Immersive Hair Growth and Styling (YPS Devious & Immersive Fashion 2025-06-08)

[Balgin]

I forgot to mention that one of the mod tweaks (either Monoman's or the other one that's hard to find these days) introduced a small variety of hair growth potions from potion of minor hair growth to potion of extreme hair growth. These allow for a more controlled growth of hair rather than always going extreme then cutting it back again. They are only sold by the hairdressers and cannot be crafted.

[NoirXiaoba]

Not sure if this qualifies, but Bimbos of Skyrim uses yps to keep track of hair colour and length as well as makeup, fingernails, body hair, and Cinderella feet.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

I have noticed since switching to AE and high poly heads that if I turn on the hair options for this mod I get duplicate head parts and in certain places the player character will vanish. This also leaves floating teeth in certain locations as well. 

 

If I turn the hair options off this clears up and stops. 

 

Also I can't get makeup to work with high poly heads, now I may be something wrong here, but I have not found a fix yet. 

 

Good to see you back emily1673

[ebbluminous]

2 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

I have noticed since switching to AE and high poly heads that if I turn on the hair options for this mod I get duplicate head parts and in certain places the player character will vanish. This also leaves floating teeth in certain locations as well. 

 

If I turn the hair options off this clears up and stops. 

 

Also I can't get makeup to work with high poly heads, now I may be something wrong here, but I have not found a fix yet. 

 

Good to see you back emily1673

Are you using the files on this threas or the SE thread?

[emily1673]

18 hours ago, Ambre66 said:

Hello. Wondering is there a way to make YPS take control of hair changes induced by Naked Defeat and Naked Dungeons ?

 

It's rather the other way round: Other mods can use YPS mod events to let YPS control hairgrowth.

[Alis_999]

@emily1673 

Hey! I don't understand, something wrong with "Well Fashioned" buff for me. I turned off head hair control and don't using neylons, but doing every other features (Lipstick, Eyeshadow, Figers and Toes Nails, Pubic and Armpit Hairs, Highheels). When i completed every feature at the first time which was turn on, my first buff was is "Prettiest Woman in the Hold". But for some reason this buff decreased over time, despite the fact that i continue to make the all features which was turn on! Mirror shows the same (every part is ok). Right now my buff is "Satisfactory Appearance" in spite of all this: Lipstick made up, Eyeshadow made up, Figers Nails made up, Toes Nais made up, Pubic Hair is shaved, Armpit Hairs is shaved, Highheels equipped. ?‍♀️

Any console command for fix or something please? SE-version if it matters

[Darkwing241]

9 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

@emily1673 

Hey! I don't understand, something wrong with "Well Fashioned" buff for me. I turned off head hair control and don't using neylons, but doing every other features (Lipstick, Eyeshadow, Figers and Toes Nails, Pubic and Armpit Hairs, Highheels). When i completed every feature at the first time which was turn on, my first buff was is "Prettiest Woman in the Hold". But for some reason this buff decreased over time, despite the fact that i continue to make the all features which was turn on! Mirror shows the same (every part is ok). Right now my buff is "Satisfactory Appearance" in spite of all this: Lipstick made up, Eyeshadow made up, Figers Nails made up, Toes Nais made up, Pubic Hair is shaved, Armpit Hairs is shaved, Highheels equipped. ?‍♀️

Any console command for fix or something please? SE-version if it matters

That's working as intended.

 

Fashion features give buffs but using them over time builds fashion addiction.  As addiction increase the buff decreases in size and switches over to a penalty for not using fashion features.

[Alis_999]

4 minutes ago, Darkwing241 said:

That's working as intended.

 

Fashion features give buffs but using them over time builds fashion addiction.  As addiction increase the buff decreases in size and switches over to a penalty for not using fashion features.

What means: "That's working as intended." ? 

I keep doing everything (as i wrote), but the buff decreases (as i wrote), why do i get a debuff if i do everything (as i wrote)?

Edited April 9, 2023 by Alis_999

[ebbluminous]

13 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

What means: "That's working as intended." ? 

I keep doing everything (as i wrote), but the buff decreases (as i wrote), why do i get a debuff if i do everything (as i wrote)?

Working as intended means it has been designed to work this way.

 

As you get more addicted to fashion, the fashion buff decreases so you apply more fashion effects. Eventually, you don't get a buff from them, but a debuff. The way round it is to stop having fashion effects, let the addiction decrease then apply them again. Addictions are not supposed to end well

[Alis_999]

15 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

Working as intended means it has been designed to work this way.

 

As you get more addicted to fashion, the fashion buff decreases so you apply more fashion effects. Eventually, you don't get a buff from them, but a debuff. The way round it is to stop having fashion effects, let the addiction decrease then apply them again. Addictions are not supposed to end well

Strange, it doesn't make sense to me, because in the end, if every part being complete, PC get a debuff "ugliest chaurus in the Tamriel" anyway or something like that. Then, i'm still need conolse command for remove addiction, but i don't know where to find, in "globals" addiction level absent ?‍♀️

Edited April 9, 2023 by Alis_999

[NoirXiaoba]

7 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

Strange, it doesn't make sense to me, because in the end, if every part being complete, PC get a debuff "ugliest beast in the Tamriel" anyway or something like that. Then, i'm still need conolse command for remove addiction, but i don't know where to find, in "globals" addiction level absent 

 

If you don't like the addiction mechanic, you can turn it off in the MCM. You won't get buffs either, though.

[Alis_999]

4 minutes ago, NoirXiaoba said:

If you don't like the addiction mechanic, you can turn it off in the MCM. You won't get buffs either, though.

No, because i need to remove addiction level for start or if i turn off Addiction in option right now, mod gives me permanent speechcraft debuff. Already checked

Edited April 9, 2023 by Alis_999

[emily1673]

5 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

No, because i need to remove addiction level for start or if i turn off Addiction in option right now, mod gives me permanent speechcraft debuff. Already checked

That's because you are already addicted.

This feature is indeed working "as intended", which is the case for most features: first you get some benefits to get you "hooked", but eventually this turns into debuffs for not using the feature.

 

A solution for you:

In MCM set "Addiction Increase Speed" to 0, and "Addiction Decrease Speed" to max. That way the addiction will decrease over time (when you are not wearing fashion for a while).

[Alis_999]

7 minutes ago, emily1673 said:

That's because you are already addicted.

This feature is indeed working "as intended", which is the case for most features: first you get some benefits to get you "hooked", but eventually this turns into debuffs for not using the feature.

 

A solution for you:

In MCM set "Addiction Increase Speed" to 0, and "Addiction Decrease Speed" to max. That way the addiction will decrease over time (when you are not wearing fashion for a while).

Yeah, i understand this way for removing, but no console commands?  

P.S.: for me it would look good and logical debuffs for combat skills, but not for speechcraft, alas, i need speechcraft for my game style and modlist ?

Edited April 9, 2023 by Alis_999

[emily1673]

13 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

Yeah, i understand this way for removing, but no console commands?  

P.S.: for me it would look good and logical debuffs for combat skills, but not for speechcraft, alas, i need speechcraft for my game style and modlist ?

No console command, sorry.

Uninstall -> clean save -> reinstall.

Or, if you are a modder, open the Creationkit, and do a small edit to a script (I can tell you if you want to know)

[Alis_999]

15 minutes ago, emily1673 said:

No console command, sorry.

Uninstall -> clean save -> reinstall.

Or, if you are a modder, open the Creationkit, and do a small edit to a script (I can tell you if you want to know)

No, i sometimes help my friends with mods, but not in the CK part, so i don't know how to edit scripts. But i have a question, if i turn off all Addicted Options like "Earrings Addicition" and leave ONLY "Fingernail Addictions" as turn on, then remove Finger nails from PC, change "Increase" to 0, "Decrease" to 30, will i decrease Addiction Level? But if i stay put on, for example, earrings (as i said, i turn off "Earrings Addicition")

Edited April 9, 2023 by Alis_999

[emily1673]

9 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

If i turn off all Addicted Options like "Earrings Addicition" and leave ONLY "Fingernail Addictions" as turn on, then remove Finger nails from PC, change "Increase" to 0, "Decrease" to 30, will i decrease Addiction Level? But if i stay put on, for example, earrings (as i said, i turn off "Earrings Addicition")

Yes.

However, the addiction decrease is very slow, even at max level. I will post a small update soon and significantly increase the maximum AddictionDecreaseSpeed that can be chosen in MCM.

[Alis_999]

1 minute ago, emily1673 said:

Yes.

However, the addiction decrease is very slow, even at max level. I will post a small update soon and significantly increase the maximum AddictionDecreaseSpeed that can be chosen in MCM.

Ah, this is acceptable, thank you ❤️ 

[Fuzzy_Fox]

14 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

Are you using the files on this threas or the SE thread?

The SE files. 

[Ambre66]

Thanks for your answer. I suppose you do that by editing the scripts of the  other mods you want YPS take control ?

[Arch]

Welcome back Emily hope the last few years were good!  Was super excited to see an update!  Are you also going to update the SE version with the same change for the SE BoS?

[emily1673]

8 hours ago, Ambre66 said:

Thanks for your answer. I suppose you do that by editing the scripts of the  other mods you want YPS take control ?

Yes. Whenever changes to the hair are made in the script, check whether YPS is installed, and then use the YPS modevents instead.

A full list is here:

 

[gborogboro]

On 4/9/2023 at 9:40 AM, Fuzzy_Fox said:

I have noticed since switching to AE and high poly heads that if I turn on the hair options for this mod I get duplicate head parts and in certain places the player character will vanish. This also leaves floating teeth in certain locations as well. 

 

If I turn the hair options off this clears up and stops. 

 

Also I can't get makeup to work with high poly heads, now I may be something wrong here, but I have not found a fix yet. 

 

Good to see you back emily1673

Heyho, the floating Teeth and the invisible bug is a really old story, but i think it is a problem with hdt-smp hair not with yps. In past i made a "light" mod profil to narrow down the issue. I found out, that Vanilla hair and non-psysic hair doesnt have this problem. You may also look into "Faster HDT-SMP" bug section and changelog, because it was a pretty big topic there. I dont have the flying teeth bug anymore, i thought this issue was resolved in 1.49.3: 

[Alis_999]

@emily1673 Hey! I found "YPS01InteractBranchTopic "I need my holes filled." [DIAL:0808A40D]" but NPC's answer "[INFO:0808A40E] Sure. What do you want?" have a two mutually exclusive conditions: "Subject.GetIsSex(Male) <> 1.000000 AND" and "Subject.GetIsSex(Male) = 1.000000 AND". So, i'm curious, did you turn it off on purpose or just forgot? Because i'm sure you know the first condition should look like "PlayerRef [PLYR:00000014].GetIsSex(Female) = 1.000000 AND".  

Edited April 10, 2023 by Alis_999

[robert.marquis]

When I use nail polish, the color of my hands become lighter than the body. Is there a preferred body texture to use to better match the colors?  I am currently using "Demoniac 1.12 for CBBE. 

 

 

EDIT:  I removed "Demoniac 1.12" and the color mismatch is gone.  Not exactly an incompatibility, but it looks better now.

Edited April 11, 2023 by robert.marquis