quest Thief

[Veta]

19 hours ago, GSpaz said:

Hints/Spoilers for the Solitude memory scene added in the extended edition:

 

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You'll need six potions to see all the memory scenes (or at least the ones I've found). There's no order required to these but I put them in what I think is the intended order.

 

1. The initial memory in the alley next to the Winking Skeever

2. Column across the street next to Bits and Pieces

3. Barrel to the left of the entrance to the Winking Skeever

4. Execution block at the entrance of Solitude

5. Doorway to Angeline's Aromatics

6. Secret Achievement Scene

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Behind a bush to the left of Bits and Pieces closest to the market stalls

 

You'll get a quest to get revenge on the guards after watching these scenes. Report to any guard, who will lead you to their captain. He asks you to find evidence. If you go to Evette San's house across from Proudspire Manor, when you interact with the door your PC will knock and be let in. You'll get various options here, but eventually you'll go back to the captain, who wants you to pick the offending guards out of a lineup.

 

Here are the right choices if you can't remember who they are:

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Third one from the left and second one from the right.

You'll get a small compensation and then you can see them later in a prison cell. I don't know if there's anything else here afterward.

 

If you get them wrong:

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Choose anyone and you'll get a few scenes where the captain will throw both you and your witness into jail with a few extra friends, and some variation depending on your choice. You'll be let out after a few days.

 

Then that's the end of the quest. I'd be interested to know if there's anything I missed, as I didn't search around much near the end/after the quest.

 

I also am getting a bug with the smelter memory in Markarth. After interacting with the orb it doesn't load the scene properly, so if it's day then it will stay day, and will put the PC into a drunk animation near the smelter but won't load the two miners, making the scene impossible to continue. I shouldn't have anything conflicting with Markarth but I'll keep checking. I'm also using the last translation/quest vars, etc. with the extended edition, so maybe that broke it?

 

 

 

 

Try this with the Miners memory potion in the smelter,

  you can use the command setpqv dft_congif sys_debugmode 1 then go to the Thief MCM menu in the Debug section you can allow saving mid-scene, then save in the same spot and reload that save ,this fixes a lot of the scene stop issues for me ( those saves are burnt and you shouldn't use them any more other than just to access scenes )

[lese8]

34 minutes ago, kakaer said:

I have explained it few posts ago.

Just my understand from the posts, I have to return to the first day that PC worked in mast, then she will approach PC without any other requirement?

[kakaer]

14 minutes ago, lese8 said:

Just my understand from the posts, I have to return to the first day that PC worked in mast, then she will approach PC without any other requirement?

That's how I got it. Not even work, just go there.

[Mez558]

Not sure if this is a "bug" with my game or with the mod... It's not a new scene so no spoilers

 

When asking Toris about how much you can make at the Mast, if you don't sit on the bed Toris will eventually appear to give you the option of being able to return at a later time and just sit on the bed,

 

Toris: Not interested?  Suit yourself.  If you decide to give it a try, you know what to do.

 

Which I assume would just mean you skip the intro scene.

However what at that point it appears you're stuck. Cannot leave the Mast (gate/Min is not active) even with using TCL.

And also, now sitting on the bed gives the dialogue

 

(I have more self-respect than this...)

 

I suspect I can bodge that by increasing karma in console but shouldn't need to.

I'm thinking it's more likely that this branch was never completed and so is just a dead end. I've never come across it before but I've never tried to walk away before.

[geraldofrivia]

6 hours ago, kakaer said:

Just a heads up. If you are using Simply Knock it will affect your extended version playthrough. Yet another mod to the compatibility list.

With Simply knock you can use the "Unlock" option then the knock scene start normally.

[gspaz]

6 hours ago, Veta said:

 

 

 

Try this with the Miners memory potion in the smelter,

  you can use the command setpqv dft_congif sys_debugmode 1 then go to the Thief MCM menu in the Debug section you can allow saving mid-scene, then save in the same spot and reload that save ,this fixes a lot of the scene stop issues for me ( those saves are burnt and you shouldn't use them any more other than just to access scenes )

 

Unfortunately this doesn’t work, though maybe @Highborn should give this a try for confirmation. I remembered seeing your suggestion before but it likely only fixes problems relating to pathing or something. In this case it appears like the scene doesn’t actually fully load: Instead of the usual fade to black to set everything up it’s more like a flicker into an incomplete scene. Saving after the scene fails to load in the first place would just result in another failed scene.

 

I believe this is new to this edition, since even in the beta the scene at least progressed enough to have the miners approach the drunk PC by the smelter.

[Veta]

3 minutes ago, GSpaz said:

 

Unfortunately this doesn’t work, though maybe @Highborn should give this a try for confirmation. I remembered seeing your suggestion before but it likely only fixes problems relating to pathing or something. In this case it appears like the scene doesn’t actually fully load: Instead of the usual fade to black to set everything up it’s more like a flicker into an incomplete scene. I expect saving after the scene fails to load in the first place would just result in another failed scene.

Have you tried removing the Fade to Black completely ?
Also are you trying from the same save ? Sometimes when I found an issue going back a bit and progressing differently  ?

[Pupkin]

do I understand correctly that I need to choose between getting an extended scene with Cooli at Madam Petit or getting arrested during the same scene? The difference is if I have asked anyone about Thief?

[gspaz]

15 minutes ago, Veta said:

Have you tried removing the Fade to Black completely ?
Also are you trying from the same save ? Sometimes when I found an issue going back a bit and progressing differently  ?

 

I have not tried removing fade to black, but I have tried numerous saves, including several where I just booked it as fast as possible from various points after the V1.1 skip to lessen any chances of stray scripts and then just in case manually increasing lust var. No luck so far. I’ve tried manually enabling the memory orb earlier on but it requires the getting drunk with marsus condition/“quest” to be done and I wouldn’t be surprised if manually setting that would break a bunch of things as well.  

[Highborn]

11 minutes ago, Pupkin said:

do I understand correctly that I need to choose between getting an extended scene with Cooli at Madam Petit or getting arrested during the same scene? The difference is if I have asked anyone about Thief?

Yes

[bigdog38]

hi anyone know the console command for the ore in leftys mine.

[darthradik]

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I am attempting to unlock the memory scenes for Madam Petit's thugs. When I get to the stable boy scene after paying the thugs off the camera hangs on the scene after it is finished. I tried the debug menu to get rid of fade/out and in but the characters just teleport away and the camera is stuck on the hay bed. Any thoughts?

 

[Highborn]

On 2/28/2021 at 11:46 AM, kakaer said:

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I selected worked many times. She approached me in the hall, she's an orc. I don't know the exact instructions to get this branch, but I haven't really done anything out of ordinary while skipping. She approached after Toris tells us about the remedy. 

 

Btw, if she bests us in a fight, she forces Gaston to put it in PC's ass instead. Nothing else happens, just that the hole changes and Toris uses the ointment on both holes. 

 

I tried again selecting many times working at the Mast and no luck with Erna appearing. Does she appear at the main hall or inside the mast? Before or after the player's nightmare?

[kakaer]

49 minutes ago, Highborn said:

 

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I tried again selecting many times working at the Mast and no luck with Erna appearing. Does she appear at the main hall or inside the mast? Before or after the player's nightmare?

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Main hall, before the nightmare.

 

[lese8]

20 hours ago, kakaer said:

That's how I got it. Not even work, just go there.

I failed. The first time I got to mast, she was not there. The second time I helpped Igna, she was not there.

The third time I arrived mast, the scene started. She never showed up.

Maybe there is some other requirements. Can you tell me what is your arena rank?

[kakaer]

46 minutes ago, lese8 said:

I failed. The first time I got to mast, she was not there. The second time I helpped Igna, she was not there.

The third time I arrived mast, the scene started. She never showed up.

Maybe there is some other requirements. Can you tell me what is your arena rank?

!. Like I said, I literally went to the Mast, Toris told me about the procedure, I was on my way to sleep and she caught me in the main hall. If it's of any help, my skipscene was with Vilgen.

[gspaz]

14 hours ago, bigdog38 said:

hi anyone know the console command for the ore in leftys mine.

It's just regular malachite ore: player.additem 5ACE1 [insert desired amount no brackets]

 

12 hours ago, Highborn said:

 

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I tried again selecting many times working at the Mast and no luck with Erna appearing. Does she appear at the main hall or inside the mast? Before or after the player's nightmare?

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Just a second voice: it might be related to activities done after getting the information from Toris or just a random amount of time afterward. I slept, went to the arena/training areas, worked at the Squeaky Mast, and by the time the show was ready I had met Erna as well as Glaum, making the alternate show scene available.

9 hours ago, lese8 said:

I failed. The first time I got to mast, she was not there. The second time I helpped Igna, she was not there.

The third time I arrived mast, the scene started. She never showed up.

Maybe there is some other requirements. Can you tell me what is your arena rank?

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Erna will intercept you at the Main Hall to warn you to stay away from her man sometime after talking to Toris about the ointment. Arena rank, skipscene (I got Burd) etc. doesn't seem to matter.

 

 

[brewmasterhal]

Regarding Erna:  @lese8 @Highborn @kakaer

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Dogma mentioned having worked in the Mast three distinct times (i.e. not three blocks of time, but on three separate days presumably - either of the Skip options other than "once more" will suffice for this requirement) in the initial post for v1.1.0 - for me she only appeared after I had agreed to help Toris with his donkey show in the basement and gotten as far as putting up posters.  This makes sense, as after her initial appearance she only re-appears during the lead-up to the donkey show itself.

 

I got to play around with the new version a little bit on Friday night, but not much.  Spent the last four days driving.  I have my machine set up on a temporary basis now, so I will be able to do a little bit of work, but things are going to be weird for me probably for the entirety of March.  I'll keep you guys posted.

[Highborn]

14 minutes ago, brewmasterhal said:

Regarding Erna:  @lese8 @Highborn @kakaer

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Dogma mentioned having worked in the Mast three distinct times (i.e. not three blocks of time, but on three separate days presumably - either of the Skip options other than "once more" will suffice for this requirement) in the initial post for v1.1.0 - for me she only appeared after I had agreed to help Toris with his donkey show in the basement and gotten as far as putting up posters.  This makes sense, as after her initial appearance she only re-appears during the lead-up to the donkey show itself.

 

I got to play around with the new version a little bit on Friday night, but not much.  Spent the last four days driving.  I have my machine set up on a temporary basis now, so I will be able to do a little bit of work, but things are going to be weird for me probably for the entirety of March.  I'll keep you guys posted.

I talked with Dogma and he said that if you decide to skip, you need to select the option where you tried many times, then still work one more time after you spawn at the Skunkway. I did that and it worked, she appeared at the hall. Even if Toris 'soft' greet you to come have the talk at his counter, ignore him and go work to fulfill the requirement. Then talk to Toris, have the whole conversation at the basement, and then she should appear at the hall.

[lese8]

10 hours ago, Highborn said:

 

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I talked with Dogma and he said that if you decide to skip, you need to select the option where you tried many times, then still work one more time after you spawn at the Skunkway. I did that and it worked, she appeared at the hall. Even if Toris 'soft' greet you to come have the talk at his counter, ignore him and go work to fulfill the requirement. Then talk to Toris, have the whole conversation at the basement, and then she should appear at the hall.

yes, it worked.

[Mez558]

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Does anyone know where to place the posters to get wealthier spectators?
I forced it in console with setpqv hp_sw_brot RichShowGuestList_var 100 which added the dialogue of Ormax attentending with money but Toris still said that it wasn't enough.

I had previously been trying things like buying Runa's contract a day before the show. Paying for Endurance Training with Ormax and splitting winnings with Bromir but it would appear to be solely down to post placement.

 

[kakaer]

Compiled list of scenes I got across:

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Skunkway:

 

Fisting with Toris

Offscreen scene with Glum

Blowjob/ball sucking with the horse

One of those three: Anal with the horse, vaginal with the horse or a role swap eith Erna

Last one gives one more fisting scene with Toris

Cowgirl with Dran, with 3 choices of finish (inside, mouth, face) with an option to visit him at night

 

Solitude: 

 

A chain of scenes with memory potions described earlier in the thread

Cowgirl and oral with the witness

3 options based on our actions in the cell: 

- if we give up peacefully, PC gets spitroasted

- if we resist but lose, PC is tied to a chair and raped

- if we win the brawl, PC uses the prisoners as her servants (no sex scene) 

 

If I missed anything, it's probably hidden. 

 

[Highborn]

40 minutes ago, kakaer said:

Compiled list of scenes I got across:

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Skunkway:

 

Fisting with Toris

Offscreen scene with Glum

Blowjob/ball sucking with the horse

One of those three: Anal with the horse, vaginal with the horse or a role swap eith Erna

Last one gives one more fisting scene with Toris

Cowgirl with Dran, with 3 choices of finish (inside, mouth, face) with an option to visit him at night

 

Solitude: 

 

A chain of scenes with memory potions described earlier in the thread

Cowgirl and oral with the witness

3 options based on our actions in the cell: 

- if we give up peacefully, PC gets spitroasted

- if we resist but lose, PC is tied to a chair and raped

- if we win the brawl, PC uses the prisoners as her servants (no sex scene) 

 

If I missed anything, it's probably hidden. 

 

There is also a small scene with Burd watching the player and Dran, if you happen to have sex with Dran at night at the same day Burd is supposed to come visit you at night after you kill Nazir.

[theliddtin]

1 hour ago, Highborn said:

 

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There is also a small scene with Burd watching the player and Dran, if you happen to have sex with Dran at night at the same day Burd is supposed to come visit you at night after you kill Nazir.

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How do you visit Dran at night? It's not possible to visit the Squeaky Mast once it's night, and working until night doesn't seem to unlock any options for me.

 

Is there a particular space you're supposed to stand on or interact with? Waiting a few days after the Show doesn't seem to change anything.

 

[Highborn]

1 hour ago, theliddtin said:

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How do you visit Dran at night? It's not possible to visit the Squeaky Mast once it's night, and working until night doesn't seem to unlock any options for me.

 

Is there a particular space you're supposed to stand on or interact with? Waiting a few days after the Show doesn't seem to change anything.

 

You can't hit the button during the sex with him, so you have to wait the timer to pass. If you interrupt the sex, he won't offer to stay the night.

 

And also, currently it won't work if you select the option to let him cum inside your character. Dogma confirmed it's a bug that he needs to fix. I selected to finish in her mouth and then during the blowjob you just have to let all the timer fades, and in the end he will say that you can visit him at night. And yeah, you have to work at the mast until evening and sleep there.