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Hi.
Since the beggining of my modding I was trying to replicate the playstyle of a weak girl in Skyrim. One that can TRY to fight and TRY to get by, but ultimately is limited by her own body. One that would need to use companions and escort to move from town to town, one that could get rich only by trading, marriage, stealing or prostitution. One that cannot use many armors and weapons, only those light and small ones.
I need mods that would restrict power of my character and emulate the limitation of such a weak girl. Currently, balancing this is a nightmare. Trading and diplomacy are very limited, and my power level rises above anything acceptable after, say, level 15. 

I use Sex lab framework, SD, cursed loot and many more loverslab inventions, and to restrict difficulty i use dynamic difficulty, but I still lack something.

Can you help me build a modlist to create such a playstyle?

I attach my load order below, a bit messy but works.

loadorder.txt

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That helps big time already. But how about full experience? You know, emulating the life as a uncapable, but maybe respected and cute female in Skyrim, even outside of slavery?
I searched the forums, and there doesn't seem to be comprehensive topic focused on this.

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Well, the goal is to make game mechanics restrict you. You could also not take off restraints and pretend they're locked, but that wouldn't be much fun now, would it?
I want to struggle and take advantage of everything available to my character, and still barely fail and must ask men for help.

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What you need is a mod to reduce your base weight carrying capacity (300) to something like 100 and something that adds an effect that reduces the skill levels/damage or both of weapon skills. This would restrict you to only clothing and daggers or bows and with the above effects, they wouldn't be all that effective.

 

You are going to have to accept some improvement from your magic skills. Healing followers and such.

 

It's similar to playing a healer in the early days of WoW beffore the spellpower and dual-spec patches. Your character was useless for anything but healing and you developed a purified loathing of DPS classes, particularly warlocks and hunters.

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I typically try and play with less violence more stealth, trying to avoid enslavement etc. a rl simulator... creating different failure conditions vs death/Resurrection. 

 

I do it by setting difficulty to max, then adding mods that increase damage so you'll fall, defeated within one or two hits. Typically you'll have to get used to running lots, and sneaking about, timidly at times. 

 

Defeat, Simple Slavery, Sanguine Debauchery; many of the new combat mods at nexus; High Level Enemies, so everything stays dangerous throughout.. Death Alternative, with the right settings will throw you in prison, or enslavement, often robbing you of everything when you fail... if you have a Needs Disease mod, you'll need to find food, etc, so you need to find money or steal.. Schooma Whore adds dimension where you'll get into tough situations that make things even worse, if you don't try your best to escape. Often these effects will have lasting debuffs. Add Frostfall.. you'll really need to stay on the ball when robbed of all your clothes and supplies. 

 

Basically, you'll want mods that mix up such a deep complexity that the game becomes entirely Emergent vs Scripted.. like a survival simulator. 

 

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Easy answer is... install Requiem. It removes the level scaling for the game and basically make you, and everyone else, into glass cannons. It also makes many things nearly useless withouth the right skills. Then combine that with iNeed with follower needs set ON so you have to basically pay your companions. Sexist guards with follower comments on will complete it.

 

I started out with 2 levels of alchemy and one level of restoration (requiem gives you 3 starting skills for free), intending to roleplay as the apprentice of a healer who set out into the world for adventure, but I'll be honest, it just got too tough.

The thing about Requiem is though that as it removes the leveled system it also has the opposite effect. If you level up to level 50 you will swat normal bandits away, and they won't get any tougher, but for the first few levels at least the mod provides A LOT of challange and that feeling of helplessness you are looking for. I didn't make a single kill myself until a wolf at level 3, since my character was abysmal at combat. Meanwhile I would get killed by a single arrow, or a hit from an axe.

 

Edit: It also restrict your use of heavy armour until you get the perk for it by making it drain stamina, and stamina is VERY important i requiem. It does a lot of things. 

Brodual have an (not updated) guide, but you'll need to check out more recent information as well: 

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All good suggestions so far. There are a few mods out there that de-level the game. I could never get Requiem working with my long list of mods so I avoid that. I like "Lore Friendly Starting Stats and Encumbrance" on from the Nexus for lowering my carry weight. Female Bretons start at 50, which essentially rules out much armor and any weapons other than a dagger. 

 

The easiest way is to role-play a weak character. Make rules for your character that you abide by. Maybe your character is a prostitute with an interest in alchemy. Someone like that would devote her perks to Speech and Alchemy... not very useful in combat. If you like the more, uhhh, pervy mods? Beastial Essence would fit nicely for a character like that.

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Easiest thing, don't level up and stay at 1.

 

That will also have the unwanted effect of your followers staying lvl 1.

 

I actually do this for nearly all my games now, perma lvl 1 character.

Followers levels and stats could be adjust using CK, I usually have to tone them down to match PC's level.

 

It really isn't a complete solution tho, for whatever reason the over world level of enemies are still the weakest variant every where you go despite any sort of easy/medium/hard level zoning that I have tried. Dungeons could get hard as fuck, but over world are still mostly wolves and level 1 bandits with the exception of bears, tigers, and trolls.

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Use the console to set player level to a high number eg: player.setlevel 50. While your hp, mp, stp, skills and perks are the same, the world levels to player level you set so you should be plenty weak while still being able to level up your skills.

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The SkyTweak mod might help with a lot of the skill level / character level suggestions, and it also has a setting for Easy / Medium / Hard / Very Hard zones and how much stronger / weaker the NPCs are compared to your character level.   Set everything at 5 and the levels of the mobs are gonna be higher.  Can also set how much more HP NPCs have, but I don't konw if that affects followers or not.

 

One thing you might try is using the console, or some other method, and push a skill to 100 a time or two, (SkyTweak has an option to set what the legendary restart level is) and artifically increase your character level, then use Tweak to wipe out the perk points. At least your followers will be stronger than you are.

 

Another thing that comes to mind... use Aroused and CK edit the "horny" debuff spells to all give the same (or higher) debuff to skill increases. Set whatever armor or robes you use to Revealing and your character to exhibitionist.

 

This may all mean you only get skill increases through trainers. That may or may not be what you want.  If not, I have a few other suggestions on that front.

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Ain't this the dam truth though? The game will always play the same we need a totally new land to start in and do something totally different where you start out as a dumb whore and work your way up to something better or just continue to get passed around by the townsfolk somewhere.

 

We need...

 

New land not in skyrim somewhere else either skyrim like world or totally new future world etc.

 

New quests centered around adult stuff none of this radiant dungeon clearing crap. Maria eden is go for whoring out and handling outfits maybe tie it in to that somehow?

 

We have already many mods that handle sexual fame etc.

 

We need more immersive slavery mods, SD is good but there is no depth to it. We need some saucy dialogues based on who the owner npc is and the slavery scene depending on owner needs to be really good not just three or four canned responses. The player needs to be led around by the owner npc not the other way around like in oblivion mods.

 

Sex in this game is incredibly boring unless you have a bunch of script heavy popular mods running together and that just crashes things a lot. We need something simple and immersive with many dialogues and certain slavery quests that are more in depth like slave for money be a slave for a limited time and get paid after owner collects from customers at a party or be a slave to help poors out or be a whore to help poors out at the local inn. Certain npcs that the player might like to be owned by could offer to buy the player from poors and poors get helped out more and player gets sexy owner. I don't even have to try to think of this stuff it just doesn't exist that way I dunno why.

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I don't even have to try to think of this stuff it just doesn't exist that way I dunno why.

Simple answer: because you didn't do it. Appearently you know a way to magically do all this stuff without heavy scripts, nobody else knows, though.

 

For weakness: I don't use any mods which make the game harder in generall like requiem, but i have a lot of mods that do debuffs for different cases, and well... i'm feeling quite weak most of the time. ;)

Those are especially RND and wear&tear from apropos, and MME + FillHerUp (slow down). Not sure if i should add weightmorphs, but imho it plays amazingly well with RND, making you fat for eating and slim for running it's a quite immersive way to prevent me from fast travaling too much. It has options to reduce speed and stamina as well for beeing too fat/slim either, but only one of them, the other side will give you buffs then.

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FYI. It is quite possible to set the Uncapper in a way that you'll never gain any XP for improving your skills, which means that you'll always stay as a level 1 character, and also you will never gain any points to increase your health/magicka/stamina/carryweight, but you'll still be able improve your skills. You can also make it more difficult to improve our skills.

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Just spotted this, it may be what you're looking for http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3350-anotherchallenge/

 

500 days respawning time, I imagine that would fuck up your save.

 

 

Yeah, there's a couple things I don't like in it, that's one of them and I'm not keen on the archery changes. Probably would be easy to change with CK though.

 

I flagged it up more for ideas, as a large part of it can be done using the console to change skill levels and points etc

 

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Just spotted this, it may be what you're looking for http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3350-anotherchallenge/

 

500 days respawning time, I imagine that would fuck up your save.

 

 

Yeah, there's a couple things I don't like in it, that's one of them and I'm not keen on the archery changes. Probably would be easy to change with CK though.

 

I flagged it up more for ideas, as a large part of it can be done using the console to change skill levels and points etc

 

 

 

You could try changing the respawn time from the bashed patch, there is a tweak there, unless the mod changes it by script or something.

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I love the idea of RPing a helpless character. I'd love a much more dynamic slavery system, with better AI for masters/mistresses. I know there's mods that let you be sold at auction, which is hot as hell, but then once you're owned it's all very monotonous and dull. I'd love someone to make a follower that is your master/mistress with a ton of interactions and custom dialog. Someone that forces you to follow them while they go on adventures, and actually talks to you instead of ignore you until they want to fuck. You should be able to tweak options in the MCM to set how cruel or kind they are, how restrictive or abusive they are, etc. God, I'd love that so much.

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I love the idea of RPing a helpless character. I'd love a much more dynamic slavery system, with better AI for masters/mistresses. I know there's mods that let you be sold at auction, which is hot as hell, but then once you're owned it's all very monotonous and dull. I'd love someone to make a follower that is your master/mistress with a ton of interactions and custom dialog. Someone that forces you to follow them while they go on adventures, and actually talks to you instead of ignore you until they want to fuck. You should be able to tweak options in the MCM to set how cruel or kind they are, how restrictive or abusive they are, etc. God, I'd love that so much.

There are some W.I.P mods working on what you wish, one of them is "Master gets a job", can't remember the other one right now... if you have some ideas or even dialogues to suggest, some modders might be happy to implement them. :)

 

*edit: I believe http://www.loverslab.com/topic/65524-devious-framework/ was the other one i'm thinking about.

And of course there's the new Maria Eden, which has some incompatibilities, though. I didn't really try it yet. But the announced feature that you can be a slave of the Kahjit caravans sounds like you might like it. ;)

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