etan Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 -snip What are the problems with 2.1? I tought the 2.0 issues were all fixed :/ So the last stable version is 1.7? CTD in highly populated areas, papyrus spam. Fixes have been proposed, but that does not rule all problems.
Guest Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 -snip CTD in highly populated areas, papyrus spam. Fixes have been proposed, but that does not rule all problems. Humm.. I just use the SOS-Light body is there any scriptless-way to add the HDT physics to it? Maybe attach the XML to the body NIF?
Guest Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 I feel like floppy balls have no collision (if I correctly understand the collision phenomenon). Penis has, balls not?! In nearly every screenshot they are dipped into a leg. Who's in charge of that?
iron_jack Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 -snip CTD in highly populated areas, papyrus spam. Fixes have been proposed, but that does not rule all problems. Humm.. I just use the SOS-Light body is there any scriptless-way to add the HDT physics to it? Maybe attach the XML to the body NIF? Well you could attach HDT physics to the twig'n'berries without this mod at all, really. The reason for this mod's existence is so that the HDT physics can be turned on or off as needed, on the fly. Basically, during Sexlab animations, the bounce (at least for the shaft) has to turn off so that the anim can take over movement. Otherwise you'll have dudes vaguely rubbing floppy cocks over chicks' (or other dudes') asses, instead of actually penetrating. Unfortunately, you can't really achieve that on/off functionality without scripting. As far as I know. That being said, I assume you could attach an xml to the balls for bounce without this (or any) mod, just as long as you didn't touch the penis itself. That way you'd at least have bouncy balls during sex, though it might look kinda funny if you have dudes just walking around naked (normal bouncy balls and weird SOS-jello schlong).
Guest Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 -snip Thanks for the tips! Since I dont use sex mods I just did a SOS light body with a kind of floppyness. I attached the SOS - GRworks HDT Willy Addon to a the SOS light body If anyone wants this - Here Also i'm kind of getting a huge hdtPhysicsExtensions.dmp in my Override folder (1.2GB) Is that because of the modified HDT.dll file?
Guest Posted September 18, 2016 Posted September 18, 2016 Somebody do something: No floppy balls in female position, never. Moreover, they are allways sticking out severely. All the animation looks wrong. Such an omission Just tell me how, I'll do it on my own. And I can't see any difference between "full floppy" and "low arousal". The second one have no effect on scaling. I suppose these two stages stand for "floppy pendulous" and "floppy stretched" respectively. In order to get the half-grown but still soft penis I have to open MCM and execute scaling manualy. For getting back to small and soft again MCM. (find 1 difference:) Take pity on me
AlluringAnkh Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Do this mod add new bones to the skyrim engine, or does it use scripting to make this happen? Made new bones + hdt bones and rigged them, how difficult would it be to dupe this floppy effect on something else from here?
Gayton Kerslut Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Still can't get the Werewolf schlong to use the floppy physics :/ I've left the papyrus log down below of a quick test, anyone have ANY clue? [09/19/2016 - 04:27:10PM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [09/19/2016 - 04:27:10PM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets. [09/19/2016 - 04:27:10PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms) [09/19/2016 - 04:27:10PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) [09/19/2016 - 04:27:26PM] Cannot open store for class "EGOTestInitScript", missing file? [09/19/2016 - 04:27:30PM] Cannot open store for class "sexlabframework", missing file? [09/19/2016 - 04:27:31PM] Cannot open store for class "MJB_IvarsteadNarfiHouseScript", missing file? [09/19/2016 - 04:27:31PM] Error: Unable to bind script MJB_IvarsteadNarfiHouseScript to (34980F7B) because their base types do not match [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] Error: Unable to bind script EGOTestInitScript to alias PalaceFollowTriggerB on quest DA02 (0004D8D6) because their base types do not match [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property FloppifyMsg on script FloppySOSAlias attached to alias FloppySOSPlayerAlias on quest FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property floppyPreset5 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property floppyPreset4 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property floppyPreset2 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property floppyPreset1 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property floppyPreset3 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property hunter on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property ItemColFaction on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property HuntingLocation on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] warning: Property HuntQuest on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] Error: Property MGRitual04 on script uskpretroactive131script attached to USKPRetroactive131 (0501906F) cannot be bound because MGRitual04 (000CD987) is not the right type [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] VM is freezing... [09/19/2016 - 04:27:35PM] VM is frozen [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] Reverting game... [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] Error: Unable to bind script MJB_IvarsteadNarfiHouseScript to (34980F7B) because their base types do not match [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] Error: Unable to bind script EGOTestInitScript to alias PalaceFollowTriggerB on quest DA02 (0004D8D6) because their base types do not match [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property hunter on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property ItemColFaction on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property HuntingLocation on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property HuntQuest on script FollowerWandererScript attached to FollowerWander (22000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property FloppifyMsg on script FloppySOSAlias attached to alias FloppySOSPlayerAlias on quest FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] Error: Property MGRitual04 on script uskpretroactive131script attached to USKPRetroactive131 (0501906F) cannot be bound because MGRitual04 (000CD987) is not the right type [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property floppyPreset5 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property floppyPreset4 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property floppyPreset2 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property floppyPreset1 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:27:36PM] warning: Property floppyPreset3 on script floppysosquest attached to FloppySOSQuest (4300182B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/19/2016 - 04:28:36PM] Loading game... [09/19/2016 - 04:28:36PM] VM is thawing... [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] FNIS AA started (load) [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] SOS Maintenance: loaded version is 300004 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] SOS Maintenance: 300004 is update [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [FloppySOS] Initialization start [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [BDSchlongs] BDSOSSchlongPlayer initializing [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [BDSchlongs] Player Registering for SOS events [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [BDSchlongs] BD genital[0]: [Armor < (4B03D2B4)>] [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] InitWidgetLoader() [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] FNIS aa (load game) started [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [BDSchlongs] BD genital[1]: [Form < (4B03D2B7)>] [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Cannot open store for class "fnis_aa2", missing file? [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Error: Unable to obtain function call information - returning None stack: [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 45 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6" stack: [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 45 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Error: Static function GetAAnumber not found on object fnis_aa2. Aborting call and returning None stack: [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 46 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6" stack: [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 46 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Error: Static function GetAAnumber not found on object fnis_aa2. Aborting call and returning None stack: [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 47 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp6" stack: [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 47 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] FNIS aa nMods:0 nSets:0 crc:0 crcOld:0 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Error: Static function GetAAprefixList not found on object fnis_aa2. Aborting call and returning None stack: [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 50 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] FNIS aa GetAAsets mod: FNIS aa nSets: 0 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Error: Static function GetAAsetList not found on object fnis_aa2. Aborting call and returning None stack: <unknown self>.fnis_aa.GetAAsets() - "FNIS_aa.psc" Line 240 [FNIS_Q2 (100022EB)].FNIS_aaQuest2.OnInit() - "FNIS_aaQuest2.psc" Line 51 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [BDSchlongs] BD genital[2]: [Form < (4B03D2B8)>] [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [BDSchlongs] BD genital[3]: [Form < (4B03D2B6)>] [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Performing compatibility check. Ignore the papyrus warnings that may appear bellow. [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] Error: File "SexLab.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [BDSOSSchlongQuest (4B035C13)].BDSOSSchlongQuest.DoGameLoad() - "BDSOSSchlongQuest.psc" Line 53 [BDSOSSchlongQuest (4B035C13)].BDSOSSchlongQuest.OnInit() - "BDSOSSchlongQuest.psc" Line 25 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:37PM] [FloppySOS] Initialization complete [09/19/2016 - 04:28:38PM] [FloppySOS] Hooked into SOS animation events [09/19/2016 - 04:28:38PM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [09/19/2016 - 04:28:38PM] Compatibility check complete. [09/19/2016 - 04:28:38PM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [09/19/2016 - 04:28:40PM] Error: Object reference has no 3D stack: [ (000A7EA9)].Sound.Play() - "<native>" Line ? [ (000B78FE)].HelgenRandomSoundScript.OnUpdate() - "HelgenRandomSoundScript.psc" Line 97 [09/19/2016 - 04:28:41PM] [FloppySOS] Cloak effect applied [09/19/2016 - 04:28:41PM] [FloppySOS] Cloak effect applied [09/19/2016 - 04:29:37PM] SOS OnRaceSwitchComplete: equipping schlong after Werewolf transition [09/19/2016 - 04:29:52PM] Error: Object reference has no 3D stack: [ (000A7EA9)].Sound.Play() - "<native>" Line ? [ (000B78FE)].HelgenRandomSoundScript.OnUpdate() - "HelgenRandomSoundScript.psc" Line 97 [09/19/2016 - 04:29:57PM] Error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type stack: [None].footprintsFootstepsScriptWerecreature.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ? [None].footprintsFootstepsScriptWerecreature.OnUpdate() - "footprintsFootstepsScriptWerecreature.psc" Line ? [09/19/2016 - 04:30:03PM] VM is freezing... [09/19/2016 - 04:30:03PM] VM is frozen
Guest Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Anyone about the hdtPhysicsExtensions.dmp (1.2GB)? Should I just wait for a update and stop using the custom HDTPE.dll from floppysos?
EvilReFlex Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Still using 1.7 and have no problems with it.
jopie123 Posted September 19, 2016 Author Posted September 19, 2016 If 1.7 works fine, then 2.1 should work too, given that 2.1 uses the same load order as 1.7, right? I should really say mod priority (the left tab in MO) instead of load order. For 1.7 mod priority doesn't matter because it doesn't override any files. But 2.1 does, i.e. the DLL. But as you say you already checked that, I'm not sure what else can be going on... I just wanted to report that the fixed "hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll" did actually work for me , as far as i can tell. I used to CTD 100% of the time after Dragonsreach/Jorvaskrr loading screens , but not anymore . Thanks for getting back on this! Could you also make it so that when sexlab triggers an erection event and the player/NPC is the receiver, it picks a specific profile? It would be more immersive Something like floppy schlong and balls as a receiver, but only floppy balls as giver. Yes that is actually on my todo. I wanted to use sexlab tags to identify the receiver but I have zero experience with that so it may take some time to get done Yo, just wanted to say I love this mod, but I have a few problems: 1. My Papyrus log just gets spammed with these messages, maybe FloppySOS updates a bit too often, if nothing changes? 2. NPCs are always flaccid during SexLab animations, they only get erect briefly, when the animation stage changes, but get flaccid quickly again soon after. Ps.: I'm using the fixed dll and the esp modified by ffabris (I just removed the "is male" conditions, because futa :3). Thanks. That is some excessive event handling indeed. Are you running SLA or SLA redux? Apart from some problems with Floppy Sos 2.1, your mod is awesome. The HDT schlongs customization helps make the body of men more realistic movements (see picture ==> nsfw male !!! http://i.imgur.com/hhguCU3.gif Thank you for your work. Etan. Thanks, glad you like it I feel like floppy balls have no collision (if I correctly understand the collision phenomenon). Penis has, balls not?! In nearly every screenshot they are dipped into a leg. Who's in charge of that? Correct, balls do not collide with thighs. I agree it would be desirable to have in sex scenes, but it causes a lot of problems in idle/walking animations. Do this mod add new bones to the skyrim engine, or does it use scripting to make this happen? Made new bones + hdt bones and rigged them, how difficult would it be to dupe this floppy effect on something else from here? No, this mod does not change any mesh or skeleton. It only activates a HDT XML, which refers to bones NPC GenitalsScrotum, Genitals01 etc. Still can't get the Werewolf schlong to use the floppy physics :/ I've left the papyrus log down below of a quick test, anyone have ANY clue? Does the hdtPhysicsExtensions.log file say anything more? It appears that StorageUtil hasn't completed init when FloppySOS first tries to use it to store data. It might be helpful to include the "missing" function argument when getting values from StorageUtil. That way, if the data hasn't been saved for any reason, then at least you're returning a default. Yes, that probably implies rewriting getPreferenceValue() and getPreferenceStrValue() to test what value is being requested, and then call StorageUtil.GetXXXXValue() with the added missing param. Edited to add: Actually, you might want to switch from StorageUtil to JsonUtil. One significant advantage in that is that settings persist between game saves. Also, JsonUtil doesn't seem to suffer from this kind of race condition. Even so, I would still not rely on the value being set correct on first run. But that's me. Again, good points, thanks. I think moving from StorageUtil to another mechanism (maybe JsonUtil) is worth trying. But I'm kind of holding off on the script side right now until I get the stability issues out of the DLL. The patched DLL seems to fix the CTD, but people report performance drops... Alternatively I could revert the hdt dll and move my code to FloppySOS.dll, but then the FPS-jitter issue will re-appear :/
Guest ffabris Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Again, good points, thanks. I think moving from StorageUtil to another mechanism (maybe JsonUtil) is worth trying. But I'm kind of holding off on the script side right now until I get the stability issues out of the DLL. Makes sense... tackle one issue at a time. The patched DLL seems to fix the CTD, but people report performance drops... Not being able to look at the code, all I can do is make a wild guess: what it looks like, is memory being allocated but then not freed. Because not only does performance drop... eventually you crash. But who knows. Thanks for working on this!
daftendirekt Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 I should really say mod priority (the left tab in MO) instead of load order. For 1.7 mod priority doesn't matter because it doesn't override any files. But 2.1 does, i.e. the DLL. But as you say you already checked that, I'm not sure what else can be going on... Yeah I'm not sure what's going on either. I have the mod set to load after any mods that affect HDT physics in my load order, so it should be taking priority. Switching SAM with SoS didn't work either. Sorry for the headache.
qotsafan Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks. That is some excessive event handling indeed. Are you running SLA or SLA redux? SLA redux
qotsafan Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Could you also make it so that when sexlab triggers an erection event and the player/NPC is the receiver, it picks a specific profile? It would be more immersive Something like floppy schlong and balls as a receiver, but only floppy balls as giver. Yes that is actually on my todo. I wanted to use sexlab tags to identify the receiver but I have zero experience with that so it may take some time to get done This was actually discussed in the SGO thread, take a look at this: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/34579-soulgem-oven-iii/?p=1678068 Not a permanent solution I guess, but it's something.
Guest Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 I feel like floppy balls have no collision (if I correctly understand the collision phenomenon). Penis has, balls not?! In nearly every screenshot they are dipped into a leg. Who's in charge of that? Correct, balls do not collide with thighs. I agree it would be desirable to have in sex scenes, but it causes a lot of problems in idle/walking animations. Got it. Though something should be done to balls behavior in SL scenes. Ideally something like cremaster reflex. No collision, no floppyness, no sticking, no ugly screenies.
Guest Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Floppy SOS 2.1. Just a couple of tweaks to everything be allright, just a couple as I see it (balls apart). 1. Hey doc, every time after traveling a bit (another location loaded) my follower loose his floppyness. I presume Skyrim climate causes this congelation effect. Though, it's not quite simple to warm it back. I have to open hotkey menu on my follower, set "Disabled" (in spite of it's obviously disabled - this is a trick) , then open it again and set "Full Floppy" (or whatever I want). Glad I found this method, every time grew nervous unless I did. Can't say for sure about congelation syndrome on other NPCs at the moment. Seem to have the same. 2.MCM is not friendly enough to me. I mean "Floppy Presets" menu. Whatever preset I have set, I open "Floppy Presets" to see the zero values. And if I change values to desirable but forget to click "Save", I reopen it with zero values again. Besides, Saving have no confirmation pop-up... this may be for good. PS. Love testing Floppy SOS The greatest mod. Ever. Greater maybe then SOS itself. Even if I have no SOS I would like to have Floppy SOS
Gayton Kerslut Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 Still can't get the Werewolf schlong to use the floppy physics :/ I've left the papyrus log down below of a quick test, anyone have ANY clue? Does the hdtPhysicsExtensions.log file say anything more? I just had a longshot breakthrough, I think it works now. It appears that you need to have this installed http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended-xpmse/ For the werewolves and VL to work. Should probably put that on the OP. Thanks for the helpfulness tho!
Crater275 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Jopie123 this mod compatible with SOS - Grower not a shower?
Guest Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Jopie123 this mod compatible with SOS - Grower not a shower? What is it? A dragon? I WANT to have a GROWER!!! Have you already given it a try ?
TBT Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Hey jopie, just wanted to add onto the pile of people that fixed physics .dll has helped. Jorrvaskr basement doesn't crash anymore!
Gayton Kerslut Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 I wish to report with everything working, I was crashing nearly every time I entered a new cell with a high population and the physics.dll has resolved that with about 95% success. To the point I think that it's just skyrim being skyrim accounting for the other 5%.
ishooturface Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 Testers wanted! People getting crashes (e.g. when entering Jorrvaskr Living Quarters) when using FloppySOS 2.1, can you please try replacing FloppySOS' hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll with the one attached to this post, and report your findings? Thanks! You. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I've been crashing like crazy entering new cells, buildings, cities, and everything else. I use the Alternate Start mod and whenever I loaded my character into a tavern, Insta-crash, but this seems to have fixed this. Either way, will be testing this out for a bit to see how far I can go before, if at all, it crashes. Thank you!
Guest Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 -snip -snip Is that one the same from 2.1? The one from 2.1 was causing a huge hdtPhysicsExtensions.dump file. Like 1.2GB in size :/
ishooturface Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 -snip -snip Is that one the same from 2.1? The one from 2.1 was causing a huge hdtPhysicsExtensions.dump file. Like 1.2GB in size :/ Yes, it's 2.1. Also got another issue but won't get into it until I know for a fact it's this mod doing that.
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