PAH - And you get a slave! (LE/SE)

[Musje]

5 minutes ago, EinarrTheRed said:

Have you broken Bruma yet? ?

That's just it. When you finish Skyrim, you start over with new lands, new quests, new followers or new SL mods   Or add some stuff like Frostfall or Basic Needs to add realism. This game has replay value like no other (or we might not be modding it...)

[travelmedic]

2 hours ago, EinarrTheRed said:

Have you broken Bruma yet? ?

Nope, at least not yet...

 

For the first time ever, finished the main quest, finished HF, finished DG, 99% finished DB (all except some side quests).  Using Legacy of the Dragonborn and all of its supported mods, have finished all but Grey Cowl of Nocturnal and Forgotten City, and have about 2700 displays in my museum.  All total have about 350 mods thanks to some merges and have spent a lot of time doing them too.  Once I finish the LOTD stuff, then it's time for Rigmor of Cyrodiil.  If I still have an esp slot open at that point then I'll try to break Bruma.

 

In spite of my humongous, heavily scripted load order, this is my most stable game ever, I've never come even close to getting this far before.

[travelmedic]

2 hours ago, EinarrTheRed said:

Have you broken Bruma yet? ?

Nope, at least not yet...

 

For the first time ever, finished the main quest, finished HF, finished DG, 99% finished DB (all except some side quests).  Using Legacy of the Dragonborn and all of its supported mods, have finished all but Grey Cowl of Nocturnal and Forgotten City, and have about 2700 displays in my museum.  All total have about 350 mods thanks to some merges and have spent a lot of time doing them too.  Once I finish the LOTD stuff, then it's time for Rigmor of Cyrodiil.  If I still have an esp slot open at that point then I'll try to break Bruma.

 

In spite of my humongous, heavily scripted load order, this is my most stable game ever, I've never come even close to getting this far before.

[EinarrTheRed]

I won't give any spoilers but I enjoyed Bruma a great deal just for the scenery alone.  The landscape is beautifully well done.  I had fun just wandering around gawking.

 

Ironically I just downloaded Rigmor today, have never tried it before so will do that soon.  I have played through Forgotten City and it was quite the enjoyable gem I thought.

 

My current save game is quite old, dates back to 2017 and despite all I've done to it with installing and removing mods it still runs pretty stable.  I've finished the the main quest and DLC many times, battling Miraak is probably my favorite (and the vampire stuff my least favorite, I always found Serana annoying).  Mostly using my current game to try out things and as a test environment for a few of my own mod projects.

[dooders]

Love the mod! Ive been using it with no problems for awhile now. However I ran into an issue with custom houses. Im sure this is completely on my end. I created a new player home and for some reason I cant open a brothel in it. I have the perks and the slaves are where they should be as far as training goes. I can open a brothel in other custom homes I didnt create but I cant open one in my own created one. I guess my question is, how does this mod determine if a home is ok for a brothel or not? 

[WesternWolf]

First off, thank you for the mod. It brings so much more depth to PAHE, and I love having it in my game.

 

On my most recent playthrough, with the newest version for SSE (PAH AndYouGetASlave 0.57c SSE), I've found an anomaly that I'm hoping you can help me with: slave and owner counts keep resetting to zero, and city slavery rankings don't increase. Might be a conflict with another mod or something similar, but I'll be damned if I can figure out which one. I have PAHE and HSH installed, as well as Devious Devices, and the correct patches for each.

 

Here's my load order, in case it helps:

 

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GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1
EFFCore.esm=1
UndergroundBathhouse.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
FlowerGirls SE.esm=1
FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm=1
GeneralStores.esm=1
SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm=1
paradise_halls.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1
TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp=1
Immersive Wenches.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
RaceMenuHH.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
AddItemMenuSE.esp=1
[SunJeong] FairyTale.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=0
Sakora's Make Up Kit - Extended Colors.esp=1
saLa_Hairs.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
[SunJeong] Sexy Night Gown.esp=1
[SunJeong] QBSchoolGirl.esp=1
XN_AngelsSmile.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp=1
AllNudePlay.esp=1
DD_Helpers_SSE.esp=1
EFFDialogue.esp=1
Rayg_NoBYOHAttacks.esp=1
HF_Lakeview_PHB_EX.esp=1
ub_apachii_hair.esp=1
ub_cell_darkarea.esp=1
ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp=1
ub_invite_any_npc.esp=1
Golden Rings Of Craft.esp=1
Enchanting Freedom.esp=1
CraftableCloudStorage(GS).esp=1
MigalsBards.esp=1
Serana.esp=1
Toccata.esp=1
FollowerCiceria.esp=1
Aesthetic Elisif.esp=1
Abigail The Maid.esp=1
RemakeSkirt.esp=1
Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp=1
Deadly Wenches.esp=1
Deadly Wenches - Faction Addon.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
noguardhelmets.esp=1
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp=1
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1
HF_Windstad_PHB_EX.esp=1
HF_Heljarchen_PHBXB1_EX.esp=1
The Manipulator.esp=1
PuppetMaster.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp=1
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
buildingmaterialsgodchest.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
Chaconne.esp=1
SkyDreamKittens.esp=1
SkyDreamMaidens.esp=1
SkyDreamMerMaids.esp=1
VeronicaFollower.esp=1
Spartan Bard Outfit CBBE.esp=1
Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp=1
Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp=1
CiceroFemaleSE.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
[Yinkle] Amy Outfit CBBE SE SMP.esp=1
Amiella Outfit.esp=1
eu3fan_teleporter.esp=1
Hearthfire General Stores Addon.esp=1
General Stores for Severin Manor SSE.esp=1
Dienes_Crafting_Storage(GS).esp=1
Metalsabers Beautiful Ladies of Skyrim.esp=1
Bijin Wives.esp=1
Bijin NPCs.esp=1
MigalsHousecarlBeauties.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
Lynly Star-Sung.esp=1
The Ordinary Women.esp=1
WhiterunImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp=1
Njada Replacer.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
MoonlightTalesMCM.esp=1
MistySkye.esp=1
Abduction.esp=1
Public Executions.esp=1
FactionSpy.esp=1
SLALAnimObj.esp=1
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp=1
LazyTools.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp=1
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp=1
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp=1
pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp=1
Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp=1
pahe-tdf-patch.esp=1
LADX_SSE.esp=1
HearthCraft.esp=1
SimpleOutfitManager.esp=1
SSE_TGHQO.esp=1
Ethereal General Stores.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
MagesPack.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1
LABikiniSSE.esp=1
R18pn - lingerie Set.esp=1
PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp=1
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp=1
JaxonzRenamer.esp=1

 

Any help would be appreciated. I could just engage the cheat mode to create progress, but I'd prefer to earn those perks on my own.

 

Thanks!

[EinarrTheRed]

6 hours ago, dooders said:

Love the mod! Ive been using it with no problems for awhile now. However I ran into an issue with custom houses. Im sure this is completely on my end. I created a new player home and for some reason I cant open a brothel in it. I have the perks and the slaves are where they should be as far as training goes. I can open a brothel in other custom homes I didnt create but I cant open one in my own created one. I guess my question is, how does this mod determine if a home is ok for a brothel or not? 

Just a shot in the dark but when you created your own home's interior cell, did you set the owning faction to PlayerFaction?

[Musje]

2 hours ago, WesternWolf said:

First off, thank you for the mod. It brings so much more depth to PAHE, and I love having it in my game.

 

On my most recent playthrough, with the newest version for SSE (PAH AndYouGetASlave 0.57c SSE), I've found an anomaly that I'm hoping you can help me with: slave and owner counts keep resetting to zero, and city slavery rankings don't increase. Might be a conflict with another mod or something similar, but I'll be damned if I can figure out which one. I have PAHE and HSH installed, as well as Devious Devices, and the correct patches for each.

 

Here's my load order, in case it helps:

 

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GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1
EFFCore.esm=1
UndergroundBathhouse.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
FlowerGirls SE.esm=1
FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm=1
GeneralStores.esm=1
SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm=1
paradise_halls.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1
TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp=1
Immersive Wenches.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
RaceMenuHH.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
AddItemMenuSE.esp=1
[SunJeong] FairyTale.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=0
Sakora's Make Up Kit - Extended Colors.esp=1
saLa_Hairs.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
[SunJeong] Sexy Night Gown.esp=1
[SunJeong] QBSchoolGirl.esp=1
XN_AngelsSmile.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp=1
AllNudePlay.esp=1
DD_Helpers_SSE.esp=1
EFFDialogue.esp=1
Rayg_NoBYOHAttacks.esp=1
HF_Lakeview_PHB_EX.esp=1
ub_apachii_hair.esp=1
ub_cell_darkarea.esp=1
ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp=1
ub_invite_any_npc.esp=1
Golden Rings Of Craft.esp=1
Enchanting Freedom.esp=1
CraftableCloudStorage(GS).esp=1
MigalsBards.esp=1
Serana.esp=1
Toccata.esp=1
FollowerCiceria.esp=1
Aesthetic Elisif.esp=1
Abigail The Maid.esp=1
RemakeSkirt.esp=1
Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp=1
Deadly Wenches.esp=1
Deadly Wenches - Faction Addon.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
noguardhelmets.esp=1
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp=1
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1
HF_Windstad_PHB_EX.esp=1
HF_Heljarchen_PHBXB1_EX.esp=1
The Manipulator.esp=1
PuppetMaster.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp=1
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
buildingmaterialsgodchest.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
Chaconne.esp=1
SkyDreamKittens.esp=1
SkyDreamMaidens.esp=1
SkyDreamMerMaids.esp=1
VeronicaFollower.esp=1
Spartan Bard Outfit CBBE.esp=1
Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp=1
Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp=1
CiceroFemaleSE.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
[Yinkle] Amy Outfit CBBE SE SMP.esp=1
Amiella Outfit.esp=1
eu3fan_teleporter.esp=1
Hearthfire General Stores Addon.esp=1
General Stores for Severin Manor SSE.esp=1
Dienes_Crafting_Storage(GS).esp=1
Metalsabers Beautiful Ladies of Skyrim.esp=1
Bijin Wives.esp=1
Bijin NPCs.esp=1
MigalsHousecarlBeauties.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
Lynly Star-Sung.esp=1
The Ordinary Women.esp=1
WhiterunImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp=1
Njada Replacer.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
MoonlightTalesMCM.esp=1
MistySkye.esp=1
Abduction.esp=1
Public Executions.esp=1
FactionSpy.esp=1
SLALAnimObj.esp=1
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp=1
LazyTools.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp=1
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp=1
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp=1
pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp=1
Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp=1
pahe-tdf-patch.esp=1
LADX_SSE.esp=1
HearthCraft.esp=1
SimpleOutfitManager.esp=1
SSE_TGHQO.esp=1
Ethereal General Stores.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
MagesPack.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1
LABikiniSSE.esp=1
R18pn - lingerie Set.esp=1
PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp=1
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp=1
JaxonzRenamer.esp=1

 

Any help would be appreciated. I could just engage the cheat mode to create progress, but I'd prefer to earn those perks on my own.

 

Thanks!

Can you also post the papyrus log please?

it sounds like your papyrusutils aren’t working correctly, or SKSE isn’t saving the slave and owner data stored in papyrusutils. 

[dooders]

8 hours ago, EinarrTheRed said:

Just a shot in the dark but when you created your own home's interior cell, did you set the owning faction to PlayerFaction?

Yeah I did. I even tried to change the location of the cell. I also turned on slavery everywhere just to see if that would help and it doesn’t. When I pull up the MCM it says location unknown. When I pull up the MCM in any other location it says exactly where I am. Ive looked up tutorials on how to make custom homes just see if I missed something but it looks like I’ve done everything right. 

[EinarrTheRed]

Location unknown sounds like either you didn't create a LocationRef or it isn't set up properly.

 

If you don't know how, its easy to do.

Under World Data > Location > right click and select New

Give it a unique reference name (I also use the what I'm naming the location and add at the end Loc, exmaple MyHouseLoc)

Then the display name (example My House)

Then set the parent location, this is the part of the world it connects to.  Example Breezehome has WhiterunWorld as its parent location.  If you had something out in the main world within Whiterun WhiterunHoldLocation would be the parent location (HSH needs this so it knows where your house is and what factions to associate it with).

For Keywords you can add LocTypeDwelling, LocTypeHouse and LocTypePlayerHouse are all typically used for player homes (add all three), you can add others but unless you know what you're doing and have a reason to, don't.

Click Ok

 

Then go back to the interior Cell and right click and edit your house interior cell.

On the Common tab set the location using the drop down and select the location you just created above.

 

Finally, and this isn't to do with HSH, its just something you want to make sure you've done for player homes, go to the Interior Data tab and under Encounter Zone set it to NoResetZone (player homes should always be set to that unless you have a very good reason not to, this keeps stuff in the house, like containers, from resetting and causing you to loose stuff you stored).

 

If you'd already done all that then I'm not sure why your created home isn't working fully with HSH.

[dooders]

21 minutes ago, EinarrTheRed said:

Location unknown sounds like either you didn't create a LocationRef or it isn't set up properly.

 

If you don't know how, its easy to do.

Under World Data > Location > right click and select New

Give it a unique reference name (I also use the what I'm naming the location and add at the end Loc, exmaple MyHouseLoc)

Then the display name (example My House)

Then set the parent location, this is the part of the world it connects to.  Example Breezehome has WhiterunWorld as its parent location.  If you had something out in the main world within Whiterun WhiterunHoldLocation would be the parent location (HSH needs this so it knows where your house is and what factions to associate it with).

For Keywords you can add LocTypeDwelling, LocTypeHouse and LocTypePlayerHouse are all typically used for player homes (add all three), you can add others but unless you know what you're doing and have a reason to, don't.

Click Ok

 

Then go back to the interior Cell and right click and edit your house interior cell.

On the Common tab set the location using the drop down and select the location you just created above.

 

Finally, and this isn't to do with HSH, its just something you want to make sure you've done for player homes, go to the Interior Data tab and under Encounter Zone set it to NoResetZone (player homes should always be set to that unless you have a very good reason not to, this keeps stuff in the house, like containers, from resetting and causing you to loose stuff you stored).

 

If you'd already done all that then I'm not sure why your created home isn't working fully with HSH.

That fixed it! thank you so much for your help. None of the tutorials that I watched said anything about the world data location step you mentioned above.

[WesternWolf]

8 hours ago, Musje said:

Can you also post the papyrus log please?

it sounds like your papyrusutils aren’t working correctly, or SKSE isn’t saving the slave and owner data stored in papyrusutils. 

Thanks Musje! I'm still little more than an amateur at this. Here are my most recent Papyrus Logs as well.

Papyrus.0.log Papyrus.1.log

[ashmodaivirolac]

Just a simple question about pitfights.

Are they implemented like slave autctions as events in cities, or is there a special location for them.
Up to now i just get slave autions in the cities, and nothing about pitfights ingame.

[Musje]

2 hours ago, ashmodaivirolac said:

Just a simple question about pitfights.

Are they implemented like slave autctions as events in cities, or is there a special location for them.
Up to now i just get slave autions in the cities, and nothing about pitfights ingame.

They are in the smaller towns like Riverwood.

[Psalam]

Here's something I noted yesterday. I repeated it from the save and got the same thing today.

 

I was in Markarth and learned that there was an auction in Dawnstar. I went into Vlindrel Hall and got a brothel slave to follow me. I fast traveled to Dawnstar, talked to the auction master and asked him to sell my slave. He graciously accepted. I then waited ("T") for about 10 hours and a further hour just watching people mill about. The auction started at about 12:15 (if it makes a difference). He sold the first slave (which I completely ignored). He then auctioned off a second slave and, when I had made my second bid on her, the screen faded and I found myself just inside Vlindrel Hall. I went back out and fast traveled back to Dawnstar. The auction master and cage were gone. My slave was standing there and followed me when I asked her to do so. I have no idea what set this off but I just wanted to let you know.

[EinarrTheRed]

Were you in first person when you bid?

 

If I try to bid while in first person I get the same issue, fade to black, I'm back in the last cell I visited (whatever that was) and even if its in the same city the auction is over and everything is gone (except a slave I was selling if that was the case).

 

However, if I go into 3rd person and bid, things work fine.   Weird glitch, 1st person conistently glitches, 3rd person works consistently.

[Psalam]

Yeah, I was in first person. Next auction I'll try third person. 

 

More interesting is that I successfully bought a slave at an auction (in Whiterun) earlier in the game. I don't recall having shifted to third person (I rarely do except to take screenshots) but I may have been.

[WesternWolf]

I figured out the issue with my Papyrus. Thanks for the hint, Musje! Turns out I downloaded Papyrus at the beginning of the playthrough (before the most recent version by about a week) and PAHE, etc. after that point, so there was a version mismatch. All better now, getting my business established in Riften. 

[EinarrTheRed]

8 hours ago, Psalam said:

Yeah, I was in first person. Next auction I'll try third person. 

 

More interesting is that I successfully bought a slave at an auction (in Whiterun) earlier in the game. I don't recall having shifted to third person (I rarely do except to take screenshots) but I may have been.

Will be curious if you confirm my results.  First reported it in this post.

 

 

[Caravan Enforcer]

Hey, I was wondering if there is a version for vanilla Skyrim. Don't have any DLC's and I don't plan to but I would love to use this mod.

[Syridia]

For some reason, when I tell my slaves to turn tricks I'll get the dialogue from other NPCs asking if my slave is free & I can ask people if they want to hire him, but when I accept, they'll just walk over to my slave and both will just stand there with the customer being tagged as busy. I've tried resetai, recycleactor, disable & enable and kill & resurrect commands but nothing changes either of them unless I talk to my slave and tell them to stop bothering the customer. As well as this, whenever an auction starts, everyone will gather in the auction area but after that everyone will be stuck in busy and the auction will never actually start - does anyone know any fixes for these problems?

[roldoi1911]

how do I start this mod? I've installed the requirements, and have only gotten the opinion on slavery dialogues.

[Psalam]

37 minutes ago, roldoi1911 said:

how do I start this mod? I've installed the requirements, and have only gotten the opinion on slavery dialogues.

You don't. As you play PAHE this will affect how you can interact with the world. So, for example, after adequately training your first PAHE slave you can take them to some fine, upstanding citizen (say Belethor) and sell them. Each AYGAS action you take begins to open up other opportunities. When you have sold sufficient slaves in a location slave auctions and pit fights become available there. You can also achieve perks that allow you to prostitute your slaves or use them in pit fights. How many of what things you have to do are listed in the McMenu so that you can follow your progress.

[bigglebojiggle]

19 hours ago, Psalam said:

You don't. As you play PAHE this will affect how you can interact with the world. So, for example, after adequately training your first PAHE slave you can take them to some fine, upstanding citizen (say Belethor) and sell them. Each AYGAS action you take begins to open up other opportunities. When you have sold sufficient slaves in a location slave auctions and pit fights become available there. You can also achieve perks that allow you to prostitute your slaves or use them in pit fights. How many of what things you have to do are listed in the McMenu so that you can follow your progress.

And what if you don't get an MCM like me?

Im pretty sure I have all the requirements installed (not sure the difference between Zaz and Zap though). But I dont get an MCM, or know the training level etc

[gender65]

 

Many thanks to the author for this excellent mod, version 0.57 was very pleased! Everything works, no bugs, thanks! And the fact that the cheat function appeared is generally super !