Milk Mod Economy

[Ed86]

Ok it is definitely the lactaid effect causing problems. If I wait for the lactaid to take effect and get the notice that the boobs have progressed then I can use milker cuirass to milk my pc more and get the new milk generated by the lactaid out of her boobs. If I don't wait for the lactaid and just run off to a load door or try to save then the game will ctd so it is the lactaid effect that needs to be looked at. Either it is bugged or it may be conflicting with other mod scripts that are running at the time.

Or you could remove mods that destroy your papyrus perfomance and disable autosaving

 

Is it at all possible for this mod to increase character's weight slider as she progresses milk maid levels? (Could have swore it did this before)

 

Been looking for some kind of interesting mod that slowly gives permanent larger breasts as time goes on. Seems like this concept fits perfect for this one. Have the character start off with a small A cup, and eventually end up with massive mammaries as an experienced milk maid.

 

Scaling is nice and all, and can still be used on top of the larger base size, but it still causes issues with proportions and usually ends up being the reason I don't use certain mods.

 

I'd like to use both milk mod and mana tanks together. They both use scaling, so that means I can't use milk mod's scaling. But would still be great if the base size could get larger. More mana/milk as they grow!

 

Well there used to be weight scaling but it damaged npcs and caused neck seams, since i was unable to find quick solution i just disabled ♿ it

 

[Kjuzhren]

After updated latest version.. Still MCM doesn't pop up... 

I had this problem once. WHat I had to do was uninstall all my other mods, create a new save with default skyrim and then install sexlab and other requirements, before getting milk mod. I only had a few mods active when I got it to twerk, but don't do this if there is another way. It takes alot of time when you are running 230+ mods at the same time XD

Has the problem with no breast animation during milk pumps been fixed?

[Deimos]

 

Ok it is definitely the lactaid effect causing problems. If I wait for the lactaid to take effect and get the notice that the boobs have progressed then I can use milker cuirass to milk my pc more and get the new milk generated by the lactaid out of her boobs. If I don't wait for the lactaid and just run off to a load door or try to save then the game will ctd so it is the lactaid effect that needs to be looked at. Either it is bugged or it may be conflicting with other mod scripts that are running at the time.

Or you could remove mods that destroy your papyrus perfomance and disable autosaving

 

Is it at all possible for this mod to increase character's weight slider as she progresses milk maid levels? (Could have swore it did this before)

 

Been looking for some kind of interesting mod that slowly gives permanent larger breasts as time goes on. Seems like this concept fits perfect for this one. Have the character start off with a small A cup, and eventually end up with massive mammaries as an experienced milk maid.

 

Scaling is nice and all, and can still be used on top of the larger base size, but it still causes issues with proportions and usually ends up being the reason I don't use certain mods.

 

I'd like to use both milk mod and mana tanks together. They both use scaling, so that means I can't use milk mod's scaling. But would still be great if the base size could get larger. More mana/milk as they grow!

 

Well there used to be weight scaling but it damaged npcs and caused neck seams, since i was unable to find quick solution i just disabled ♿ it

 

 

 

Having the same issue here and as a precaution I made sure my heavy papyrus mods were off for the first run, and set on a very long update (60 seconds for update) for the second and still had the same issue with lactaid, tried taking it straight and it causes a ctd ( which I know was an issue early on).

The mcm only shows up if its installed via MO however previous versions before march didn't require this and worked fine, and finally although this is more of a cosmetic issue than anything else regardless of what setting is used for pump milking suction cups are always on even if milking outfit or naked are selected.

 

[chajapa]

Jumping in here to maybe keep Ed86 from fixing things that aren't broken...

 

For reference... I run this on a Mac mini with integrated graphics. 16gig of system ram. Using MO, I normally have about 110 active plugins.

 

For me..... Lactacid works fine as far as I can tell. And it always has.

The milk cups in the machine only show if I have selected it in MCM. If I have "naked" selected....she's naked. If I have "cuirass"selected...she wears the milk harness.

 

The animated boobs in the milk machine were made for when we had BBP... not HDT. If you get rid of HDT and go back to just BBP, you'll get animated boobs. I just don't, personally, want to give up HDT. The animation's creator tried to make it work with HDT and it just wasn't working. Something about key frame animation and other ....animator stuff. This is not a Milk Mod issue. It's an animation issue. Milk Mod is simply using the animation already available.

 

Adjusting weight on the fly has never worked. It causes all kinds of issues with neck seams, grey face bug, and others. NOBODY uses it, and that's for good reason. It breaks stuff.

 

At some point..... like... in all my free time which I have basically NONE of, even though I'm retired now..... I would LIKE to use the NiO transforms to be able to make adjustments to more than just a single scale.Like right now the boobs get bigger and stick out more, but what if we could add some roundness using, for example, the BreastsSSH slider, or the DoubleMelon slider....maybe add some weight to the boobs with the Gravity slider. It would take quite a bit of experimentation and ideally should be configurable for each milk maid.

 

This mod is pretty damn stable. I have about 30 profiles in MO and MME is in all but a couple....the ones I keep really clean for character creation.

 

Oh, and if the MCM isn't showing up, look at your total mods. Especially if you can't FORCE it to show up. 

 

 

[Deimos]

Jumping in here to maybe keep Ed86 from fixing things that aren't broken...

 

For reference... I run this on a Mac mini with integrated graphics. 16gig of system ram. Using MO, I normally have about 110 active plugins.

 

For me..... Lactacid works fine as far as I can tell. And it always has.

The milk cups in the machine only show if I have selected it in MCM. If I have "naked" selected....she's naked. If I have "cuirass"selected...she wears the milk harness.

 

The animated boobs in the milk machine were made for when we had BBP... not HDT. If you get rid of HDT and go back to just BBP, you'll get animated boobs. I just don't, personally, want to give up HDT. The animation's creator tried to make it work with HDT and it just wasn't working. Something about key frame animation and other ....animator stuff. This is not a Milk Mod issue. It's an animation issue. Milk Mod is simply using the animation already available.

 

Adjusting weight on the fly has never worked. It causes all kinds of issues with neck seams, grey face bug, and others. NOBODY uses it, and that's for good reason. It breaks stuff.

 

At some point..... like... in all my free time which I have basically NONE of, even though I'm retired now..... I would LIKE to use the NiO transforms to be able to make adjustments to more than just a single scale.Like right now the boobs get bigger and stick out more, but what if we could add some roundness using, for example, the BreastsSSH slider, or the DoubleMelon slider....maybe add some weight to the boobs with the Gravity slider. It would take quite a bit of experimentation and ideally should be configurable for each milk maid.

 

This mod is pretty damn stable. I have about 30 profiles in MO and MME is in all but a couple....the ones I keep really clean for character creation.

 

Oh, and if the MCM isn't showing up, look at your total mods. Especially if you can't FORCE it to show up

The sad thing is my load order hasnt changed since February when everything worked right, the only changes made have been updating mods to bring them more up to date, so unless the updated mods are whats breaking the mod then I'm lost.  (on a strange note I tested on a new save with the mod manually installed and via MO set up the same way but disabled, the mod has no issues at all when manually installed except no mcm and works fine no ctd's as far as I can tell, where as the MO version shows the mcm and still has the same issues.) 

 

Update I did another LooT run and updated it this time (forgot to last time)  and everything seems to be working it is highly likely its a load order issue for the lactaid bug, though not certain on the mcm part (using MO install)  the only issue I'm still having is the MoM suction cups are still appearing even when naked is selected, I'm starting to think it may be an issue with the recent zaz update or the dungeon home which uses pumps.

[spoonsinger]

Just an observation. MME, (2016-05-03) seems to be flagging a PC Milk Maid, (and I assume NPC's), using the SOS - 'No Schlong For Females' plugin as being Futa for gender rather than female.

[NamelessF]

I tried to change the script for activating MME MCM menu

 

First No plugin script files-> [Milk Mod Enabled. Event intervals set to: Milk production - 1 hour] didn't pop up

 

Second Active plugin script files- [Milk Mod Enabled. Event intervals set to: Milk production - 1 hour] pop up but still no MCM. 

 

New game- Same happened as Second case. I changed load order but didn't work. It's too bad can't use this mod... 

[Ed86]

 

 

Ok it is definitely the lactaid effect causing problems. If I wait for the lactaid to take effect and get the notice that the boobs have progressed then I can use milker cuirass to milk my pc more and get the new milk generated by the lactaid out of her boobs. If I don't wait for the lactaid and just run off to a load door or try to save then the game will ctd so it is the lactaid effect that needs to be looked at. Either it is bugged or it may be conflicting with other mod scripts that are running at the time.

Or you could remove mods that destroy your papyrus perfomance and disable autosaving

 

Is it at all possible for this mod to increase character's weight slider as she progresses milk maid levels? (Could have swore it did this before)

 

Been looking for some kind of interesting mod that slowly gives permanent larger breasts as time goes on. Seems like this concept fits perfect for this one. Have the character start off with a small A cup, and eventually end up with massive mammaries as an experienced milk maid.

 

Scaling is nice and all, and can still be used on top of the larger base size, but it still causes issues with proportions and usually ends up being the reason I don't use certain mods.

 

I'd like to use both milk mod and mana tanks together. They both use scaling, so that means I can't use milk mod's scaling. But would still be great if the base size could get larger. More mana/milk as they grow!

 

Well there used to be weight scaling but it damaged npcs and caused neck seams, since i was unable to find quick solution i just disabled ♿ it

 

 

Having the same issue here and as a precaution I made sure my heavy papyrus mods were off for the first run, and set on a very long update (60 seconds for update) for the second and still had the same issue with lactaid, tried taking it straight and it causes a ctd ( which I know was an issue early on).

The mcm only shows up if its installed via MO however previous versions before march didn't require this and worked fine, and finally although this is more of a cosmetic issue than anything else regardless of what setting is used for pump milking suction cups are always on even if milking outfit or naked are selected.

 

well you definatly have broken save/papyrus, i dont have any issues described above

 

Just an observation. MME, (2016-05-03) seems to be flagging a PC Milk Maid, (and I assume NPC's), using the SOS - 'No Schlong For Females' plugin as being Futa for gender rather than female.

fixd

[nenten]

There seems to be something wrong with the UUNP Bodyslide files on the download page. With the most current version of Bodyslide they don't see to work correctly and aren't compatible with any UUNP Bodyslide preset.

[dragonoftheendtime]

hi im having a problem when with the mod when ever I start a new game I get a message saying milk mod install error its saying the scrip's are not running but I have all the dependencies and plugins I need and have but I keep getting that message can any one help me with this

[TheCooter]

I had this mod a long time ago but i reinstalled it a few weeks ago and got all the required mods and for some reason when I go to the Milking Machine and use it I just stand there and cant move then i get released no animation plays and I dont understand why anyone know why help would be epic. Also when it works I fucking love this Mod.

I am Noticing when i run FNIS for Users MME doesnt show up could that be the issue? Also when i check ZaZ is says Milk Machine in the animations I just don get why its not working.

 

Q: No milking stations / animations

A: You have outdated ZaZ Animation Pack / haven't run FNIS.

 

 

This is from the FAQ and I have the newest ZaZ and ran FNIS about 6 times today still no luck.

 

 

Let me know if anyone has any answers please

[Zor2k13]

Still crashing after orgasm in milking machine. I removed the devious devices for him mod and the cursed loot patch for it thinking that because I am playing as female the mod might not be needed but that removal didn't change things it still crashes after orgasm or boobgasm in milking machine. Even if I wait for the lactaid to take effect then milk the rest out with milker cuirass the game will still crash upon save or cell change.

[chajapa]

There seems to be something wrong with the UUNP Bodyslide files on the download page. With the most current version of Bodyslide they don't see to work correctly and aren't compatible with any UUNP Bodyslide preset.

 

Just downloaded and tested.

 

Doesn't show up in any groups so you can't use a preset.

 

Solution: Use Group Manager in Bodyslide to add it to the Unified UNP group. Exit Bodyslide. Restart BodySlide. Now if you select Unified UNP group, the Milk harness shows up. Presets available in the Unified UNP group now work. The outfit builds correctly. Notice the output path when you build it. If using MO, the meshes will go into your Overwrite. Move them wherever you need them.

 

They work.

Still crashing after orgasm in milking machine. I removed the devious devices for him mod and the cursed loot patch for it thinking that because I am playing as female the mod might not be needed but that removal didn't change things it still crashes after orgasm or boobgasm in milking machine. Even if I wait for the lactaid to take effect then milk the rest out with milker cuirass the game will still crash upon save or cell change.

 

I seriously doubt this is an MME problem. I've been using MME since before Ed86 took it over and made it wonderful.

 

More likely you have an issue with load order, skeleton, animation registration......something. Most common would be to have MilkmodNewZaZ.esp loading before MilkmodNEW.esp. 

 

Order should be:

 

MilkmodNEW.esp

MilkmodNewZaZ.esp

 

Crash on cell change can also be an issue with the skeleton being overwritten somewhere. You have a problem that isn't caused by MME. 

 

[Zor2k13]

I use LOOT for sorting load order and that is how it has the esp sorted but there is also MilkmodNewHF in between those two.

[nenten]

 

 

 

Thank you very much. Never actually used the group manager before. Was a huge help.

[minibw]

Hmm...along with the current schlong texture issue, it seems that the milk cuirass blocks out Slavetats for male wearers.  Not sure if there's any way around that?

 

Great mod tho, having fun with it~

[roldoi1911]

I don't know why but whenever I milk my follower, I don't get any milk, not even a notice. And whenever I try to milk at a station, my follower just seems to stay for hours. Anyone have any ideas?

[Ed86]

just another test version from git

it should be working ... mostly

 

 

 

v 10-05-2016 git

fixed some previous git edits i didnt like( ie. mcm debug caps)

fixed some bugs

made some edits to use dialogues instead of old trade system

added more dialogues

some dialogues needs fixing, inns working, everything else im not sure, like arcadia which for some reason is not considered alchemist ? maybe i should rewrite faction detection to try use script detection instead of CK conditions

 

 

v 09-05-2016 git

done msgboxes and dialogues

added Inns to economy

Khajiits, orcs and fencers dont pay milkpump upkep and local tax

orcs milkpumps are generous enough to provide you free lactacid, they'll take half the milk though, but who cares its all about process

 

v 06-05-2016 git

added trade dialogue economy script

needs correct msgboxes and dialogue texts for traders

needs testing

 

added trade dialogues:

Khajiits merchants:

-buy all milk

-trade Lactacid for milk

orc merchants(wisewoman):

-buy normal and race milk

inns:

-buy race milk

alchemists:

-buy ww/vampire/succubus milk

-buy cum/semen x2, futa x10

-sell Lactacid for 100g

Fences:

-buy all milk

farmers:

-buy normal milk

-sell Lactacid for 100g

 

v 05-05-2016 git

fix for psq integration

fix for "SOS No Schlong for Females" and "SOS Pubic Hair for Females"

 

v 25-04-2016 git

fixed missing missing RegisterForCrosshairRef()

 

v 23-04-2016 git

increased cum/semen price to 2gold

normal MilkPump feeding now requires lactacid

switched to default simple potions

ww/vampire/succubus milk, cant be sold through normal trade any more

some fixes

 

v 20-04-2016 git

some fixes

 

v 17-04-2016 git

added Kynesgrove and Karthwasten to economy

removed keywords form tits armors

moved pumps to separate esp

added alternate pumps by EinarrTheRed

slightly tweaked bound milkpumps script

some fixes

 

 

 

[spoonsinger]

just another test version from git

it should be working ... mostly

 

 

 

v 10-05-2016 git

fixed some previous git edits i didnt like( ie. mcm debug caps)

fixed some bugs

made some edits to use dialogues instead of old trade system

added more dialogues

some dialogues needs fixing, inns working, everything else im not sure, like arcadia which for some reason is not considered alchemist ? maybe i should rewrite faction detection to try use script detection instead of CK conditions

 

 

v 09-05-2016 git

done msgboxes and dialogues

added Inns to economy

Khajiits, orcs and fencers dont pay milkpump upkep and local tax

orcs milkpumps are generous enough to provide you free lactacid, they'll take half the milk though, but who cares its all about process

 

v 06-05-2016 git

added trade dialogue economy script

needs correct msgboxes and dialogue texts for traders

needs testing

 

added trade dialogues:

Khajiits merchants:

-buy all milk

-trade Lactacid for milk

orc merchants(wisewoman):

-buy normal and race milk

inns:

-buy race milk

alchemists:

-buy ww/vampire/succubus milk

-buy cum/semen x2, futa x10

-sell Lactacid for 100g

Fences:

-buy all milk

farmers:

-buy normal milk

-sell Lactacid for 100g

 

v 05-05-2016 git

fix for psq integration

fix for "SOS No Schlong for Females" and "SOS Pubic Hair for Females"

 

v 25-04-2016 git

fixed missing missing RegisterForCrosshairRef()

 

v 23-04-2016 git

increased cum/semen price to 2gold

normal MilkPump feeding now requires lactacid

switched to default simple potions

ww/vampire/succubus milk, cant be sold through normal trade any more

some fixes

 

v 20-04-2016 git

some fixes

 

v 17-04-2016 git

added Kynesgrove and Karthwasten to economy

removed keywords form tits armors

moved pumps to separate esp

added alternate pumps by EinarrTheRed

slightly tweaked bound milkpumps script

some fixes

 

 

 

 

ooooh! Fancy pumps esp. Going to try it anyway just for that. (Let's face it my game isn't going to last a week anyway )

 

 

[chajapa]

Ed86,

 

In the test file from git...using Fancy for the new pump locations. 

I'm in Whiterun and an NPC went into the pump. Got message "Do you want to make a new Milk Maid"....so I said "Yes"

 

First thing I noticed was that it didn't feed her Lactacid (and I have it on in MCM....not the Forced Feeding one.... just normal default.

 

Haven't been to other locations.

 

In the Milk Mod esp. I edit it with TES5Edit to remove the "ignore from sandbox" flag. I do that for the milk pumps in ZaZ and in MME. So a wandering NPC can use them.

This works in all previous versions. I'll keep testing and see what else comes up.

 

OH! Also..... using the latest official release before the test. I did not do a clean install. Just unselected the old one and selected the new one in MO. My existing follower was already a milk maid. When the GIT version was used, she didn't automatically keep generating milk. I had to go into MCM and set her milk to like.... 4 or something. Anything that was not zero. THen she started making milk as normal.

 

** For some reason, milk production just stops. It has happened several times now using the GIT version. What's WEIRD is that if I check the box to enable the milk produced counts toward milk total.... she'll gain milk maid levels even though it says she has zero milk. And with 25 Lactacid she should be like a milk machine! heheh

 

[thianeth]

How many milk maids am i supposed to be able to make at milk mastery level zero

 

Currently i have one normal follower and one female spriggan follower through untamed

 

i have been able to make myself and both followers into milk maids.

 

I was under the impression that untill level 3 milk mastery i would only be able to ave one milk maid.

 

 

 

 

Never mind, browsed the posts a bit and it seems that the untamed follower simply is not supported by the mod, I will try getting another follower to see if it allows me to make another maid or appropriately limits me to my unlocked slots

 

 

 

EDIT

 

I use EFF

I have both Uthgerd and Janessa as followers

My pc is a milk maid

I am able to both of them milk maids at same time with milk mastery at zero

[spoonsinger]

Git version. Couldn't seem to find the Windhelm milk pumps. That's to say they weren't in the usual place and I just ran around the city to see if there were anywhere obvious - assuming they are still outside. Also coc'd to Riverwood and that one is ok - although there was a barrel on its side next to it which I don't remember there ever being.

 

ps

 

New game, (just testing other stuff and pondering if I want to put immersive creatures back - i miss the skeletons, but don't miss the lag, but ummm. Anyway nothing to do with this)

[Rusted_One]

  First off, I apologize in advance for ANY offense given by my statements, observations, and / or pleas-for aide...

That said, GREAT MOD!  I like it a lot.  Been using it off-and-on for AWHILE now.

 

  I've always had difficulty with the cuirass however.  I'm not an author of Mods, simply an enthusiast, and as such, I have (in my off time) attempted to find fixes to various difficulties with mods, and even met with a modicum of success in my searches.  Enough so that I've begun using different mods and utilities that require time, study, and YouTube, to utilize.

  So, still not happy with my results with the cuirass and it's visual effects, I turn to the community (to be read: "HALP!"). 

  I use the All-In-One UUNP HDT Animated Pussy v3.3 (and it's requirements) for a body (7B preference); the XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended v3.85 for the skeleton, various tattoo over-lays, and other mods (roughly 204 in total); but...

  If I use the Bodyslide and Outfit Studio v3.5 ReUp to modify the body (I am absolutely useless; but wish to correct this, at the Outfit modifications), I have to eliminate the HDT on outfits or I get the pointy-shadows (NPCs), and specifically for this (MME) mod to tailor the cuirass, my meshes go ape-shit.  They appear as fractured (crystal-like) black and skin-tone blotches (as if missing files.

  My complaint (plus the affore-mentioned) also includes, that the armors (aMidianBorne retextures, non-skimpy, non-HDT sadly! (I disabled this to allay that shadow-bug)) USED to scale with the breast-growth, but, no longer.

  The breast-scale starts at 1.0 and the body (boobs) scales up just fine, but not the outfits (armors).

 

  If you have suggestions, please feel free to offer constructive comments.  Thank you all. 

 

Game on.

 

[Ed86]

How many milk maids am i supposed to be able to make at milk mastery level zero

 

Currently i have one normal follower and one female spriggan follower through untamed

 

i have been able to make myself and both followers into milk maids.

 

I was under the impression that untill level 3 milk mastery i would only be able to ave one milk maid.

 

 

 

 

Never mind, browsed the posts a bit and it seems that the untamed follower simply is not supported by the mod, I will try getting another follower to see if it allows me to make another maid or appropriately limits me to my unlocked slots

 

 

 

EDIT

 

I use EFF

I have both Uthgerd and Janessa as followers

My pc is a milk maid

I am able to both of them milk maids at same time with milk mastery at zero

How do you make milkmaids?

[Ed86]

Ed86,

 

In the test file from git...using Fancy for the new pump locations.

I'm in Whiterun and an NPC went into the pump. Got message "Do you want to make a new Milk Maid"....so I said "Yes"

 

First thing I noticed was that it didn't feed her Lactacid (and I have it on in MCM....not the Forced Feeding one.... just normal default.

 

Haven't been to other locations.

 

In the Milk Mod esp. I edit it with TES5Edit to remove the "ignore from sandbox" flag. I do that for the milk pumps in ZaZ and in MME. So a wandering NPC can use them.

This works in all previous versions. I'll keep testing and see what else comes up.

 

OH! Also..... using the latest official release before the test. I did not do a clean install. Just unselected the old one and selected the new one in MO. My existing follower was already a milk maid. When the GIT version was used, she didn't automatically keep generating milk. I had to go into MCM and set her milk to like.... 4 or something. Anything that was not zero. THen she started making milk as normal.

 

** For some reason, milk production just stops. It has happened several times now using the GIT version. What's WEIRD is that if I check the box to enable the milk produced counts toward milk total.... she'll gain milk maid levels even though it says she has zero milk. And with 25 Lactacid she should be like a milk machine! heheh

You need to supply lactacid, either you or npc inventory, dont remember if force feeding overrides this

Or you can use orc pumps

Thats what happens when multiple ppl work on something.... Sigh guess ill have to clean up the mess XD