Deviously Enslaved Continued [2019-11-11]

Violence6884 · November 27, 2016

The way I understand it, either DEC, SD+ or both give the player a Submit/Resist choice. Defeat handles rape scenes pretty smoothly by allowing a struggle to escape. My question is, has this been considered for the Resist option at all? I think I've asked in the past but I feel it's worth bringing it up again. Having to disable options in MCMs is counter intuitive when you want to have immersion and keep your sex options open. Or perhaps tying the Resist option to Defeat's struggle mechanic if Defeat is installed, through an MCM option in whichever mod brings up Submit/Resist? Because right now it's a very bland choice with very little interaction, of either being just raped or raped and enslaved. I am just rooting for a more organic experience and perhaps, reaching a level where it's possible to play the game normally while avoiding rapes ETC, without completely eliminating this element of additional danger. I may be alone in using LoversLab mods in my normal play through but I'm still a person damn it! Lives matter!

Verstort · November 28, 2016

The way I understand it, either DEC, SD+ or both give the player a Submit/Resist choice. Defeat handles rape scenes pretty smoothly by allowing a struggle to escape.

My question is, has this been considered for the Resist option at all? I think I've asked in the past but I feel it's worth bringing it up again. Having to disable options in MCMs is counter intuitive when you want to have immersion and keep your sex options open. Or perhaps tying the Resist option to Defeat's struggle mechanic if Defeat is installed, through an MCM option in whichever mod brings up Submit/Resist? Because right now it's a very bland choice with very little interaction, of either being just raped or raped and enslaved. I am just rooting for a more organic experience and perhaps, reaching a level where it's possible to play the game normally while avoiding rapes ETC, without completely eliminating this element of additional danger. I may be alone in using LoversLab mods in my normal play through but I'm still a person damn it! Lives matter!

I don't recall which mod opens a submit/resist box, I thought it was SD+ and it was when a nearby walking NPC decides to attack you, and that never felt organic because the NPC doesn't change animation or anything, at best you get a notification in the top corner.

You can kick your attacker to force combat, so you can run away or they can fight you. This felt more organic in that it was a choice but you weren't forced into noticing it as an option and was part of the dialogue system. I feel switching to a submit/fight prompt after the rest of the dialogue would clash with the dialogue, and force the player to interact, also messagebox prompts break some immersion for me to some degree.

I never liked the Defeat struggle bar, it never felt properly calibrated and on keyboard hitting two buttons back and forth felt like it didn't match any of skyrim's default gameplay.

I mean if you want to try adding them to DEC to see if it would work well you're welcome to, I'd even add them to the official version if you add a MCM option to turn them on/off for user control.

Testing should be easy:

Almost all dialogue at the end of the attackers dialogue tree calls the same two functions: crdePlayerMonitorScript::doPlayerSex and crdePlayerMonitorScript::attemptEnslavement

Find the code in the mod that has the interface you like, put it in a function as needed and link to the function at the top before sex or enslave starts in those two functions, add some logic to detect the response to the messagebox and if it's resist, start combat instead with crdePlayerMonitorScript::StartCombat

*bicobus* · November 28, 2016

SD+ does have that input. Submit means sexing and resists means stripping, usually. It was put in place to leave the player in control, decide if at that time it's alright to submit and enter the SD+ mechanic.

soulssin · November 28, 2016

So I get this wierd bug where the follower aproches you for a dialog but instead of the sex/ bondage dialog it just starts a normal talk with your follower. This in itself isnt really a problem but the follower then keeps trying to force greet you 3 or 4 times in a row, always starting the normal dialog.

I suspect it is the sex one that isn't working since the Device one shows up every now and then.

Any clue as to what could cause this?

Violence6884 · November 28, 2016

The way I understand it, either DEC, SD+ or both give the player a Submit/Resist choice. Defeat handles rape scenes pretty smoothly by allowing a struggle to escape.

My question is, has this been considered for the Resist option at all? I think I've asked in the past but I feel it's worth bringing it up again. Having to disable options in MCMs is counter intuitive when you want to have immersion and keep your sex options open. Or perhaps tying the Resist option to Defeat's struggle mechanic if Defeat is installed, through an MCM option in whichever mod brings up Submit/Resist? Because right now it's a very bland choice with very little interaction, of either being just raped or raped and enslaved. I am just rooting for a more organic experience and perhaps, reaching a level where it's possible to play the game normally while avoiding rapes ETC, without completely eliminating this element of additional danger. I may be alone in using LoversLab mods in my normal play through but I'm still a person damn it! Lives matter!

I don't recall which mod opens a submit/resist box, I thought it was SD+ and it was when a nearby walking NPC decides to attack you, and that never felt organic because the NPC doesn't change animation or anything, at best you get a notification in the top corner.

You can kick your attacker to force combat, so you can run away or they can fight you. This felt more organic in that it was a choice but you weren't forced into noticing it as an option and was part of the dialogue system. I feel switching to a submit/fight prompt after the rest of the dialogue would clash with the dialogue, and force the player to interact, also messagebox prompts break some immersion for me to some degree.

I never liked the Defeat struggle bar, it never felt properly calibrated and on keyboard hitting two buttons back and forth felt like it didn't match any of skyrim's default gameplay.

I mean if you want to try adding them to DEC to see if it would work well you're welcome to, I'd even add them to the official version if you add a MCM option to turn them on/off for user control.

Testing should be easy:

Almost all dialogue at the end of the attackers dialogue tree calls the same two functions: crdePlayerMonitorScript::doPlayerSex and crdePlayerMonitorScript::attemptEnslavement

Find the code in the mod that has the interface you like, put it in a function as needed and link to the function at the top before sex or enslave starts in those two functions, add some logic to detect the response to the messagebox and if it's resist, start combat instead with crdePlayerMonitorScript::StartCombat

I don't feel having the dialogue show up breaks my immersion. I'd prefer an animation of sorts, that I can stop by attacking the aggressor as you said, but that may be asking for too much.

Currently, attacking the NPC that initiates the Submit/Resist dialogue does nothing - It does not stop sex nor enslavement(Depending on choice). The character will stop attacking and a sex scene always begins after a few seconds, except if you 1 shot the attacker ending it faster than the sex scene can load I guess but that's hardly the same and it's a bit chance based perhaps.

You also speak of a dialogue, but I've yet to see any. All I ever see is "Your aggressor tries to pin you down" or "You are pushed to the ground" and "Your aggressor tries to enslave you". It may be the same thing but you get the point. I can then choose Submit/Resist and that's it, and basically these 2 at least in my set up, only mean Sex/Sex+Slavery, nothing more. And I can't stop that in any way. So I'm curious about the dialogue you mention. Also I've yet to see any actual ways or dialogues for my character to enslave anyone, how is that even done? I've noticed the Player As Dom/Corruption/ETC options in the MCM but I just don't know how to trigger this. Apologies if it's too obvious and I missed it.

Hmm I'm fond of the struggle bar, I like QTE! :$ Go Dead Space!! Yay! Plus I doubt any of the mods on here in fact have much to do with what Skyrim was intended to be ;Ppp So with no offense and with all due respect and love to all these mods, they are already doing what the struggle mechanic does in your opinion. And yet, here we are, using them. Says something, right?

The stuff in the spoiler window are incomprehensible to me, I'll ask a friend of mine to take a look. He had suggested tweaking some mods for personal use, maybe he'll be interested.

Violence6884 · November 28, 2016

SD+ does have that input. Submit means sexing and resists means stripping, usually. It was put in place to leave the player in control, decide if at that time it's alright to submit and enter the SD+ mechanic.

Oh so it's just SD then. Thanks for the clarification. Wait, stripping? For me the options are merely Sex or Sex+Slavery. Also how does that allow for any control? The logic seems flawed. What I would do would be more in the lines of;

NPC decides they will attempt to enslave Player, triggering this dialogue; Player can now either attempt to fight the NPC by choosing "Resist"(Under which condition, should they be defeated by that NPC, they are guaranteed to be enslaved by them instead of killed for example) or "Submit" which should be rather obvious. How is that NOT choice, but having sex or having sex and getting enslaved, somehow is? I can't stop challenging that. What if I don't want to even have sex at that moment, or with that NPC, at all? The current choice does not respect that option.

So unless this works very differently for others than it does for me in my game(Meaning I've installed some weird version or installed it completely wrong), there is very little control. Don't get me wrong here, I don't want to control the experience of being enslaved, once that happens then fine, but before it happens, it feels like the character has no say in getting enslaved or raped or both OUT OF THE BLUE! It's illogical.

One more thing. Has anyone thought about adding to Skyrim the "Power of Boners"? Kk it sounds ridiculous but think about it, perhaps I'm high level and fully geared and still want to have a risk of enslavement ETC- How about even weak creatures or other NPCs get a buff when they are aroused or even potential slavers or masters, especially when they decide to enslave the PC? I mean... If I want to feel a risk of being enslaved by a spider and despite its level increasing according to mine, it's still piss easy to kill, that risk becomes nonexistent and I need to artificially handicap my character and make up a scenario in my mind, which really breaks the experience. If that spider, dog, Human, Orc, any example really, gets buff the more it is aroused or the more it wants to enslave the PC, it would be just right. It would need to be a toggle in the MCM too though, as some people may not like that. Want matching lore? Kk. Sanguine empowers them(Including weak creatures as that would be humiliating) to enslave the DragonBorn. There.

*bicobus* · November 28, 2016

Control wether you get enslaved and locked into SD+ for a while or you just get something less intrusive and get to continue what you were doing. (Sometimes you get sexed, sometimes you get nothing, I don't really know what is going on.)

If you don't like the mechanic, you should go say so on SD+ support topic. But keep in mind that my input maybe flawed and imprecise

Verstort · November 28, 2016

So I get this wierd bug where the follower aproches you for a dialog but instead of the sex/ bondage dialog it just starts a normal talk with your follower. This in itself isnt really a problem but the follower then keeps trying to force greet you 3 or 4 times in a row, always starting the normal dialog.

I suspect it is the sex one that isn't working since the Device one shows up every now and then.

Any clue as to what could cause this?

I have a good idea what could cause it, I'll see about fixing it tonight.

Verstort · November 28, 2016

Currently, attacking the NPC that initiates the Submit/Resist dialogue does nothing - It does not stop sex nor enslavement(Depending on choice). The character will stop attacking and a sex scene always begins after a few seconds, except if you 1 shot the attacker ending it faster than the sex scene can load I guess but that's hardly the same and it's a bit chance based perhaps.

You also speak of a dialogue, but I've yet to see any. All I ever see is "Your aggressor tries to pin you down" or "You are pushed to the ground" and "Your aggressor tries to enslave you". It may be the same thing but you get the point. I can then choose Submit/Resist and that's it, and basically these 2 at least in my set up, only mean Sex/Sex+Slavery, nothing more. And I can't stop that in any way. So I'm curious about the dialogue you mention. Also I've yet to see any actual ways or dialogues for my character to enslave anyone, how is that even done? I've noticed the Player As Dom/Corruption/ETC options in the MCM but I just don't know how to trigger this. Apologies if it's too obvious and I missed it.

The dialogue I was talking about is part of the DEC attack dialogue, but what you're describing isn't DEC at all.

I think you're confusing SD/Defeat/something else with DEC. DEC's dialogue starts when an NPC runs up to you and starts talking to you with regular skyrim dialogue, not a message box.

IE: NPC:"Hey Slave, I require your service"->"I am not a slave!", "My master wouldn't approve of this","Yes sir","Fuck off *tries to kick him*"

The player normally has to wear zaz or DD gear, and/or be naked to get this dialogue. Follower dialogue is different, have a follower for awhile and explore a dungeon and open some chests/containers and/or have sex with your follower and then have them be horny to get DEC follower dialogue. Enslavement is from NPC to player only in this game, not the other way around.

Verstort · November 29, 2016

So I get this wierd bug where the follower aproches you for a dialog but instead of the sex/ bondage dialog it just starts a normal talk with your follower. This in itself isnt really a problem but the follower then keeps trying to force greet you 3 or 4 times in a row, always starting the normal dialog.

I suspect it is the sex one that isn't working since the Device one shows up every now and then.

Any clue as to what could cause this?

I have a good idea what could cause it, I'll see about fixing it tonight.

Maybe not, Can you provide a papyrus log from these cases? This bug isn't as obvious as I thought it would be.

Edit: I mean you might try this version, I made some minor changes to how approach works, and one of those changes might have fixed it, but maybe not.

Deviously Enslaved Continued(v13.6.2 Experimental).7z

soulssin · November 29, 2016

So I get this wierd bug where the follower aproches you for a dialog but instead of the sex/ bondage dialog it just starts a normal talk with your follower. This in itself isnt really a problem but the follower then keeps trying to force greet you 3 or 4 times in a row, always starting the normal dialog.

I suspect it is the sex one that isn't working since the Device one shows up every now and then.

Any clue as to what could cause this?

I have a good idea what could cause it, I'll see about fixing it tonight.

Maybe not, Can you provide a papyrus log from these cases? This bug isn't as obvious as I thought it would be.

Edit: I mean you might try this version, I made some minor changes to how approach works, and one of those changes might have fixed it, but maybe not.

Ill try this version out asap and will add a papyrus log anyway as soon as i get to it but probably wont be before friday.

Thanks for looking into it though.

Violence6884 · November 29, 2016

Control wether you get enslaved and locked into SD+ for a while or you just get something less intrusive and get to continue what you were doing. (Sometimes you get sexed, sometimes you get nothing, I don't really know what is going on.)

If you don't like the mechanic, you should go say so on SD+ support topic. But keep in mind that my input maybe flawed and imprecise

Ah no it's not that I don't like it, if I didn't I wouldn't be offering criticism :$

Currently, attacking the NPC that initiates the Submit/Resist dialogue does nothing - It does not stop sex nor enslavement(Depending on choice). The character will stop attacking and a sex scene always begins after a few seconds, except if you 1 shot the attacker ending it faster than the sex scene can load I guess but that's hardly the same and it's a bit chance based perhaps.

You also speak of a dialogue, but I've yet to see any. All I ever see is "Your aggressor tries to pin you down" or "You are pushed to the ground" and "Your aggressor tries to enslave you". It may be the same thing but you get the point. I can then choose Submit/Resist and that's it, and basically these 2 at least in my set up, only mean Sex/Sex+Slavery, nothing more. And I can't stop that in any way. So I'm curious about the dialogue you mention. Also I've yet to see any actual ways or dialogues for my character to enslave anyone, how is that even done? I've noticed the Player As Dom/Corruption/ETC options in the MCM but I just don't know how to trigger this. Apologies if it's too obvious and I missed it.

The dialogue I was talking about is part of the DEC attack dialogue, but what you're describing isn't DEC at all.

I think you're confusing SD/Defeat/something else with DEC. DEC's dialogue starts when an NPC runs up to you and starts talking to you with regular skyrim dialogue, not a message box.

IE: NPC:"Hey Slave, I require your service"->"I am not a slave!", "My master wouldn't approve of this","Yes sir","Fuck off *tries to kick him*"

The player normally has to wear zaz or DD gear, and/or be naked to get this dialogue. Follower dialogue is different, have a follower for awhile and explore a dungeon and open some chests/containers and/or have sex with your follower and then have them be horny to get DEC follower dialogue. Enslavement is from NPC to player only in this game, not the other way around.

Thanks for clarifying all that, appreciated! Now I have a clearer picture of what's going on. In regards to the last bit, sometimes completely random NPCs(Even Balgruf) run to me and tell me they found some device ETC. However they are definitely not my followers or anything. What's going on? :$

Also if there is no NPC enslavement, what are those dialogues about being dominant ETC? Sorry for being so confused but I have so many mods and MCMs.

spyke123 · November 29, 2016

Thanks for clarifying all that, appreciated! Now I have a clearer picture of what's going on. In regards to the last bit, sometimes completely random NPCs(Even Balgruf) run to me and tell me they found some device ETC. However they are definitely not my followers or anything. What's going on? :$

There is a relation setting for that. If you have it low enough, others will treat you as if they were a follower too

spyke123 · November 29, 2016

I have a few times experienced an issue were a follower will forcegreet "spam" my PC. They approach and forcegreet but directly go to the regular conversation tree. And if i press esc they do it again and again and again.... pretty sure it is this mod causing it

Sakhmeth · November 30, 2016

Trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. I can't seem to be randomly enslaved, even by slavers.

They will assault me and then enslave me, but not just straight up enslave.

Currently running 13.6.0

Vuln requirement set to 0.

Enslavement chance set at 100%

Morality requirement set to everyone.

Removed confidence check.

Per the debug reports, it is finding valid NPCs, they have enough confidence, and my vuln is at 2.

However, every time they roll, it always reports back:

"Rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting."

Verstort · November 30, 2016

Thanks for clarifying all that, appreciated! Now I have a clearer picture of what's going on. In regards to the last bit, sometimes completely random NPCs(Even Balgruf) run to me and tell me they found some device ETC. However they are definitely not my followers or anything. What's going on? :$

There is a relation setting for that. If you have it low enough, others will treat you as if they were a follower too

I might change that in the future to only active followers, I only really intended high relationship people to start sex approaches and have gagged-sex starting dialogue, not item finding dialogue, most of which assumes following.

I have a few times experienced an issue were a follower will forcegreet "spam" my PC. They approach and forcegreet but directly go to the regular conversation tree. And if i press esc they do it again and again and again.... pretty sure it is this mod causing it

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So I get this wierd bug where the follower aproches you for a dialog but instead of the sex/ bondage dialog it just starts a normal talk with your follower. This in itself isnt really a problem but the follower then keeps trying to force greet you 3 or 4 times in a row, always starting the normal dialog.

I suspect it is the sex one that isn't working since the Device one shows up every now and then.

Any clue as to what could cause this?

I have a good idea what could cause it, I'll see about fixing it tonight.

Maybe not, Can you provide a papyrus log from these cases? This bug isn't as obvious as I thought it would be.

Edit: I mean you might try this version, I made some minor changes to how approach works, and one of those changes might have fixed it, but maybe not.

Didn't get it to show up again last night, not sure if it was fixed or not.

Trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. I can't seem to be randomly enslaved, even by slavers.

They will assault me and then enslave me, but not just straight up enslave.

Currently running 13.6.0

Vuln requirement set to 0.

Enslavement chance set at 100%

Morality requirement set to everyone.

Removed confidence check.

Per the debug reports, it is finding valid NPCs, they have enough confidence, and my vuln is at 2.

However, every time they roll, it always reports back:

"Rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting."

Which slave mods do you have? DEC doesn't have it's own slavery system, it just piggy backs on other mods you have installed, also try resetting mod detection in the debug menu, in case you installed those slave mods after DEC.

Sakhmeth · November 30, 2016

Which slave mods do you have?

Several.

Slaverun, Simple Slavery, Maria Eden, etc.

Again, they will happily enslave me after they assault me, but they don't ever start with it.

Verstort · November 30, 2016

Which slave mods do you have?

Several.

Slaverun, Simple Slavery, Maria Eden, etc.

Again, they will happily enslave me after they assault me, but they don't ever start with it.

In the enslavement tab, "Sold" as compared to local and given is above 0 yes? SS is sold, I think Slaverun Reloaded is too, ME is either local or given, so long as they are above 0 they should have a chance to work too.

Was there any reason given in the debug for why enslavement wouldn't be possible?

Can you provide a papyrus log? Maybe you missed something I would see.

Edit: I mean I just checked and it's still working for me, so it's not like I messed it up for everyone (again)

But I feel there's more going on in the debug than you've mentioned since you need to have a high sex approach roll or enslave roll before you can get far enough for "rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting..." suggesting that there was something preventing enslave from working, and that should be in the debug.

Sakhmeth · November 30, 2016

In the enslavement tab, "Sold" as compared to local and given is above 0 yes? SS is sold, I think Slaverun Reloaded is too, ME is either local or given, so long as they are above 0 they should have a chance to work too.

Was there any reason given in the debug for why enslavement wouldn't be possible?

Can you provide a papyrus log? Maybe you missed something I would see.

Just the ""Rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting." message.

I tried to isolate everything else out one by one.

Does the percentage chance for request for sex have an impact? i set it to 1% just to try and make the slavery calls more important.

No papyrus log, I am afraid. Here are the repeating messages I am seeing when standing in a room with just one other person while naked and wearing cuffs on my arms and legs:

[CRDE] OnUpdate Time XX.XXXXX

[CRDE] Closest NPC(s): 1: Orc

[CRDE] approachall enslave 64.0000 / sex 11.0000 / a orc

[CRDE] slave lvl 0 : vuln lvl 2

[CRDE] dhlp: False weapon: False

[CRDE] Found NPC confident enough: orc

[CRDE] rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting...

Verstort · November 30, 2016

In the enslavement tab, "Sold" as compared to local and given is above 0 yes? SS is sold, I think Slaverun Reloaded is too, ME is either local or given, so long as they are above 0 they should have a chance to work too.

Was there any reason given in the debug for why enslavement wouldn't be possible?

Can you provide a papyrus log? Maybe you missed something I would see.

Just the ""Rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting." message.

I tried to isolate everything else out one by one.

Does the percentage chance for request for sex have an impact? i set it to 1% just to try and make the slavery calls more important.

No papyrus log, I am afraid. Here are the repeating messages I am seeing when standing in a room with just one other person while naked and wearing cuffs on my arms and legs:

[CRDE] OnUpdate Time XX.XXXXX

[CRDE] Closest NPC(s): 1: Orc

[CRDE] approachall enslave 64.0000 / sex 11.0000 / a orc

[CRDE] slave lvl 0 : vuln lvl 2

[CRDE] dhlp: False weapon: False

[CRDE] Found NPC confident enough: orc

[CRDE] rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting...

Weird.....

And no the sex chance doesn't matter, enslave is checked first, such that even if sex and enslave both roll low enough that enslave is the one picked.

But still, the fact that you got to "rolled too low for sex or enslavement, exiting" suggets enslave checks failed, you should have one of these in your log:

        debugmsg("No slave mods, cannot enslave", 3)
        debugmsg("Not enough time has passed since the last enslave attempt: now:" + CurrentGameTime + " t.o.:" + timeoutEnslaveGameTime, 3)    
        debugmsg("All enslavement sliders are set to zero", 3)  
        debugmsg(("Player is not vulnerable enough for enslave, MCM:" + MCM.iMinEnslaveVulnerable + ", Player:" + vulnerability), 3)
        debugmsg("Attacker is not slaver and Morality is not low enough, Attacker:" + actorMorality + ", Req:" + MCM.iMaxEnslaveMorality, 3)
        debugmsg("Player is protected by weapon (has weapon and MCM option is selected)", 3)    
        debugmsg("Player is un-enslaveable, cannot re-enslave yet: level " + enslavedLevel, 3)
        debugmsg("player protected from enslave by follower " + followers, 3)
        debugmsg("Cannot run any enslavement options, no enslave mods found?", 3)

Because the only other two options is for enslavement to be started and then leave the function (and you never get to sex test) or the roll isn't low enough, which is obviously not the case since you have roll 60-something out of 100.

At this point I would just suggest a save clean to fix the issue. Maybe you had an old script that was broken or something weird, skyrim can get some odd corruption glitches

Edit: You don't have debugmsg("initimidation roll: " + roll + " original: " + oroll, 2) which again suggests you never made it to start enslave, but your rolls are fine.

Nyyves · November 30, 2016

I'm getting an error where it just doesn't show up in the mcm. Like no deviously enslaved option to click on. I tried changing the load order but it didn't work. I'm using the latest version, 13.6.1

load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SexLab.esm

7 7 SexLabAroused.esm

8 8 Devious Devices - Assets.esm

9 9 ZaZAnimationPack.esm

10 a Devious Devices - Integration.esm

11 b daymoyl.esm

12 c hdtHighHeel.esm

13 d ApachiiHair.esm

14 e ApachiiHairFemales.esm

15 f ApachiiHairMales.esm

16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

17 11 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

18 12 BeeingFemale.esm

19 13 CreatureFramework.esm

20 14 SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm

21 15 HighResTexturePack01.esp

22 16 HighResTexturePack02.esp

23 17 HighResTexturePack03.esp

24 18 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

25 19 Cutting Room Floor.esp

26 1a SkyUI.esp

27 1b Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

28 1c UnreadBooksGlow.esp

29 1d AMatterOfTime.esp

30 1e SmartTraining.esp

31 1f craftablelockpicks.esp

32 20 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

33 21 TGBC.esp

34 22 SkipMageGuildTour.esp

35 23 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp

36 24 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

37 25 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp

38 26 HelmetToggle.esp

39 27 FNIS.esp

40 28 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

41 29 XPMSE.esp

42 2a SOSRaceMenu.esp

43 2b Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

44 2c Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp

45 2d Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp

46 2e Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

47 2f Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp

48 30 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp

49 31 Presets 2-3.esp

50 32 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

51 33 MilkModNEW.esp

52 34 MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp

53 35 SexLab_Solutions.esp

54 36 hydra_slavegirls.esp

55 37 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

56 38 Captured Dreams.esp

57 39 SexLab-Stories.esp

58 3a marriagemod - alpha v3.esp

59 3b AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

60 3c Serana Dialogue Edit.esp

61 3d RaceMenu.esp

62 3e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

63 3f KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp

64 40 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp

65 41 DHuntress.esp

66 42 KKFur.esp

67 43 FullBootForKKSA.esp

68 44 FlameAtronachArmor.esp

69 45 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp

FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp

FtM_3 - OBIS.esp

70 46 FtM_3.esp

FtM_3 - CCOR.esp

71 47 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

72 48 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

73 49 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

74 4a HentaiCreatures.esp

75 4b Inconsequential NPCs.esp

76 4c Cloaks.esp

77 4d SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp

78 4e No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp

79 4f Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

80 50 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

81 51 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

82 52 WetandCold.esp

83 53 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

84 54 sanguinesDebauchery.esp

85 55 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp

86 56 Marriable Serana.esp

87 57 Marriable Serana HF.esp

88 58 SimpleSlavery.esp

89 59 Immersive Patrols II.esp

90 5a Slaverun_Reloaded.esp

91 5b SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp

92 5c The Manipulator.esp

93 5d NoNakedComments.esp

94 5e Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

95 5f SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

96 60 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

97 61 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

98 62 Devious Deviants.esp

99 63 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp

100 64 _BF_Alchemist_CP_seller.esp

101 65 pchs_loansharks.esp

102 66 MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp

103 67 zzEstrus.esp

104 68 EstrusChaurus.esp

105 69 BFAP v1.3.esp

106 6a submissivelola.esp

107 6b Devious Cidhna.esp

108 6c SexLab_Dialogues.esp

109 6d SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp

110 6e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

111 6f NARC.esp

112 70 DeviouslyHelpless.esp

113 71 Jennifer.esp

114 72 EggFactory.esp

115 73 LoversComfort.esp

116 74 MoreNastyCritters.esp

117 75 PetCollar.esp

118 76 BFA_BeastAddOn.esp

119 77 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

120 78 SexistGuards.esp

121 79 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp

122 7a SexLab Enchantress.esp

123 7b Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp

124 7c NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp

125 7d SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp

126 7e SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

127 7f SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp

128 80 SlaveTats.esp

129 81 Deviously Enslaved.esp

130 82 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

131 83 My Home Is Your Home.esp

132 84 SRfreckles.esp

133 85 [+]K's_Erik_the_Slayer[+].esp

134 86 [+]K's_Faendal[+].esp

135 87 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

136 88 ccas_starts.esp

137 89 ImmerSlave.esp

Verstort · November 30, 2016

I'm getting an error where it just doesn't show up in the mcm. Like no deviously enslaved option to click on. I tried changing the load order but it didn't work. I'm using the latest version, 13.6.1

load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SexLab.esm

7 7 SexLabAroused.esm

8 8 Devious Devices - Assets.esm

9 9 ZaZAnimationPack.esm

10 a Devious Devices - Integration.esm

11 b daymoyl.esm

12 c hdtHighHeel.esm

13 d ApachiiHair.esm

14 e ApachiiHairFemales.esm

15 f ApachiiHairMales.esm

16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

17 11 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

18 12 BeeingFemale.esm

19 13 CreatureFramework.esm

20 14 SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm

21 15 HighResTexturePack01.esp

22 16 HighResTexturePack02.esp

23 17 HighResTexturePack03.esp

24 18 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

25 19 Cutting Room Floor.esp

26 1a SkyUI.esp

27 1b Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

28 1c UnreadBooksGlow.esp

29 1d AMatterOfTime.esp

30 1e SmartTraining.esp

31 1f craftablelockpicks.esp

32 20 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

33 21 TGBC.esp

34 22 SkipMageGuildTour.esp

35 23 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp

36 24 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

37 25 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp

38 26 HelmetToggle.esp

39 27 FNIS.esp

40 28 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

41 29 XPMSE.esp

42 2a SOSRaceMenu.esp

43 2b Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

44 2c Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp

45 2d Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp

46 2e Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

47 2f Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp

48 30 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp

49 31 Presets 2-3.esp

50 32 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

51 33 MilkModNEW.esp

52 34 MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp

53 35 SexLab_Solutions.esp

54 36 hydra_slavegirls.esp

55 37 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

56 38 Captured Dreams.esp

57 39 SexLab-Stories.esp

58 3a marriagemod - alpha v3.esp

59 3b AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

60 3c Serana Dialogue Edit.esp

61 3d RaceMenu.esp

62 3e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

63 3f KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp

64 40 KKSDrBWeightFix.esp

65 41 DHuntress.esp

66 42 KKFur.esp

67 43 FullBootForKKSA.esp

68 44 FlameAtronachArmor.esp

69 45 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp

FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp

FtM_3 - OBIS.esp

70 46 FtM_3.esp

FtM_3 - CCOR.esp

71 47 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

72 48 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

73 49 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

74 4a HentaiCreatures.esp

75 4b Inconsequential NPCs.esp

76 4c Cloaks.esp

77 4d SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp

78 4e No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp

79 4f Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

80 50 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

81 51 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

82 52 WetandCold.esp

83 53 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

84 54 sanguinesDebauchery.esp

85 55 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp

86 56 Marriable Serana.esp

87 57 Marriable Serana HF.esp

88 58 SimpleSlavery.esp

89 59 Immersive Patrols II.esp

90 5a Slaverun_Reloaded.esp

91 5b SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp

92 5c The Manipulator.esp

93 5d NoNakedComments.esp

94 5e Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

95 5f SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

96 60 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

97 61 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

98 62 Devious Deviants.esp

99 63 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp

100 64 _BF_Alchemist_CP_seller.esp

101 65 pchs_loansharks.esp

102 66 MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp

103 67 zzEstrus.esp

104 68 EstrusChaurus.esp

105 69 BFAP v1.3.esp

106 6a submissivelola.esp

107 6b Devious Cidhna.esp

108 6c SexLab_Dialogues.esp

109 6d SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp

110 6e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

111 6f NARC.esp

112 70 DeviouslyHelpless.esp

113 71 Jennifer.esp

114 72 EggFactory.esp

115 73 LoversComfort.esp

116 74 MoreNastyCritters.esp

117 75 PetCollar.esp

118 76 BFA_BeastAddOn.esp

119 77 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

120 78 SexistGuards.esp

121 79 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp

122 7a SexLab Enchantress.esp

123 7b Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp

124 7c NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp

125 7d SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp

126 7e SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

127 7f SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp

128 80 SlaveTats.esp

129 81 Deviously Enslaved.esp

130 82 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

131 83 My Home Is Your Home.esp

132 84 SRfreckles.esp

133 85 [+]K's_Erik_the_Slayer[+].esp

134 86 [+]K's_Faendal[+].esp

135 87 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

136 88 ccas_starts.esp

137 89 ImmerSlave.esp

Looks like you forgot UIExtensions, there's a link on DEC's download page.

Siudhne · December 1, 2016

Just in case someone else has problems with key stealing / item equip (I seem to be cursed with them) - out of despair I tried using the old 13.3.0 version after a clean save instead of a current version, which seems to reliably work on my end.

Verstort · December 1, 2016

Huh? Items and key stealing was broken? When did this happen?

You're saying after the save clean you tried the newer version and it didn't work, but the old version did?

What version of DDi are you using? I haven't seen this bug at all personally.

Siudhne · December 2, 2016

Well, it seems it only ever breaks for me and since the problem didn't seem to be fixable last time (if I recall correctly) I didn't want to test your patience.

My version of DDi is 3.3b. Item equip via DCUR works if I do it via the MCM debug menu - it just happens that it doesn't catch the sex animation end to fire off the key stealing/item equip triggers. The last thing I get from DCUR via console is a "Sexlab animation start detected" (or similar), so maybe switching all that stuff to the start of the animation would solve it.

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