Deviously Enslaved Continued [2019-11-11]

[xyzxyz]

Can I take the Captured dreams items out of the "found by followers" pool? I don't have CD.

[1Al]

I intalled it, doesn't work, no item in MCM menu.

[xyzxyz]

Can i reset/debug the "follower found item approach"? My follower started the dialogue while I stood nearby but was not in direct dialogue with her. And it ended when I tried to speak with her. She hasn't approached me for days now despite multiple containers looted.

[xyzxyz]

I use Captured Dreams 3.84 but even with that follower never equip anything when they find CD items.

[Tseverin]

anybody using this with Sexlab Adventures?

 

[xyzxyz]

We need a function that followers can unlock themselves when they have keys in their inventory. I'm getting tired of freeing them after they put found DDs on themselves.

[RaptorVz]

Does it work well with Devious followers

[Omnishade]

What's the reason for straight jacket being greyed out in item options? I have the latest DD installed.

[kurotatsu]

If I remember it correctly - they were disabled by the mod author because of some problems.

[Tseverin]

On 11/11/2019 at 1:56 PM, donttouchmethere said:

There is a mod that gives flowers instead of colorful bondage devices? ?

 

Only way out for me in that case is to wear mage robes, DEC registers them as "armed".

 

I also like to combine DEC with SLadventures now.

Just in case it gets too easy ?

This answers my question.

Edited November 5, 2022 by Tseverin

[ucglow]

is there a way to exclude/ disable a npc for DEC? so this mod won't effect them?

[Itme_69]

HI I would like some help with the installation process since I do not understand how to install the SE version of this. I have ZAP ( as it is flagged as requered in vortex).
I installed it but it doesnt show up in MCM?

[Itme_69]

Not gonna lie I needed until now to read properly trough and see the requirements.

[xyzxyz]

Any problems with DD 5.2?

[donttouchmethere]

On 11/6/2022 at 12:36 AM, Tseverin said:

This answers my question.

cool =D

 

4 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Any problems with DD 5.2?

I fear so.

DEC can still add any devices it searches for.

BUT it removes DD bodysuits before adding new DDs and isn't able to correctly reequip/replace them. This causes removed DD5 bodysuits (catsuits/straitjackets) to be broken. Means it's still locked but not rendered anymore.

Workaround I: use a mod to unlock the DD5 catsuit and after that reequip it.

Workaround II: untick all devices in DEC MCM that forces it to remove a DD5 bodysuit

 

Another issue:

DCL v9 seems to still have DDs included that don't support DD5.2. In DEC's case it will add a DCL "Rubber Suit" that is still lockable but has no sound and is easily removable (ignores DD MCM settings)

[donttouchmethere]

On 2/15/2023 at 8:07 AM, ucglow said:

is there a way to exclude/ disable a npc for DEC? so this mod won't effect them?

Only NPC that can be followers can be added to DEC's ignore list. Not even sure if that would include all DEC features, probably only follower related approaches.

If it's only one NPC you want to prevent to approach you via DEC you could let it wear a collar. That way DEC registers that NPC as slave and stops approaches ?

Edited June 7, 2023 by donttouchmethere

[donttouchmethere]

On 5/11/2022 at 5:54 PM, xyzxyz said:

We need a function that followers can unlock themselves when they have keys in their inventory. I'm getting tired of freeing them after they put found DDs on themselves.

Come on, there are some mods around for that already like:

NPC Support:

• Better NPC Support for Devious Devices
• fixes issues with DDs on NPC and gives them a chance to escape
  • Kharos:
    • Restore missing effects after NPC is reloaded by the game engine (for example after loading screen).
    • Restore missing effects after NPC's inventory has changed (for example after player giving new equipment to follower).
    • Prevent bound NPCs from using weapons and spells in combat; they will use bound combat if enabled in Devious Devices settings.
    • Allow manipulation of some NPC devices (insert/remove panel gag plug, link/unlink DCUR rubber gloves with D-links).
    • Escape system: If enabled in MCM this allows NPCs to struggle and maybe escape their devices.

 

And more:

 

If you have UD installed it also has NPC escape options.

 

Or cheat with Inte's DDe

Edited June 7, 2023 by donttouchmethere

[xyzxyz]

3 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Come on, there are some mods around for that already like:

NPC Support:

• Better NPC Support for Devious Devices
• fixes issues with DDs on NPC and gives them a chance to escape
  • Kharos:
    • Restore missing effects after NPC is reloaded by the game engine (for example after loading screen).
    • Restore missing effects after NPC's inventory has changed (for example after player giving new equipment to follower).
    • Prevent bound NPCs from using weapons and spells in combat; they will use bound combat if enabled in Devious Devices settings.
    • Allow manipulation of some NPC devices (insert/remove panel gag plug, link/unlink DCUR rubber gloves with D-links).
    • Escape system: If enabled in MCM this allows NPCs to struggle and maybe escape their devices.

Found that mod in the meantime^^ They don't unlock piercings though.

[donttouchmethere]

3 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Found that mod in the meantime^^ They don't unlock piercings though.

Piercings are forever ? ?

 

[xyzxyz]

Why is the "My cock requires attention..." approach triggering so often? My char has a spell equipped, no DDs and wears a rubber light armor and a helmet. Shouldn't I be save from any aprroaches?

[donttouchmethere]

11 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Why is the "My cock requires attention..." approach triggering so often? My char has a spell equipped, no DDs and wears a rubber light armor and a helmet. Shouldn't I be save from any aprroaches?

Depends on your settings in MCM.

There are other factors that can rise vulnerability. If those together are higher than the protection from being armed > you are in trouble.

Fame (can make on it's own vulnerable enough for approaches), visible tattoos, visible cum, night, wearing visible devices can add up to overcome your armed protection.

Also morality protection can be overcome if the NPC are aroused enough.

 

it's armed vulnerability protection against the sum of all vulnerabilities.

[xyzxyz]

28 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Depends on your settings in MCM.

There are other factors that can rise vulnerability. If those together are higher than the protection from being armed > you are in trouble.

Fame (can make on it's own vulnerable enough for approaches), visible tattoos, visible cum, night, wearing visible devices can add up to overcome your armed protection.

Also morality protection can be overcome if the NPC are aroused enough.

 

it's armed vulnerability protection against the sum of all vulnerabilities.

No tattoos and no DDs. I don't have any extra mod for fame. No visible cum. It was night though.

[donttouchmethere]

9 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

No tattoos and no DDs. I don't have any extra mod for fame. No visible cum. It was night though.

Check the setting how much vulnerability protection a weapon gives.

Sum up all vulnerabilities together and check it against the vulnerability protection.

 

Another thing that can circumvent the protection are potential followers that are registered with DEC but aren't actively following you atm. In that case the morality settings in MCM apply.

 

Oh boy, it's really hard to feel safe anywhere with DEC installed.

 

The only real protection is if no one is aroused enough for an approach lol

Edited July 7, 2023 by donttouchmethere

[donttouchmethere]

I can't remember the default DEC settings. If weapon protection is around 2 it's to low in most cases. If you set it to 3 you should be safe if you don't use many sources of vulnerability. If you set it to 4 you are way too safe ^^

 

The more vulnerability factors are active the higher you need to set the weapon protection.

Armor itself doesn't help, it only negates naked vulnerability (unless it is flagged as naked or doesn't fit over certain body slots).

Wearing mage robes counts as armed (and not naked... which is a lie depending on the mage armor lol).

 

The thrill is to set weapon protection just high enough that it protects you in most usual cases (like shopping at day time even if cum covered), but isn't enough if something else is going on (like shopping at night, while cum covered and have a slave tattoo on your forehead).

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by donttouchmethere

[donttouchmethere]

If you are vulnerable and the approaches are too frequent you can:

> add more downtime to approaches

> rise NPC arousal needed for an approach

> modify SLA how arousal changes over time

> lower the radius DEC searches for possible encounters

> set DEC to only process NPC with LOS to the PC

> reduce the chance for approach in DEC MCM (I found that around 20% is good to reduce frequent approaches, if you go lower you are relatively save just from the % chance alone)

 

Or get SD+ enslaved and tell DEC not to do anything while enslaved

Grab a chastity belt and lower the chances for being approached if wearing chastity

 

If nothing helps start a fistfight ^^

(works best if you have devious vanilla installed, if you loose the fist fight you end up in DDs, no risk no fun right?)

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by donttouchmethere