Deadly Pleasures

[rhino_4]

So basically, this "mod" is an advertisement posing as a real mod and attempts to get you to buy animations from patreon. Kinda shady.

[Delzaron]

13 minutes ago, rhino_4 said:

So basically, this "mod" is an advertisement posing as a real mod and attempts to get you to buy animations from patreon. Kinda shady.

An advertissement... how funny... ?

 

Do you really think this mod is just an add with all the content inside ?

 

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, Delzaron said:

That's pretty sad to read that...

No. That's sad is that you have knee-jerk mischaracterised an attempt to help you communicate clearly, and enable your users to have a working mod as being related to whether you try and make money or not.

 

The thing I'm talking about here is that you totally failed to explain what pack DP works with.

 

 

I'm not judging one way or another whether paywalling is good or bad. 

But if Komotor has FOUR different packs, that are current versions, and about a dozen older versions ...

 

You need to make explicit which packs work with DP, otherwise how can we know what pack to install?

 

A forum post that was an aside was the first time I've seen a clear indication, and even that had no version number.

 

We cannot "do our own researches" when there is nothing to research. The source of information on what works with DP is Delzaron.

 

There is NO OTHER SOURCE for this information. You are the source Delzaron. It's you. Just you.

Nobody else knows exactly what pack you were using when you made this! Or what animations you use out of the pack.

As I have already pointed out, reading through the entire support forum won't reveal that information, and that shouldn't be necessary.

It's a simple thing to properly describe a mod's dependencies as best you can.

In this case, Komotor Animations is just ... not enough info.

 

 

Let me make this 100% clear...

I'm not bothered if Kom paywalls his stuff. I never attacked him for it.

He also has a free pack, and it does get updates. I'm happy with that.

 

I never attacked Delzaron or Kom for it.

If Delzaron put DP behind a paywall, that's his business. He made it. He's allowed to charge for it. Most countries have laws that say so.

He's completely entitled to do it. Lots of people do it. Charging people money for work done has been OK since money was invented.

 

 

However, Komotor certainly could put a big fat sticky post on his site about DP, and what pack you need there. It might even lead to him getting more sign-ups. I don't know. I can't see how it would do any harm though.

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

No. The only problem here is that you totally failed to explain what pack DP works with.

 

I'm not judging one way or another whether paywalling is good or bad. But if Komotor has FOUR different packs, that are current versions, and about a dozen older versions ...

 

You need to make clear which packs work with DP, otherwise how can we know what pack to install?

 

A forum post that was an aside was the first time I've seen a clear indication, and even that had no version number.

 

 

Let me make this 100% clear. I don't care if Kom paywalls his stuff. He's completely entitled to do that. Lots of people do it.

He also has a free pack, and it does get updates. I'm happy with that.

 

Komotor's site has nothing to do with this confusion, it's entirely a complaint about lack of info on the front page of DP.

DP do not necessary need my private packs to work.
If the animations are missing it skip the animations, but you can still play the mod.

[Lupine00]

54 minutes ago, rhino_4 said:

So basically, this "mod" is an advertisement posing as a real mod and attempts to get you to buy animations from patreon. Kinda shady.

There are some people posting things like that on LL, but Delzaron isn't, and DP isn't that.

 

However I may berate him over his sketchy ability to explain what you need to do to make his mod work, or over the many bugs in his mods, Delzaron is really passionate about making mods and telling stories, and has given a huge amount to the community for nothing.

 

Even if people did buy Kom's pack to play DP, they'd hardly be buying a f**king private jet with their ill-gotten gains. If Delzaron even sees a cent, and I have no idea if he does.

 

Given the hours that go into Skyrim mods, they'd have to sell a lot of packs to make even minimum wage.

 

 

[Lupine00]

19 minutes ago, komotor said:

DP do not necessary need my private packs to work.
If the animations are missing it skip the animations, but you can still play the mod.

That is accurate.

 

But...

Spoiler

 

This all started months ago, when I was confused why certain scenes failed to play, and Delzaron couldn't figure out why.

So, I asked for the animation names so I could test that they played in matchmaker.

But he didn't have the names.

 

So, I spent hours screwing around with my SexLab install, SLAL, and FNIS, trying to track down some possible problem. Uninstalling animations from other sources to drop my count, stuff like that.

 

I couldn't seem to fix DP, so eventually I gave up.

 

Then, just recently, I wanted updated KomAnims for another mod, and it ... once again ... took me an unreasonable amount of time to figure out where to get the free pack update. This is a problem with google though, for whatever reason it brings up bad results when I search for this information, as does the LL site search. I eventually located the free pack via the link on Kom's site.

 

This brought me back to this forum, where I eventually gleaned the information that DP needs the tier 2 patreon pack.

 

 

 

If Del had mentioned this a few months back, it could have saved me a lot of trouble.

Surely, other users had similar problems?

 

 

If the main page of DP had a big warning, "If animations don't play, you probably have the wrong Kom pack, you need the Tier 2 patreon pack for all animations to play." Then people wouldn't think there was a problem with their game setup when animations didn't play.

 

If the main page said "DP requires the Tier 2 Patreon pack for all animations to play, but the mod will work with the free pack, you just won't see everything." Again, people would understand.

 

There's nothing wrong with charging money for stuff, but when there's a lack of clarity, some users are going to jump to conclusions.

It's an issue of a disconnect in expectations. If you set the right expectations, more people will be happy.

[Gurpy]

Hey there, my animations aren't working properly (first one with the travel guy outside of solitude was just them standing there naked) and I'm now stuck at the part where you're put in a cell with the lizard guy walking around immediately after entering the big part of the cave. Waited for a bit 'n he walked into the cell door for a bit then chopped through and sat in the chair. Left it running for a good while and tried resting / waiting but nothing triggered any events, just this lizard walking around 'n occasionally glitching through the cell (which I'm guessing is supposed to trigger an event or something).

 

Been messing with my mods 'n such for hours now trying to sort it out but nothing's fixing it, any ideas?

[Delzaron]

1 hour ago, Gurpy said:

Hey there, my animations aren't working properly (first one with the travel guy outside of solitude was just them standing there naked) and I'm now stuck at the part where you're put in a cell with the lizard guy walking around immediately after entering the big part of the cave. Waited for a bit 'n he walked into the cell door for a bit then chopped through and sat in the chair. Left it running for a good while and tried resting / waiting but nothing triggered any events, just this lizard walking around 'n occasionally glitching through the cell (which I'm guessing is supposed to trigger an event or something).

 

Been messing with my mods 'n such for hours now trying to sort it out but nothing's fixing it, any ideas?

???

 

The scene force him to go near the cell door. You need to talk to him.

After, he brings you to Jezera.

 

If he bloecked somewhere (can happen due to the castle rebuilt), use T is make him move.

[Soulvexx]

Loving the mod so far, however I came across a bug that prevents me from moving forward. I did one of the side quests ( the dwemer one ) and when i  came back i was told about the pool/bath. I got to the area, the quests updates about a party and then nothing happens. I tried to use console to change the stage for the quest but either its the last step or i just didn't set the right stage ( tried quite a few ). Any way you can help me out?

[SamZalek]

I need some help here (also sorry for my bad english im french irl),

 

The texture of the.. (tools) seems to not appear. for exemple i made it through the party but these 2 girls were just standing up..doing legit nothing. so i did try to skip to the part when this demon girl take us to the cells downstairs but still nothing , these object are not appearing .

[Delzaron]

3 hours ago, SamZalek said:

I need some help here (also sorry for my bad english im french irl),

 

The texture of the.. (tools) seems to not appear. for exemple i made it through the party but these 2 girls were just standing up..doing legit nothing. so i did try to skip to the part when this demon girl take us to the cells downstairs but still nothing , these object are not appearing .

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Can you send here a screenshot ?

[SamZalek]

On 1/28/2019 at 5:53 PM, Delzaron said:

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Can you send here a screenshot ?

lets me try to re-install the mod and send you pic

[Whizkid]

my 2 cents, lets be professional about this especially when there's a paywall involved, and rule no 1 customer is always right! if otherwise then pls do not bother with paywall..., 2nd rule information is king, this will help consumers decide if its worth investing... and last rule poor customer service now why would u even consider having a paywall in the first place!!!

[Guest]

"Customers" do not always have reasons, so customers have professionals who can provide advices and services.

There is enough informations, "customers" can read or search a bit before paid for some work.
The customer service is usually for customers..

Personnally I can make a 7/7 customer service because it's my work, delzaron do this in his free time..
If he make a paywall maybe he could get more than now and provide a better customer service..
 

Rule of sale... must know losing bad customers to win some good others..

 

[SamZalek]

On 1/28/2019 at 5:53 PM, Delzaron said:

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Can you send here a screenshot ?

here is what i get so far from this mod, basicly this type of problem ( machine aren't showing and animation are not playing) 

[Jakedch]

I'm stuck on the scene with the Argonian too, he walks in circles around the middle part and walks against the bars of the cage, but never talks to me. When i talk to him no option from the mod comes up either, i've tried waiting and it still doesn't work

[TheOvershear]

Delzaron, I've been on a bit of a binge of your content lately, coming back to the game after a long time. 

 

Now, I don't want to come off rude here, seeing as I love your mod(s). However, I can tell that English isn't your first language, and dialogue can be.... a bit rough at times. I don't want to sound like a grammar Nazi, but it makes enjoying the mod difficult when some lines need to be deciphered. 

 

I'd feel like an ass if I said all this without offering to help. If you wanted, I could go through the dialogue text in the CK and make some edits for the next update. Hell, I could do this for all of your mods if you wanted. It's the least I could do. Your mods have great quests, they deserve great dialogue too. 

[BeneathThePlass]

Chiming in here that I've hit the same problem with Veez the Watcher, the Argonian outside the cell. (Although, he's currently trapped INSIDE my cell with me, not sure how that happened, haha.) I've tried talking to him multiple times, but no dialogue for the mod comes up. I've tried waiting for multiple days too, and nothing is changing. I've been poking through the mod on TES5Edit, and checking my quest targets and stages with the console, but while the quest "A New Perspective" IS active in my journal, when I player.sqs the quest ID, it doesn't show that I've completed any of the stages (they all come back as '0').

 

That said, I'm not sure which stage to set it at to try and move forward in the quest. I'm super excited to play through this, I'm just a bit stuck. ^^;

 

EDIT: It might be worth mentioning; I'm seeing things in TES5Edit that have to do with... Nazeem? Something to do with a letter? But I haven't run into any of that at all. I went straight to Solitude, talked to Erikur, and got straight to the 'party' (and then into the cell, haha) that way. 

 

I tried setstaging to 50, which matched the text in my journal, "Where I am? I was kidnapped... I'm now restrained, in a cell..." but Veez still has no mod-appropriate dialogue; that also started a new quest, "A Come Back," telling me to go to bed and read a letter. (It also spawned Jezera in, but she immediately wandered off, and I have no idea where she went.) I tried giving myself the first two letters, 'Strange Letter' and 'Jezera's Letter,' but I'm clearly missing whatever is supposed to lead up to those and that quest.

[Delzaron]

On 2/5/2019 at 6:33 PM, SamZalek said:

here is what i get so far from this mod, basicly this type of problem ( machine aren't showing and animation are not playing) 

Are you allowed to train by the prison guard ?

If yes, use the button to launch the animation.

Fort the balançoire, you need also a training partner.

 

On 2/5/2019 at 10:46 PM, Jakedch said:

I'm stuck on the scene with the Argonian too, he walks in circles around the middle part and walks against the bars of the cage, but never talks to me. When i talk to him no option from the mod comes up either, i've tried waiting and it still doesn't work

Console, and unlock the door : he's surely stuck here.

Next version fix that problem.

1 hour ago, BeneathThePlass said:

Chiming in here that I've hit the same problem with Veez the Watcher, the Argonian outside the cell. (Although, he's currently trapped INSIDE my cell with me, not sure how that happened, haha.) I've tried talking to him multiple times, but no dialogue for the mod comes up. I've tried waiting for multiple days too, and nothing is changing. I've been poking through the mod on TES5Edit, and checking my quest targets and stages with the console, but while the quest "A New Perspective" IS active in my journal, when I player.sqs the quest ID, it doesn't show that I've completed any of the stages (they all come back as '0').

 

That said, I'm not sure which stage to set it at to try and move forward in the quest. I'm super excited to play through this, I'm just a bit stuck. ^^;

 

EDIT: It might be worth mentioning; I'm seeing things in TES5Edit that have to do with... Nazeem? Something to do with a letter? But I haven't run into any of that at all. I went straight to Solitude, talked to Erikur, and got straight to the 'party' (and then into the cell, haha) that way. 

 

I tried setstaging to 50, which matched the text in my journal, "Where I am? I was kidnapped... I'm now restrained, in a cell..." but Veez still has no mod-appropriate dialogue; that also started a new quest, "A Come Back," telling me to go to bed and read a letter. (It also spawned Jezera in, but she immediately wandered off, and I have no idea where she went.) I tried giving myself the first two letters, 'Strange Letter' and 'Jezera's Letter,' but I'm clearly missing whatever is supposed to lead up to those and that quest.

The mod was based on whiterun first, but it was moved to Solitude after.

Some rests with Nazeem styan but are not used anymore.

 

Veez have the dilaogues. It's just his scene doens't start because he can't reach the trigger...

[BeneathThePlass]

On 2/10/2019 at 2:40 PM, Delzaron said:

Veez have the dilaogues. It's just his scene doens't start because he can't reach the trigger...

How do I get his scene to trigger? I've unlocked the door, he's here in the cell with me, but the only dialogue options I have are all generic NPC dialogues.

 

EDIT: Okay, I figured out what I'd done wrong before. (I had the wrong quest ID, fffft, which is entirely my own mixup.) I still couldn't get Veez to talk to me initially in the cell, but by setstaging adp1_begin to 60, it advanced the quest to talk to Jezera, and spawned her in the castle. Everything's looking good from there, so far!

 

Edit the Second: Sadly, running into more issues with Veez (and Lamiae), one I noticed was reported a few pages back, so I can confirm it's still a thing. On day one of playing pet, while I did talk to Veez and the quest did move forward, the quest marker to talk to him never completed. I tried setstaging it (15), and it completed, but then gave me a new marker to talk to Lamiae- this one I can't setstage, because I've already completed it (20), the marker is just stuck on her.

 

Moving on to day two, I'm guessing that has something to do with the issue I'm having now, where I talked to Veez and he told me to follow him in for my exhibit, but he's not actually moving. If I move him to me with the console, he just turns back around and walks back to his waiting spot in the prison. I can go ahead and setstage past the exhibit and animation with 130, so there's that!

 

(Also, for all my reporting the issues, I really do like the set up of everything for this mod, it's lovely! Just a few bugs! But what Bethesda game mod doesn't have those, haha, cause Bethesda games.)

 

Edit the Third: Alright! Got through the four days quest with only one other hiccup; Chuul wouldn't speak to me after the competition, so I had to setstage past that and straight on to Veez and Jez. Small question; is the training quest the jail keeper gives you supposed to stay in your quest log indefinitely? I wasn't sure, but it didn't resolve after I 'trained,' so figured I'd ask. The next quest, triggered perfectly, now I just need to. Keep playing. XD But that's for another time. This mod is definitely fun, and I look forward to playing more of it! Thank you for all your hard work on it!

[SamZalek]

22 hours ago, Delzaron said:

Are you allowed to train by the prison guard ?

If yes, use the button to launch the animation.

Fort the balançoire, you need also a training partner.

 

Console, and unlock the door : he's surely stuck here.

Next version fix that problem.

The mod was based on whiterun first, but it was moved to Solitude after.

Some rests with Nazeem styan but are not used anymore.

 

Veez have the dilaogues. It's just his scene doens't start because he can't reach the trigger...

I mean not only this but, when i arrive to the (party) at the begining both of the girl were standing still. no animation 

[balamora1234]

is ther an active quest during the bath scene because i seem to have an issue with nobody moveing after the "fun"

[Delzaron]

18 hours ago, balamora1234 said:

is ther an active quest during the bath scene because i seem to have an issue with nobody moveing after the "fun"

no. just go, meet the girls, get a scene, and fuck

[Giuwer]

On 1/24/2019 at 7:44 PM, 3scobar said:

help i am in the cell after trying to get into the party but nothing happens

Open console and type:

SetStage adp1_begin 60

It worked for me.. and to get out from a cellar just use toggle command in concole, type:

tcl

Do not forget to switch tcl back to normal (run it again via console)

[colderice]

I been trying to install 0.3 update of this mod but I get a file is incomplete error. I tried re-downloading the file a few times. Tried a few different ways of installing it. The 0.2 was great and I really enjoyed the little bit I done so far with this mod. Any help would be much appropriated.