other events fire normally and cooldown properly too. 

 

Edit: I'm going to use this opportunity for something else, since I'm struggling with a bug in DT, I'll ask here, is there any way to disable gag effects like not being able to eat, shout or talk? I installed DT to use gags but not have the negative effect, except DT is bugged and ONLY gags keep negative effect at fully trained, which is the main reason I had it in the first place... Thanks in advance, if not possible I'll just get rid of DT. 

 

No way to disable the gag effects that I know of. You should be able to change the weights for the preferred gag type to ring or plug gags. those will let you eat and drink.

I've never used either heatrise or training. I'd suggest removing them and see if that fixes the vibration issue too. You may need to start a new game to test that.

[zarantha]

23 minutes ago, kabalfs said:

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Looks like it's probably a devious heatrise bug. see the posts by xeeuq and farsh-nukeon the last page:
 

 

[LesboIsBesto]

Got 2 questions:

 

1. I need help with the device hider. I have it completely disabled yet it's seems to be impacting all DD arm cuffs. But its not just hiding them, its straight up keeping them from being equipped to me properly. When I equip a set of arm cuffs, it gives me the usual dialogue but it doesn't show it on my body even though my inventory shows it equipped. When I remove it, it does that right too but when I re-equip it, it doesn't give me the options for devices like the 1st time & just lets it be removed & equipped like any item. Its occurring only with arm cuffs so far, I tried others like armbinders & gags, no problems. When I check my inventory in the console, the device hider is in the same slot as arm cuffs would go in, Slot 59. Everything in the Devices Underneath pages is disabled though & even after the console shows the device hider is gone, no arm cuffs will equip to me correctly still so idk what to do here.

EDIT: Disabling the hider mid-playthrough wouldn't bring back the cuffs but rolling back to a previous save in Alt Start cell & disabling the hider there let the cuffs function again.

 

2. Does disabling the Use Bound Animations setting now really remove armbinders during sex animations? I thought it was my SexLab strip settings but then I read that description in the MCM. In Oldrim, I had that setting disabled to prevent animations from being filtered because those filters would cut my animation list down to near nothing depending on some devices which I hated but disabling it didn't remove any devices. But here in SE, it says it removes the device which I don't want to happen either. Personally idc if the device doesn't look right for an animation, I just want to stay tied up with everything I got for any animation. Would I have to re-enable the filter to keep said devices equipped?

 

Also another problem I found while fixing the 1st one, none of the Steel devices under Devious Expansion have their textures. Plus there are 2 Steel Yokes & only one of them actually appear on my body. The device hider is still fully disabled this time & meshes & texture files all appear in the correct folders the way the AIO zip organized it.

Edited February 5, 2022 by LesboIsBesto

[Elsidia]

4 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

The device hider is still fully disabled this time & meshes & texture files all appear in the correct folders the way the AIO zip organized it.

This is when you start new game?

After start new game stay in LAL cell without any key pressing a time, can check necessary time in console (when all commands stop run)  Then enter in MCM and exit - wait a time while new MCM is activated. Then check MCM if sexlab is activated. If no, press activated button manually.  Wait while sexlab initializes.  Then save a game and load again. After load if you have no many mods will activates dd animations (what not happen because of disabled Sexlab) Also in this load device hider is initialized and can it check into DD MCM. If you have more mods you maybe need more save and load to initialize all your other mods. After a few save - load events if console is peacefully and all mods shows up in MCM you can start a game playing. This is how Skyrim modding works.

 

4 hours ago, LesboIsBesto said:

Does disabling the Use Bound Animation

This is new DD 5.1 feature on LE and SE.

 

[kabalfs]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Looks like it's probably a devious heatrise bug. see the posts by xeeuq and farsh-nukeon the last page:
 

 

Indeed it seems to be a problem with heatrise, although I have yet to see a problem with shock events... 

I "fixed" the problem by disabling vibration events altogether, now everything works fine. 

 

Still, I'll give up all the kinky stuff for the time being, I wanted the gag visual effect without dealing with the massive slow down of the negative effect, but since it can't be done, I'll just move on. Thanks for everything. 

[LesboIsBesto]

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

This is when you start new game?

This is while currently in the LAL cell of a game I already made but have not chosen a scenario to start the world in. Entering the world does not fix any of the Steel devices either. To clarify, all the Steel stuff besides one of the Yokes in expansion work as expected, its just that they're missing textures. That one Steel Yoke though is missing meshes & textures but still locks me up & unequips as expected.

 

9 hours ago, Elsidia said:

This is new DD 5.1 feature on LE and SE.

Does it apply to only armbinders & such or all devices with conflicting animations like oral animations while wearing a ball gag? 

Edited February 5, 2022 by LesboIsBesto

[zarantha]

23 minutes ago, LesboIsBesto said:

This is while currently in the LAL cell of a game I already made but have not chosen a scenario to start the world in. Entering the world does not fix any of the Steel devices either. To clarify, all the Steel stuff besides one of the Yokes in expansion work as expected, its just that they're missing textures. That one Steel Yoke though is missing meshes & textures but still locks me up & unequips as expected.

 

Does it apply to only armbinders & such or all devices with conflicting animations like oral animations while wearing a ball gag? 

 

If you're on 5.1 and don't have DCL also installed, there's a missing textures fix on the troubleshooting post. try that.

 

The animation filter can no longer be completely disabled since 5.0.  Any conflicting devices should be removed if you uncheck the animation filter. If you want to keep the devices, you'll need to leave it checked, but you'll be restricted to compatible animations only. A fix for defaulting to belted solo so often may be put the next release - it's being looked at. It is not in the beta yet.

 

[LesboIsBesto]

13 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

If you're on 5.1 and don't have DCL also installed, there's a missing textures fix on the troubleshooting post. try that.

 

The animation filter can no longer be completely disabled since 5.0.  Any conflicting devices should be removed if you uncheck the animation filter. If you want to keep the devices, you'll need to leave it checked, but you'll be restricted to compatible animations only. A fix for defaulting to belted solo so often may be put the next release - it's being looked at. It is not in the beta yet.

 

rip, I liked keeping all devices on during anything, hope whatever that fix is does good. 

 

DCL is on my list of mods to add later on when I've gotten other stuff done so good to know the fix is there

[Midnightbug]

I have tried to download 3 BA bodyslide for 5.02 and DCL, looks like the bras are not working?

[creepycream]

I'm still using the DD 4.3 version currently and was planning to update DD on a new play through. Which version would be best to use DD 5.1 or Beta 4? Also are the current 5.x versions better than 4.3? Thanks in advanced.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Midnightbug said:

I have tried to download 3 BA bodyslide for 5.02 and DCL, looks like the bras are not working?

 

Use the DD 5.2 beta bodyslides for DD.

DCL 3BBB link works fine.

 

What issue are you having with the bras? Have you rebuilt the bodyslides? Made sure the outputs are going to the right place?

[zarantha]

35 minutes ago, Limited Edition said:

I'm still using the DD 4.3 version currently and was planning to update DD on a new play through. Which version would be best to use DD 5.1 or Beta 4? Also are the current 5.x versions better than 4.3? Thanks in advanced.

 

The animation filter is gone. Some people don't like that, but it also prevents false reports of the filter not working.

There are many bugs fixed since 4.3

 

Either DD 5.1 or DD 5.2beta4 would work, when 5.2 releases you will be able to upgrade in place. The beta has been stable, mostly what we worked through with the first few were cosmetic changes to the outfits and their file structure and some new outfits. Bug fixes are going into it now starting with beta 4, so if you think you have encountered a bug, it's best to update to the latest beta to see if it's been fixed.

 

DD is compatible with AE starting in 5.2. If you are using AE, it's recommended to use that version.

[creepycream]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

The animation filter is gone. Some people don't like that, but it also prevents false reports of the filter not working.

There are many bugs fixed since 4.3

 

Either DD 5.1 or DD 5.2beta4 would work, when 5.2 releases you will be able to upgrade in place. The beta has been stable, mostly what we worked through with the first few were cosmetic changes to the outfits and their file structure and some new outfits. Bug fixes are going into it now starting with beta 4, so if you think you have encountered a bug, it's best to update to the latest beta to see if it's been fixed.

 

DD is compatible with AE starting in 5.2. If you are using AE, it's recommended to use that version.

Thank you, this was super helpful. I'm still on SE for now. I will definitely try out 5.2beta4 this time.

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, Limited Edition said:

Thank you, this was super helpful. I'm still on SE for now. I will definitely try out 5.2beta4 this time.

 

Just realized I phrased something very badly.

 

The animation filter is not completely gone, but the ability to disable it is gone. So if you have it checked, you will only see bound animations that work with your devices. If you uncheck it, you get more animations, but the devices will be temporarily removed for the duration of the scene. Sorry for the confusion.

[agukiin51]

Hello, good, I have a problem that appeared a few days ago and I don't know what it could be due to, this happens every so often, while I walk, and sometimes when using fast travel, in principle everything is installed correctly pff .... . any ideas? Greetings guys!!!

Edited February 7, 2022 by agukiin51

[natybs]

can someone please tell me where to find jack the belter? or how i can fast travel again during this quest i dont see an option in the mcm to disable the no fast travel durring quests and i am sick of it durring jack 

i mean there has to be a console command to reenable fast travel right? but enablefasttravel 1 didnt work

 

nvm i looked up jacks code and consoel teleported to him to get free but its kind disapointing that you cant enable fast travel anyway during this quest. i wish kimmy would add an option to the mcm for this

Edited February 8, 2022 by natybs

[zarantha]

17 hours ago, agukiin51 said:

Hello, good, I have a problem that appeared a few days ago and I don't know what it could be due to, this happens every so often, while I walk, and sometimes when using fast travel, in principle everything is installed correctly pff .... . any ideas? Greetings guys!!!

 

 

You've messed up your install/game somehow.

 

Either start a completely new game with a new save that never had DD installed, or uninstall DD, do a clean save, clean your save with resaver/fallrim tools, make sure that save works and save again, then reinstall DD.

[zarantha]

12 hours ago, natybs said:

can someone please tell me where to find jack the belter? or how i can fast travel again during this quest i dont see an option in the mcm to disable the no fast travel durring quests and i am sick of it durring jack 

i mean there has to be a console command to reenable fast travel right? but enablefasttravel 1 didnt work

 

nvm i looked up jacks code and consoel teleported to him to get free but its kind disapointing that you cant enable fast travel anyway during this quest. i wish kimmy would add an option to the mcm for this

 

That's a DCL question, not DD. There's a mcm option to allow fast travel for some quests. but it won't disable it for everything.

 

I like this little cheat plugin in the spoiler:

 

[Elsidia]

17 hours ago, natybs said:

tell me where to find jack the belter?

Ok game based answer - as i feel it in DCL 8.5.

Jack the Belter quest is most annoying and short quest in DCL. Even in FO4 DCW this quest is more interesting and easy.

For that moment i have active teleport. Somehow it's bugged up. Also you can use carriage to travel in world. But for my feelings Jack the Belter after time change a location in world. I never can find him. He is into some inn in world. I found Jack accidentally, when after surrender i was teleported to inn where Jack was at this moment. For that moment i never activate the quest Jack the Belter. In original Skyrim is easy - you just not need to sleep or sleep in own home. The Jack not trigger.

 

Lyrics. I just can't understand a Jack.  He have have a key and nobody can't unlock it. Key is hidden or how unlock know only Jack. Then why it's unlock a belt immediately as player shows up?))) He hates women, but are the puppet of women.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Elsidia

[natybs]

13 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Ok game based answer - as i feel it in DCL 8.5.

Jack the Belter quest is most annoying and short quest in DCL. Even in FO4 DCW this quest is more interesting and easy.

For that moment i have active teleport. Somehow it's bugged up. Also you can use carriage to travel in world. But for my feelings Jack the Belter after time change a location in world. I never can find him. He is into some inn in world. I found Jack accidentally, when after surrender i was teleported to inn where Jack was at this moment. For that moment i never activate the quest Jack the Belter. In original Skyrim is easy - you just not need to sleep or sleep in own home. The Jack not trigger.

 

Lyrics. I just can't understand a Jack.  He have have a key and nobody can't unlock it. Key is hidden or how unlock know only Jack. Then why it's unlock a belt immediately as player shows up?))) He hates women, but are the puppet of women.

wasnt the jack quest in fallout when you get belted in the cryopod at the beggining?

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, natybs said:

wasnt the jack quest in fallout when you get belted in the cryopod at the beggining?

Nope

In cryopod are DCW main quest Belted!

Jack the Belter are random quest what triggers when you loot cursed container or sleep in bed.  Can't be triggered while main quests Belted! or Alise is running.

And those 3 are only all quests in DCW)

Edited February 8, 2022 by Elsidia

[creepycream]

Looking at the troubleshooting post I see a SLIF patch for 5.1, is the patch no longer needed for the latest beta4?

Edited February 9, 2022 by Limited Edition

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, Limited Edition said:

Looking at the troubleshooting post I see a SLIF patch for 5.1, is the patch no longer needed for the latest beta4?

 

No, it will be needed, I just haven't redone it as I switched from using SLIF to just let racemenu handle all the inflation. Since I'm not using it anymore, I'd rather just update and compile it once DD 5.2 is out of beta, if there's still a demand for it.

 

Do not use the 5.1 SLIF patch with DD 5.2.

 

Racemenu SKEE settings:

Spoiler

 

Create a custom ini so you don't lose the settings when updating racemenu. By setting these to max, then the mod with the largest morph size wins, which is pretty much what SLIF does for how I had it configured.

 

SKSE\Plugins\skee64_custom.ini

 

[General]
; Determines scaling mode
; 0 - Multiplicative
; 1 - Averaged
; 2 - Additive
; 3 - Maximum
iScaleMode=3

 

; Determines key merging method (when there are two body morph keys for the same morph)
; 0 - Additive
; 1 - Averaged
; 2 - Maximum
iBodyMorphMode=2