[AAF] Sex Attributes - Framework (6/26/2024)

[vaultbait]

On 5/15/2024 at 7:20 AM, poplan said:

The HUD plugin is from 2018, does it work with the current version from 2023? (v2.7.3)

 

Not well, but I think some people do still use it. The author said a while back that they don't have the ability to maintain it though, and after creating a HUDFramework based abomination of my own I can easily see why they've washed their hands of it.

[starfall17]

such a large mod and there are no male voice moans? Only female orgasm? Do you know how weird it sounds when a male orgasms in female voice 🤣 ?

[vaultbait]

2 hours ago, starfall17 said:

such a large mod and there are no male voice moans? Only female orgasm? Do you know how weird it sounds when a male orgasms in female voice 🤣 ?

 

About as weird as using a mod designed primarily (or perhaps exclusively) for women when you're playing as a man.

[veebars]

Just an FYI for anyone unhappy with how loud - the volume of - the global sounds added by this are relative to the rest of their game. To reduce the volume I set the static attenuation to +20 for each of the sound descriptors in this mod. I used an ESPFE with overrides and that works just fine. 20 seems to line up well with the rest of my game at least. Just in case it helps anyone else--at least for me, this was not the mod I was expecting to find the culprits.

[Slorm]

I ran into a very strange issue with inflated self esteem gains, so unless I'm being a bit dim the pc is getting more self esteem then they should.

 

I first noticed this when using Provocative Perks Dubcon set at arousal at zero to avoid Trauma and then saw that on occasions I was gaining far more self esteem than I should. I have self esteem gain set at the default of 150 XP for 1 SE.

 

I was in Back Street Apparel with an SE of 5 while doing a clear the raiders side mission with 2 raider to kill, my XP at that point was 29014.68, I then kill the 2 raiders to complete the mission and my XP goes up to 29270.12 however now had an SE of 26.

 

I then did some further testing and this time the result was an SE of 15 and that seem to be a consistent result in around 5 further tests.

 

In case it was other mods I deactivated Commonwealth Captives, Provocative Perks and my own mod to slow down levelling a bit (it just doubles the value of iXPBase and iXPBumpBase), I can't think of anything else that would interfere but still the same SE jumps from 5 to 15.

 

I've attached a log but it doesn't really help, except to show the increases but without how they are calculated. According to my calculations the mission completion gives 155 XP plus whatever it is for 2 raiders so at most I should have got 2 SE

 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited May 22, 2024 by Slorm

[spicydoritos]

9 minutes ago, Slorm said:

Bug Report - Major though not game breaking

 

I ran into a very strange issue with inflated self esteem gains, so unless I'm being a bit dim the pc is getting more self esteem then they should.

 

I first noticed this when using Provocative Perks Dubcon set at arousal at zero to avoid Trauma and then saw that on occasions I was gaining far more self esteem than I should. I have self esteem gain set at the default of 150 XP for 1 SE.

 

I was in Back Street Apparel with an SE of 5 while doing a clear the raiders side mission with 2 raider to kill, my XP at that point was 29014.68, I then kill the 2 raiders to complete the mission and my XP goes up to 29270.12 however now had an SE of 26.

 

I then did some further testing and this time the result was an SE of 15 and that seem to be a consistent result in around 5 further tests.

 

In case it was other mods I deactivated Commonwealth Captives, Provocative Perks and my own mod to slow down levelling a bit (it just doubles the value of iXPBase and iXPBumpBase), I can't think of anything else that would interfere but still the same SE jumps from 5 to 15.

 

I've attached a log but it doesn't really help, except to show the increases but without how they are calculated. According to my calculations the mission completion gives 155 XP plus whatever it is for 2 raiders so at most I should have got 2 SE

 

Papyrus.0.log 11.15 kB · 0 downloads

 

Did you have a previous Violate event with those raiders?  Because Violate has a setting to restore some self esteem if you kill a former assailant.

[khenti]

Is there a way to export your current stats or a convenientish way to edit them? I am working my way through Commonwealth Slavers but I had to disable a number of my favorite mods to get it working correctly(ish) so what I would like to do is start a new with the "same" character but keep her attributes from this mod for continuity's sake. 

Is that at all possible?

[Slorm]

9 hours ago, khenti said:

Is there a way to export your current stats or a convenientish way to edit them? I am working my way through Commonwealth Slavers but I had to disable a number of my favorite mods to get it working correctly(ish) so what I would like to do is start a new with the "same" character but keep her attributes from this mod for continuity's sake. 

Is that at all possible?

 

I think this may what you are looking for, it allows you to keep MCM mod settings from game to new game (plus a few other useful functions), though not anything that has changed from what was originally set and changed by in-game evolving effects (as pointed out by @vaultbait below)

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/56195

Edited May 22, 2024 by Slorm

[Slorm]

18 hours ago, spicydoritos said:

 

Did you have a previous Violate event with those raiders?  Because Violate has a setting to restore some self esteem if you kill a former assailant.

 

THANK YOU 😃 though it has thrown up a different issue.

 

For some odd reason although I have SE loss per rape set to 10 it only seems to take 4 per rape. I had Violate set at it's default 50% so it was correctly applying 5 back whereas I had assumed (incorrectly) it would add 2 per raider back at most.

 

I actually prefer the 4 SE reduction (10 seems a bit high to me), so I'll either adjust Violate in the MCM or maybe edit the SA MCM to increase the range of the SE loss. I'll need to experiment a bit and also try to find what is interfering with the SE reduction in the place

 

Edit:

 

OCD Alert 🙂

 

Did some further testing measuring fpa_value_selfesteem on my seed starter game and the SE reduction is 7.20, and 3.60 on current my game which makes sense as there's -50% for slut sex addiction.

 

I can't see where the missing 2.80 is, as fpa_setting_selfesteembaserape is definitely set to 10, it's not Orientation as it stays the same for Dom or Neutral. At least it makes sense now as Violate is using fpa_setting_selfesteembaserape itself rather than the adjusted figure and it's not worth spending any more time tracking down the 2.80 difference

Edited May 22, 2024 by Slorm

[vaultbait]

11 hours ago, khenti said:

Is there a way to export your current stats or a convenientish way to edit them? I am working my way through Commonwealth Slavers but I had to disable a number of my favorite mods to get it working correctly(ish) so what I would like to do is start a new with the "same" character but keep her attributes from this mod for continuity's sake. 

Is that at all possible?

 

Things like your current disposition, self esteem, willpower, blackmail photo counts, arousal, hypnosis, reputation, or sex addiction are stored in individual global variables, while other effects like bimbo serum, hypnotic vulnerabilities, slut status, etc are applied as perks. There is no utility I'm aware of to export those, though you might be able to use a tool like Resaver to inspect your save file and find them, or you could create a list of them by opening the mod's plugin with FO4Edit/zEdit and manually record the values reported for each one by using the console in-game. Similarly, you could set/apply most of that with te console if you know what values you want, but it would be quite a pain.

 

As an aside, is CS really incompatible with SA? I thought people often used them together, and CS even included some integration for SA (like orgasm denial)? Edit: Oh! Sorry, I misread what you said. You're looking for a way to carry over SA stats from a previous save into a fresh playthrough... so yeah, the solutions I posted above are how I'd go about that if I really wanted it. But I wouldn't, personally, because it doesn't take that long in-game to get your stats back to the same state anyway.

Edited May 22, 2024 by vaultbait

[izzyknows]

14 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

As an aside, is CS really incompatible with SA? I thought people often used them together, and CS even included some integration for SA (like orgasm denial)?

It's very compatible.

 

[Slorm]

22 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

As an aside, is CS really incompatible with SA? I thought people often used them together, and CS even included some integration for SA (like orgasm denial)?

 

I've never had a problem with CS and SA, it's SH that's a good idea to turn off for the duration of CS to avoid unexpected effects

[Dont Tell My Parents]

How do I get my self esteem up? I thought it was just by levelling but I'm still on like 47 and I've gone up 10 levels so I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I changed all the settings so I should be getting it back faster. 

 

Also can someone please explain how the dominance scale works? I was extremely dominant at the start then I was down to 0 and I thought that meant I was submissive but I dunno cause after some settlement building I'm back to extremely dominant so would love some guidance if possible please?

[izzyknows]

6 hours ago, Dont Tell My Parents said:

How do I get my self esteem up? I thought it was just by levelling but I'm still on like 47 and I've gone up 10 levels so I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I changed all the settings so I should be getting it back faster. 

 

Also can someone please explain how the dominance scale works? I was extremely dominant at the start then I was down to 0 and I thought that meant I was submissive but I dunno cause after some settlement building I'm back to extremely dominant so would love some guidance if possible please?

The guidance is on the OP under ~MAIN FEATURES

[Bizarro]

Any chance to get FallUI HUD compatibility for the attribute widgets or anything that would allow a better representation for character arousal? Heartbeat, short breathing, little widget (without having to use HUD Framework)... anything would be much appreciated.

Edited May 23, 2024 by Bizarro

[Martok73]

Been away for awhile, just updated the mod a few days ago, and I noticed something that wasn't there in the version I had before. Cumflation. I've always had the belly morphs, but now I have this thing and I looked thru the changelogs and found "Cumflation now gives debuff to player, depending on how bad it is:", my question is how the hell do I turn that off? I don't mind the belly getting bigger, but having a debuff from it doesn't make sense at all, and I do not want that, so how do I turn off the debuff from it?

[izzyknows]

2 hours ago, Martok73 said:

Been away for awhile, just updated the mod a few days ago, and I noticed something that wasn't there in the version I had before. Cumflation. I've always had the belly morphs, but now I have this thing and I looked thru the changelogs and found "Cumflation now gives debuff to player, depending on how bad it is:", my question is how the hell do I turn that off? I don't mind the belly getting bigger, but having a debuff from it doesn't make sense at all, and I do not want that, so how do I turn off the debuff from it?

Under MCM>Sexual Harassment>Body Morphs>Enable Morph Buffs/Debuffs

IF I remember right.

[Dont Tell My Parents]

On 5/23/2024 at 8:00 PM, izzyknows said:

The guidance is on the OP under ~MAIN FEATURES

 

I did read that, just to be clear experience is experience points not just quests etc?

[izzyknows]

5 minutes ago, Dont Tell My Parents said:

 

I did read that, just to be clear experience is experience points not just quests etc?

Yes, any XP counts.

You can adjust how much is needed in the MCM settings. Default is around 350 or so. There's also a setting for Submissive & Dominance, I turned the dominance one off and it helps to keep my PC on the submissive side a bit easier.

SA & SH have a LOT of settings to play with. Once I got mine figured out & set how I prefer, I saved them with MCM Settings Manager.

[Martok73]

18 hours ago, izzyknows said:

Under MCM>Sexual Harassment>Body Morphs>Enable Morph Buffs/Debuffs

IF I remember right.

I don't have Sexual Harassment, so I wouldn't have that MCM. I have Sex Attributes and was using a much older version and when I updated Sex Attributes to the "current" version is when I noticed the debuff Cumflation when my characters belly got bigger. I haven't seen a setting in that MCM to turn off only morph debuffs. There is a setting to turn off all debuffs, but unless I'm blind I can't find one to turn off just the belly morph debuffs which is what I would like to do.

[Dont Tell My Parents]

On 5/24/2024 at 11:32 PM, izzyknows said:

Yes, any XP counts.

You can adjust how much is needed in the MCM settings. Default is around 350 or so. There's also a setting for Submissive & Dominance, I turned the dominance one off and it helps to keep my PC on the submissive side a bit easier.

SA & SH have a LOT of settings to play with. Once I got mine figured out & set how I prefer, I saved them with MCM Settings Manager.

 

Thanks! I think I was getting a couple of them mixed up, now I get it better it makes more sense. Definitely LOVE the settings manager, new games are BRUTAL without it ha ha.

 

I have to look into depuffing the dominance and submissiveness from charisma/persuade rolls outside of AAF though and it's too OP. I don't want to win every argument because I'm dominant, or lose it because I'm submissive, I would like that to play a small role in the choices but not quite as much as it does by default. I have been toying with the settings but not found the right balance yet, it's hard to know if I have because my character is so dominant anyway. 

 

In fact if I could I'd unlock it completely and still allow submissives to say no and struggle as well, saying yes all the time takes the thrill out, especially for people who are brats and find fun in being defiant or made to be submissive over just submitting you know? If that were the case it would also make the debuff make sense because you'd say no or what ever and the NPC would effectively not be convinced your no meant no.

[valkimedes]

On 9/7/2023 at 8:18 AM, vaultbait said:

 

You can get PTSD from multiple factions, I do it all the time. The process is the same for all of them, yes, regardless of whether it's your first PTSD or a subsequent one.

Can you add PTSD using Console? 
Can you share this mod console comands?

[vaultbait]

On 6/4/2024 at 5:48 PM, valkimedes said:

Can you add PTSD using Console? 
Can you share this mod console comands?

 

The cleanest way is to reduce your spirit to 1 with this command:

 

set fpa_value_spirit to 1

 

Then immediately get yourself raped by the desired class of NPC and you should get a pop-up messagebox about your new PTSD.

[Kashirinzan]

Are perks like "Slut" permanent or can they go away over time if you don't engage in any sex?

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, Kashirinzan said:

Are perks like "Slut" permanent or can they go away over time if you don't engage in any sex?

 

Slut status goes away over time if you abstain from sex. I think your sex level has to drop below 30 for it to clear.