[AAF] Sexual Harassment (12/20/2024)

[DeathToHumankind]

Thanks for the quick fix of biped slots bug. By the way i also do have jittery bug amatharra above me mentioned. 

[Slorm]

Many thanks for the updated naked check, it works a treat ?

[Sobachonuki]

Just one suggestion about butt slap. When somebody slap butt of your pc, her self-esteem decreases. It is more realistic that if your pc submissive person than self-esteeme not decrease. And if you achive perk "Slut" your self-esteem must even slightly encrease if somebody slap your butt. Something like : Hey! I know this butt and it's perfect! So if your pc is "Slut" and somebody slap her that means: This woman is attractive and reachable and everybody knows it. With every slap she realize that she's more popular that make her happier and should encrease her self-esteem.

[Mistah F]

21 minutes ago, Sobachonuki said:

Just one suggestion about butt slap. When somebody slap butt of your pc, her self-esteem decreases. It is more realistic that if your pc submissive person than self-esteeme not decrease. And if you achive perk "Slut" your self-esteem must even slightly encrease if somebody slap your butt. Something like : Hey! I know this butt and it's perfect! So if your pc is "Slut" and somebody slap her that means: This woman is attractive and reachable and everybody knows it. With every slap she realize that she's more popular that make her happier and should encrease her self-esteem.

Unless being a slut is a maladaptive coping mechanism for trauma or other psychological problems. In that case, under the surface, her self-esteem is decreasing.

[Mistah F]

I was mostly happily using this mod for a while, despite the occasional jarring incident where NPC's like the Diamond City mayor or the first guy I talk to in Tenpines Bluff eagerly approaching me for a massage or hypnosis (legitimate or otherwise) and then immediately returning to caution skepticism of a stranger.

But then this happened with Danse, despite having The Brotherhood and Followers disabled for approaches (as they are by default). And as if that wasn't bad enough, he slapped my ass while we were BOTH wearing power armor.

I disabled mod off after that. If you could fix the allowances I might try it again. If you added a new allowance for named/quest giving NPC's then I would definitely try it again.

[Sobachonuki]

Thank you for your reply Mistah F. After your analysis of the problem, I'm even afraid to argue.

[Slorm]

1 hour ago, Mistah F said:

I was mostly happily using this mod for a while, despite the occasional jarring incident where NPC's like the Diamond City mayor or the first guy I talk to in Tenpines Bluff eagerly approaching me for a massage or hypnosis (legitimate or otherwise) and then immediately returning to caution skepticism of a stranger.

But then this happened with Danse, despite having The Brotherhood and Followers disabled for approaches (as they are by default). And as if that wasn't bad enough, he slapped my ass while we were BOTH wearing power armor.

I disabled mod off after that. If you could fix the allowances I might try it again. If you added a new allowance for named/quest giving NPC's then I would definitely try it again.

 

You need to specifically exclude some named NPC's as they tend not to follow the generic exclusion rules (Danse and Rhys are good examples). I'd also recommend excluding Drummer Boy at the Railroad as he's heavily scripted, I don't think I've had issues with any of the others.

 

Highlight each one you want want to exclude in the console and enter setav fpsh_noteligible 1

Edited February 2, 2023 by Slorm

[deathmorph]

5 hours ago, Slorm said:

Many thanks for the updated naked check, it works a treat ?

I still don't quite understand the thing about the slots for the naked check.
Slider 1 or Slider 2 AND Slider 3 and Slider 4. So far so good. But if I want to have the setting that the actress counts as naked if either slot 11 (top) or slot 10 (panties) is not dressed, then, as far as I understand it, I would have to assign these two settings to slider 1 and slider 2. Or in sliders 3 and 4. But not in sliders 1 and 3.
But if I assign slots 10 and 11 to sliders 1 and 2, then the naked warning appears.

[Slorm]

6 minutes ago, deathmorph said:

I still don't quite understand the thing about the slots for the naked check.
Slider 1 or Slider 2 AND Slider 3 and Slider 4. So far so good. But if I want to have the setting that the actress counts as naked if either slot 11 (top) or slot 10 (panties) is not dressed, then, as far as I understand it, I would have to assign these two settings to slider 1 and slider 2. Or in sliders 3 and 4. But not in sliders 1 and 3.
But if I assign slots 10 and 11 to sliders 1 and 2, then the naked warning appears.

 

Assuming the following:

Top

slot 1

slot 2

 

Groin

slot 3

slot 4

 

you would assign as follows:

 

slot 1: 11

slot 2: -1

slot 3: 10

slot 4: -1

 

EDIT: If you also want to add items that cover the body (index 3) then you would use

 

1: 11

2: 3

3: 10

4: 3

Edited February 2, 2023 by Slorm

[deathmorph]

1 minute ago, Slorm said:

you would assign as follows:

 

slot 1: 11

slot 2: -1

slot 3: 10

slot 4: -1

 

Yes, that's how I set it up now. However, I had interpreted the description in the MCM in such a way that the AND rule then applies, as it was before.
But if the OR rule works with this setting, then it's good.

[Slorm]

Just now, deathmorph said:

 

Yes, that's how I set it up now. However, I had interpreted the description in the MCM in such a way that the AND rule then applies, as it was before.
But if the OR rule works with this setting, then it's good.

 

The first example is OR the second is AND (hence 3 appearing in slot 2 and slot 4)

[deathmorph]

38 minutes ago, Slorm said:

The first example is OR the second is AND (hence 3 appearing in slot 2 and slot 4)

 

Okay thanks. I think I got it now. The description misled me.

 

PS: It works. I assigned index 10 to slider 1 and index 11 to slider 3. If the actress doesn't wear a top now, then the naked message comes. Very nice.

Edited February 2, 2023 by deathmorph

[twistedtrebla]

4 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

Yes, that's how I set it up now. However, I had interpreted the description in the MCM in such a way that the AND rule then applies, as it was before.
But if the OR rule works with this setting, then it's good.

Ah yes. I forgot that logically the AND takes priority over OR.

 

What the MCM description should've said is:

(Top 1 covered OR top 2 covered) AND (bottom 1 covered OR bottom 2 covered).

I essentially left out the parenthesis 

[Mistah F]

6 hours ago, Slorm said:

 

You need to specifically exclude some named NPC's as they tend not to follow the generic exclusion rules (Danse and Rhys are good examples). I'd also recommend excluding Drummer Boy at the Railroad as he's heavily scripted, I don't think I've had issues with any of the others.

 

Highlight each one you want want to exclude in the console and enter setav fpsh_noteligible 1

In that case, I'll wait until someone mods all the appropriate exclusions into this mod to try it again.

[UsernameTaken666]

29 minutes ago, Mistah F said:

In that case, I'll wait until someone mods all the appropriate exclusions into this mod to try it again.

What I do, fwiw, is use the hotkey to disable the mod if I'm doing quests or legit exploring. If I'm just messing around, then I'll turn it back on. You could try that, of course, it's just a thought / suggestion. If you've tried or done that, please disregard.

[DrDieGore]

I really enjoy this mod. But as others have said. There are some NPCs that ignore the MCM settings and still approach the PC. But even with Danse randomly assaulting me during quests its still quite enjoyable. Can't wait for more updates, and to see the direction this MOD is going.

Thanks for all the hard work.

[Karna5]

I don't understand the slots thing either as I'm used to slots going up into the 50s, and the slider doesn't allow assignment of slot numbers in the 30s and 40s. Is there a table we can reference to see what Sexual Harassment mod considers slot numbers for clothing? It seems to be something different than what FO4Edit uses.

 

Also, ever since this last change, even when I'm wearing clothing with slot 33 (I use mashup;s, not separate pieces), Sexual Harassment keeps considering me to be nude. So I finally had to disable Sexual Approaches because it was overriding all other approaches thinking I'm nude when I'm not.

 

It would be nice to keep using this mod in a way where wearing clothing on slot 33 is considered dressed so we can get the other approaches this mod has

 

And it would be nice if maybe the MCM page explained what the slots actually mean.

 

Either way, I love this mod. Thanks a ton

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by Karna5

[twistedtrebla]

4 hours ago, Karna5 said:

I don't understand the slots thing either as I'm used to slots going up into the 50s, and the slider doesn't allow assignment of slot numbers in the 30s and 40s. Is there a table we can reference to see what Sexual Harassment mod considers slot numbers for clothing? It seems to be something different than what FO4Edit uses.

 

Also, ever since this last change, even when I'm wearing clothing with slot 33 (I use mashup;s, not separate pieces), Sexual Harassment keeps considering me to be nude. So I finally had to disable Sexual Approaches because it was overriding all other approaches thinking I'm nude when I'm not.

 

It would be nice to keep using this mod in a way where wearing clothing on slot 33 is considered dressed so we can get the other approaches this mod has

 

And it would be nice if maybe the MCM page explained what the slots actually mean.

 

Either way, I love this mod. Thanks a ton

 

 

Check the FAQ in the first page.

[terrordrone]

Hey, uh can I have a suggestion ? 

I think having the option for player to pee out all the cum from stored in her belly would be cool ( cuz' this mod already has the body morph feature base on cum accumulated right ?) 

While doing so, NPC may make comment about player.

After doing so, NPC may harass player base on seeing her doing that.

What do you think ?

[vaultbait]

12 hours ago, Karna5 said:

I don't understand the slots thing either as I'm used to slots going up into the 50s, and the slider doesn't allow assignment of slot numbers in the 30s and 40s. Is there a table we can reference to see what Sexual Harassment mod considers slot numbers for clothing? It seems to be something different than what FO4Edit uses.

 

There tends to be a lot of confusion around this because the slot indices exposed by Papyrus are not the same as the biped slot numbers shown in the FO4CK or FO4Edit (they're off by 30): https://www.creationkit.com/fallout4/index.php?title=Biped_Slots

[Karna5]

10 hours ago, twistedtrebla said:

 

Check the FAQ in the first page.

I actually did check it, more than three times, and couldn't find anything explaining the Slot system you use. However, a couple of posts down vaultbait explained it.

 

As far as I can tell, then, it is no longer possible to use your Sex Approach system because your mod no longer supports Unified Clothing Overhaul (all clothing uses only slot 33) nor Mashups (all clothing use only slot 33).  As I use both UCO and Mashups exclusively, your mod now always thinks I'm nude unless I want to artificially set something like French Nails mean wearing a top (whichc would then exclude me from using armless and limbless outfits).

 

I still love your mod, twistedtrebla, but your main feature is no longer viable. Oh well Thanks

 

Hmm, unless, I wonder if I can set slot 33 (3 in your mod) to both top and bottom. I'll try that.

 

[Loverlab had forum lag, so sorry if this posted more than once. I tried to delete the duplicates]

 

Edit: Okay, setting 3 (slot 33) to both bottom and top armor slots seems to allow Sexual Harassment mod to use the old system where wearing slot 33 is considered being clothed. Thanks

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by Karna5

[Slorm]

37 minutes ago, Karna5 said:

Hmm, unless, I wonder if I can set slot 33 (3 in your mod) to both top and bottom. I'll try that.

 

 

 

Yes, you must set it for top and bottom as they now have an AND relationship

 

I've given an example how it works on the previous page

Edited February 4, 2023 by Slorm

[Karna5]

57 minutes ago, Slorm said:

 

Yes, you must set it for top and bottom as they now have an AND relationship

 

I've given an example how it works on the previous page

I had seen that post, but because it did not explain the slot system (in which Sexual Harassment slots are normal slot number minus 30) it didn't help.

 

But now that I know how Sexual Harassment reads slot numbers I was able to progress to figuring out the GUI itself

[vaultbait]

15 minutes ago, Karna5 said:

normal slot number minus 30

 

You can thank Bethesda for this amazingly confusing situation. Rather than be consistent with the numbers everything uses to refer to the slots, they do one thing in plugins and another in scripts. It's left up to mod authors to decide which set of numbers they want to present to the user in menus/config/UI, so half the time you'll see one and half the time the other because there's no one standard.

[Tanglin]

If I don't respond to the master of the shock collar for 7 days, I get a new master, correct? The current one is a settler at Somerville Place. So, to get one who's closer to the centre of the map, I should ignore his buzzes for 7 days and hang around Diamond City or Goodneighbor?