SexLab Sex Slaves 6.2 December 06, 2016

[zzz72w3r]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am a female character, and I activated the BDSM dialogue option, but my male spouse has no bdsm dialogue?

 

Is there more that needs to be done that just activating the option in the MCM?

 

At this moment, and likely for a long time to come, only Volkar has this option.   I may in the future allow a different dominate, but only if you are in Volkars area (although I may add a second area up stairs down the road).

 

Just so you guys know, this stuff is HARD.  I read the other day that one minute of play takes 4 hours to program.  That is about right, so don't expect magic from me.

 

On the other hand, I am catering to the needs of our female players right now, so if you have ideas for what you think would be fun for girls, please let me know. 

 

I am just about to post an upgrade with mistress/my lady in Jenny's voice.  I have three days in this and over 150 additional lines of dialog, and half of that is female player only.

 

I am also working on a serious upgrade to the BDSM scene, but that will take a while to get done, maybe not till December 10 or so as it is a LOT of work.

 

 

Ah, I see, thanks for the quick reply.

 

LOVE the mod by the way.  Absolutely awesome.

 

Since you asked, here are my suggestions....

 

1) Toggle to turn off the Slaves raping/pouncing the Mistress...this just seems off since they are the slaves, and I determine when/where/how they receive their pleasure.

 

2) Dialogue from the slaves that reflects them 'knowing'  or 'responding' to them being punished in a more submissive way.  Don't get me wrong, I do like seeing them enjoy their spanking, but some dialogue that reflects that they are 'in trouble' or 'in pain' would be a nice addition too.

 

3) As them to 'service' my Husband.  Or ask my Husband to fuck them.

 

 

 

 

You'll find most of what you asked for in the 30 beta, except for the slaves raping you, although this has been severely diminished.  It kinda messes up the sex slave lore, but I might consider doing because so many people have asked for it.

 

 

I think fans of this mod perhaps are playing two different lore.  Correct me if I am wrong but your lore, or rather the author's intent, appears to be more a case of extreme nympho than slave where after the indoctrination the NPC are more or less self aware but their links with the player character.  Hence it is perfectly natural for them to prey on the so called "master" in your lore.  Most people probably play the mod literally and find that "master" fallen victim to the carnal desire of the "slave" she created inconceivable. 

 

EDIT: "self aware" is the wrong term.  My interpretation of the author's intent is that the indoctrination creates NPC enslaved to their own carnal desire and bond them with the player but not to the player's will.  This, however, is not the literal master-slave relationship many players looking to get from this mod.

 

 

[germanicus]

I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.)

[nyctophilia]

I agree that female PCs should have just as much fun/control/dialogue as male PCs. This mod has become tenfold feature-rich from its initial release. Thanks to fishburgers scripting prowess and the amount of time he's willing to donate/contribute to its development. For all of our enjoyment. I think that everyone is going to have a slight difference of opinion when it comes to the way the slaves in this mod should interact with the PC.

 

Maybe now is the time to incorporate the framework.esm with all the content and resources. Then, use the .esp plug-ins for additional dialogue/quests etc.

[aqqh]

I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.)

Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is.

With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master.

To me it's more fun this way.

[germanicus]

 

I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.)

Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is.

With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master.

To me it's more fun this way.

 

 

I'm with you in this 1000%

[fishburger67]

Are there any plans to fully voice any of the other slaves, for instance maybe Mia? Possibly without having to use any of the default vanilla voices.

 

Wanna volunteer?  I am happy to provide dialog for anyone who wants to add their voice talents, just PM me.

 

There is actually two fully voiced slaves, Linda and Jenny.  Linda is missing some of the later dialog, but she is unique.  The gal who did her is awol at the moment, but as soon as she has the time, I ask to to do the later dialog additions.

 

[fishburger67]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am a female character, and I activated the BDSM dialogue option, but my male spouse has no bdsm dialogue?

 

Is there more that needs to be done that just activating the option in the MCM?

 

At this moment, and likely for a long time to come, only Volkar has this option.   I may in the future allow a different dominate, but only if you are in Volkars area (although I may add a second area up stairs down the road).

 

Just so you guys know, this stuff is HARD.  I read the other day that one minute of play takes 4 hours to program.  That is about right, so don't expect magic from me.

 

On the other hand, I am catering to the needs of our female players right now, so if you have ideas for what you think would be fun for girls, please let me know. 

 

I am just about to post an upgrade with mistress/my lady in Jenny's voice.  I have three days in this and over 150 additional lines of dialog, and half of that is female player only.

 

I am also working on a serious upgrade to the BDSM scene, but that will take a while to get done, maybe not till December 10 or so as it is a LOT of work.

 

 

Ah, I see, thanks for the quick reply.

 

LOVE the mod by the way.  Absolutely awesome.

 

Since you asked, here are my suggestions....

 

1) Toggle to turn off the Slaves raping/pouncing the Mistress...this just seems off since they are the slaves, and I determine when/where/how they receive their pleasure.

 

2) Dialogue from the slaves that reflects them 'knowing'  or 'responding' to them being punished in a more submissive way.  Don't get me wrong, I do like seeing them enjoy their spanking, but some dialogue that reflects that they are 'in trouble' or 'in pain' would be a nice addition too.

 

3) As them to 'service' my Husband.  Or ask my Husband to fuck them.

 

 

 

 

You'll find most of what you asked for in the 30 beta, except for the slaves raping you, although this has been severely diminished.  It kinda messes up the sex slave lore, but I might consider doing because so many people have asked for it.

 

 

I think fans of this mod perhaps are playing two different lore.  Correct me if I am wrong but your lore, or rather the author's intent, appears to be more a case of extreme nympho than slave where after the indoctrination the NPC are more or less self aware but their links with the player character.  Hence it is perfectly natural for them to prey on the so called "master" in your lore.  Most people probably play the mod literally and find that "master" fallen victim to the carnal desire of the "slave" she created inconceivable. 

 

EDIT: "self aware" is the wrong term.  My interpretation of the author's intent is that the indoctrination creates NPC enslaved to their own carnal desire and bond them with the player but not to the player's will.  This, however, is not the literal master-slave relationship many players looking to get from this mod.

 

You have the lore exactly right.  Female sex slaves are Nymphomaniacs on steroids who LOVE their masters.  They do not hate them or want to escape.  They beg to be in their company.  I play this mod myself (or at least I hope to have the time again some day) and that is how I want to play them.  On the other hand, other people have different tastes and I am happy to accommodate  them if is possible without breaking the lore for me.

 

 

 

[fishburger67]

 

I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.)

Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is.

With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master.

To me it's more fun this way.

 

 

Aqqh and Germanicus are two really smart cookies and who am I to disagree.  However, with an MCM option defaulted to off, everyone is happy and it is really easy to do.  However, I will not change the dialog, lore or the mods intent to be more "slave like". 

 

Sex Sex slaves LOVE their masters, whether they are men or women.  They follow you because they want to.  You have bonded to them and the only way to break the bond is death.  They cannot be sold and never will be.  They are selfless, and never jealous if you screw someone else and they are happy to screw anyone you want them to.  They need sex like air and water and will take it if required.  On the other hand, feel free to spank them or retrain them.  They like that, just as long as they can belong to you.  Not such a bad deal really.

 

Having said all this, the female players have unanimously not wanted dialog like "Make love to my husband slave".  The husband is theirs and the slave is a convenient intruder on that relationship.  So, I replaced the dialog for interacting with their husbands replacing "Make Love"  with other less loving phrases.  That fits the lore for me because the slave loves the PC and not the spouse.   They are doing what their  lover/master, the PC, has told them to do.

[fishburger67]

 

 

I am a female character, and I activated the BDSM dialogue option, but my male spouse has no bdsm dialogue?

 

Is there more that needs to be done that just activating the option in the MCM?

 

At this moment, and likely for a long time to come, only Volkar has this option.   I may in the future allow a different dominate, but only if you are in Volkars area (although I may add a second area up stairs down the road).

 

Just so you guys know, this stuff is HARD.  I read the other day that one minute of play takes 4 hours to program.  That is about right, so don't expect magic from me.

 

On the other hand, I am catering to the needs of our female players right now, so if you have ideas for what you think would be fun for girls, please let me know. 

 

I am just about to post an upgrade with mistress/my lady in Jenny's voice.  I have three days in this and over 150 additional lines of dialog, and half of that is female player only.

 

I am also working on a serious upgrade to the BDSM scene, but that will take a while to get done, maybe not till December 10 or so as it is a LOT of work.

 

 

Ah, I see, thanks for the quick reply.

 

LOVE the mod by the way.  Absolutely awesome.

 

Since you asked, here are my suggestions....

 

1) Toggle to turn off the Slaves raping/pouncing the Mistress...this just seems off since they are the slaves, and I determine when/where/how they receive their pleasure.

 

2) Dialogue from the slaves that reflects them 'knowing'  or 'responding' to them being punished in a more submissive way.  Don't get me wrong, I do like seeing them enjoy their spanking, but some dialogue that reflects that they are 'in trouble' or 'in pain' would be a nice addition too.

 

3) As them to 'service' my Husband.  Or ask my Husband to fuck them.

 

 

Also, I wanted to mention, If you want to hear them complain loudly, tell them they need retraining and whip the hell out of them.  This option is only available in the palace or next to Vernor in the lower castle area.

[zzz72w3r]

 

Are there any plans to fully voice any of the other slaves, for instance maybe Mia? Possibly without having to use any of the default vanilla voices.

 

Wanna volunteer?  I am happy to provide dialog for anyone who wants to add their voice talents, just PM me.

 

There is actually two fully voiced slaves, Linda and Jenny.  Linda is missing some of the later dialog, but she is unique.  The gal who did her is awol at the moment, but as soon as she has the time, I ask to to do the later dialog additions.

 

 

 

I too would like to add my petition for Mia to get priority for more content and VA if/when possible.  I understand there might be issues expanding Mia's character given certain choice player makes relatively early in the mod (no spoiler) but the mod is after all called Miaslair  

 

[Guest]

HI. yes that is good. Please pleasure my wife and me....  Or spouse say Honey i need it let me use them to get me wet. And after that we can do it all night long...  

Thank you both Aqqh and Germanicus . And you too Fish.

*droling*  Lets have some funny... 

Thank you for this hot mod..

 

[sashalag]

Hi, fishburger ! THANKS FOR YOUR AWESOME JOB AND WORK !!!

 

As you asked for suggestion here are some (from a submissive female PC point of view):

 

- If the PC wears the clit piercing, she´s seen as a slave by the dremoras and Dom characters around

 

- would be great to see the PC becoming a nymphomaniac sex slave

 

- If PC enters the gas trap twice, she´s enslaved and trained, and finally sold as a sex slave

 

I know the main plot of your mod is PC dominant, but, as far as I tried most of the D/s mods around, I always wanted to see a slavery mod that lets the player choose the path, and your has the potential to be the GREATER slavery mod ever in that point.

[Guest]

Ask is it posible to make slave as present for spouse. Like a gift.?

And I make Male Huscarl to slave now he has a female voice? was thinking as toy for spouse and followers. Me playing male char... 

[fishburger67]

Ask is it posible to make slave as present for spouse. Like a gift.?

And I make Male Huscarl to slave now he has a female voice? was thinking as toy for spouse and followers. Me playing male char... 

 

Once a slave is bonded to the PC, it is for life.  They cannot be sold or given away.  However, you have the option to train slaves and when that training is finished, you bond with them.  I could add the option of not bonding with them and then they could be sold or given away.

 

If there are others interested in this option, I will add it to my todo list (which is currently a few weeks of backlog).

[aqqh]

Once a slave is bonded to the PC, it is for life.  They cannot be sold or given away.  However, you have the option to train slaves and when that training is finished, you bond with them.  I could add the option of not bonding with them and then they could be sold or given away.

Andrew and Sylvia (and maybe others of their type) could have a different story.

 

Like they are honor bound to serve you instead of falling in love with you.

[Carida]

 

Once a slave is bonded to the PC, it is for life.  They cannot be sold or given away.  However, you have the option to train slaves and when that training is finished, you bond with them.  I could add the option of not bonding with them and then they could be sold or given away.

Andrew and Sylvia (and maybe others of their type) could have a different story.

 

Like they are honor bound to serve you instead of falling in love with you.

 

 

 

Since Andrew is the only male, I'm happy with him falling in love with the pc and following out of love, there's plenty of duty and such in the rest of vanilla skyrim honestly. I rather like the adoration part of the mod and the bonding and such. 

 

Just my two cents.

 

-C

[Buffmutti]

Well, i tried this mod and i like it, very But right after the beginning of the quest "Its a Trap!" i'm stuck, because the whipping scene seems to be "broken" (the same problem sometimes happen in SD+, but there i just need to wait for a minute and the scene will end). I waited for like 5 minutes and had the hope that the scene would end, but nothing happened.

 

 

Is there a way to end this scene?

 

[aqqh]

Since Andrew is the only male, I'm happy with him falling in love with the pc and following out of love, there's plenty of duty and such in the rest of vanilla skyrim honestly. I rather like the adoration part of the mod and the bonding and such. 

i would feel a little ... discomfort playing my male char and knowing hes serving me because of love 

[nyctophilia]

Well, i tried this mod and i like it, very But right after the beginning of the quest "Its a Trap!" i'm stuck, because the whipping scene seems to be "broken" (the same problem sometimes happen in SD+, but there i just need to wait for a minute and the scene will end). I waited for like 5 minutes and had the hope that the scene would end, but nothing happened.

 

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Is there a way to end this scene?

Try setstage MiaDungeonCapture 60

[pinky6225]

 

 

I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.)

Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is.

With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master.

To me it's more fun this way.

 

 

Aqqh and Germanicus are two really smart cookies and who am I to disagree.  However, with an MCM option defaulted to off, everyone is happy and it is really easy to do.  However, I will not change the dialog, lore or the mods intent to be more "slave like". 

 

 

The problem with having the slaves jump the PC is that its totally out of character and while i know they play their dialogue saying how they can't control themselves etc that's all the warning you seem to get, perhaps its just my game but i seems to get dialogues like the "your not using my body enough" even when i'm using it a lot as i'm training mia so inbetween while she does her thing from the exctasy spell i'm playing with the slaves

 

I do like the concept of them jumping the PC when they get desperate i just think you need to insert something between that and their regular behavior so it doesn't seem so out of character

[AlericoftheNords]

 

I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.)

Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is.

With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master.

To me it's more fun this way.

 

 

They have 'their needs' except they are supposed to be slaves....and having them rape the PC essentially reverses the power balance of the relationship.

 

If I'm the 'Master/Mistress' they are supposed to be subject to my whims, not the other way around.  I'm not fond of being publicly raped by characters that are supposed to be my 'slaves,' it just doesn't make sense. 

 

For example, I'm spanking (punishing) my slave, and she suddenly puts an end to the punishment and rapes me...why would I allow that...?

 

I see this as essentially a confusion between being a Domm and being a Sub.  What you are describing in your post is Submissive behavior on your part -- being 'forced' to fulfill the needs of another -- when your PC/Avatar is supposed to be in the Domm role.

 

I'm not saying to remove it, but making it toggleable would be nice for those of who actually want to play as a Domm.

[aqqh]

They have 'their needs' except they are supposed to be slaves....and having them rape the PC essentially reverses the power balance of the relationship.

 

If I'm the 'Master/Mistress' they are supposed to be subject to my whims, not the other way around.  I'm not fond of being publicly raped by characters that are supposed to be my 'slaves,' it just doesn't make sense. 

 

For example, I'm spanking (punishing) my slave, and she suddenly puts an end to the punishment and rapes me...why would I allow that...?

 

I see this as essentially a confusion between being a Domm and being a Sub.  What you are describing in your post is Submissive behavior on your part -- being 'forced' to fulfill the needs of another -- when your PC/Avatar is supposed to be in the Domm role.

 

I'm not saying to remove it, but making it toggleable would be nice for those of who actually want to play as a Domm.

Its not a sub. Its a thing that Veladarius described in his mod once and i agree to that view of things. Being a master means you are taking responsibility for someone.

 

This mod is not about usual view of slavery - you do not defeat them and force them to submit because you will kill them if they wont do so (well maybe except Mia).

It's not forced slavery. They serve you because they are happy to serve you.

So it's your responsibility to keep them happy.

 

Well if Fish would be bored one day (unlikely...) it could be done that before they would jump over you they would play some idle anim - belted masturbation from DDs would be great here.

And while they speak that line that they cant control themselves there could be an option to tell them that this its neither time nor place for this so they have to wait at least a little.

[AlericoftheNords]

 

They have 'their needs' except they are supposed to be slaves....and having them rape the PC essentially reverses the power balance of the relationship.

 

If I'm the 'Master/Mistress' they are supposed to be subject to my whims, not the other way around.  I'm not fond of being publicly raped by characters that are supposed to be my 'slaves,' it just doesn't make sense. 

 

For example, I'm spanking (punishing) my slave, and she suddenly puts an end to the punishment and rapes me...why would I allow that...?

 

I see this as essentially a confusion between being a Domm and being a Sub.  What you are describing in your post is Submissive behavior on your part -- being 'forced' to fulfill the needs of another -- when your PC/Avatar is supposed to be in the Domm role.

 

I'm not saying to remove it, but making it toggleable would be nice for those of who actually want to play as a Domm.

Its not a sub. Its a thing that Veladarius described in his mod once and i agree to that view of things. Being a master means you are taking responsibility for someone.

 

This mod is not about usual view of slavery - you do not defeat them and force them to submit because you will kill them if they wont do so (well maybe except Mia).

It's not forced slavery. They serve you because they are happy to serve you.

So it's your responsibility to keep them happy.

 

Well if Fish would be bored one day (unlikely...) it could be done that before they would jump over you they would play some idle anim - belted masturbation from DDs would be great here.

And while they speak that line that they cant control themselves there could be an option to tell them that this its neither time nor place for this so they have to wait at least a little.

 

 

I'm not asking for it to be removed, just for it to be made optional.

 

They are 'willing' slaves, I get that, but random rape is not taking care of someone's needs...

 

And are they really slaves, willing or otherwise, if they can jump their 'master' whenever they feel like it?  It just reverses/shatters/diminishes the entire power balance of the scenario.  Again, I'm spanking/punishing Jenn, and out of nowhere she decides to stop the punishment and rape me...?

 

I'm not saying to remove it, but a toggle to turn it off would really be nice.

[Kimy]

 

I'm not saying to remove it, but a toggle to turn it off would really be nice.

 

 

I actually like it that if you don't care enough for them, they get..errrm...more insistent to get their needs satisfied. I wouldn't want it disabled completely. BUT! I felt it happened a bit too often. With Jenn at my side, I literally couldn't walk from one end of Mia's Dungeon to the other without her jumping at me at least twice. Which is fun, sure, but also disrupts the gameplay a bit much. So, how about a slider we can adjust their appetite with? Just an idea. I also still like my earlier suggestion about being able to lock them in a chastity belt for a while when it's getting too much. So that they would stop demanding sex while wearing it, but give you whiney dialogue lines about how mean that is to lock them up in this way. It would be sort of in-character to do with somebody having such uncontrolled desire, at least.

 

As for the female content, I'd love Sashalag's idea to allow the player to become a sex slave herself (some of the content for this is actually there already, as you got these nice BDSM scenes). Can make the piercing lockable maybe, so that only the demora can remove it from the player and that it prevents you from wearing any clothing while wearing it? One of the demora could even be turned into a (dominant) follower perhaps?

For the more dominant ladies, a couple more guy slaves to pick from would be nice to have, too. And why is Andrew wearing armour anyway? We want our eye-candy, too!

 

[fishburger67]

 

Once a slave is bonded to the PC, it is for life.  They cannot be sold or given away.  However, you have the option to train slaves and when that training is finished, you bond with them.  I could add the option of not bonding with them and then they could be sold or given away.

Andrew and Sylvia (and maybe others of their type) could have a different story.

 

Like they are honor bound to serve you instead of falling in love with you.

 

 

 

Agreed