Immersive Hair Growth and Styling (YPS Devious & Immersive Fashion 2025-06-08)

[Animonkey]

On 7/30/2023 at 8:29 PM, emily1673 said:

The current story of the Dibella quest implies also that players should not get menstruation or become pregnant, so I will have to disable that functionality of Beeing Female somehow, or add another optional quest or quest branch.

I also second the sentiment to rather have a second quest/branch and would recommend Fertility mode over Beeinfemale, for the same reasons.

On 8/1/2023 at 6:05 PM, SquatsAreLife said:

One suggestion would be an optional quest or quest branch with a few quest stages after the female path finished to have a ritual at Dibella's temple, maybe with the req to join the sisterhood, or a ritual at Mara's temple as Mara is the Goddess of Love and Fertility. Maybe the player wants to become a mother, and/or have a family with her lover.

This, in my opinion, would be a rather appealing choise, maybe have her grow a uterus as consequences of her female hormone implants supplying her with the hormones, the priestesses watching over her so that the process goes without a hitch. Or have them speed up the process with some magic, (maybe having a non functioning one already grown because of her hormones), to have the thing happen as a single event for simplicity's sake.

[MysticDaedra]

Do you think you could add an option for increased hair updates, but not quite as extreme as the "fast update" option currently implemented? It'd be great for hair to be able to update say 4 times a day or something instead of just 1, but updating every 20s definitely seems excessively taxing on the scripting engine. I play with BoS, and have turned off the forced long hair function, but I still RP as my character having massively increased hair growth speed as a bimbo xD

[Balgin]

9 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

but updating every 20s

Frequent hair check is more like every 8 seconds!

[MysticDaedra]

2 hours ago, Balgin said:

Frequent hair check is more like every 8 seconds!

Even worse lol.

[H Bof]

I'm having a little trouble with custom hairstyles not working if there is a space in the name as it shows up in racemenu, is there a way around this?

[Balgin]

2 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

Even worse lol.

It's useful if you tweaked something and need to refresh your hairstyle (such as testing new hair models in racemenu to start writing a yps ini for them) but I wouldn't leave it turned on all the time.

[zittonⅡ]

On 8/2/2023 at 1:11 AM, zittonⅡ said:

实际上，我现在正在测试它，因为我翻译了一些脚本。我已经完成了最新版本的 esp 文档

I have finished it. unfortunately, I realize that if I translate the script documents, my hair will not grow. So I only translate the esp and mcm

yps6.5.3.1.zip

[ArgyleSmith]

Just throwing this out there, with no plea to get it done.

Consider an alternative gender-change quest, perhaps "Brelyna's mistake" where when Brelyna turns the player into a cow, horse, dog, it ends with girl and Brelyna can't figure out how to fix it. Stages of the quest could parallel the Dibella quest in many ways, and it also provides potential for different branches.

Thanks for the mod. Cheers.

[Karkhel]

1 hour ago, ArgyleSmith said:

Just throwing this out there, with no plea to get it done.

Consider an alternative gender-change quest, perhaps "Brelyna's mistake" where when Brelyna turns the player into a cow, horse, dog, it ends with girl and Brelyna can't figure out how to fix it. Stages of the quest could parallel the Dibella quest in many ways, and it also provides potential for different branches.

Thanks for the mod. Cheers.

I could see this as a fun alternative start would just need to bring this branch back to the main one rather fast so its not too much work. Having too many branches would just slow the whole update cycle into a crawl, but I do really like this idea.

[Balgin]

2 hours ago, ArgyleSmith said:

Just throwing this out there, with no plea to get it done.

Consider an alternative gender-change quest, perhaps "Brelyna's mistake" where when Brelyna turns the player into a cow, horse, dog, it ends with girl and Brelyna can't figure out how to fix it. Stages of the quest could parallel the Dibella quest in many ways, and it also provides potential for different branches.

As a more magical transformation that could involve more of a reworking on the inner organs.

[Ash7141]

Hi so i installed the newest update however i still have no option to stay in the bannered mare when i speak with the innkeeper. Am i going to the wrong inn or have i missed something? There is no quest marker either I can only go as far as getting my name changed

Edited August 5, 2023 by Ash7141

[anonymous515]

On 8/4/2023 at 8:58 PM, Ash7141 said:

Hi so i installed the newest update however i still have no option to stay in the bannered mare when i speak with the innkeeper. Am i going to the wrong inn or have i missed something? There is no quest marker either I can only go as far as getting my name changed

 

Try re-loading to an earlier save. If that still doesn't work, uninstall and re-install completely. Don't forget to download the newest texture file (separate from the primary download)

[Ash7141]

9 hours ago, anonymous515 said:

 

Try re-loading to an earlier save. If that still doesn't work, uninstall and re-install completely. Don't forget to download the newest texture file (separate from the primary download)

I've tried that unfortunately it's not worked, uninstalling everything may be difficult as I've manually installed it due to issues with nexus mod manager not installing it properly. I've also restarted the whole quest line on a new save still nothing 

[anonymous515]

1 hour ago, Ash7141 said:

I've tried that unfortunately it's not worked, uninstalling everything may be difficult as I've manually installed it due to issues with nexus mod manager not installing it properly. I've also restarted the whole quest line on a new save still nothing 

 

The new version seems to fix the Nexus Mod Manager problem. You shouldn't lose any progress by initiating a clean re-install. Make sure you're using LE because it seems more reliable than the SE version

[Ash7141]

2 hours ago, anonymous515 said:

 

The new version seems to fix the Nexus Mod Manager problem. You shouldn't lose any progress by initiating a clean re-install. Make sure you're using LE because it seems more reliable than the SE version

I've de installed and re installed but still nothing, I am assuming it is the bannered mare I have to goto and it is Hulda I need to speak to. But it seems neither her or the redguard girl that works there have the option to rent yet all the other inns do?

[SquatsAreLife]

Another suggestion.

 

Since this mod already has so many features I was looking for in my game, one that I'm missing is fashion addiction for clothes based on keywords (e.g. pretty, sexy, designer, girly, fashionable, haute couture). For me personally it doesn't have to go into the "slutty" category, after all it is all about fashion. Devine Elegance Store of course already offers a huge variety. Maybe there is nothing better than wearing a 20,000 Septims unique dress by designer X. It would be a dream come true. After all we have a famous gourmet cook, why not a famous fashion designer?

 

If it is already on the books please ignore this comment.

[TnkQV]

hello. is this in logs for others? 6.5.3.1

 

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[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078
[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp607"
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078
[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078
[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp607"
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078
[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078
[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp607"
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078
[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] Error: Cannot call GetValueInt() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078
[XX/XX/2023 - 02:09:55AM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp607"
stack:
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.CurrentFashionLevel() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4827
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.AdjustAddictionBuff() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 4906
    [YPS01 (4E0073BC)].ypspiercingticker.OnUpdate() - "zlelggxtpbtuuzvqgjusj" Line 6078

 

problem line

 

if (LipstickApplied || (ypsLipstickAddict.GetValueInt() == 0)) && (EyeshadowApplied || (ypsEyeshadowAddict.GetValueInt() == 0)) && ((ToenailPolishStage > 0) ||

(ypsToeNailPolishAddict.GetValueInt() == 0)) && ((NailPolishStage > 0) || (ypsFingerNailPolishAddict.GetValueInt() == 0))

 

not sure why global variable not work. are set in esp.

[emily1673]

On 8/1/2023 at 7:20 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

A speech debuff did always feel a bit out of place for it to me. The way I read the fashion addiction is the PC feeling like she's not beautiful enough- even though she is! She's wearing nylons and highheels and makeup and a pretty dress and earrings and has perfect hair but she still wants more, and that's all she can think about! But to another person, she's still the most gorgeous woman in Tamriel, so her speech skill (a measure of her charisma) should be unaffected.

 

In BoS, I represented that dress-like-a-bimbo (or here, wear-more-makeup) obsession totally dominating her thoughts as a regen penalty, either HP or magicka/stamina. It doesn't totally shut the game down for the player, but if you want to keep playing properly you're basically forced to go give your PC what she wants.

 

And then while she's suffering with her addiction, as a punishment for letting your makeup wear off, maybe a force-apply of any makeup in the inventory? Or the vendors recognise that she's desperate and overcharge her for the makeup she wants so badly? And I'm starting to get a bit BoS here, but maybe she ends up needing to fish for compliments, just to feel pretty enough. Most people are happy to just say "Yes, you're beautiful" and move on but some will see that she's desperate and ask for something in return...

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     I think it'd be fun to have a fully addicted PC start needing to go further to feel beautiful. Dressing pretty isn't enough any more, she needs to be more feminine and pretty. How? Bigger breasts. Maybe the surgeon from the Dibella quest can help. A big round butt is good too. Well, now she feels the need to show off her beauty a bit more with shorter skirts and tighter tops. So on and so forth. And eventually that beautifully elegant woman who was so addicted to fashion now looks like a trashy bimbo, and is finally happy...

 

I feel like YPS's fashion addiction is a princess-ificaiton kind of thing, so that then progressing into a slut-ification appeals to me (unsuprisingly!).

 

Thanks, these are all good suggestions! When doing the fashion addiction revamp, I will try to create an MCM option so players can choose whether they want speech debuff or not.

 

On 8/1/2023 at 3:18 PM, SquatsAreLife said:

Speechcraft ist very important for my character to get things done or avoid things/harm. A speech debuff works perfect for me for fashion addiction. To me it seems people are reacting to the fact that she is not as beautiful/alluring as she was, without makeup, hair style etc, which gave her a speech gain in the first place.

 

In addition to speech debuff, due to her insecurity there could be a magicka debuff, as it a mental skill, or her flirt ability suffers drastically, even though I'm not sure what that could mean. Boyfriend leaves? Can't successfully flirt and get lover?

Fashion already has an impact on flirt success chance, but you make some good suggestions to make the fashion addiction more convincing.

 

On 8/1/2023 at 5:56 PM, Karkhel said:

Honestly speech debuff makes sense to me in that I imagine character stumbling on her words etc because she doesn't feel confident. I never imagined it's how she looks but how she feels about herself and what kind of aura she is projecting in conversation because of it. But more importantly gameplay wise it makes sense because it scales prices, so it might affect player's ways of getting money through trading and push her into less savory ways. But also at least one prostitution mod (don't remember which tbh ) has some of the scaling from speech.

Personally I'm running trade routes so a possible way of earning money outside of combat (either because my character chooses to or is forced to) is being affected. If my character gets hp/magica regen debuff and she is a Bimbo(s of Skyrim LE/SE) and she ends up losing some levels in other skills.

Meanwhile speech debuff will affect "civilian" part the most. Prices of food I have to buy because of RND, if I happen to try to sell over the counter things I don't have licences for the prices are even worse.
I won't say I would stay with the old YPS version because of it, no way, I trust that this mod will have interesting features I wouldn't wanna miss out on but I would turn off the debuff if possible and miss the current implementation.

 

It seems that speech is still the best stat to be affected. But I will try to add more options.

 

On 8/1/2023 at 6:05 PM, Darkwing241 said:

 

I actually don't mind the speech debuff, but there definitely is room for growth in the addiction system.  Brace yourself I'm about to get long winded.

 

+++SNIP+++

 

 

Very good suggestions, thank you! Some of them will fit well into the new "NPC interaction" revamp I am planning.

 

On 8/7/2023 at 5:32 PM, SquatsAreLife said:

Since this mod already has so many features I was looking for in my game, one that I'm missing is fashion addiction for clothes based on keywords (e.g. pretty, sexy, designer, girly, fashionable, haute couture). For me personally it doesn't have to go into the "slutty" category, after all it is all about fashion. Devine Elegance Store of course already offers a huge variety. Maybe there is nothing better than wearing a 20,000 Septims unique dress by designer X. It would be a dream come true. After all we have a famous gourmet cook, why not a famous fashion designer?

Also a very good suggestion, thank you!

[emily1673]

On 8/2/2023 at 5:23 PM, SquatsAreLife said:

I saw a few minor typos and will point them out after my next run through. They didn't matter to me though and I enjoyed the quest so much, I didn't want to pause to write them down. My bet ?

Feel free to point out typos, they are easy to fix.

 

On 8/3/2023 at 10:30 AM, ebbluminous said:

Just had an idea while on the Bimbos thread for a new YPS item - Perfume!

 

A potion that once applied, has an effect on those nearby while it lasts and of course contributes to fashion addiction.

 

Couple of effect ideas:

Raises arousal

Improves Speech

Triggers comments like nail polish does

Small debuff on enemies

I have actually already thought about perfume, just causing a fashion level increase. You ideas are still better though.

 

On 8/3/2023 at 8:23 PM, svavelvinter said:

Or that Lena tricks the PC into SRS and name change.

Who knows, maybe Lena, Urag and Ray have been tricking the PC all the time ?

 

On 8/4/2023 at 7:37 AM, MysticDaedra said:

Even worse lol.

"Frequent hair check" means once per ticker interval, which can be set in MCM (standard is 8 secs, I think)

 

On 8/4/2023 at 10:06 PM, ArgyleSmith said:

Consider an alternative gender-change quest, perhaps "Brelyna's mistake" where when Brelyna turns the player into a cow, horse, dog, it ends with girl and Brelyna can't figure out how to fix it. Stages of the quest could parallel the Dibella quest in many ways, and it also provides potential for different branches.

Very interesting idea. As long as it is easy to implement, it is no problem.

 

On 8/5/2023 at 3:58 AM, Ash7141 said:

Hi so i installed the newest update however i still have no option to stay in the bannered mare when i speak with the innkeeper. Am i going to the wrong inn or have i missed something? There is no quest marker either I can only go as far as getting my name changed

There is no need to visit the Bannered Mare. Sleeping in any bed should progress the quest at this stage. If it doesn't, the savegame is corrupt (or there is another problem with the installation somewhere).

Edited August 10, 2023 by emily1673

[ebbluminous]

17 minutes ago, emily1673 said:

I have actually already thought about perfume, just causing a fashion level increase. You ideas are still better though.

Do both!

 

Also thought there could be perfumes that affect races differently/has a more powerful affect on certain races.

 

Also... Would it be possible to get a yellow or golden eyeshadow. Would look wonderful on a Redgaurd and go with their golden glitter nails...

[Balgin]

3 hours ago, emily1673 said:

Who knows, maybe Lena, Urag and Ray have been tricking the PC all the time ?

What do you mean maybe? I remember your old posts (although this is the first hint that Urag might be in on it as well).

[emily1673]

14 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

Also... Would it be possible to get a yellow or golden eyeshadow. Would look wonderful on a Redgaurd and go with their golden glitter nails...

That's what the "custom color" eyeshadow is meant for. Color code for yellow is FFFF00, for gold you can try FFD700.

[svavelvinter]

15 hours ago, emily1673 said:

Who knows, maybe Lena, Urag and Ray have been tricking the PC all the time ?

I don't doubt that

But after the talk with Lena about the breast surgery, it feels like the PC themself decide to go through with the gender change. I just think it would be fun to have the option to be tricked into it.

Either way, it's going to be fun to see where the quest ends

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, emily1673 said:

That's what the "custom color" eyeshadow is meant for. Color code for yellow is FFFF00, for gold you can try FFD700.

Thank you I will give it a go. Is there a reference chart somewhere for the colours and hexadecimals?

[excidium93]

Hi! Will the Lite version be updated as well?