Is it hard to get into the USA?

[SmedleyDButler]

1 hour ago, dharvinia said:

My point exactly, why is it so easy for one group and not another.  Why does the political wind create the strife and misconception. 

Also, I am assuming that "wife wife" is a misprint, and that you do not have two wives

You are correct that I do not have two wives.

[sarahsenpai]

On 4/4/2018 at 5:20 PM, MorePrinniesDood said:

Los Angeles in an incredibly expensive city to live in.

not rly. it depends on the area. you could get a p decent house in a nice area for only around $1mil, which is like middle class or whatevs. nice apartments in a good area are only $2-3k/month so anyone can afford it. for stores, there's lots of shops for many price ranges. lots of thrift stores too so it's hella cheap if you wanna save.

[RexxingFlex]

Just stumbled across this thread and thought I just add some on topic and yet slightly off topic commentary If nobody minds!

I am foreigner that lives somewhere in eastern Europe! Although I do have friends/relatives that have done well for themselves in the US, I have never considered moving there myself! Years of hearing about just horrifying stuff going on the street levels so to speak has left skeptical about ever wanting to even vacation in the US (and no I'm not talking about Gun crime, getting shot would be the least of my worries there)!

But sometimes the friendliness and honesty of many people that I had the pleasure of communicating online over the years makes me reconsider sometimes! I am seriously not exaggerating when I say that some of you guys are possibly the best human beings on this planet. It strikes me to be the perfect balance between respecting ones past and not being overly smug about it, yet defending such past to the death! It is impressive what good people there accomplish despite the odds being stacked against them at every possible level!

And this thread proves my point, no sugar coating, no miss leading info, and total honesty when it comes to ones personal knowledge! And all this for helping a complete stranger on a porn site....I'd want you guys as neighbors! I think we'd have fun!

Rock on you stupid Americans! And keep on lovin'

[Guest]

On ‎4‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 4:53 AM, sarahsenpai said:

not rly. it depends on the area. you could get a p decent house in a nice area for only around $1mil, which is like middle class or whatevs. nice apartments in a good area are only $2-3k/month so anyone can afford it. for stores, there's lots of shops for many price ranges. lots of thrift stores too so it's hella cheap if you wanna save.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/04/10/stabbing-on-east-la-bus/

 

I hate it when I write some really airhead post and it sits there for weeks on the bottom of the page,

like some monumental memorial to what I said when I was alive...

but this one, (written possibly years ago, and I've moved on) was something I read on Google about los angeles.

3k sounds like a lot for rent for an apartment. I mean, if you're a thrift store shopper and all, there Must be apartments for less than 3k/mo.

PS the videos they are showing are preceded by commercials.They must think you'll buy anything if you'll watch their videos.

[Veladarius]

California has a very high cost of living compared to a lot of other states. If you are looking to get into a technology job such as IT or programming you are probably better off getting some education where you are first as it will give you an advantage in getting a job and a visa. I know that there are a lot of companies in the city I live in that hires a lot of people from outside of the US here (Cincinnati, Ohio) as there are a number of major companies with their headquarters here and if you do well enough they can help with getting further education and likely help with permanent residency.

[sarahsenpai]

On 4/11/2018 at 2:33 PM, 2dk2c said:

3k sounds like a lot for rent for an apartment. I mean, if you're a thrift store shopper and all, there Must be apartments for less than 3k/mo.

PS the videos they are showing are preceded by commercials.They must think you'll buy anything if you'll watch their videos.

2-3k is p reasonable for a nice apartment in a good area. very affordable for most people. you could even find some smaller ones in good areas for around 1.5k maybe less. get yourself a roommate and it'll be cut in half. idk anyone that can't afford that.
i wouldn't worry about crime or w/e either because there's bad neighborhoods everywhere.

[SmedleyDButler]

Yeah, in really expensive places like the west coast or New York, what you see is a lot of apartment-sharing.

[winny257]

7 hours ago, sarahsenpai said:

2-3k is p reasonable for a nice apartment in a good area. very affordable for most people. you could even find some smaller ones in good areas for around 1.5k maybe less. get yourself a roommate and it'll be cut in half. idk anyone that can't afford that.
i wouldn't worry about crime or w/e either because there's bad neighborhoods everywhere.

2-3k = 2000 - 3000 $, holy shit how big are these apartments, 500 - 1000 square meters?
For this money you can already rent a whole house in Germany. 

[Psalam]

13 minutes ago, winny257 said:

2-3k = 2000 - 3000 $, holy shit how big are these apartments, 500 - 1000 square meters?
For this money you can already rent a whole house in Germany. 

The United States is a BIG place. Where I live (about 3 hours south of Veladrius), you can rent a whole house for far less than that. In general, prices are higher in urban areas and on the coasts. But even with that there are exceptions.

[winny257]

14 minutes ago, Psalam said:

The United States is a BIG place. Where I live (about 3 hours south of Veladrius), you can rent a whole house for far less than that. In general, prices are higher in urban areas and on the coasts. But even with that there are exceptions.

in larger cities, the rent at 100 square meters is usually 1500 euros.
in smaller towns and villages about 300-600 euros.

 

I personally do not pay rent. 

[Psalam]

16 minutes ago, winny257 said:

in larger cities, the rent at 100 square meters is usually 1500 euros.
in smaller towns and villages about 300-600 euros.

 

I personally do not pay rent. 

Must be nice. Oh wait, neither do I, I own my home.

Others, like Veladrius, could talk about urban rents with far more authority than I could (although I did pay rent for my children in Louisville, Kentucky for a while).

In the rural area in which I live rent runs about $500 per month for an apartment running probably more like 70-80 square meters (sorry, I had to convert "English" measurements to metric).

[winny257]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

Must be nice. Oh wait, neither do I, I own my home.

Others, like Veladrius, could talk about urban rents with far more authority than I could (although I did pay rent for my children in Louisville, Kentucky for a while).

In the rural area in which I live rent runs about $500 per month for an apartment running probably more like 70-80 square meters (sorry, I had to convert "English" measurements to metric).

Oh yeah, that to Convert is always a small problem, why are not there the same units of measure worldwide?
speed
Germany km\h = kilometers per hour, America  miles per hour.
time indication even stranger, Germany always starts with the smallest number.
Second, Minute, Hour, Day, Week, Month Year.
therefore, will that today's date written like that.
18. 04. 2018
in America
04. 18. 2018
hilarious 

[Psalam]

7 minutes ago, winny257 said:

Oh yeah, that to Convert is always a small problem, why are not there the same units of measure worldwide?
speed
Germany km\h = kilometers per hour, America  miles per hour.
time indication even stranger, Germany always starts with the smallest number.
Second, Minute, Hour, Day, Week, Month Year.
therefore, will that today's date written like that.
18. 04. 2018
in America
04. 18. 2018
hilarious 

You are so very right. I remember when I was in elementary school (decades ago) my teachers telling me that the USA would move to metric "soon." I believe that those of us who have become familiar with it (from our training) would love to change (I know I would). There would be a period of time in which many Americans would have trouble adjusting but within a generation it would be done and we could join the global community.

Over those selfsame decades I have heard the conspiracy theorists argue that the reasons we have not changed is because one (or more) American industries is trying to make it harder for foreign companies to compete (since they would have to retool for America). Given the many foreign auto makers (among other things) selling billions of dollars of merchandise in the USA I don't believe this holds water.

Finally, date and time. I have to say date is merely a matter of preference. That being said, I do agree that some agreement on how this is best done would be useful and beneficial in the long run (although as the Romans said "de gustibus non est disputandam"). It is telling, however, (and the pun is intentional) that the US military uses a 24 hour clock. So it is thirteen hundred hours rather than 1 PM if you are a fighter pilot, say, as in German "um dreizehn Uhr."

[winny257]

13 minutes ago, Psalam said:

It is telling, however, (and the pun is intentional) that the US military uses a 24 hour clock. So it is thirteen hundred hours rather than 1 PM if you are a fighter pilot, say, as in German "um dreizehn Uhr."

this is also here 24 hours a day.
but a few years ago (40-50) it was different.
13 o'clock was 1 o'clock in the afternoon.
24 o'clock was 12 o'clock midnight
 

[Psalam]

1 minute ago, winny257 said:

this is also here 24 hours a day.
but a few years ago (40-50) it was different.
13 o'clock was 1 o'clock in the afternoon.
24 o'clock was 12 o'clock midnight
 

And you make my point. Make the change and in a generation everyone thinks it is the norm (and always has been since most people don't bother to study history - even, maybe especially, their own).

[winny257]

14 minutes ago, Psalam said:

And you make my point. Make the change and in a generation everyone thinks it is the norm (and always has been since most people don't bother to study history - even, maybe especially, their own).

I have lived through many phases germany, brings that height old age with , time after war, cold war (when Germany was divided into two parts), socialism GDR, capitalism FRG, then the reunification 1989- 90.
 

[Psalam]

6 minutes ago, winny257 said:

I have lived through many phases germany, brings that height old age with , time after war, cold war (when Germany was divided into two parts), socialism GDR, capitalism FRG, then the reunification 1989- 90.
 

I undertand (since we are virtual contemporaries). On this side of the pond I would have listed it as Cold War (with constant refrain about nuclear Armageddon, cf. 1964 advertisement about Barry Goldwater running for president), the Civil Rights era which bled right into the Viet Nam war and ended with Watergate. There were the doldrums of the Carter years and a national resurgence under Ronald Reagan and the end of the Cold War (people seem to have forgotten nuclear Armageddon even though there are as many (or at least nearly as many) nuclear weapons as there was in 1964. This was followed by a brief period of prosperity ending with throwing it all away on wars that weren't needed (as if any war IS needed). Now, as it usually is, America is trying to redefine itself. I have no idea what my children will live to see.

[Ezarr]

3 hours ago, winny257 said:

2-3k = 2000 - 3000 $, holy shit how big are these apartments, 500 - 1000 square meters?
For this money you can already rent a whole house in Germany. 

Really? Then how much is it for a small apartment? And are you taking into account cities And the location, crime and stuff?

[winny257]

1 hour ago, Ezarr said:

Really? Then how much is it for a small apartment? And are you taking into account cities And the location, crime and stuff?

I had already written it here.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/96869-is-it-hard-to-get-into-the-usa/?do=findComment&comment=2215488

 

I live in a small town, 84,000 inhabitants, almost no crime, a little fistfight, sometimes a few drunks, but nothing dramatic.
my brother lives in a 210 square meter house and pays 1350 euros in the month.
Usually the rents here cost for 60-100 square meters, between 300-800 euros.
 

[winny257]

2 hours ago, Psalam said:

I undertand (since we are virtual contemporaries). On this side of the pond I would have listed it as Cold War (with constant refrain about nuclear Armageddon, cf. 1964 advertisement about Barry Goldwater running for president), the Civil Rights era which bled right into the Viet Nam war and ended with Watergate. There were the doldrums of the Carter years and a national resurgence under Ronald Reagan and the end of the Cold War (people seem to have forgotten nuclear Armageddon even though there are as many (or at least nearly as many) nuclear weapons as there was in 1964. This was followed by a brief period of prosperity ending with throwing it all away on wars that weren't needed (as if any war IS needed). Now, as it usually is, America is trying to redefine itself. I have no idea what my children will live to see.

You forgot something, arms race in space.
It started exactly on my birthday, on 04, october 1957 made it in space beep, beep, beep.
the first Sputnik. 

Spoiler

 

sorry in german

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1

[Psalam]

4 minutes ago, winny257 said:

You forgot something, arms race in space.
It started exactly on my birthday, on 04, october 1957 made it in space beep, beep, beep.
the first Sputnik. 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

sorry in german

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1

You are so right, The entire space race (including man to the moon, satellite proliferation and arms race - who can forget Reagan's Star Wars) played a major role from your birthday until the end of the Cold War. 

Sorry in English.

Es tut mir leid.

[winny257]

21 minutes ago, Psalam said:

You are so right, The entire space race (including man to the moon, satellite proliferation and arms race - who can forget Reagan's Star Wars) played a major role from your birthday until the end of the Cold War. 

Sorry in English.

Es tut mir leid.

you do not have to apologize, this is an American website, here is spoken in the regular English.
even though I do not speak a word of English, I prefer to be here, than on a German website. 

[sarahsenpai]

On 4/18/2018 at 8:25 AM, winny257 said:

2-3k = 2000 - 3000 $, holy shit how big are these apartments, 500 - 1000 square meters?
For this money you can already rent a whole house in Germany. 

its actually not expensive at all. anyone who's not poor can afford it. idk what a meter is. around 1000sq ft for a 1bed/1bath would be p normal for that price if the apt is in a good neighborhood. or you could get a studio for less.
i think people make more money in america than germany so prices kinda show that. idk.

[pdryden]

On 4/2/2018 at 12:21 PM, KM100z said:

depends on you I suppose...

 

If you take in account trump, if your Mexican, or from south America low chance.

If your a muslim low chance but depends again where your from.

If you got a criminal record (and you have to be truthful to them about it) I think its like Australia.. very low chance

If you got low savings, low chance

 

plus LA? unless my memories bad and it usually is LA, California like Canada are hyper on the LGBTQW xyz abc nonsense

 

 

Nonsense.  Stop listening to the boogie man liberal news channels.  Unlike the past the US is finally waking up to what it needs.  If you have a skill, can get a job by all means apply for a work VISA.  Just do it LEGALLY.

Most of these posts are ridiculous. 

 

If you want to sneak into the country, hide in the shadows, use our systems without paying into them and then cry foul when you get caught and deported then don't bother coming.

 

Even people that support President Trump like myself have NO problem with anyone from Mexico, South America, the Middle East (it really doesn't matter) LEGALLY immigrating here.  Just remember you moved HERE.  Do not expect us to bend over and speak your language or cater to your culture.  Yes we are a melting pot but that means if you move here become an American.  If I moved to France tomorrow I wouldn't expect every French Government service to print things in English for me.  I would learn how to speak and write French!

 

As for Lonely Hunter it's nice the Germany is willing to give you everything for "free" but you do realize that "free" eventually costs SOMEONE and that someone is the paying citizens of Germany.  In the US if you're willing to work hard you can achieve anything, but we are not a socialist country but lots of people would like to turn us into one. 

 

And to the original poster LA is definitely VERY expensive, but I would first try to get a job anywhere and establish yourself here, and get a pathway to citizenship started.  Once you have that you can move anywhere in the country.

Good luck.

 

 

 

 

 

[manchuligans]

On 4/2/2018 at 9:09 AM, Just your friend said:

Hi LoversLab

As I wrote in the topic, is it hard to get into the USA? It's my biggest dream but right now I need to get visa because citizens of my country still needs visas to travel to USA. But when I get one I want to travel there and start my new life. And there goes my question. I don't have any friends or family there, I don't know any city or state (but I try to find more and more infos about Los Angeles CA, my dream city).

So...any LL user tried their luck moving to USA and starting a new life? How was that? Is it hard? How about money, place to sleep, work and other stuff? If I missed something then write it and I will try to answer you ASAP

 

 

Hi, I'm replying late, but I hope my comments are useful.

 

 

First of all don't believe the media, not a fucking word they say.  It's all political, it's all propaganda.  The USA is going through an intense political conflict right now, and sometimes that conflict is violent.  Immigration is part of that conflict.

 

 

Immigrating to the USA has been difficult for a long time, because of the absurd immigration system we have.  

 

You already write English, so I think you can probably speak English without too much difficulty (Google translate won't help you though!)

 

So, look into these options:

 

Talk to an immigration lawyer first, because he or she will know what the current laws and procedures are.  Never lie and follow the law.  If you get a visa, renew the visa according to the law and do not fail!  If you want to be a permanent resident, you have to do things hard right way.

 

Employment visa.  There are 100,000s of employment visas issued each year.  Find out the particular office and just apply.  If you can do any job, apply for the correct visa for your qualification.  Remember there is always seasonal labor in ski resorts, hotels, that kind of thing.  You don't have to harvest crops even though that pays decently sometimes.  Many of the people who work in agriculture are illegal immigrants and they can be rough people.  Try for any job, just to get a job and get accustomed to the USA.  Ask the immigration lawyer what type of job skills the USA is looking for right now.  Check out a corporate employment agency.  They will try very hard to get you a job in the USA because they get paid.  Just remember, big companies in the USA will treat you like slave labor.  They will pay you less, threaten you with deportation, and expect you to keep your head down and be an obedient quiet worker.  Normal business don't do this, and normal Americans generally find foreigners interesting.  Nobody will care if you have a difficult accent, and nobody cares if you're white or not unless you happen to meet one of the unusual assholes that do.  The key is to act according to American culture and standards of behavior, instead of getting all mad that Americans don't do things the way people do in the old country.  Normal Americans will see you trying and most of them will be happy to help you out.  I helped out a foreign guy yesterday and I couldn't even understand what the fuck he was saying.

 

Example.  I was at work and an Asian lady was walking with her young child.  Suddenly, they stop, the kid drops his pants to his ankles and pisses right there in the gutter.  Don't do this kind of shit.  Don't put your hands on a woman and say 'oh, it's my culture' when she slaps your face.  I'm not joking, a guy got disciplined for that at my job.  Don't worry about racism.  Nobody cares, and nobody has to like you anyway.  Be cool and plenty of people will like you no matter what you are.  Americans like to be happy, so smile.  Treat people with kindness.  Do the right thing.  Treat people with respect.  Don't take offense at people's stupid comments.  If Americans you meet do stupid things, be better than they are.

 

Diversity visa.  These are 55,000 visas given out every year.  Currently the system favors Africa and Eastern Europe, but give it a try.

 

Military Service.  Grab your balls, ovaries or non-binary-gender-specific gonads and join up.  Military service is a pathway to citizenship.  You don't have to be a citizen to join.  You'll have a job and a place to live right from the start.  Check it out and see if you qualify, especially since you speak a foreign language, right?

 

 

Living in the USA.

 

 

Don't live in Los Angeles.  It's a complete shithole.  Just play Grand Theft Auto 5 instead.

 

Seriously, I used to travel to Los Angeles for work.  It's filled with gangs, crime, homeless people, drug addicts, all kinds of evil shit.  The traffic jams are horrible.  The rents are horribly expensive.  Living expenses are very high.  Every so often a riot burns the place down.  The whole Los Angeles beach baby surfer girl scene was destroyed decades ago.  Now there's a hepatitis outbreak because the dumbass politicians banned plastic bags and they make you pay for the paper bags, so now homeless people don't have plastic bags to shit in.  It wasn't always this way, but over many years it became a travesty.  I never want to go back.  If playing GTA5 doesn't do it for you, visit LA as a tourist then live somewhere else.

 

 

Don't live in San Francisco.  It's another shithole.  It's one of 3 most expensive places to live in the USA, worse than LA.  It's heartbreaking because it used to be a beautiful city.  They've been packing refugees in by the thousands.  Crime and filth is skyrocketing.  Many ex-criminals go to San Francisco when they are released from prison because the city government provides many services for homeless people.  As a result, there are thousands and thousands of homeless people in San Francisco, many of whom are totally insane (like one of my former best friends, who is now in prison for almost killing a woman in a fit of insane rage), many of whom are drug addicts, and many of whom piss and shit in the streets.  Don't live in the Bay Area around San Francisco either.  It's expensive and shitty unless you're rich.  The reason for this is because the population massively increased over the last 20 years, and there just isn't enough housing.  Even rich professionals can't find housing, and the illegal aliens and refugees make cheaper neighborhoods very rough sometimes.  Also, earthquakes and riots.  Crime is bad in the San Francisco Bay Area, but not as bad as Los Angeles.  Stay the fuck out of Oakland.

 

There are plenty of good places to live in the USA, but you only hear about SF, LA and NYC.  The USA has pretty bad social problems right now which have been growing for many years.  Big cities have big city problems, so live in the smaller cities.  Rents are cheaper, traffic isn't bad.  Just get a job first.

 

California isn't doing too well.  Jobs are leaving, taxes are high, crime is growing, and political bullshit is the worst since the 1970s.  But, if you can find a job in Northern California away from San Francisco, you will be ok.

 

Make sure you're earning about $3000 a month to be ok in most places outside of SF, LA, NYC, Boston, and expensive places like that.  The tragedy in the USA is that cheap affordable neighborhoods often have a lot of dangerous crime problems.  You want to pay to live in a good neighborhood.  Get two jobs if necessary.  Get a car, even if it's an old piece of shit.  American cities were built in a spread-out fashion, and you need to have a car.  Public transportation is a good idea in theory, but there are too many idiots, criminals, thugs, and insane homeless people to make using public transportation something to do often.

 

Medical care is a difficult question, because the system is a bizarre piece of shit.  It started in WW2 and has since become a monstrous scam leeching off the people.  If you have a job, get medical insurance through your employer.  If you're poor but still in the USA, see if there's Obamacare or Medicaid.  Remember that all hospitals by law must give you medical care if it is an emergency.  If it's not an emergency, like you accidentally cut your hand and you need stitches, go a private medical care business like Urgent Care and get it taken care of.  Often the same doctors who work in the hospitals work in these places too.  If something's wrong and you need a doctor's appointment, just go make one with any doctor.  It will cost about $100 unless you don't take my advice and you live in some expensive shithole like LA, SF or NYC.  Normal ordinary medications can be pretty cheap, so see what your choices are.  Dental work is pretty expensive, so get any major dental work done before you come to the USA.  

 

 

There are great opportunities in the USA, and you can have a great experience living here if you stay out of shitty places.  Just like in other countries where you need to stay away from the tourist areas, in the USA you have to stay away from the expensive shitholes that everybody goes to.