I Hate Steam!!

[KoolHndLuke]

 Where the hell did steam come from anyway? Other than verifying game cache (which I would not need with the disk) I don't see it doing anything but being an unnecessary third party that tries to force updates and shit on you. I have been running games in offline mode for months now, and they run much better that way. Also sometimes games will not launch due to some fucking error steam made- forcing you to reinstall the game and then all your mods. I have looked for ways to yank that steam shit out of my games. But I have found nothing that works or doesn't violate some licensing agreement. It is a fucking cancer for the consumer- yet a boon for greedy, controlling game devs. Does anyone agree? Is there a way to get rid of it?

[MadMansGun]

i switch to GOG versions of the games when possible.

[Yami X]

Yes steam is cancer.

 

 

Outside of what the poster above said not much you can do.......legally anyway.

[KoolHndLuke]

i switch to GOG versions of the games when possible.

You mean with copies before steam? That wouldn't really help with the newer games. Would it?

[MadMansGun]

https://www.gog.com/games?devpub=bethesda_softworks_llc&sort=popularity&page=1

[KoolHndLuke]

https://www.gog.com/games?devpub=bethesda_softworks_llc&sort=popularity&page=1

Thanks. I'll give em' a try. Is it just a buy and forget type transaction? No big brother?

[MadMansGun]

 

https://www.gog.com/games?devpub=bethesda_softworks_llc&sort=popularity&page=1

Thanks. I'll give em' a try. Is it just a buy and forget type transaction?

 

 

more like: login, buy, download, logout, install, then forget. the games are DRM free (for the most part) so there is no download or install limit.

the games do go on sale a lot so hold off for now until they go on sale again.

 

edit: add a game to your wishlist and GOG will send you a message when it goes on sale.

and sometimes they have a promotional thing where they let you merge your steam game list with your GOG list if they have the games on there site (therefor you can sometimes get DRM free copys of your games for free)

[myuhinny]

Sometimes when you get a steam error when trying to launch a game all you need to do is kill steam and then restart it and it should fix the error. I have had it throw errors before usually when trying to play skyrim and it'll throw a error but after killing it and restarting steam the error goes away.

[KoolHndLuke]

Sometimes when you get a steam error when trying to launch a game all you need to do is kill steam and then restart it and it should fix the error. I have had it throw errors before usually when trying to play skyrim and it'll throw a error but after killing it and restarting steam the error goes away.

Thanks for the advice. But I want to kill steam permanently! I see no benefit to it whatsoever. I've read some arguments that the pc gaming community is better off with steam though. Am I missing something? Piracy maybe?

[myuhinny]

Only way to get rid of steam is to uninstall it and then stop buying games that use it.

[2Dimm]

I Love Steam!!

 

i never get any error at all using steam games, currently with 430 games in my library i can happily say that steam is just the best thing that has ever happened to the gaming community

- acess to indie and unpopular games that we would never hear of before
- no need to leave your house to buy the damn games
- people in third world countries that dont have dedicated game stores (or have stores that just sell popular games) can have acess to games too
- extreme discounts in almost all games

- easy acess to updates that you would probably never get before with hard copies

- no need to have 300 launchers for every single company or game

- gog and other sites just became a thing because steam was a success in the first place

the list goes on

 

[KoolHndLuke]

I Love Steam!!

 

i never get any error at all using steam games, currently with 430 games in my library i can happily say that steam is just the best thing that has ever happened to the gaming community

- acess to indie and unpopular games that we would never hear of before

- no need to leave your house to buy the damn games

- people in third world countries that dont have dedicated game stores (or have stores that just sell popular games) can have acess to games too

- extreme discounts in almost all games

- easy acess to updates that you would probably never get before with hard copies

- no need to have 300 launchers for every single company or game

- gog and other sites just became a thing because steam was a success in the first place

the list goes on

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

[Guest]

I Love Steam!!

 

i never get any error at all using steam games, currently with 430 games in my library i can happily say that steam is just the best thing that has ever happened to the gaming community

- acess to indie and unpopular games that we would never hear of before

- no need to leave your house to buy the damn games

- people in third world countries that dont have dedicated game stores (or have stores that just sell popular games) can have acess to games too

- extreme discounts in almost all games

- easy acess to updates that you would probably never get before with hard copies

- no need to have 300 launchers for every single company or game

- gog and other sites just became a thing because steam was a success in the first place

the list goes on

 

Agreed. Aside from the DRM aspect, Steam is a good place to find a good number of games that wouldn't see the light of day otherwise. plenty of bad games as well, but that's a different topic. Valve seems to handle things well enough for the most part. Haven't had any errors either that have caused me to reinstall a game because of steam, that's just idiocy on my part when I was new to everything and learning how to mod my games.

[MadMansGun]

- gog and other sites just became a thing because steam was a success in the first place

the list goes on

 

GOG was made to be the chemotherapy to kill the cancer that is steam.

and 80% of the "indie" games are absolute crap, Nerd3 has already proven that.

[Guest]

 

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

 

 

Not sure whether that's entirely Steams fault. If you had anything that managed updates from the devs of the game stuff like mods will be broken for the time being after anyhow.

[Poet Olette]

Sometimes when you get a steam error when trying to launch a game all you need to do is kill steam and then restart it and it should fix the error. I have had it throw errors before usually when trying to play skyrim and it'll throw a error but after killing it and restarting steam the error goes away.

Thats why there is a restart button in the menu now too. 

[2Dimm]

 

I Love Steam!!

 

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

 

 

but what is the big deal in having steam on the background in the first place? my steam uses like 44mb of ram and 1% of my cpu from time to time

and you blaming steam on the problems that the game devs create just dont make any sense at all

[KoolHndLuke]

 

 

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

 

 

Not sure whether that's entirely Steams fault. If you had anything that managed updates from the devs of the game stuff like mods will be broken for the time being after anyhow.

 

2 vanilla quests in Skyrim that were never troublesome before have stopped working for me in both the main quest and the thieves guild. I'm very suspicious of an update or the last game patch for this since I don't use mods that affect them.

[2Dimm]

 

 

 

Alright. I hear ya. Still I would just like to not have a 3rd party dependency for running my games. And I have seen game updates that break as much as they supposedly fix.

 

 

Not sure whether that's entirely Steams fault. If you had anything that managed updates from the devs of the game stuff like mods will be broken for the time being after anyhow.

 

2 vanilla quests in Skyrim that were never troublesome before have stopped working for me in both the main quest and the thieves guild. I'm very suspicious of an update for this.

 

 

skyrim doesnt update since 2013

[KoolHndLuke]

 

 

 

 

 

 

skyrim doesnt update since 2013

 

Well it may be something else. But I still don't like steam. As I have said, my games run a little better in off-line mode. Not only that, you have to run mods to turn things back on that steam turns off for say....FO4 survival mode. My question here would be does steam filter game content or function in other ways?

[tarl7]

Whenever you mention this subject there are always some steam boys (probably paid by steam lol) saying how great it is.  Anyhow yes I agree steam is well a big pile of steaming you know what. The idea is  to make people become dependant and some people love being dependant . In order to install you need to hook up to steam because your install disk which you bought doesn't have all the install files. When I buy something I want the whole product not a piece of it having to hook up to the company to reinstall or use it. I play skyrim and Fallout 4 which I legally bought but do not run steam at all. just do a good web search for alternatives.  Good luck!

[Guest]

 

Well it may be something else. But I still don't like steam. As I have said, my games run a little better in off-line mode. Not only that, you have to run mods to turn things back on that steam turns off for say....FO4 survival mode. My question here would be does steam filter game content or function in other ways?

 

 

 

I think the only thing running in the background other than the application is the Steam Overlay. And that can be disabled.

[Guest]

Whenever you mention this subject there are always some steam boys (probably paid by steam lol) saying how great it is.  Anyhow yes I agree steam is well a big pile of steaming you know what. The idea is  to make people become dependant and some people love being dependant . In order to install you need to hook up to steam because your install disk which you bought doesn't have all the install files. When I buy something I want the whole product not a piece of it having to hook up to the company to reinstall or use it. I play skyrim and Fallout 4 which I legally bought but do not run steam at all. just do a good web search for alternatives.  Good luck!

 

It's certainly not the ideal form in which to buy games and manage a library. But it and the concept of drm are not going to go away. It's just a simple method of obtaining a "license" to play a game. It sucks but that's the way things are. It most likely will continue to follow this trend even if valve goes under, I'm just guessing Microsoft and others will be there to fill in the cracks.

[BAB PEEG]

Wow steam is such cancer do I get a medal yet?

[zzz72w3r]

GOG DRM free > GOG > Steam >.....................................................>Origin