Devious Framework (DFW)

[coffeeink]

Hey, i reloaded this old mod and i was feeling it has something missing with the Leash Game so i added some new things to it.

Only roughly tested but it works for me (on SE)

 

During the Leash game is now an additional Ingamebased Timer (default 2 h)

After this cooldown you have a chance to get an additional device equiped (default 20%) or the Leash holder wants to have some fun with you (default 25%).

The equipment is progessive => Armcuffs, Legcuffs -> Collar ... until you are fully equiped.

There is also a debug Key (default F10) which equips the next Item. The Debug key is usefull if you do not like the random selcted device, so just remove it (for example with the debug actions from another mod) and press the Debug Key again.

 

All Settings are just global vars. so you can balance it as you want

/Edit: Forgot to mention: The patch is for DD5.0 + only due the usage of the new Random device mechanic

 

DFWS_Patch.zip

[jc321]

Is this a patch to the 2.06 version on the 1st page or the 3.02 on page 29 in this thread?

Reason for asking is that the dfwsupport.esp is substantially smaller so not sure if I'm removing other content.

 

Great that you have looked into improving this. Still a great favourite of mine!

 

[Baltasarr80]

Im using this version in SSE (CAO port) yesterday evening 2.06but my leashgame didnt work at all ... The leash didnt support or trigger the ai support so that my charakter got yanked from the carriagedriver at whiterun until elviras workshop. Shouldnt the ai take over if ai support is activated?

 

Is legume planning on reviving this mod or is it more like unconciius in the Water and in danger of drowning?

[YojimboRatchet]

hasn't been an update for a while. on a different note. i have been using 3.02 on SE for over 6 months without major issues. for the most part it works without issues. there are some annoyances i've noticed but not any game breaking ones. i don't use DD5, only 4.3. so i cannot answer how this will behave with DD5 at all.

 

i hope though Legume or someone comes along to fix / update 3.02 to a more stable and consistent behaviour.

[Baltasarr80]

Where is this 3.02 version for Devious framework? I find only this one

[jc321]

4 hours ago, Baltasarr80 said:

Where is this 3.02 version for Devious framework? I find only this one

 

page 29

[YojimboRatchet]

4 hours ago, Baltasarr80 said:

Where is this 3.02 version for Devious framework? I find only this one

 

see page 29

[Baltasarr80]

Ok than i will try it later when im not in break and test it with my version in sse. I am using DD 5.0 right now so i will see what would happen in SE and with DD 5.0

[YojimboRatchet]

2 hours ago, Baltasarr80 said:

Ok than i will try it later when im not in break and test it with my version in sse. I am using DD 5.0 right now so i will see what would happen in SE and with DD 5.0

 

good luck. i haven't upgraded to DD5 as of yet, so i have no idea how well it would behave at all, or if it will even work. i hope it does.

[Baltasarr80]

What i am definitily missing is that your slaver just walks up and down (thats what he did with me nothing else and what i thought would happen right at the beginning would be that he at least would collar me but nope hethreatens to gag me but just yanks the leash and nothing more. well i will try it again ;-). But it at the very least works with sse and DD 5.0 SE

[jc321]

Check the settings and make sure you do a force MCM upgrade in both the framework and DFWS (which should be found within the MCMs - there's 2).

 

You should get additional restraints, removal of weapons, being taken to a shop to sell all your stuff, and sometimes taken to blacksmith (if already wearing devices) to have them removed as well as periodically being solicited.  You can also get 'kept' where you are forced to crawl, kneel etc.. and you have hotkeys to change those positions

 

There should be content for being put in different furnitures and being forced to make items (if you have sufficient skill) - The code appears to be there but sadly never been able to experience it.

 

Depending on the follower does seem to affect which bits are triggered, I'm trying it with DD5.0, and whilst having seen all the above yet, it appears to be working as with DD4.x

[Baltasarr80]

Good to know thanks

[YojimboRatchet]

actually, that's one of the things that glitches a bit in 3.02.

 

IF you have no restraints on at the time you are "lasso'd", the slaver will talk with you, threaten you, and walk up to you and look at you and walk away. you will never get restrained at all. it's missing something in the code for this to initialize properly in this one specific scenario.

 

IF you have any type of restraint, doesn't matter what it is, then you'll start getting restraints added one by one.

 

the one annoying thing i found is the sex proposition. it makes no sense when the other slaver or the slave in your "chain gang" walks up to the slaver and asks if they can buy sex with the PC lol. but it's a minor annoyance.

 

 

[Baltasarr80]

Well that is something i can look over... i mean the slaver says that he wants to train me to be a good slave soooo if someone walks up to him .... i can work with that because i am HIS/HER property and he or she can do whatever he/she wants. But yeah ... i Think it would be realistic if he throws the leash around your neck the leashcollar should be equipped and from there you should get the nessecary collars or devious items

[junky1234]

For some reason the security funtion in DFW MC doesn't work on the latest "update".

[Steone]

If someone has updated this to SSE, can you upload it here?

[Lekefeno]

will there be any other update a glitch fixing at this point or the mod is abandonned ? 

[YojimboRatchet]

has anyone tried using this with DD5 at all ?

[Baltasarr80]

dd5 yes dd5.1 no

[Crota]

I am unsure how to flag armors as seductive. I see no options in DFW or DFW Support.

[Pyreliter]

1 hour ago, Crota said:

I am unsure how to flag armors as seductive. I see no options in DFW or DFW Support.

I use Sexlab Aroused Redux
bottom of it's MCM

Edited August 16, 2021 by Pyreliter
Not sure if the Sexlab Aroused eXtended version is a better suggestion for your inquiry, check out both mods.

[LaRem.]

On 9/6/2019 at 4:27 PM, arbiter said:

Alright, so I've made some headway towards combining the SD+ leash functionality. If you detect SD+ but don't "start" the leash game with the option it should start the leash game when your owner actually decides to take you for a walk. That takes forever with SD+ and is totally random so IDK, it prolly maybe works.

 

If you do "start" the leash game you will be leashed in SD+ (and you can stop it as well). No running 45 miles away from your master, you actually have to stay nearby and deal with them. Pretty cool. Might want to set it on follow leash first in the main Devious Framework MCM or else you'll be rubberbanded into a bar or something. 

 

Some of the time the follow leash made me run back to them (when I started with Immerslave as an SD+ slave I would run back towards them). Some of the time (when I got leashed through the new dialogue system, which is kinda working now) I fell down and the master (mistress) just ran back to me. Not real happy with the Mistress running back to me, but whatever. Might have been the AI package or the area or the alignment of the fucking stars, IDK.

 

The dialogue system is slightly less fucked than originally (it wasn't in a working state). When you try to suddenly say "oh nevermind" you generally have an 80 percent chance of them still getting aggro (that was the original intent). The people you talk to are far more likely to take you and lead to something in dialogue (other than the 20% unlucky you randomly get). And now instead of nothing happening no matter what, I've plugged the final few dialogue paths into you getting collared. This COULD BREAK LOTS OF THINGS. Don't do it when you're already collared. Don't do it to a quest NPC. Etc. There are no real failsafes here. You'd better be wanting to get collared to this person. 

 

And the dialogue is still almost definitely screwed sideways. Just now there is a path towards getting dommed. Good luck!

 

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Don't use on a real save. 

 

This is for testing.

 

This is not for SSE, I can't help you there.

 

Any testing results are helpful. @donttouchmethere and @JocienMontrose (and others) have already been extremely helpful!

 

For all I know I borked the upload. Beware! There be dragons here.

 

All-in-one (with 2 esps still), don't use with old versions or patches in the thread (they're all incorporated). 

 

Test on a new game if you can, if not, well, that's cool too.

 

Devious Framework 3.02alpha.zip 918.48 kB · 441 downloads

Dear author, when will you post the update?

[gollum007]

Small patch to the V3 version of DFW attached.

 

For some reason, in my game it failed to assign the default ZAD libs reference correctly (I suspect load order related).

That then causes all scenes to fail, as it dumps out in the busy check.

 

This patch sorts that, by deliberately assigning that from the appropriate form from ZAZ / DD.

 

 

Other observations:

• The pose toggle keys are not bound by default, although the MCM suggests they are- Assigning them manually works. This should be patchable without too much trouble.
• The V3 definitely includes the follow leash.
• The patch from @coffeeink above is for the 2.06 version of DFW.

 

DFW 3 Patch.zip

[DonQuiWho]

51 minutes ago, gollum007 said:

Small patch to the V3 version of DFW attached.

 

For some reason, in my game it failed to assign the default ZAD libs reference correctly (I suspect load order related).

That then causes all scenes to fail, as it dumps out in the busy check.

 

This patch sorts that, by deliberately assigning that from the appropriate form from ZAZ / DD.

 

 

Other observations:

• The pose toggle keys are not bound by default, although the MCM suggests they are- Assigning them manually works. This should be patchable without too much trouble.
• The V3 definitely includes the follow leash.
• The patch from @coffeeink above is for the 2.06 version of DFW.

 

DFW 3 Patch.zip 6.63 kB · 0 downloads

 

Thanks.  This mod had so much promise but the yanky bit was so janky ....

 

Anyway, where is this 'V3' to which you refer, and does it work on SSE?  I could be tempted ....

[jc321]

14 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

Anyway, where is this 'V3' to which you refer, and does it work on SSE?  I could be tempted .

Page 29 but it's for LE (never tried it on SSE myself).