zaira Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 Buy a house for the master would not give me the feeling of being handed completely to my master. I spent much time in designing my quest to transport the feeling of submission. I am sure that I will find a way that the master has all power in his hand. And Maria Eden will remain a story of player slavery - it is much more challenging creating a dominant AI
germanicus Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Regarding buying houses - I have prepared Proudspire Manor for slave scenes - my plan is that the master is using your money to buy things for himself - and at the end a whole house... Tbh making it so owner would buy it sounds like running an extra mile - lot more work, possible conflict with thane of haafingar quest etc. Making it so she would ask you to buy and upgrade it then you just add a single line of code to vanilla quest "Visit your new home" which would start your own quest. Only issue to solve would be what to do with housecarl. Could be simply disabled but tbh Jordis is too cute to just disable her like that Not sure if it could be made to make her a slave as well. And an idea what could happen once you have that house - a party for all of solitude nobility with a beloved thane (and loyal housecarl) as main attractions Maybe with an option to beg your owner that you would wear a mask during that party? With general idea of your owner wants to be considered by solitude high class as one of them. What would you say to long term idea of Once your owner would have that house and would be considered as part of solitude nobility he/she could come with an idea to start slave trading business. Basically something alike to what Aaron is doing in Whiterun but on a bigger scale. Some slave pens area could be added to Proudspire basement. Could lead to general idea of grab some female (bandits, rogue mages, silverhand members, custom made NPCs for special request a vampire or a thalmor justiciar) get her trained and sell her. With player serving as slave trainer for your owner. Unless you would do a lousy job and you would be send for that training yourself Would add some player dominant elements without changing the fact that you would still be a slave of your owner. I love the idea of life time slave. And aqqh, I love your idea of submitting others to the slavery but still being submitted to you Master as all others you listed. Very creative. Zaira I trully love the direction you are heading to. All compliments (even you were ignoring my posts)
zaira Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 The feeling to be only one number in a group of others is something I have planed for the brothel quest (Fox Club).
Snook001 Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Hi, I came upon an interesting situation, and I'm not sure if it is a glitch or done by design. The situation is as follow, I was lock-up in the cage with the dog at Maria's house and she went to bed. There were no time displayed for how long she was supposed to sleep. Only a text saying she will sleep for [...] hours. Now if I go to sleep on the bed she wake-up when I do. Is it supposed to be like that so we can set the time or is it a bug? And after she release me she state an other day with-out making profit... I cannot leave with her and no one wants to speak to a slave so I'm kind of confuse about what I must do . Any idea? Thanks, for the great mod and I can now save inside a building so that's awesome Keep up the great work
aqqh Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 And aqqh, I love your idea of submitting others to the slavery but still being submitted to you Master as all others you listed. Very creative. well that was the point - not sure if you guys understood me entirely. I'm not asking to turn the whole mod into player dom and make player act as independent slave trader. This do would be difficult and would rather be a topic of a separate mod even if it would be based on Maria. That was about player - which would still be a slave - being ordered to train other npc. Point would be to capture or buy a rebellious female and then turn her into a slave worth a decent amount of money. The better trained -> the more money. Through actions like beating, sex training, behavior training you would need to teach them that by following orders they would suffer less. And above all else you would need to make sure they wont run away. Capture part could even be skipped and replaced by an event that your master has bought a slave and you just need to pass your experience and skill of being a slave to her. If you let her run away you would be forced earn back the money that was wasted - as a whore for example. If the result would be disappointing you would be forced to go through training yourself. I could even try to make some of it myself if i would ever force my CK not to crash while loading maria.esp...
germanicus Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 aqqh - You have my full support in your ideas. I wish I can be so creative as you are.
nameless701 Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I had massive problems with the latest Maria-files and i have fixed this... i have uninstalled Maria and i searched my skyrim-folder for maria. I found a lot of old maria-scripts. Now i deleted this script/script.src-files and reinstalled maria.
zaira Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 I had massive problems with the latest Maria-files and i have fixed this... i have uninstalled Maria and i searched my skyrim-folder for maria. I found a lot of old maria-scripts. Now i deleted this script/script.src-files and reinstalled maria. MO is your friend
zaira Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 But there are some pitfalls with MO - especially for modders - it is a bit tricky to establish a MO friendly modding environment.
Storms of Superior Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Regarding buying houses - I have prepared Proudspire Manor for slave scenes - my plan is that the master is using your money to buy things for himself - and at the end a whole house... Tbh making it so owner would buy it sounds like running an extra mile - lot more work, possible conflict with thane of haafingar quest etc. Making it so she would ask you to buy and upgrade it then you just add a single line of code to vanilla quest "Visit your new home" which would start your own quest. Only issue to solve would be what to do with housecarl. Could be simply disabled but tbh Jordis is too cute to just disable her like that Not sure if it could be made to make her a slave as well. And an idea what could happen once you have that house - a party for all of solitude nobility with a beloved thane (and loyal housecarl) as main attractions Maybe with an option to beg your owner that you would wear a mask during that party? With general idea of your owner wants to be considered by solitude high class as one of them. What would you say to long term idea of Once your owner would have that house and would be considered as part of solitude nobility he/she could come with an idea to start slave trading business. Basically something alike to what Aaron is doing in Whiterun but on a bigger scale. Some slave pens area could be added to Proudspire basement. Could lead to general idea of grab some female (bandits, rogue mages, silverhand members, custom made NPCs for special request a vampire or a thalmor justiciar) get her trained and sell her. With player serving as slave trainer for your owner. Unless you would do a lousy job and you would be send for that training yourself Would add some player dominant elements without changing the fact that you would still be a slave of your owner. Maybe after the thane quest, the master can just take it away from the slave.
w1des Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Just wanted to stop in and say that I am really enjoying this mod. Thank you for creating it.
Leeyds4LLTS Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Thanks.... I was enjoying that particular PC storyline... was hoping I didn't have to start a new game. I don't have that last Cheats panel. MCM script likely got attached to your savegame - you could try to delete it manually (savecleaner tool) and see if it helps. I have a "savetool" application, but don't know how to do anything manually with it. I wonder if it is the same or different from the "savecleaner tool" you are referring to above. Also, I wanted to share with the group that I have been using "Sexlab College Days Winterhold", as a way to build up my mage skills when my PC was out on her own, AND it has been working out wonderfully. I haven't experienced any conflicts with this mod. delete this one memcm.jpg this should be safe to do. Hiya aggh =) Thanks for you suggestion above. As it turned out, it didn't actually help me save my old game. I had to start a new one (even thought that is really not so dredful.. hehe) It turns out that, while it did make the menu item restart to show the "cheats" tab, it unfortunately also nixed the keyboard settings for kneel, strip, and dance. AND weirdly, there was no response to my trying to reestablish them. It wouldn't let me rename the hot keys. Actually, it did let me rename the hot keys, the hot keys just remained unresponsive. Put this down to "learn something everyday." =) Thx for trying (=
bazaba Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I played this for a while and here are the bugs I've found: 1) The start option "I'm a trained slave" worked fine Except one hickup. The first time I left my cage the fight music played and Maria attacked and killed me. This is a single event and has not happened again. 2) The option "I'm a slave" did nothing. I waited for training but the slaver Aaron trained another slave and then sat down on his bench and thats it. I waited for 4 ingame days but nothing happened. 3)Maria got problems to climb the stairs to the temple of Dibella. A few stairs before the end she bumps into an edge, gets stuck and is teleported back to the beginning of the stairs. After some tries she managed to complete the stairs. 4) Maria locked me into the cage together with her dog and went sleeping. She said I am there to entertain him. The dialogue option shows "fuck me" but the dog answers with a "grrr" and thats it. All bestiality mods are installed and work pretty well so I assume it's a bug from this mod. 5) My girl got the permission to go on her own. As soon as I left Marias house a message popped up "They come for you and your body is their price". A quest marker appeared on the compass and showed me the direction of the whiterun stables. I tried to go there but after a few steps I was teleported back to her door. Ok, then I will return and everything is fine. I went into the house and was teleported back to the outside. Using the cheat and teleport Maria to my position was the only solution to end this. 6)Maria left for some time and ordered her pimp friend to sell me. First two customers no problem and then the prostitution options disappeared and the pimp did nothing but saying "go suck more cocks".
Leeyds4LLTS Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Is there a bug where the septims you earn are not accounted for by Maria? I have found this happening to me. While we are on the subject... at the end of the Streetwhore quest, after Maria asks, "Did she earn enough?" It would be nice if the Hired Thug would respond either generically with a yes or no or other comment, or with the actually amount that was earned. Thx in advance.
someperson123 Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Hi. I ran into some issues with the mod. I got through the training, Dibella, the 3 thugs and Maria going to sleep. After she woke up she just sits there. I waited for two ingame days, but she never does anything. She won't follow me, and if I ask permission to leave, the second I step outside it says the bounty hunters caught me and I can't move. I cheated my way through by giving myself cash via console. Only then did we teleport to get her a dress. Ever since then she's just following me, but never orders me to do anything. I have no conflicting mods. As the matter of fact, I only have the dependencies for this mod, plus some armor/weapon replacers. Help?
Leeyds4LLTS Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Hi. I ran into some issues with the mod. I got through the training, Dibella, the 3 thugs and Maria going to sleep. After she woke up she just sits there. I waited for two ingame days, but she never does anything. She won't follow me, and if I ask permission to leave, the second I step outside it says the bounty hunters caught me and I can't move. I cheated my way through by giving myself cash via console. Only then did we teleport to get her a dress. Ever since then she's just following me, but never orders me to do anything. I have no conflicting mods. As the matter of fact, I only have the dependencies for this mod, plus some armor/weapon replacers. Help? That happens consistently to me as well. After Maria lets you out of the kennel when she wakes up, just walk outside and use the cheats panel to teleport her to you. Then she will follow you around just fine. then go to a town and ask to be her slut, and she will set you up with the "streetwalker" quest with a pimp. Don't forget to kneel to talk to maria.. Take Maria into inns around 5 pm and ask if she wants some entertainment, and your PC will end up being entertainment.
someperson123 Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Ah, I see. Is there a way to get her to initiate these interactions by herself?
saintdie Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I may have missed it if it was suggested already, but so far this seems as if it would work well/better as an add on for Alternate Start (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/?), which would preclude needing to choose who you escaped Helgen at the beginning. Otherwise, so far so good.
Leeyds4LLTS Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I may have missed it if it was suggested already, but so far this seems as if it would work well/better as an add on for Alternate Start (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/?), which would preclude needing to choose who you escaped Helgen at the beginning. Otherwise, so far so good. Yes, that has been a topic you can read about. Just check back through the pages... doesn't take too long.
zaira Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 I may have missed it if it was suggested already, but so far this seems as if it would work well/better as an add on for Alternate Start (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/?), which would preclude needing to choose who you escaped Helgen at the beginning. Otherwise, so far so good. Yes, that has been a topic you can read about. Just check back through the pages... doesn't take too long. Yes I have answered that I am currently not interested in such an integration. It costs much time and has zero benefit for me - only a new mod dependency. But another modder could create a proxy mod the integrates into LAL and calls Maria quests - in that case I will remove my own quickstart and give him every support he need.
Leeyds4LLTS Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Hello zaria... thx for this mod. I enjoy it a lot. Is there a bug that keeps Maria from realizing or counting all the gold that the PC has collected? My PC has had trouble with this to the point that Maria auctions her off, even though a lot of gold has been collected and taken from my PC.
nameless701 Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I may have missed it if it was suggested already, but so far this seems as if it would work well/better as an add on for Alternate Start (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/?), which would preclude needing to choose who you escaped Helgen at the beginning. Otherwise, so far so good. If you want an other gamestart,than use an old version from "Skyrim unbound". This works
someperson123 Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 How come some clients are not happy? Do you have any control over that, or is that just random? Also, any way to make it not crash after servicing clients at an inn? If I try to save or exit the inn, the game CTDs.
zaira Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 How come some clients are not happy? Do you have any control over that, or is that just random? Also, any way to make it not crash after servicing clients at an inn? If I try to save or exit the inn, the game CTDs. In forced whoring mode it is random - in street whore mode it depends on the time you spend with sex - if you skip the scene too fast the client gets angry. I will change it in a future release. I have no idea why save games crashes - I can find no reason in the logs - but in next release I have removed some timers - maybe that helps. I recommend to disable autosave while playing with Maria Eden.
zaira Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 Hello zaria... thx for this mod. I enjoy it a lot. Is there a bug that keeps Maria from realizing or counting all the gold that the PC has collected? My PC has had trouble with this to the point that Maria auctions her off, even though a lot of gold has been collected and taken from my PC. In next release I have reworked the business part of the mod so it should be fixed.
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