Olmech Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 Really enjoying latest version of this mod. Only thing I have noticed is that when this mod applies devious devices, it seems to bypass my preferences in Roggvir's Devious Device Manager. Dont know if this is intended or what. Only reason it is important to me is that I have been slowly making and replacing the original DD NifS with my own.
Imperfected Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 I appreciate that you're not only updating often, but actually updating the thread title to reflect the current version date. 1
Operand Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 By the way, as an idea - adding some equivalent for frustration potion for submissive PC. (I actually did it in a locally modified version and called that "Knowing place" for fun). Let it give some minor boost when "things happen" and minor penalty when they don't for too long.
Elsidia Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 8 hours ago, xyzxyz said: You can set it to 20 devices but I never saw more than 2 or 3. As more you set the devices for equip as slower work equip system and there will be situation when you need wait a minute before all equip up. But i think sometimes after long wait Fallout 4 forgot to equip all left devices by long time lag. Also devices equipping by random because some of devices not equipped because have conflict with already equipped devices. That means 20 devices in one time never happen. Also Rogg's manager slows down this process and make it do difficulty.
xyzxyz Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Elsidia said: As more you set the devices for equip as slower work equip system and there will be situation when you need wait a minute before all equip up. But i think sometimes after long wait Fallout 4 forgot to equip all left devices by long time lag. Also devices equipping by random because some of devices not equipped because have conflict with already equipped devices. That means 20 devices in one time never happen. Also Rogg's manager slows down this process and make it do difficulty. My fallout is not so slow that it would never equip any devices. And I don't use the Manager. Do I need it?
Elsidia Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: Do I need it? Rogg's manager for AAF Sexual Harassment is as necessary requirement. Without it dd equip not work. 1
Elsidia Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, xyzxyz said: My fallout is not so slow Random equip works slow because it's heavy script to do it.
xyzxyz Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Elsidia said: Rogg's manager for AAF Sexual Harassment is as necessary requirement. Without it dd equip not work. Yeah, I just tried that. Thank you.
XrMaster Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 I just wanted to ask if it was a bug that after the npc approaches you and you struggle or try to willpower yourself out that your character gets stuck. Â
cmdshep99 Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Hi Anyone knows how long is takes for NPC to approach you? I have been standing naked in diamond city for an hour now yet no NPC is approaching me, I tried setting the scan per hour to 10 but still nothin
Imperfected Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 The new Struggle mechanic gave me an idea for a category of encounters where your SPECIAL determines how likely you are to have a bad outcome. In pseudocode terms:  If (SPECIAL Encounter) is chosen:   Random 1-7    If (Random = 1) execute Strength Event      An approacher tries to wrestle the player into submission (the current Struggle event). Alternately, an Intimidation based event.     If (Random = 2) execute Perception Event      An approacher attempts to slip something into the player's water during a "friendly" conversation.      Random (Perception x 2) chance to notice immediately       If (Succeed)         Player Options: Confront, Pretend to Drink, Leave, Drink          If (Confront) is chosen            Random (Player Persuasion) chance NPC is scared off             If (Succeed)               Event ends.             If (Failed)               NPC is angry. Normal Plead/Resist/Intimidate/Submit options.          If (Pretend to Drink) is chosen            Random (Player Persuasion) chance NPC believes it             If (Succeed)               NPC will try to Flirt with the player.             If (Failed)               NPC is angry. Normal Plead/Resist/Intimidate/Submit options.          If (Leave) is chosen            Even ends.          If (Drink) is chosen            GoTo (Failed) below       If (Failed)          The player drinks some water, and has a chance to notice that it tastes strange.         Random (Perception x 3) chance to notice something amiss          If (Succeed)            Player Options: Confront, Pretend to Drink, Leave, Drink            Resolve as above, but at -20 Persuasion, Resist, and Intimidate penalty.          If (Failed)            Player drinks more, becomes drugged, and is raped by the NPC.      If (Random = 3) execute Endurance Event      An approacher tells the player she looks tired and asks if she needs someplace to lie down.      Random (NPC Persuasion - [(Endurance - 5) x 2]) chance of being tired       If (Success)         The player can say they aren't tired and end the encounter.       If (Failure)         The player accepts the offer to rest.         Random (Configured in MCM) chance the approacher takes advantage of the sleeping player          If (Molesting)            Random (Endurance%) chance to wake up.              If (Succeed)                Plead/Resist/Submit              If (Failed)                Player is raped.           If (Not Molesting)            Player rests. Encounter ends.       If (Random = 4) execute Charisma Event       An approacher angrily insists the player owes them for past behavior.       Player Options: Bribe, Charm, Refuse, Submit           If (Bribe) is chosen            The player attempts to pay off the approacher. 4 prices are given: 50 caps, 100 caps, 200 caps, and 400 caps.                If (50 caps) is chosen                 Random (1-100 + Charisma)                     If (Random > 75)                      NPC accepts. -50 caps, event ends.                     If (15 < Random <= 75)                      NPC is angry. Refuses bribe, enters Struggle.                     If (Random <= 15)                       NPC is furious, and will immediately rape the player.                If (100 caps) is chosen                 Random (1-100 + 25 + Charisma)                     If (Random > 75)                      NPC accepts. -100 caps, event ends.                     If (15 < Random <= 75)                      NPC is angry. Refuses bribe, enters Struggle.                If (200 caps) is chosen                 Random (1-100 + 50 + Charisma)                     If (Random > 75)                      NPC accepts. -200 caps, event ends.                     If (15 < Random <= 75)                      NPC is angry. Refuses bribe, enters Struggle.                If (400 caps) is chosen                The NPC accepts. -400 caps, event ends.           If (Charm) is chosen            The player attempts to talk their way out of trouble.            Random (Player Persuasion + [(Charisma - 5) x 2]) chance of talking the approacher down             If (Succeed)               NPC apologizes, event ends.             If (Failed)               NPC rapes the player.          If (Refuse) is chosen            The player immediately enters a Struggle with the NPC.          If (Submit) is choen            The player consents to sex with the NPC.     If (Random = 5) execute Intelligence Event       An approacher tries to trick the player ("I've been stung by a radscorpion and I need you to suck the poison out!").       Random (NPC Persuasion - [(Intelligence - 5) x 2)]) chance of being deceived        If (Succeed)          The player is deceived and consents to sex with the NPC.        If (Failed)           Player Options: Outsmart, Refuse, Submit             If (Outsmart) is chosen              The player pretends to be convinced, but changes the outcome. ("The only solution for that would be to cut your dick off before the poison spreads!")              Random (Player Persuasion + [(Intelligence - 5) x 2]) chance of convincing the NPC                If (Succeed)                  The NPC is frightened off. The event ends.                If (Failed)                  The NPC doesn't fall for it. Normal Plead/Resist/Submit/Intimidate options.             If (Refuse) is chosen              Random (MCM Configured) chance NPC backs down                 If (Succeed)                   NPC backs down. The event ends.                 If (Failed)                   NPC continues into normal persuasion loop.             If (Submit) is chosen              The player consents to sex.     If (Random = 6) execute Agility Event      An approacher bumps into the player. (Roll Agility check before first dialogue.)      Random (Agility x 2) chance to avoid stumbling       If (Succeed)         The NPC apologizes for being clumsy and the event ends.       If (Failed)         The NPC is angry the player tripped and bumped into them.         Player Options: Apologize, Intimidate, Slip Away, Submit          If (Apologize) is chosen            The NPC may or may not accept. Normal Plead/Resist/Submit options.          If (Intimidate) is chosen            Treat as a normal Intimidate attempt.          If (Slip Away) is chosen            The player tries to squirm loose from the NPC.            Random (1-100 + [(Agility - 5) x 2])             If (Random > 75)               The player slips out of the NPC's grasp. The event ends.             If (15 < Random <= 75)               The NPC is attempting to molest the player. Enter Struggle.             If (Random <= 15)               The player stumbles and hits their head, stunning themselves. The NPC rapes the player.          If (Submit) is chosen            The player consents to sex.      If (Random = 7) execute Luck Event      An approacher offers to gamble with the player. ("If you win, I'll give you 20 caps. If I win, you take your clothes off!")      Player Options: Agree, Refuse       If (Agree) is chosen         The player and NPC bet on a simple game.         Random (MCM Configurable) chance the NPC attempts to cheat          If (Succeed)            Random (50 - [(Perception - 5) x 2]) chance the player catches them              If (Succeed)               Player Options: Confront, Ignore, Cheat, Distract                 If (Confront) is chosen                  The player accuses the NPC of cheating and demands they forfeit their bet.                  Random (Player Persuasion) chance the NPC agrees                    If (Succeed)                      The NPC pays the player 20 caps. The event ends.                    If (Failed)                      Random (NPC Persuasion - [(Strength - 5) x 2]) chance the NPC tries to force themselves on the player                       If (Succeed)                         Standard Plead/Resist/Intimidate/Submit options.                       If (Failed)                         The NPC refuses to pay. The event ends.                 If (Cheat) is chosen                  The player attempts to cheat themselves to get the upper hand.                  Random (1-100 + Agility + Luck)                    If (Random > 75)                      The player cheats unnoticed, and wins the bet. GoTo ROUND 2.                    If (15 < Random <= 75)                      The NPC notices the player cheating and demands compensation.                      Player Options: Accuse, Agree, Refuse                       If (Accuse) is chosen                         GoTo (Confront) above                       If (Agree) is chosen                         The player loses the round and strips naked. GoTo ROUND 2.                       If (Refuse) is chosen                         Random (Player Persuasion) chance the NPC accepts this                          If (Succeed)                            The event ends.                          If (Failed)                            The NPC is angry and attempts to rape the player. Enter Struggle.                     If (Random <= 15)                       The player is caught cheating and the furious NPC immediately rapes them.                 If (Ignore) is chosen                  The player loses the round and strips naked. GoTo ROUND 2.                 If (Distract) is chosen                  The player attempts to use her wiles to distract the cheater and make him mess up.                  Random (Charisma x 2) chance of success                    If (Succeed)                      The NPC is distracted and botches his attempt to cheat, losing the round. GoTo ROUND 2.                    If (Failed)                      The NPC wins the round, and for the duration of the event is now 20% more likely to attempt to rape the player when the option is present. GoTo ROUND 2.  (ROUND 2 is largely identical, except the NPC will demand sexual favors in exchange if the player loses. Any outcome that could result in the player being molested or outright raped is made 25% more likely due to the fact they're already naked. Losing in round 2 results in a simple Submit/Refuse choice for paying the bet, with Refuse having an extremely high likelihood the NPC rapes or attempts to rape the player.)  These are just examples, you could obviously do something different or even have multiple events connected to each stat; for example you'd probably want a much simpler Luck event, I just wanted an example of how complex they could be.  I could also provide some sample dialogue, if you wanted it, though I figured pseudocode would probably be more up your alley.
justforcensor Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 8:52 AM, cmdshep99 said: Hi Anyone knows how long is takes for NPC to approach you? I have been standing naked in diamond city for an hour now yet no NPC is approaching me, I tried setting the scan per hour to 10 but still nothin if forsed aproach works, and you sit on bench in diamond city and wait 1 hour without no one aproaching try to reinstall mod via mcm menu, it helped in my case. also check your mod manager for old FP versions of harrasment it may be case.
Bad-Apple Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Hi there  I wanted to ask if it's normal that the player has no subtitles in approach situations. My char does move her lips as if she was saying something, but there are no subtitles. The approachers do have them.  Since I tried the mod the first time today, I'm not sure if this is a bug or normal or if I'm missing something.  PS: I have the Fuz-Ro-Do Silent Voice Mod, if this is important ^^Â
JB. Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Arastat said: Hi there  I wanted to ask if it's normal that the player has no subtitles in approach situations. My char does move her lips as if she was saying something, but there are no subtitles. The approachers do have them.  Since I tried the mod the first time today, I'm not sure if this is a bug or normal or if I'm missing something.  PS: I have the Fuz-Ro-Do Silent Voice Mod, if this is important ^^ Unfortunately, it is a small price to pay for using F4z. You can use "Extended Dialogue Interface" so you can read what exactly your character will respond to. I have it and I am used to it, it is a good solution
Undertower Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 This mod is fun! Kinda what makes Fallout feel a little bit more "realistic". Keep up the good work
Elsidia Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 9 hours ago, rarirasur said: bit more "realistic" Realistic? Maybe latest version is better but version as i play... Hmm... LoL. Starting game. Enter the Museum. At the same moment as i kill last raider - her corpse was still warm - Marcy goes me rape as Domina) She does it about 3 - 4 times while i search containers) Return to settlement to try complete quest to build beds. No Marcy don't need beds Marcy needs dominated)
justforcensor Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/8/2020 at 11:00 AM, Elsidia said: Realistic? Maybe latest version is better but version as i play... Hmm... LoL. Starting game. Enter the Museum. At the same moment as i kill last raider - her corpse was still warm - Marcy goes me rape as Domina) She does it about 3 - 4 times while i search containers) Return to settlement to try complete quest to build beds. No Marcy don't need beds Marcy needs dominated) Well, That's explains her vanila attitude) this mode just set free her inner desires))))))
Krazyone Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Feature request... Devious Device MCM settings for equipping.  Light...      Only kinky clothing, Collars, Boots, Gloves, Corsets, Piercings. Only. Medium...   Add a little more light restrictive stuff. Hardcore...  The full line up of gear.    If you don't like the ideas, or it's just too much work. Then just ignore this post...Â
MichellChan Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 I don't use real handcuffs so I get the following error message [05/11/2020 - 03:59:43AM] error: Cannot check worn items against a None keyword stack: [ (00000014)].Actor.WornHasKeyword() - "<native>" Line ? [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.IsPlayerWearingDD() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 3375 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.GetVulnerabilityFromDD() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 3005 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.isDeviousApproachRolled() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 850 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.OnTick() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 516 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.OnTimerGameTime() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 425 [05/11/2020 - 03:59:43AM] error: Cannot check worn items against a None keyword stack: [ (00000014)].Actor.WornHasKeyword() - "<native>" Line ? [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.IsPlayerWearingDD() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 3375 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.GetVulnerabilityFromDD() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 3005 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.isDeviousApproachRolled() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 850 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.OnTick() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 516 [FPSH_Player (24000F99)].FPSH:FPSH_Main.OnTimerGameTime() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\FPSH\FPSH_Main.psc" Line 425 The problem is that PlayerREF.WornHasKeyword( KEYWORD ) can't take "None" as a keyword.  The solution is to rewrite the "IsPlayerWearingDD()" function. One solution is this: bool Function IsPlayerWearingDD() If DD_kw_InventoryItem != None && RH_RestraintTypeCollar != None && RH_RestraintTypeHandcuffs != None Return PlayerREF.WornHasKeyword(DD_kw_InventoryItem) || PlayerREF.WornHasKeyword(RH_RestraintTypeCollar) || PlayerREF.WornHasKeyword(RH_RestraintTypeHandcuffs) ElseIf DD_kw_InventoryItem != None return PlayerREF.WornHasKeyword(DD_kw_InventoryItem) ElseIf RH_RestraintTypeCollar != None && RH_RestraintTypeHandcuffs != None Return PlayerREF.WornHasKeyword(RH_RestraintTypeCollar) || PlayerREF.WornHasKeyword(RH_RestraintTypeHandcuffs) EndIf EndFunction use it, abuse it, the code is yours to use.  Regards  OokamiChan
MichellChan Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 A second error that I have reported before but it have not been fixed yet. I did find the bug in version 1.5.0 and I have to fix it eavry time you release a new version.  Error description: using willpower to remove DD chastity bra. Respnce: DD chastity bra is not equipt! So I stand there in a catch 22 episode. Solution: Correct the address for chastity bra. from 0x09014DE8 to 0x09015DE8 Function InitializeDDKeywords() ... DD_kw_ItemType_ChastityBra = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x09015DE8, "Devious Devices.esm") as Keyword ... EndFunction Regards  OokamiChan
twistedtrebla Posted May 12, 2020 Author Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 7:49 PM, MichellChan said: A second error that I have reported before but it have not been fixed yet. I did find the bug in version 1.5.0 and I have to fix it eavry time you release a new version.  Error description: using willpower to remove DD chastity bra. Respnce: DD chastity bra is not equipt! So I stand there in a catch 22 episode. Solution: Correct the address for chastity bra. from 0x09014DE8 to 0x09015DE8 Function InitializeDDKeywords() ... DD_kw_ItemType_ChastityBra = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x09015DE8, "Devious Devices.esm") as Keyword ... EndFunction Regards  OokamiChan Escaping from DD using willpower is from Sex Attributes mod, not this.  and im pretty sure that bug has been fixed few versions ago in that mod.  EDIT: Looks like I fixed this bug in Harassment mod (this), but not Sex Attributes. So this is a bug in Attributes. In any case, thanks for brining it up Â
kziitd Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Can you make the DD part of Sex Approaches and Flirt Approaches comply with the settings of Roggvir'sDDItemsManager and the use of Realhandcuffs, as in Blackmail Approaches Now Sex Approaches and Flirt Approaches don't follow Roggvir'sDDItemsManager custom choices, they're random. For example, the first thing to be equipped is always one of the collars. Realhandcuffs are perfectly applied in  Blackmail Approaches. Can  be applied in Sex Approaches and Flirt Approaches as well? 1
Raiderdry Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 I tried forcing a naked approach with Piper and no dialogue appeared after the initial 2 text boxes. Piper never asks for anything I just get options and then once I submite Piper just walks away and Im frozen and have to use the debug to play the game
badboy64 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Is there any way you could add save load and load options so you don't have to keep on setting it each time with the start of a new game?
VaunWolfe Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Not sure if I did something wrong. I have the devious settings on low but the filters and the sex people just decide to grope my character and lock her up in devices. I have the device removal on 100% but they dont take them off.
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