Prison Overhaul Patched (LE)

[Nymra]

5 minutes ago, Tenner1343 said:

So I'm having an issue with POP appearing on the MCM

 

I started a new pacifist character, and it's not appearing, however on another character it is appearing.

 

Does anyone know why POP might appear on one character's MCM but not another's?

 

try to put it last in your ESP load order.

[Tenner1343]

9 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

try to put it last in your ESP load order.

I'm sorry, I'm a bit new to modding this game, what exactly do you mean by that?

 

Do you mean something in the MCM or in the mod organizer?

[Nymra]

1 minute ago, Tenner1343 said:

I'm sorry, I'm a bit new to modding this game, what exactly do you mean by that?

 

Do you mean something in the MCM or in the mod organizer?

 

in the mod organizer that is hopefully MO2. you have the ESP load order on the lower right side (it has its own tab tho "Plugins"), look for "xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp" and put it at the end of this list.

just one possible solution tho that worked for me. might as well be something else that is wrong in your game. but with POP not loading last I had similar experiences than you describe

[Tenner1343]

12 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

in the mod organizer that is hopefully MO2. you have the ESP load order on the lower right side (it has its own tab tho "Plugins"), look for "xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp" and put it at the end of this list.

just one possible solution tho that worked for me. might as well be something else that is wrong in your game. but with POP not loading last I had similar experiences than you describe

I'm not currently using MO2, using Vortex.

 

Can say though that the xaz esp is at the very bottom of the load order of the plugins

 

However, I'm still confused how that would cause one character to have POP in their MCM while another character doesn't have it in their MCM

[Tenner1343]

OK so it somehow moved itself out of the bottom of the plugins list?

 

I reinstalled POP and it showed xazprisonoverhaulpatched at the bottom

[Nymra]

9 minutes ago, Tenner1343 said:

OK so it somehow moved itself out of the bottom of the plugins list?

 

I reinstalled POP and it showed xazprisonoverhaulpatched at the bottom

 

I dont know, maybe just vortex stuff
maybe a vortex user can help here.

EDIT: (maybe some kind of auto load order running automatically?).

In any case run LOOT first and THEN move POP to the end. 

 

14 minutes ago, Tenner1343 said:

I'm not currently using MO2, using Vortex.

 

Can say though that the xaz esp is at the very bottom of the load order of the plugins

 

However, I'm still confused how that would cause one character to have POP in their MCM while another character doesn't have it in their MCM

 

yes, I started new games with the same profile and some had POP starting its MCM, some had not. So one character had it, one did not. 

only moving the Load order helped. 

if you start a new game, do nothing until ALL the messages in the upper left are gone. usually you see the POP initiation messages there. if it does not initiatate then, it most likely never will on this game.

Edited September 28, 2021 by Nymra

[Tenner1343]

I had a thought, could the load order with racemenu be messing things up? since with alt start it auto puts you in it?

 

cause I've also realized that while my other mods are still appearing, such as Defeat, it isn't fully working. Instead of stumbling around after being released, and then keeling over, my PC goes into the bleedout animation, and doesn't pull up the white recovery bar to get back up. This is also unique to the NG character, while working properly on an older character

[Tenner1343]

25 minutes ago, Tenner1343 said:

I had a thought, could the load order with racemenu be messing things up? since with alt start it auto puts you in it?

 

cause I've also realized that while my other mods are still appearing, such as Defeat, it isn't fully working. Instead of stumbling around after being released, and then keeling over, my PC goes into the bleedout animation, and doesn't pull up the white recovery bar to get back up. This is also unique to the NG character, while working properly on an older character

as well, even cum effects aren't being applied to the new character. could this all be related?

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Tenner1343 said:

as well, even cum effects aren't being applied to the new character. could this all be related?

Conglomerate 01 - by donttouchmethere -> how to install your stuff

Conglomerate 02 - by donttouchmethere -> how to install your kinky stuff

Conglomerate 03 - by donttouchmethere -> how to merge your stuff

Skyrim LE Stability Guide - by mrsrt -> how to not blow your stuff up

 

make sure your game is correctly installed on a fundamental level. 
the only thing I would recommend different from this guides is I suggest using MO2. has a higher learning curve but is highly rewarding.

[mewfan151]

On 9/19/2021 at 11:52 PM, Inte said:

Actually, that tells me that there might be a race condition when checking for mods. I'll try a different implementation for the next version, thanks. 

Yeah, not sure why. I do get the pop up saying it can't find the files, and after I wait a few seconds and close it, it pops up in the top left that it's ready and I don't see the pop ups again.

 

I think I'm using the most recent papyrus util, but mine's due to me having to get a new hard drive a while back, and finding my modded skyrim safe on a secondary hard drive, so I had to re-enable it on steam and point at the folder, then change stuff on Wrye to detect it, so I just assumed it was the wrong folder as an issue.

 

I still get the pop-up each load, but I haven't tried seeing if my Papyrus util is up to date, I'll give that a look-see, though as of now, waiting a few seconds for all 3 windows, PoP, SuM, and DDe to load seems to resolve the issue.

[Inte]

12 hours ago, mewfan151 said:

I still get the pop-up each load,

That should not happen. Make sure your POP's System.json is in the correct place. 

[nickkao]

Help! My POP cannot perform punishment incidents normally.
(Sorry, English is not my native language)

I did not encounter any problems in installation and execution, and only used POP and necessary MODs during testing. But only the same event can always be triggered. After being taken to the cell, one situation is an endless loop of guard punishment (sex). The other is that after being taken to pillory, there is no punishment. Returning to the cell is just an ordinary punishment (sex), without whip and other things.

 

And the cell option that was added to version 500 did not work properly.

[FalloutKitten]

On 10/5/2021 at 11:09 AM, mewfan151 said:

Yeah, not sure why. I do get the pop up saying it can't find the files, and after I wait a few seconds and close it, it pops up in the top left that it's ready and I don't see the pop ups again.

 

I think I'm using the most recent papyrus util, but mine's due to me having to get a new hard drive a while back, and finding my modded skyrim safe on a secondary hard drive, so I had to re-enable it on steam and point at the folder, then change stuff on Wrye to detect it, so I just assumed it was the wrong folder as an issue.

 

I still get the pop-up each load, but I haven't tried seeing if my Papyrus util is up to date, I'll give that a look-see, though as of now, waiting a few seconds for all 3 windows, PoP, SuM, and DDe to load seems to resolve the issue.

I found that ensuring nothing overwrites PapyrusUtil fixed the issue for me. If you use Mod Organizer you should move PapyrusUtil_v33 to the bottom of your mods, or at least below SUM, POP, and DDe. 

[Inte]

19 hours ago, nickkao said:

But only the same event can always be triggered.

That usually happens for minor crimes, try major crimes.

 

19 hours ago, nickkao said:

And the cell option that was added to version 500 did not work properly.

I need more info, what cell option and how does it not work properly. 

[Dank__Jedi]

Hi if someone can help me I'd apppreciate because i am starting to lose my mind here.

 

I play on SE and I have the issue that only one zap animation is chosen during the punishments but i have the override if needed option disabled. I always play without.

 

I really don't think that the zap filter is involved in this because I replaced everything in the function AdjustAnimationSelection in zbfsexlab.psc by a return and I still have the issue. This function is the function in ZAZ that manages the filter...

 

I don't know what to try anymore honestly. I also have the dd animation filter disabled.

 

The only other mod that I have which filters animations in a similar fashion is cursed loot, but you cannot disable its filter and it is supposed to only work on scenes triggered by cursed loot so I don't think it could be the issue.

 

I have everything set to AUTO in the MCM.

 

Edit: Ok nevermind. It's cursed loot... I tried to disable all functions in the debug page from cursed loot's mcm and it works...

 

Edit 2: Nevermind again, it was just a coincidence that it seemed to work fine without cursed loot. The issue was somewhere else. I have detailed it a bit more in my next post.

Edited October 14, 2021 by Dank__Jedi

[Herowynne]

6 hours ago, Dank__Jedi said:

Edit: Ok nevermind. It's cursed loot... I tried to disable all functions in the debug page from cursed loot's mcm and it works.

 

Thank you for coming back to report the cause of your problem. That is very helpful to the community!

[Dank__Jedi]

16 hours ago, Herowynne said:

 

Thank you for coming back to report the cause of your problem. That is very helpful to the community!

 

Okay well nevermind again. It wasn't cursed loot, it was just a coincidence that it seemed to work with cursed loot's functions shut down.

 

The problem are the RoughMissionary, SkullFuck and the other similar punishment that i can't remember the name right now. I've taken a quick glance at the code and it seems to be the intended behavior, which I find a bit odd, because those animations are really outdated and look really bad.

 

So I turned them off and it seems to work fine except for the voyeur scenario which will sometimes do the exact same issue I mentioned but with the ZapSexlabLesbian animation even though I've set the abuser to be only male so it shouldn't trigger a lesbian scene.

[clesh]

Is there anyway to disable follower arrest completely? I already disabled it in the mcm but my follower that uses NFF still gets arrested and caused CTDs everytime

[FatBeaver64]

has the latest version changed config settings ?

 

Using SE version I updated game (also tried on new character), pop did its update thing and reset the MCM to the values I expect.

 

I set all the options I wanted and exited menu only for pop to auto load a completely different config that doesn't match the default install config or the options I had chosen ?

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, FatBeaver64 said:

has the latest version changed config settings ?

 

I think so.

 

 

2 hours ago, FatBeaver64 said:

I set all the options I wanted and exited menu only for pop to auto load a completely different config that doesn't match the default install config or the options I had chosen ?

 

Did you save your settings to a file?

 

I upgraded to the new version of POP, made all the MCM changes that I wanted, then I saved my settings to the "Default" JSON file. After that, POP remembered my settings.

[FatBeaver64]

i hadnt no i was used to just upgrading it and changing a few settings. 

 

was just surprised as the new default file is so much different to the settings the game loads in with. 

 

ive tried making 3 different config files 1 for each character ive been playing so I'll see how that copes with copying saves between multiple devices. 

[Lümmel]

You made a Bentely from a tractor. You cut a jewel. You created and maintain a great mod. Thank you.

Edited October 23, 2021 by Lümmel

[DrukpaKagyu]

Hi! So, I play on SE and am using the latest SUM and POP for SE. I am having an issue where the outside cell and the cage above the fire, both in Whiterun, don't load in. The outside cell has a bed and a chandelier, but no floor or walls. Any idea what I need to do? Thanks so much!

[Herowynne]

5 hours ago, DrukpaKagyu said:

Hi! So, I play on SE and am using the latest SUM and POP for SE. I am having an issue where the outside cell and the cage above the fire, both in Whiterun, don't load in. The outside cell has a bed and a chandelier, but no floor or walls. Any idea what I need to do? Thanks so much!

 

You need Zap 8+ for the outdoor cells to work properly.

[DrukpaKagyu]

11 hours ago, Herowynne said:

 

You need Zap 8+ for the outdoor cells to work properly.

Ah, that must be my issue, as I'm only on 7.0 - thanks!

 

So, I'm a bit new to modding - I just download and install ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT Rev3 and ZAZ 8.0+ UUNP HDT Rev3 as two separate mods? And then just disable 7.0 in my mod manager?  Oh, its different body mods lol

Edited October 24, 2021 by DrukpaKagyu