Is it hard to get into the USA?

[Just your friend]

Hi LoversLab

As I wrote in the topic, is it hard to get into the USA? It's my biggest dream but right now I need to get visa because citizens of my country still needs visas to travel to USA. But when I get one I want to travel there and start my new life. And there goes my question. I don't have any friends or family there, I don't know any city or state (but I try to find more and more infos about Los Angeles CA, my dream city).

So...any LL user tried their luck moving to USA and starting a new life? How was that? Is it hard? How about money, place to sleep, work and other stuff? If I missed something then write it and I will try to answer you ASAP

[Guest]

You first need to find a job there.

Then when you get an agreement for the job, the company that is hiring you can apply for a visa. Usually an H2 or a L2.

Both can last up to 5 years.

[Cock Sucker]

depends on you I suppose...

 

If you take in account trump, if your Mexican, or from south America low chance.

If your a muslim low chance but depends again where your from.

If you got a criminal record (and you have to be truthful to them about it) I think its like Australia.. very low chance

If you got low savings, low chance

 

plus LA? unless my memories bad and it usually is LA, California like Canada are hyper on the LGBTQW xyz abc nonsense

 

 

[Just your friend]

2 minutes ago, KM100z said:

depends on you I suppose...

 

If you take in account trump, if your Mexican, or from south America low chance.

If your a muslim low chance but depends again where your from.

If you got a criminal record (and you have to be truthful to them about it) I think its like Australia.. very low chance

If you got low savings, low chance

 

plus LA? unless my memories bad and it usually is LA, California like Canada are hyper on the LGBTQW xyz abc nonsense

 

 

Thank You for your request I'm not Mexican, Muslim and I don't have criminal records. But what are low saving? Like how many dollars will be good for a start?

6 minutes ago, CPU said:

You first need to find a job there.

Then when you get an agreement for the job, the company that is hiring you can apply for a visa. Usually an H2 or a L2.

Both can last up to 5 years.

Thank you too CPU (nice rhyme ) for request. Well, can I find a job in USA if I finish school in my country (IT school, not college) BUT I want to go to the college in USA?

 

And sorry people if I ask questions that can be found in Google but honestly I don't know how to find my answers in Google

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Just your friend said:

Thank You for your request I'm not Mexican, Muslim and I don't have criminal records. But what are low saving? Like how many dollars will be good for a start?

Thank you too CPU (nice rhyme ) for request. Well, can I find a job in USA if I finish school in my country (IT school, not college) BUT I want to go to the college in USA?

 

And sorry people if I ask questions that can be found in Google but honestly I don't know how to find my answers in Google

Doing the college in US costs a godzillion of money. And colleges there are not really the best in the world.

In case you are from Europe or far East (Japan or South Corea) way better to do the college there.

[KoolHndLuke]

For L.A. I would think you would need quite alot of money unless you like living in a cesspool of crime. I live around another city in central US and the crime rate is bad. Gang shit mostly. You better learn how to look up info and make some contacts before you even think about coming here. The law is a fucking joke and no will care about what happens to some immigrant that just got here. It ain't nothing like what you see on t.v. or read about. I say get the best education you can where you are, get a job with an international company either based in the US or that has branches here and learn more about this place before making a final decision.

[Just your friend]

6 minutes ago, CPU said:

Doing the college in US costs a godzillion of money. And colleges there are not really the best in the world.

In case you are from Europe or far East (Japan or South Corea) way better to do the college there.

That's good to know. Thanks

 

5 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

For L.A. I would think you would need quite alot of money unless you like living in a cesspool of crime. I live around another city in central US and the crime rate is bad. Gang shit mostly. You better learn how to look up info and make some contacts before you even think about coming here. The law is a fucking joke and no will care about what happens to some immigrant that just got here.

That's bad to hear. I'll definitely try to make some contacts there and find some friends to help me.

[Cock Sucker]

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/usa/entry-requirements

 

this is the UK requirements to enter the USA as a guide

 

https://www.usa.gov/enter-us

 

this is the US Guide as well

[MorePrinniesDood]

On 4/2/2018 at 11:09 AM, Just your friend said:

(but I try to find more and more infos about Los Angeles CA, my dream city).

Start by researching house and apartment prices there. Los Angeles in an incredibly expensive city to live in.

 

If you're OK with that, find a company that's willing to pay you a salary you can live in LA on and sponsor you for a visa.

 

Also remember that the US does not have universal health care. Make sure said company will offer you a good medical and dental insurance plan.

[SmedleyDButler]

All I can say is that I can't really recommend ANYONE move to the US now unless they're white and have tech billionaire amounts of money. And even then I wouldn't really recommend it - that country is not what it used to be.

 

Come to Canada instead! It'll be great here, right up until the day the US finally gets around to invading us.

 

More seriously, going to college in the US is a poor idea if you have any other options. It's a mediocre education unless you're at one of the top schools and costs more than almost anywhere else in the world.

[TheWilloughbian]

I'm gonna have to agree and say there are much better places in the world than LA.  I've been there and I hated it.  I've done a couple trips from Cleveland, Ohio (where I live) to the west coast and back. I'd have to say I liked New Mexico and Arizona the best. Oregon was nice to, but reminded me of Ohio. Stay out of Las Vegas at least until you get some friends to watch your back. Austin, Texas is fun, but Dallas can be a little hairy. I haven't seen much of the East coast or the "South" other than a little jaunt I did to North Carolina. 

 

But, yeah. Don't rush into moving to the states. I'm not saying it's a bad place, but it can be just as dangerous as any other place in the world. It's not a warzone or anything, but it definitely has it's ghettos and wierdo factions. 

 

 

 

[Sethster]

In general, what you need the most is money. 

If LA is the dream, even if you do manage to find a job online that will secure you a visa, you'll be living a miserable life. Along with San Francisco, it's one of the most expensive cities to live comfortably in. So yeah, unless you're loaded, it'll be anything but a 'dream life'. 

 

As someone said above, US is huge. There are a bunch of other much cheaper, SAFER and still beautiful towns to live in. Don't restrict yourself to these massive cities which will be a pain in the ass to get used to.

And yeah, you'll face difficulties in case you're of different race. It's not a joke. 

[winny257]

I know some Americans, whom I should help to emigrate to Germany, but vice versa is new to me.
if someone comes to Germany (immigrants) then that person gets full support, monthly money, an apartment with furniture and maybe even a job (everything from the state)!
If you want to go to America (Citizenship) you should at least speak English fluently, and have a large starting capital (money for several years).
There is no pension insurance, no health insurance, therefore you need a lot of money.
but I wish that your dream comes true. 

[dharvinia]

58 minutes ago, winny257 said:

that person gets full support, monthly money, an apartment with furniture and maybe even a job (everything from the state)!

Move to Canada, you get all the things Winny mentioned BUT only if you are Muslim,  East Indian, or just non white. Even if you have a criminal record you are still welcome, and if you do commit a crime while you are there , you will not be deported.

 If you are white, they will spit on your passport and send you back home.

In Canada, no white Christians allowed.

[Kimy]

I am Canadian, not American, and I am also not an immigration lawyer and have otherwise no personal experience with the topic, so take this with a grain of salt:

 

Generally, you picked a bad time to move to another country. Despite traveling is mechanically easier than ever, at no point in human history has it been harder to settle abroad than today. There is no desirable country left on Earth that's easy to get into, and never have borders been tighter than they are now. All countries you remotely would want to live in strictly limit immigration numbers and have requirements really difficult to meet for an average person. The US have been traditionally harder to get in than e.g. Canada or New Zealand (several US tech firms actually set up shop here in Canada, because here it's easier for them to get their international workers in).

 

Now, you didn't say where you are from or what your background is, but I have to disagree with the posters who discouraged studying in the US. This is true for both Canada and the US: Studying here is one of the only remaining viable routes to come here these days. You need a job offer to qualify for any non-family based immigrant visa. The crux is that most employers here don't even look at international applications (unless you are working in the tech sector, that's the only exception I am aware of). Sponsoring a visa is expensive and time-consuming, so they greatly prefer domestic applicants (which is obviously the intended effect), and there is no real labor shortage in most sectors, so they WILL find a domestic candidate. However, if you are studying here, you are allowed to work while you study - which opens the door to permanent employment (most immigrants I personally know used -exactly- this route to come here!). Also, a student visa is a LOT easier to get than a work permit. Yes, US colleges are horrible unless you can afford an Ivy League school, but if you want to go there - I'd say that's the way to go, if you can afford it. The only other viable way to get a work visa I can think of is getting a job in a US-owned company in your country and make them send you over. Unless you have a VERY in-demand qualification, applying directly from abroad is probably not going to work.

 

In any case, prepare for a lot of blood, sweat and tears. It's not going to be easy. At least no immigrant I ever met said anything to the contrary.

[Sarathis]

Before 9/11 it was relatively easy to get into the U.S. Since then it's become progressively more difficult. The process of becoming an actual citizen is ridiculously bogged down with red tape and will take years. Getting in on a visa is easier but still arduous. The Trump administration came into power basically on a platform of Immigration reform, as in kick as many as possible out, so it's really not a good time to start the process. 

[winny257]

3 hours ago, dharvinia said:

Move to Canada, you get all the things Winny mentioned BUT only if you are Muslim,  East Indian, or just non white. Even if you have a criminal record you are still welcome, and if you do commit a crime while you are there , you will not be deported.

 If you are white, they will spit on your passport and send you back home.

In Canada, no white Christians allowed.

that's tough, in Germany there is not this racial discrimination.
there are some groups (right-wing radicals) the foreigners decline, but most Germans accept foreigners, I myself have some Africans and Turks as friends.
it is though difficult to deal with of their mentality but I accept they the way they are.
 

[Slorm]

1 hour ago, winny257 said:

that's tough, in Germany there is not this racial discrimination.
there are some groups (right-wing radicals) the foreigners decline, but most Germans accept foreigners, I myself have some Africans and Turks as friends.
it is though difficult to deal with of their mentality but I accept they the way they are.
 

 

I can only speak as I find, but last year I was in Berlin for a few days and found everyone delightfully welcoming even when trying my really really bad German Hope to go back again real soon

[Just your friend]

Thank You all for your replies friends  I'm really glad for this big response to my post. Also I'm glad for all that knowledge that you passed to me. I'll do some more research, maybe think about some other places like some of you advised, maybe stay at my plice. Time will show. Again thank you all for response to this post  

[TheWilloughbian]

I think Kimy has it right in that "Studying Abroad" for a year or two is a good way to check out the US and see if you even like it. There's plenty of "affordable" colleges and you should have a little time to see the sights.  

[Guest]

If you were here (magically showed up somehow with a visa) you could seek a spouse, and in the long (very long) rules they say,

if there is a bigwig official who knows you and wants you,

or if you can entertain  (so, celebrity status),

and (This part is from memory) if you have a skill so rare that an employer prefers you over any citizen, then yeah.

 The spouse part is iffy, it takes years and years if you stay put.

The bigwig part is me rewording the text, but it's there, if you really look.

The entertainer thing I'm not sure of,

and the only one I've ever seen work is the one about the employer seeking your superhuman skills.

  So, uhm, become a tourist (a really hot one) seeking asylum and a spouse (because you marry before your visa expires), get a volunteer job.

 

I think someone's knocking at my door, I've gotta go now....

[Ruffled Pigeon]

5 hours ago, winny257 said:

that's tough, in Germany there is not this racial discrimination.
there are some groups (right-wing radicals) the foreigners decline, but most Germans accept foreigners, I myself have some Africans and Turks as friends.
it is though difficult to deal with of their mentality but I accept they the way they are.
 

 

>muh ebil right wing rudicals

Nah mate. Shit is pretty much the same here in Germany. You belong to some minority group? There you go man, have all the social welfare you want. Enjoy your stay!

Oh, what was that? You are a native who happened to lose his or her job due to bad luck and you may or may not end up being homeless? Sorry but if you don't want to work for min wage with which you basically can't live then we can't help you.

[SmedleyDButler]

On 05/04/2018 at 12:34 PM, dharvinia said:

Move to Canada, you get all the things Winny mentioned BUT only if you are Muslim,  East Indian, or just non white. Even if you have a criminal record you are still welcome, and if you do commit a crime while you are there , you will not be deported.

 If you are white, they will spit on your passport and send you back home.

In Canada, no white Christians allowed.

y a un Pur Laine parmi nous? Disons...

 

My wife is a white, christian immigrant to Canada and funny enough I don't recall her passport being spit on at any point.

 

 

[dharvinia]

1 hour ago, SmedleyDButler said:

y a un Pur Laine parmi nous? Disons...

My point exactly, why is it so easy for one group and not another.  Why does the political wind create the strife and misconception. 

Also, I am assuming that "wife wife" is a misprint, and that you do not have two wives

[vinfamy]

On 4/6/2018 at 12:07 AM, Kimy said:

Yes, US colleges are horrible unless you can afford an Ivy League school, but if you want to go there - I'd say that's the way to go, if you can afford it.

If you're good enough for these schools, might as well head over to the UK for Oxbridge instead. Oxbridge's tuition is small change compared to the Ivy League (especially if you're an EU citizen), and both undergraduate and (most) postgraduate degrees there take one year less than the US (some even graduate from their Masters programme before their 22nd birthday or even get their PhD by the age of 25/26). You can always take the option to go on an exchange semester at an Ivy League school in your second year - without paying Ivy League tuition, you're still paying just Oxbridge tuition for that semester.