I Hate Steam!!

[Guest]

yeah that shit is annoying

[Darth_Falcon]

my personal problem with steam is, like others have said, the influx of utter garbage on the service. I don't mean games that I personally wouldn't like, I mean actual garbage, like the hundreds if not thousands by now of simple asset flips. When 200 or more games are released in a week and there are maybe 5 that are actually good, that's a problem. The death of Steam Greenlight was a step in the right direction, but I think Valve needs to take a more hands-on approach and have a team of actual people that verify that a game is at LEAST the original work of the person trying to sell it, or that the game doesn't constantly crash when you launch it, or any of the other problems that have been plaguing steam since they opened the proverbial floodgates to the store page, which can be traced back to the backlash of how they handled a game called "paranautical activity" being allowed on the store. It was denied despite having an established publisher (adult swim games) behind it, the internet collectively lost its mind, so valve said "fine, anyone can be on steam now". Would it cost money and time to establish such a team? yes, but it would only be a drop in the bucket for valve.

[Reginald_001]

Well, you wont be able to pirate all of those games because not all of them will be available. Piracy is getting harder and harder because of new laws and prevention. To "steal it back" is kind of flawed when you think about it because everything has a shelf life. That would be like stealing a replacement water heater because you had already bought one years ago. 

 

All of those DVD games you have are still viable. You just need to have a DVD drive in order to read it. If your operating system doesn't run the game for some reason, then you can always revert back to an older one on another computer. I have games on floppy disks which are obsolete, but I still have old computers laying around with floppy drives. If I ever wanted to pay it, I would simply fire up the old machine with Windows 98 and use that to play all my old floppies. Chances are though that those floppy games have been emulated to run on current systems, so that would be an easier approach, but in the event it's not, I could also do what I just mentioned.

 

Games that are no longer supported doesn't make them obsolete. It just means that any existing or new bugs are not going to be fixed. If a game has been supported for awhile, most major bugs have been fixed and you are only left with rare existing ones that are more of an annoyance than anything. A good example is the last level in Donkey Kong. When you get to that level, the screen becomes heavily distorted making it damn near impossible to make out what you are seeing. You can still play it if you know what screen looks like and know what colors represent.

 

Another example is Windows XP not getting supported anymore and the dire warning they give saying you shouldn't use it. As if hackers all of a sudden can get into XP. That is not what it means at all. If you have XP with all the updates Microsoft puched out, you are left with the most solid Xp there could be. In order for a hacker to come in, they would have to get find a new way of getting into it. It's possible, but they would have to find a new exploit that gets around the last patches. That would be harder to do for most wanna be hackers. The ones that CAN make a new exploit ( because it would have to be complex) are probably not trying to target Xp anyway. They have their eyes on windows 7 and 10. because that is what everyone is switching to. Hell, windows 10 could have an unknown exploit in it that makes it way less secure than a lasted patched XP.

 

 

I won't go into details of pirating games, for me it's a matter of principle.

 

You said 'all those DVD games are still viable'.

No, they are not. The setup software is not recognized by Windows any longer (often not since Win 7). Now, you can BUY the exact same software, with DOSBOX attached to it and pay full price again. That' s theft, no way around it. It's a quick repackaging of the exact same product. Not comparable to products with shelf life as the base code runs on x86 architecture, which as far as I know, is still 100% supported by Windows OS.

 

Otherwise it would be quite easy to make a quick pact with OS makers and simply make each new OS incompatible with older games, so people buy the rehashed, exact same software, with the only difference being that it's now OS compatible.

Oh wait.. that's happening on large scale currently, isn't it.... (!)

 

I don't buy it, literally. I won't buy the same product twice.

For me, that's principle. I paid 59,95 euro which translates to 70 dollars for Half Life 1 when it came out early 2000's... and for that money I expect to play it in perpetuity as long as PC's support x86 architecture.

 

Back to Steam, this is why I still like it after all this time. All games I bought from them are supported, updated when needed and just 'work'.

[ISNAN]

 

Well, you wont be able to pirate all of those games because not all of them will be available. Piracy is getting harder and harder because of new laws and prevention. To "steal it back" is kind of flawed when you think about it because everything has a shelf life. That would be like stealing a replacement water heater because you had already bought one years ago. 

 

All of those DVD games you have are still viable. You just need to have a DVD drive in order to read it. If your operating system doesn't run the game for some reason, then you can always revert back to an older one on another computer. I have games on floppy disks which are obsolete, but I still have old computers laying around with floppy drives. If I ever wanted to pay it, I would simply fire up the old machine with Windows 98 and use that to play all my old floppies. Chances are though that those floppy games have been emulated to run on current systems, so that would be an easier approach, but in the event it's not, I could also do what I just mentioned.

 

Games that are no longer supported doesn't make them obsolete. It just means that any existing or new bugs are not going to be fixed. If a game has been supported for awhile, most major bugs have been fixed and you are only left with rare existing ones that are more of an annoyance than anything. A good example is the last level in Donkey Kong. When you get to that level, the screen becomes heavily distorted making it damn near impossible to make out what you are seeing. You can still play it if you know what screen looks like and know what colors represent.

 

Another example is Windows XP not getting supported anymore and the dire warning they give saying you shouldn't use it. As if hackers all of a sudden can get into XP. That is not what it means at all. If you have XP with all the updates Microsoft puched out, you are left with the most solid Xp there could be. In order for a hacker to come in, they would have to get find a new way of getting into it. It's possible, but they would have to find a new exploit that gets around the last patches. That would be harder to do for most wanna be hackers. The ones that CAN make a new exploit ( because it would have to be complex) are probably not trying to target Xp anyway. They have their eyes on windows 7 and 10. because that is what everyone is switching to. Hell, windows 10 could have an unknown exploit in it that makes it way less secure than a lasted patched XP.

 

 

I won't go into details of pirating games, for me it's a matter of principle.

 

You said 'all those DVD games are still viable'.

No, they are not. The setup software is not recognized by Windows any longer (often not since Win 7). Now, you can BUY the exact same software, with DOSBOX attached to it and pay full price again. That' s theft, no way around it. It's a quick repackaging of the exact same product. Not comparable to products with shelf life as the base code runs on x86 architecture, which as far as I know, is still 100% supported by Windows OS.

 

Otherwise it would be quite easy to make a quick pact with OS makers and simply make each new OS incompatible with older games, so people buy the rehashed, exact same software, with the only difference being that it's now OS compatible.

Oh wait.. that's happening on large scale currently, isn't it.... (!)

 

I don't buy it, literally. I won't buy the same product twice.

For me, that's principle. I paid 59,95 euro which translates to 70 dollars for Half Life 1 when it came out early 2000's... and for that money I expect to play it in perpetuity as long as PC's support x86 architecture.

 

Back to Steam, this is why I still like it after all this time. All games I bought from them are supported, updated when needed and just 'work'.

 

 

 

It really only becomes a major problem when you get into 64bit versions of Windows 10. That OS does a lot of different things in the name of security. That is the downside of using a brand spanking new OS.There are several options though like the one you described with DOSBOX, or one can simply use Steam as an easier route which will ensure the game's life is extended for future use. But one is still limited as they were in the beginning in a sense, because now they have to rely on Steam in order to play that game. As long as Steam stays viable and continue to do what they have been doing, nobody should have to worry, but they are still a company though that does company things. So not only did one company (microsoft) screw you over with their new OS, you now have another company in the equation as well. 

 

I feel your pain about having to spend more money on a game you already spent a lot for. Thankfully though, there are several options available if money becomes an issue. I personally keep an older gaming system around for all my older games if I ever get into a retro mood. For all newer or updated games that have added DLCs, that is where Steam really shines. It has it's uses in that regards. 

[Philip J. Fry]

I have bought over 1000 games on steam and I have never encountered any problems.

I use mod organizer and leave the original files of the game almost untouched.Steam never asks me to re-install games.

Steam is not only a platform where you buy and play games, but also a platform you make friends with people. 

[D_ManXX2]

Yes steam is cancer.

 

 

Outside of what the poster above said not much you can do.......legally anyway.

 

The real cancer is/was piracy. Due to this steam was introduced. There is no way around it. The ease of install i never had any problem with steam.

 

[nIn nIn nIn]

Steam is bad, I hear. 

My son's computer shit itself this week. Totally trashed his windows install. I had no option except a total format and fresh install. His games are on two other hard drives (3 in total). The Steam games only required we reinstall Steam itself, not one extra megabyte of data required at all (nearly 2 TB worth in his Steam install). Can't say the same for the GOG and Origin installs - every single damn game has to be downloaded all over again. That HDD has over 800 GB worth of useless data on it.

Steam is bad you say? Pull the other leg.

[failweb]

Sucks that some games are only released on steam now though, i'd at least like to have a choice of the marketplace I use.

[NickNozownik]

I hate steam and every other bullshit that I need to run in order to play games. I just want to play my fucking games. Put a disc into my computer, install it and boom - ready to play.

Of course there are ways to avoid steam and other shit like that, if you know what I mean.

[RitualClarity]

 

I Love Steam!!

 

i never get any error at all using steam games, currently with 430 games in my library i can happily say that steam is just the best thing that has ever happened to the gaming community

- acess to indie and unpopular games that we would never hear of before

- no need to leave your house to buy the damn games

- people in third world countries that dont have dedicated game stores (or have stores that just sell popular games) can have acess to games too

- extreme discounts in almost all games

- easy acess to updates that you would probably never get before with hard copies

- no need to have 300 launchers for every single company or game

- gog and other sites just became a thing because steam was a success in the first place

the list goes on

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

 

 

 

I am not saying Steam isn't shit. ... I would love to be able to use a game without any manager just install it (and reinstall it as many times as I want) Just want to be clear and focused on the actual problems. Is it Steam and its program? Is it not having mods updated or updating at times when not good fucking up your game? Is it the time to get the tools updates to be able to play the game? If it is the first.. have at it, if it is the later... then you likely will experience the same crap regardless of which manager or no manager used.  

[KoolHndLuke]

 

 

I Love Steam!!

 

i never get any error at all using steam games, currently with 430 games in my library i can happily say that steam is just the best thing that has ever happened to the gaming community

- acess to indie and unpopular games that we would never hear of before

- no need to leave your house to buy the damn games

- people in third world countries that dont have dedicated game stores (or have stores that just sell popular games) can have acess to games too

- extreme discounts in almost all games

- easy acess to updates that you would probably never get before with hard copies

- no need to have 300 launchers for every single company or game

- gog and other sites just became a thing because steam was a success in the first place

the list goes on

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

 

 

 

I am not saying Steam isn't shit. ... I would love to be able to use a game without any manager just install it (and reinstall it as many times as I want) Just want to be clear and focused on the actual problems. Is it Steam and its program? Is it not having mods updated or updating at times when not good fucking up your game? Is it the time to get the tools updates to be able to play the game? If it is the first.. have at it, if it is the later... then you likely will experience the same crap regardless of which manager or no manager used.  

 

I do think that steam interferes with some functions of the script extender for FO4. For instance, LooksMenu cannot save builds unless steam is in offline mode for me. This has not just happened once either. It might be something else, but I do think it is steam. Regardless, I'm still not crazy about Steam. I am trying alternatives.

[RitualClarity]

 

 

 

I Love Steam!!

 

i never get any error at all using steam games, currently with 430 games in my library i can happily say that steam is just the best thing that has ever happened to the gaming community

- acess to indie and unpopular games that we would never hear of before

- no need to leave your house to buy the damn games

- people in third world countries that dont have dedicated game stores (or have stores that just sell popular games) can have acess to games too

- extreme discounts in almost all games

- easy acess to updates that you would probably never get before with hard copies

- no need to have 300 launchers for every single company or game

- gog and other sites just became a thing because steam was a success in the first place

the list goes on

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

 

 

 

I am not saying Steam isn't shit. ... I would love to be able to use a game without any manager just install it (and reinstall it as many times as I want) Just want to be clear and focused on the actual problems. Is it Steam and its program? Is it not having mods updated or updating at times when not good fucking up your game? Is it the time to get the tools updates to be able to play the game? If it is the first.. have at it, if it is the later... then you likely will experience the same crap regardless of which manager or no manager used.  

 

I do think that steam interferes with some functions of the script extender for FO4. For instance, LooksMenu cannot save builds unless steam is in offline mode for me. This has not just happened once either. It might be something else, but I do think it is steam. Regardless, I'm still not crazy about Steam. I am trying alternatives.

 

 

that is the first I have heard about the issue with FO$. did you report the issue to those working on this? check to see if others are having the same problem? If this is something between F4SE  and Steam then it needs to be addressed by the F4SE team regardless. There are many here that don't have the technical skills to correct these issues or even understand them when they occur and they use Steam/Fallout 4/F4SE. I only mention this as your experience and technical understanding of the issue might help to shed light on this issue and help the F4SE team resolve the issue and if it is something else... I am fairly confident that others do or will experience the same issue... eventually and knowing what is causing this issue will be very useful in the long run regardless.

 

I understand about not being crazy about Steam. I am not either however, any alternatives I have tried in the past led to more issues with modded games than it solved. Most building mods for games are using Steam (or Origin) copies. The alternates I have tried never worked as well and gave strange issues that others haven't reported.

 

Most of the time I have Steam setup to only update for one hour a day and most of the time my computer is off at that time, I have the games where possible set up to not update (Origin, Steam etc) except when I decide to do so.  So now I must manually update Stem when it offers (and I think it is relevant and a good idea) as well as my games.

 

For Fallout 4 I keep the game file (exe) etc copied so that if an update to the game does occur and there are issues with F4SE I can roll back easier and be able to play. However, truth be honest, I haven't played Fallout 4 in months if not a year so I am not anywhere near current and even have a clean system (no mods) currently setup as my mods were soooooo verrrrry old. There might very well be issues with F4SE and Steam now. I hope not but it is very possible.

 

In any case, best of luck and if you come up with some legitimate way to do this, please post it here for us.

 

EDIT: UPDATE

One more thing that really pissing me off .. Steam updates... 

 

I cannot see any reason for the game to need to "update" the "ENTIRE" game or at least close to the amount of data that the game contains? 

 

Disclaimer... I have only updated the game about 2 months ago (fully) so there might be some serious updates needed. They are afterall working on the game... I can give them that however, update 55.1GB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really?????? 

 

I had forgotten that issue when I mentioned some of the issues above. ARGH... Lucky I don't want to play it now and only doing this in case I get some desire to do so this week.. (get the idea... some desire.. then decide against. it lol The game really don't interest me much even with some of the excellent updates and new mods coming out ) 

 

[2Dimm]

 

EDIT: UPDATE

One more thing that really pissing me off .. Steam updates... 

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I cannot see any reason for the game to need to "update" the "ENTIRE" game or at least close to the amount of data that the game contains? 

 

Disclaimer... I have only updated the game about 2 months ago (fully) so there might be some serious updates needed. They are afterall working on the game... I can give them that however, update 55.1GB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really?????? 

 

I had forgotten that issue when I mentioned some of the issues above. ARGH... Lucky I don't want to play it now and only doing this in case I get some desire to do so this week.. (get the idea... some desire.. then decide against. it lol The game really don't interest me much even with some of the excellent updates and new mods coming out ) 

 

 

are you sure steam isn't downloading the "High Resolution Texture Pack"? steam loves to download the Skyrim High Resolution Texture Pack for me just because its free, maybe it decided to download the fallout 4 one (which is indeed really big)

[RitualClarity]

 

 

EDIT: UPDATE

One more thing that really pissing me off .. Steam updates... 

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I cannot see any reason for the game to need to "update" the "ENTIRE" game or at least close to the amount of data that the game contains? 

 

Disclaimer... I have only updated the game about 2 months ago (fully) so there might be some serious updates needed. They are afterall working on the game... I can give them that however, update 55.1GB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really?????? 

 

I had forgotten that issue when I mentioned some of the issues above. ARGH... Lucky I don't want to play it now and only doing this in case I get some desire to do so this week.. (get the idea... some desire.. then decide against. it lol The game really don't interest me much even with some of the excellent updates and new mods coming out ) 

 

 

are you sure steam isn't downloading the "High Resolution Texture Pack"? steam loves to download the Skyrim High Resolution Texture Pack for me just because its free, maybe it decided to download the fallout 4 one (which is indeed really big)

 

Thanks for trying to help with his Steam issue. 

I doubt it is doing this. Or at least shouldn't be. I downloaded the High texture pack the last time I updated the game. I was going to "try it" (test my system with the crappy optimized high texture pack ) So I doubt that should be the case. Unless in the past two months they reworked the entire pack. That is one possibility. 

However, I can and should double check that to see if that is active going forward just in case. If it is indeed doing this each update, then I don't care how "good" it might be, I don't need that. 

Thanks. 

[Slorm]

 

Thanks for trying to help with his Steam issue. 

 

I doubt it is doing this. Or at least shouldn't be. I downloaded the High texture pack the last time I updated the game. I was going to "try it" (test my system with the crappy optimized high texture pack ) So I doubt that should be the case. Unless in the past two months they reworked the entire pack. That is one possibility. 

However, I can and should double check that to see if that is active going forward just in case. If it is indeed doing this each update, then I don't care how "good" it might be, I don't need that. 

Thanks. 

 

 

I may be talking out my backside as it was a long time back, but I remember having to contact Steam Support to have the High Res pack removed as I have a feeling that it kept getting downloaded like the DLC are and the only way to stop it was by having it removed.

 

It's worth checking but you do need to know that I have a touch of OCD when it comes to mod tidiness so it's possible I just wanted it off the list (it was a few back)

 

[Tripleekz]

Hard copies are pretty much going the way of the dodo. What you get on disc depending on the developer isn't an entire game which is where steam comes in. Disc's only carry maybe 2 3rd's of a game if that much, the entire game is only on steam. which is why you have to have a connection to install otherwise the full game won't install. you may get a working model but it isn't full content. Most everything Bethesda has is linked to Steam except for this time you can't get the creation kit from steam for FO4 or SkyrimSE. it cost less for dev's to  enlist steam as a host then put alot of money into full game disc's and the further we get from disc's the more expensive it becomes to have them make that many copies. The less data put onto a disc the less it costs.

[RitualClarity]

 

 

Thanks for trying to help with his Steam issue. 

 

I doubt it is doing this. Or at least shouldn't be. I downloaded the High texture pack the last time I updated the game. I was going to "try it" (test my system with the crappy optimized high texture pack ) So I doubt that should be the case. Unless in the past two months they reworked the entire pack. That is one possibility. 

However, I can and should double check that to see if that is active going forward just in case. If it is indeed doing this each update, then I don't care how "good" it might be, I don't need that. 

Thanks. 

 

 

I may be talking out my backside as it was a long time back, but I remember having to contact Steam Support to have the High Res pack removed as I have a feeling that it kept getting downloaded like the DLC are and the only way to stop it was by having it removed.

 

It's worth checking but you do need to know that I have a touch of OCD when it comes to mod tidiness so it's possible I just wanted it off the list (it was a few back)

 

 

 

It appears that the High Texture Pack is a required download. I tried to get it to not be downloaded and faked that it wasn't there (moved it) and it redownloaded it ... REGARDLESS OF IF IT WAS CLICKED OR NOT IN THE GAME MENU. (not manager etc. The actual GAME MENU).

 

However, I believe according to my reading and research (not actual experience ... yet) if you unclick it you won't have it access the files in game.

 

Which means... drum roll.... you have both the REGULAR FILES AND HIGH TEXTURE FILES AT THE SAME TIME!!!!  WASTING SPACE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT IT.

 

Now... that is one really large piece of shit. What about those with a single drive with a small SSD? They end up taking almost 60 gigs of space before they add a single mod, just for the game, when they don't want or need the high texture files. (not able to play it or, have better replacements for them.

 

That is Steam giving you a really big FINGER.

So sad.

 

disclaimer... I did click on the DLC that was free and perhps there is something I am missing (them thinking I want it) however there isn't a clean easy way to find a way to not get that DLC anymore as far as I can see with the limited time I have to check this out currently.

 

Hopefully I am wrong and there is a "remove dlc etc) option like you can with Steam mods and such. If not this really sucks and is just one more check against using Steam like the OP stated.

 

[Slorm]

I had to contact Steam and they removed it for me, I don't think you can yourself once you've clicked on it

[RitualClarity]

You are right. once downloaded you cannot remove it without contacting Steam.

You can rename the esm and the files won't show up in game however you stlil have that shit ton of data on your hard drive. If you re-verify cache you will have to go back into the data folder and rename that high texture file again to get it not to be active.

 

I can't believe that the game wont' allow you to click on the dlcs and disable them.

 

They suggest a 1080 graphics card from what I hear to run a slightly enhanced texture pack ... you have to put your face next to the tree to see the difference...

[pinky6225]

 Where the hell did steam come from anyway? Other than verifying game cache (which I would not need with the disk) I don't see it doing anything but being an unnecessary third party that tries to force updates and shit on you. I have been running games in offline mode for months now, and they run much better that way. Also sometimes games will not launch due to some fucking error steam made- forcing you to reinstall the game and then all your mods. I have looked for ways to yank that steam shit out of my games. But I have found nothing that works or doesn't violate some licensing agreement. It is a fucking cancer for the consumer- yet a boon for greedy, controlling game devs. Does anyone agree? Is there a way to get rid of it?

 

Don't agree, actually having to go to a physical store and purchase and then keep track of disks / CD's / DVD's was a pain and as for DRM once upon a time if someone was unlucky and damaged/lost the manual yep thats right buy the game again, if your physical media wore out so couldnt pass the verification yep thats right buy the game again (back in the mplayer/56k days i got through five mechwarrior 2 cd's solely to pass verification on mplayer)

 

Ordering off the internet then having to wait for delivery was no better

 

So other than its cool to hate something thats main stream really dont get where you coming from as steam has made acquiring/re-installing games so much easier, after having to re-install windows after doing a CPU/MB upgrade it took me like 3 minutes to download steam and then 30 to download skyrim

[RitualClarity]

if you have a game you hate or want to remove including a DLC there seems to be a pretty easy way to do this.

 

I took the risk for a duplicate game I have. (I got the GOTY version of Fallout 3 when it came out as it was cheaper than paying for the DLCs)

 

 

So in the case above if you downloaded the DLC (High Texture Pack) etc or something that is fucking up your game you can request that it be removed as you see above. (as mentioned above by another member.) 

 

As I understand the process you can always "repurchase" the DLC or whatever if you so choose to do so.

 

Disclaimer.

I haven't done this yet. I haven't tried the dlc yet to make up my mind. Also I am working on getting a better graphics card and finally I don't have much interest in playing the game either so no rush

 

Steam might have issues with the above but they provide an easy way to remove the item. I did this with an older duplicate game as mentioned above. I didn't have it installed and as soon as i clicked on the remove button and got back to the library screen it was gone... poof. It was that easy.

[KoolHndLuke]

 

 Where the hell did steam come from anyway? Other than verifying game cache (which I would not need with the disk) I don't see it doing anything but being an unnecessary third party that tries to force updates and shit on you. I have been running games in offline mode for months now, and they run much better that way. Also sometimes games will not launch due to some fucking error steam made- forcing you to reinstall the game and then all your mods. I have looked for ways to yank that steam shit out of my games. But I have found nothing that works or doesn't violate some licensing agreement. It is a fucking cancer for the consumer- yet a boon for greedy, controlling game devs. Does anyone agree? Is there a way to get rid of it?

 

Don't agree, actually having to go to a physical store and purchase and then keep track of disks / CD's / DVD's was a pain and as for DRM once upon a time if someone was unlucky and damaged/lost the manual yep thats right buy the game again, if your physical media wore out so couldnt pass the verification yep thats right buy the game again (back in the mplayer/56k days i got through five mechwarrior 2 cd's solely to pass verification on mplayer)

 

Ordering off the internet then having to wait for delivery was no better

 

So other than its cool to hate something thats main stream really dont get where you coming from as steam has made acquiring/re-installing games so much easier, after having to re-install windows after doing a CPU/MB upgrade it took me like 3 minutes to download steam and then 30 to download skyrim

 

GOG looks like a good alternative to Steam in that their approach is a somewhat less intrusive format for buying and opting for things that are required by Steam. More support with less "big brother". Competition in any market is always good for consumers.

[RitualClarity]

I haven't tried GOG. I wonder how it works with mods, updates and such. 

[Rex89]

Steam is bad, I hear. 

 

My son's computer shit itself this week. Totally trashed his windows install. I had no option except a total format and fresh install. His games are on two other hard drives (3 in total). The Steam games only required we reinstall Steam itself, not one extra megabyte of data required at all (nearly 2 TB worth in his Steam install). Can't say the same for the GOG and Origin installs - every single damn game has to be downloaded all over again. That HDD has over 800 GB worth of useless data on it.

 

Steam is bad you say? Pull the other leg.

 

an this is why you install steam and games onto one hard drive and the os on to another hard drive.

i have my os on C: and my steam and games on D:, all you have to do after a fresh install of windows is just run the steam.exe as admin, login and run the game once and your done no bullshit required, though just to be safe, you run verifying game cache to make sure nothing is broken on said game and uninstall any mods to said game, though i never had problems with this cause i have NMM mod folder on the D: drive all i do is tell NMM where it is .

also you can get a external hard drive and just backup the steam folder, cause by default all the games are installed in the (Steam\steamapps\common)

just backup the steam folder to a external hard drive and your games are safe all you have to do is just copy it back on to the drive you want it on and do this

run the steam.exe as admin and login and run the game once and your done

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Steam is bad, I hear. 

 

My son's computer shit itself this week. Totally trashed his windows install. I had no option except a total format and fresh install. His games are on two other hard drives (3 in total). The Steam games only required we reinstall Steam itself, not one extra megabyte of data required at all (nearly 2 TB worth in his Steam install). Can't say the same for the GOG and Origin installs - every single damn game has to be downloaded all over again. That HDD has over 800 GB worth of useless data on it.

 

Steam is bad you say? Pull the other leg.

So with GOG you have to re-download every single game?  

 

 

(Origin you don't have to download every singe game again. All you need is the installed games and point the Origin install once reinstalled to that folder and go through the "installation" which after a few seconds or so it will register that it is installed and you can play it. Not as efficient as Steam on this case but you don't have to download them again.. at least I haven't had to.