I Hate Steam!!

[Rex89]

You are right. once downloaded you cannot remove it without contacting Steam.

You can rename the esm and the files won't show up in game however you stlil have that shit ton of data on your hard drive. If you re-verify cache you will have to go back into the data folder and rename that high texture file again to get it not to be active.

 

I can't believe that the game wont' allow you to click on the dlcs and disable them.

 

They suggest a 1080 graphics card from what I hear to run a slightly enhanced texture pack ... you have to put your face next to the tree to see the difference...

 

that's what this is for :/ though not all games have this all you do is un tick the box's and they wont install that DLC

[KoolHndLuke]

I haven't tried GOG. I wonder how it works with mods, updates and such. 

People have posted that they have few or no issues with mods in Beth or other games. Also this- As of Galaxy client 1.2, you can now globally disable auto-updates to prevent Galaxy from automatically updating games to their pristine official state, thereby preventing it from overwriting mods.

[RitualClarity]

 

I haven't tried GOG. I wonder how it works with mods, updates and such. 

People have posted that they have few or no issues with mods in Beth or other games.

 

Thanks for the update. I have been checking and haven't seen any complaints with my Google searches. I don't think there should be any issues since they should be the same files as well (barring the fact that the game wasn't updated recently) 

 

See you updated your post above. 

 

I assume Galaxy is the manager for files... ? Cool. 

[Rex89]

 

So with GOG you have to re-download every single game?  

 

 

 

no you don't, you can use the gog galaxy client to download the game, once installed in one of the menus you can download a backup of the game for safe keeping or you could go to your gog library page and download the games manually and backup the installer on a external hard drive.

the galaxy client is mostly use for multiplayer games and is not required to play games or download games but it make it easier to keep track and to update the games along with other stuff same as steam minus a few things here and there

 

you can also back up your games on steam too just right click on the install game in the library, there system is a bit different tough

[MadMansGun]

I haven't tried GOG. I wonder how it works with mods, updates and such.

most mods work fine and without problems, there was a problem with one of the mods for "return to castle wolfenstein" but i can't remember what the mod was called or what it did.

[lordgdavid]

I hate digital distribution. And steam is not the worst of it.

[pinky6225]

 

 

 Where the hell did steam come from anyway? Other than verifying game cache (which I would not need with the disk) I don't see it doing anything but being an unnecessary third party that tries to force updates and shit on you. I have been running games in offline mode for months now, and they run much better that way. Also sometimes games will not launch due to some fucking error steam made- forcing you to reinstall the game and then all your mods. I have looked for ways to yank that steam shit out of my games. But I have found nothing that works or doesn't violate some licensing agreement. It is a fucking cancer for the consumer- yet a boon for greedy, controlling game devs. Does anyone agree? Is there a way to get rid of it?

 

Don't agree, actually having to go to a physical store and purchase and then keep track of disks / CD's / DVD's was a pain and as for DRM once upon a time if someone was unlucky and damaged/lost the manual yep thats right buy the game again, if your physical media wore out so couldnt pass the verification yep thats right buy the game again (back in the mplayer/56k days i got through five mechwarrior 2 cd's solely to pass verification on mplayer)

 

Ordering off the internet then having to wait for delivery was no better

 

So other than its cool to hate something thats main stream really dont get where you coming from as steam has made acquiring/re-installing games so much easier, after having to re-install windows after doing a CPU/MB upgrade it took me like 3 minutes to download steam and then 30 to download skyrim

 

GOG looks like a good alternative to Steam in that their approach is a somewhat less intrusive format for buying and opting for things that are required by Steam. More support with less "big brother". Competition in any market is always good for consumers.

 

 

GoG has a client program that has to be used as well to my knowledge (not used GoG in time as its no longer really about good old games) and requires account authentication - had to help someone with how to stop getting the GoG client needs update message whenever they started up there PC as it was being used on a PC with two user accounts but only one of the user accounts had a GoG account

 

You can set steam games to only update on launch and in skyrims case not launch it via steam

 

Having a preference for another platform is totally up to you but i dont get how that means "steam is cancer*" which was stated earlier in the thread by peeps

 

*not really happy with the usage of that word in that context considering how serious cancer actually is but that's a fight for another day

[RitualClarity]

I don't like the term "cancer" as well, however, I believe it is meant to represent the way the DRM and online management is spreading. Steam was one of if not the very first online digital service provider. Later I believe Origin ripped their games out of Steam and move to their own "service" and others are coming following similar (but not the same) processes.

 

Cancer, starts then spreads far and wide from it's source. You can use the same terminology for whatever follows those characteristics if it is evil or horrible.. "Racism, Sexism, etc" can be viewed as a "Cancer" for if it isn't stopped it will spread and spread. (in theory) And must be stopped at all cost.

 

I believe that is what was meant by the use of cancer. I could be wrong, and it isn't a nice thing but people do use/reference cancer that way. I don't believe it is meant in any way to lessen the severity of those that have experienced cancer either personally or through friends and/or family.

[KoolHndLuke]

 

 

 

GoG has a client program that has to be used as well to my knowledge (not used GoG in time as its no longer really about good old games) and requires account authentication - had to help someone with how to stop getting the GoG client needs update message whenever they started up there PC as it was being used on a PC with two user accounts but only one of the user accounts had a GoG account

 

You can set steam games to only update on launch and in skyrims case not launch it via steam

 

Having a preference for another platform is totally up to you but i dont get how that means "steam is cancer*" which was stated earlier in the thread by peeps

 

*not really happy with the usage of that word in that context considering how serious cancer actually is but that's a fight for another day

 

OK. Not cancer, how about a "sickness". Is that somewhat less offensive to you?

[MadMansGun]

GoG has a client program that has to be used as well to my knowledge (not used GoG in time as its no longer really about good old games) and requires account authentication.

it's optional and not at all required for installing or playing single player games, but with the death of GameSpy it has become required for online multiplayer games.

 

I believe that is what was meant by the use of cancer. I could be wrong, and it isn't a nice thing but people do use/reference cancer that way. I don't believe it is meant in any way to lessen the severity of those that have experienced cancer either personally or through friends and/or family.

my grandparents died from cancer (that was unnaturally caused by some sort of radio tower that was built next to there home) and i have no problem calling steam a "cancer".

 

but on that note, if anyone here ever gets bone cancer: KILL YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY, because you seriously don't want to go through that fucking hell.

[RitualClarity]

 

 

 

 

GoG has a client program that has to be used as well to my knowledge (not used GoG in time as its no longer really about good old games) and requires account authentication - had to help someone with how to stop getting the GoG client needs update message whenever they started up there PC as it was being used on a PC with two user accounts but only one of the user accounts had a GoG account

 

You can set steam games to only update on launch and in skyrims case not launch it via steam

 

Having a preference for another platform is totally up to you but i dont get how that means "steam is cancer*" which was stated earlier in the thread by peeps

 

*not really happy with the usage of that word in that context considering how serious cancer actually is but that's a fight for another day

 

OK. Not cancer, how about a "sickness". Is that somewhat less offensive to you?

 

 

I believe the "sickness" is the slow loss of our control over purchases we make and the way that corporations (gaming, music, video) are slowly taking over and dictating what we do with the items we buy and how we use it.

 

We should be able do use and do what we want with what we buy, have alternatives for those that don't want to use Steam (as well as those that appreciate the use of Steam or other "providers) When Steam came out we did, and as years go on we have less and less.

 

I could be wrong... what do you think? Is it the restriction of our purchases or just the specific service (Steam) that is the issue for you?

 

[Philip J. Fry]

I love Steam.  But lately it's been acting like a little bitch.  It won't let me play WItcher 2 and it won't properly install Age of Wonders 3 with all dlc after many tries.   So I had to buy both on GoG when they were on sale.  Luckily it installed Total War: Warhammer properly after I bought it on sale.  Also I was glad it installed SSE properly several months ago. 

I don't have AoW 3, but I can play witcher 2 without any problems. I'm sure there is some way to fix it, you don't need resort to buying the games again.

[pinky6225]

 

 

 

 

GoG has a client program that has to be used as well to my knowledge (not used GoG in time as its no longer really about good old games) and requires account authentication - had to help someone with how to stop getting the GoG client needs update message whenever they started up there PC as it was being used on a PC with two user accounts but only one of the user accounts had a GoG account

 

You can set steam games to only update on launch and in skyrims case not launch it via steam

 

Having a preference for another platform is totally up to you but i dont get how that means "steam is cancer*" which was stated earlier in the thread by peeps

 

*not really happy with the usage of that word in that context considering how serious cancer actually is but that's a fight for another day

 

OK. Not cancer, how about a "sickness". Is that somewhat less offensive to you?

 

 

If you feel thats appropriate go for it, i'm not offended by the usage of the word (which is why i said not really happy rather than offended) but i do feel its in poor taste, considering the breadth of the english language i'm sure there are plenty of other words available

 

Considering the opening post was i hate it and the recent post was basically something else is better if i was nit picking i'd query that word as well although it seems quite common on the internet now that people only have two emotions (hate it / love it) with no shades of grey inbetween

[KoolHndLuke]

 

 

 

If you feel thats appropriate go for it, i'm not offended by the usage of the word (which is why i said not really happy rather than offended) but i do feel its in poor taste, considering the breadth of the english language i'm sure there are plenty of other words available

 

Considering the opening post was i hate it and the recent post was basically something else is better if i was nit picking i'd query that word as well although it seems quite common on the internet now that people only have two emotions (hate it / love it) with no shades of grey inbetween

 

I felt that strongly about it at the time I made the opening post. Now I simply dislike it for reasons I no longer care to explain. I do agree that "hate" and "love" are used a bit too often to describe how people feel about things. And yes, you are nitpicking. But let's drop at that. Shall we?

[Kain82]

 

I love Steam.  But lately it's been acting like a little bitch.  It won't let me play WItcher 2 and it won't properly install Age of Wonders 3 with all dlc after many tries.   So I had to buy both on GoG when they were on sale.  Luckily it installed Total War: Warhammer properly after I bought it on sale.  Also I was glad it installed SSE properly several months ago. 

I don't have AoW 3, but I can play witcher 2 without any problems. I'm sure there is some way to fix it, you don't need resort to buying the games again.

 

 

Witcher 2 was dirt cheap on GoG when I bought it.  It was like $2.99.  AoW3 was also dirt cheap as well.  But thank you for the advice.  If I run into any similar problems with my games I will look for a fix online.    Also I forgot to mention I had to re-buy KOTOR I and KOTOR II from gog when they were on sale, cause the steam versions would not work for me at all.